Re: Test message for duplicates
Hello Stuart, A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on: Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 20:06:50 GMT -0600 SC Hello tbbeta, SC Testing duplicates. I think that another bad thing is happening with these duplicates. Since these are not true duplicates in the strictest sense, (ie they are not on the server, just in the local folder) if you delete one of the messages, manually or by using Delete Duplicates, when you do a purge it will delete the only message that is on the server and when it resyncs with the local folder you will have permanently lost the original messages. If you can understand my rambling, can anyone confirm? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Test message for duplicates
Hello Stuart, SC Testing duplicates. I think that another bad thing is happening with these duplicates. Since these are not true duplicates in the strictest sense, (ie they are not on the server, just in the local folder) if you delete one of the messages, manually or by using Delete Duplicates, when you do a purge it will delete the only message that is on the server and when it resyncs with the local folder you will have permanently lost the original messages. If you can understand my rambling, can anyone confirm? Maybe it is a strange question, but as I NEVER seen this duplication before: if this is a test IMAP address for you, would it be possible to get it as a TBK file, so I can test it at home with the same settings, that you have at you? -- Vili Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP - Duplicate was (Test message for duplicates)
Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Monday, January 30, 2006 at 13:55:57 GMT -0500 V Maybe it is a strange question, but as I NEVER seen this duplication V before: if this is a test IMAP address for you, would it be possible V to get it as a TBK file, so I can test it at home with the same V settings, that you have at you? It is not strictly a test account, as I have some personal info stored in here. For the most part this account is a free fastmail account and could be duplicated easily by signing up for an account and then using the new e-mail address to subscribe to tbbeta and tbudl. I would then be happy to set up your account the same as mine. I would love to solve this. By the way, I do not seem to have any TBK files here. And yes this is strictly an IMAP issue. I am changing the subject line here and I hope it is done correctly. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Duplicate was (Test message for duplicates)
Hello Stuart, V Maybe it is a strange question, but as I NEVER seen this duplication V before: if this is a test IMAP address for you, would it be possible V to get it as a TBK file, so I can test it at home with the same V settings, that you have at you? It is not strictly a test account, as I have some personal info stored in here. For the most part this account is a free fastmail account and could be duplicated easily by signing up for an account and then using the new e-mail address to subscribe to tbbeta and tbudl. I would then be happy to set up your account the same as mine. I would love to solve this. By the way, I do not seem to have any TBK files here. And yes this is strictly an IMAP issue. I am changing the subject line here and I hope it is done correctly. Stuart: could you generate me up a new IMAP fastmail account, set it in your TB, reproduce the problem with it, and backup the account and send as attach in private? -- Vili Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP - Duplicate was (Test message for duplicates)
Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Monday, January 30, 2006 at 15:41:44 GMT -0500 V Stuart: could you generate me up a new IMAP fastmail account, set it in V your TB, reproduce the problem with it, and backup the account and V send as attach in private? I will see what I can do. There are 9 copies of your message plus the original. I am only going to try it once though. :) -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates
Stuart, On 30-01-2006 18:58, you [SC] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: SC Since these are not true duplicates in the strictest sense, (ie they SC are not on the server, just in the local folder) if you delete one SC of the messages, manually or by using Delete Duplicates, when you do SC a purge it will delete the only message that is on the server and SC when it resyncs with the local folder you will have permanently lost SC the original messages. Hmm, I am often using remove duplicates without having all versions disappear. If you manually delete a duplicate, you can run into problems. SC If you can understand my rambling, can anyone confirm? Yes - and no (sort-of). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 9 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Duplicate was (Test message for duplicates)
On Monday, January 30, 2006, 3:08:52 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: I am only going to try it once though. :) If you are lucky, it will work 1st try. Re your other question, for the brief time I had any duplicate problems, killing duplicates never deleted any messages, but manually deleting messages was kind of hit or miss as I recall. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: IMAP - Duplicate was (Test message for duplicates)
Hello Stuart, V Stuart: could you generate me up a new IMAP fastmail account, set it in V your TB, reproduce the problem with it, and backup the account and V send as attach in private? I will see what I can do. There are 9 copies of your message plus the original. I am only going to try it once though. :) Ok. :) With our reliable Hungarian IMAP servers this duplication never happened :))) -- Vili Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Test message for duplicates
On 30 January 2006 at 17:58, Stuart wrote: I think that another bad thing is happening with these duplicates. Since these are not true duplicates in the strictest sense, (ie they are not on the server, just in the local folder) if you delete one of the messages, manually or by using Delete Duplicates, when you do a purge it will delete the only message that is on the server and when it resyncs with the local folder you will have permanently lost the original messages. If you can understand my rambling, can anyone confirm? I can confirm. The duplicates problem has gotten worse, not better. Before this release, I received one duplicate per message. I used to be able to click on the folder and Ctrl+C which would purge and compress and clear up the duplicates. Now I am getting multiple copies of the same message and it is taking a purge and compress for each one to get rid of the extras - i.e. 1 message and 3 copies needs 3 Ctrl+C. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP - Duplicate was (Test message for duplicates)
Hello Dwight, Monday, January 30, 2006, 3:59:43 PM, you wrote: DAC Re your other question, for the brief time I had any duplicate DAC problems, killing duplicates never deleted any messages, but manually DAC deleting messages was kind of hit or miss as I recall. It is not actually a problem deleting, but after you delete and then purge and compress, because you have deleted one of the copies the message gets deleted from the server. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Test message for duplicates
Hello Peter, Monday, January 30, 2006, 3:14:49 PM, you wrote: PF Hmm, I am often using remove duplicates without having all versions PF disappear. It is only after a purge that the message on the server disappears and then with a second purge the original message in the local cache disappears. PF If you manually delete a duplicate, you can run into problems. SC If you can understand my rambling, can anyone confirm? PF Yes - and no (sort-of). Hmmm. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Test message for duplicates
Hello Stuart, A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on: Saturday, January 28, 2006 at 16:07:01 GMT -0600 9 Could you check if issue was solved in .06? SC Sorry it is not completely fixed. I just received 3 new IMAP TB! SC messages and one of them has a duplicate. In trying to mark them all SC read a third duplicate showed up but only for that message. Followup: I have good news and bad news. First the good news. I no longer am getting duplicates. :) The bad news. Now I'm getting