Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili,

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:07:09 -0400 GMT (08/09/2005, 02:07 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

V> I  meant,  that  if  you  refilter  the  folder  after  importing (not
V> downloading) the mail, and one of the filter is true, TB! quits.

Oh, I see.

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-07 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Vili,

>> QUESTION: If a fire hydrant has H2O on the inside, what is on the
>> outside?
>> ANSWER: K9P

V> I needed some time to understand the point, but is is a good one :))

I'm afraid I'll need some more time... :-( But this is getting OT...

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:24:59 +0200 GMT (08/09/2005, 01:24 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

TF>> I am looking forward to a bug report too.

PM> Done. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5098

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-07 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas,

on  Thu, 8 Sep 2005 00:21:45 +0700GMT (07.09.2005, 19:21 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

V>> Peter, report it on BT with this addition, I will support it.

TF> I am looking forward to a bug report too.

Done. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5098

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili,

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 04:12:24 +0200 GMT (07/09/2005, 09:12 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

V> I  figured  out  what  the  problem  is,  what causes TB! to quit: the
V> filters.  So  if  the subject line is too long AND one of the incoming
V> filter is True for the mail, the filter just fails to run. If you want
V> to check it, import the mail, filter that folder with a filter that
V> will be true.

Over here, the message didn't trigger any filter, but TB still closed
silently. I think it's just the overlength of the subject line.

V> Peter, report it on BT with this addition, I will support it.

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 18:34:15 +0200 GMT (06/09/2005, 23:34 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

TF>> Please send your message to the developers. Something in the HTML code
TF>> makes TB close, and that is a scary thing: TB should be unvulnerable
TF>> to whatever is in the HTML code.

PM> Who would be the best addressee?

Max, Stefan, or 9Val. They'll sort it out among themselves who will
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-06 Thread Peter Meyns
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Hi all,

on  Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:22:10 +0200GMT I wrote:

PM> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
PM> receiving messages. Only here?

The problem seems to be closed in as it seems. For everyone interested
I have uploaded my pop log file plus the offending message's source to
http://www.meynsweb.com/tbbeta/tbcrash.rar.

If anyone wants to experience the abrupt closing of The Bat!
themselves, just give me a word, and I'll forward it to you from
Thunderbird. ;-)

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-06 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Vili,

on  Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:07:29 -0400GMT (06.09.2005, 19:07 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> If anyone else here is interested I could send it to them too. But
>> remember that in order to /receive/ this faulty mail, you will need
>> another email client.
V> ..
>> I used Thunderbird to receive and forward it. Alas, I couldn't find an
>> "Export" function in TBird. I can, however, copy the source code to a
>> text file.

V> I have read that you already downloaded the mail when TB! quit...

No. There is no way to download it with The Bat!. I downloaded it with
Tbird and extracted the source code. I will send it along with The
Bat!'s pop log file to you privately.

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-09-06 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas,

on  Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:35:28 +0700GMT (06.09.2005, 16:35 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

TF> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:50:06 +0700 GMT (06/09/2005, 08:50 +0700 GMT),
TF> Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> Peter:
PM>>> Now, who might be interested in this log file?

TF> Thomas:
TF>> I would. Please send MIME-attached by PM.

TF> Thanks, received. Well, I tried downloading my messages, and suddenly
TF> TB closed. Did the same thing, with the same result. I certainly
TF> confirm the problem.

TF> Additional info:

TF> 1.) TB closes *after* downloading your mail. So on each attempt, the
TF> message is downloaded again.

Same here too.

TF> 2.) The message is visible in the despatcher. Downloading with the
TF> despatcher open has the same result. I had to untick "receive" from
TF> that message in order to download my other messages.

This seems to be the only way to get TB! working again.

TF> 3.) TB forgets which messages it has already downloaded. Your message
TF> was number 12, so the previous messages were downloaded and when your
TF> message was reached and TB closed, I reopened TB and activated the
TF> message despatcher again. Your message was again number 12, not number
TF> 1. So the previous messages were downloaded again...

Also confirmed.

TF> Please send your message to the developers. Something in the HTML code
TF> makes TB close, and that is a scary thing: TB should be unvulnerable
TF> to whatever is in the HTML code.

Who would be the best addressee?

If anyone else here is interested I could send it to them too. But
remember that in order to /receive/ this faulty mail, you will need
another email client.

I used Thunderbird to receive and forward it. Alas, I couldn't find an
"Export" function in TBird. I can, however, copy the source code to a
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat! (was: Solved)

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili,

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:11:31 -0400 GMT (06/09/2005, 23:11 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

>> The complete HTML-code is in the subject line. This is what causes the
>> crash. Whether it's the code itself or just the overlength of the
>> subject line, is for the developers to decide.

V> We can check that by exporting the mail, trimming the subject line and
V> importing back.

True. I just cut the subject line, and could receive the CC'ed
message back fine.

There is a bug in TB, and I hope that Peter sends that message to you
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat! (was: Solved)

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:35:28 +0700 GMT (06/09/2005, 21:35 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> Additional info:

And more additional info:

The complete HTML-code is in the subject line. This is what causes the
crash. Whether it's the code itself or just the overlength of the
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat! (was: Solved)

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:50:06 +0700 GMT (06/09/2005, 08:50 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

Peter:
PM>> Now, who might be interested in this log file?

Thomas:
TF> I would. Please send MIME-attached by PM.

Thanks, received. Well, I tried downloading my messages, and suddenly
TB closed. Did the same thing, with the same result. I certainly
confirm the problem.

Additional info:

1.) TB closes *after* downloading your mail. So on each attempt, the
message is downloaded again.

2.) The message is visible in the despatcher. Downloading with the
despatcher open has the same result. I had to untick "receive" from
that message in order to download my other messages.

3.) TB forgets which messages it has already downloaded. Your message
was number 12, so the previous messages were downloaded and when your
message was reached and TB closed, I reopened TB and activated the
message despatcher again. Your message was again number 12, not number
1. So the previous messages were downloaded again...

Please send your message to the developers. Something in the HTML code
makes TB close, and that is a scary thing: TB should be unvulnerable
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat! (was: Solved)

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 19:33:45 +0200 GMT (06/09/2005, 00:33 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

PM> TB! closed as expected, but I have a log file with the complete *bad
PM> HTML* source of that mail. After that the log finishes without the
PM> usual compliments, because The Bat! herself closed instantly.

PM> Now, who might be interested in this log file?

I would. Please send MIME-attached by PM. Can you also MIME-attach the
actual message, in addition to the log? (I guess not, because TB
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat! (was: Solved)

2005-09-05 Thread Peter Meyns
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Hi all,

on Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:05:02 +0200GMT, I wrote:

>>> And so on. Or is there a more explicit log somewhere?
V>> Account, Properties, Transfer, Protocol logging.

PM> Oh, thank you, I never saw that one before...

I thought, I had deleted the respective mail, but obviously I have
only marked it read. When I started my notebook today, I had the same
self-closing of The Bat! as before. I enabled pop logging for that
account and started the mail dispatcher. All six spam mails were
marked read, and I selected the first one (the evil one) for download.
TB! closed as expected, but I have a log file with the complete *bad
HTML* source of that mail. After that the log finishes without the
usual compliments, because The Bat! herself closed instantly.

Now, who might be interested in this log file?

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Meyns
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Hi all,

on  Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:45:31 +0200GMT I wrote:

> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
> receiving messages. Only here?

PM> I will try a new install on my main machine, because I don't need OTFE
PM> there anyway.

Well, first I didn't get rid of OTFE. Second, The Bat! keeps on
closing when checking mails mails periodically or on + or
.

BTW, PGP-signing from within The Bat! still doesn't work... *sigh*

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Meyns
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Hi Roelof,

on Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:05:09 +0200GMT, you wrote:

 when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
 receiving messages. Only here?

MM>>> With BayesIt? Try to remove it.

PM>> No, BayesIt is not activated. I also tried to rename the BayesIt
PM>> folder altogether, but to no avail. The same thing happens on my
PM>> laptop where BayesIt is active.

RO> Another plug-in maybe? Or an anti virus program without plug-in?

I suspected MyGate, but no. It must be something else. Still
wondering, because I also have it happen now on the laptop with this
downgraded version. Maybe an undetected virus that affects only The
Bat!? The behavior is indeed virus-like... hmm

I will try a new install on my main machine, because I don't need OTFE
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-29 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Vili & everyone else,

on 29-Aug-2005 at 12:52 you (Vili) wrote:

> Sorry  to  change  the  priority of the mail to high, but I have cable
> connection,  NEVER  happened it before, but now I downloaded mails and
> TB! quit while downloading. Back to 3.60.01...

Did you enable Account | Properties | Transport | Protocol Logging? Maybe
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-29 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter,

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 06:09:55 +0200GMT (29-8-2005, 6:09 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

>>> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
>>> receiving messages. Only here?

MM>> With BayesIt? Try to remove it.

PM> No, BayesIt is not activated. I also tried to rename the BayesIt
PM> folder altogether, but to no avail. The same thing happens on my
PM> laptop where BayesIt is active.

Another plug-in maybe? Or an anti virus program without plug-in?

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Marek,

on  Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:48:34 +0200GMT (28.08.2005, 19:48 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
>> receiving messages. Only here?

MM> With BayesIt? Try to remove it.

No, BayesIt is not activated. I also tried to rename the BayesIt
folder altogether, but to no avail. The same thing happens on my
laptop where BayesIt is active.

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter,

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:22:10 +0200GMT (28-8-2005, 19:22 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

PM> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
PM> receiving messages. Only here?

Cannot confirm.
It's been running here since the release.

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Peter Meyns,

Sunday, August 28, 2005 
you let us know -at least in parts- :
> Hi all,

> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
> receiving messages. Only here?


Here neither. Closing only on command.

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/28/2005  3:38 PM

Hi Peter,

On 8/28/2005 Peter Meyns wrote:

PM> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
PM> receiving messages. Only here?

Not here.

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, August 28, 2005, Cees wrote:

>>> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
>>> receiving messages. Only here?

MM>> With BayesIt? Try to remove it.

>  that has nothing to do with it.

how do You know this? Peter didn't sent more informations and BayesIt
causes program crash when receiving messages, I know this, I tried to
solve this problem with some users.

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Using the best The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta)
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Marek,

on  Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:48:34 +0200GMT (28.08.2005, 19:48 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
>> receiving messages. Only here?

MM> With BayesIt? Try to remove it.

No BayesIt on this machine. K9 does so much a better job for spam...

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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, August 28, 2005, Peter Meyns wrote:

> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
> receiving messages. Only here?

With BayesIt? Try to remove it.

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Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta)
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line

 



 Current beta is 3.60.05 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Greg,

on  Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:39:22 -0500GMT (28.08.2005, 19:39 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
>> receiving messages. Only here?

GS> Can NOT confirm. Are you on dialup? I'm on cable which could make a
GS> difference.

Yes. Dial-up here.

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The Bat! v3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195,
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



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Re: Premature closing of The Bat!

2005-08-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter,

on  Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:22:10 +0200GMT (28.08.2005, 19:22 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

PM> when I start the newest beta while online, it closes by itself after
PM> receiving messages. Only here?

Just to add: it happens on + too.

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Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195,
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.60.05 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
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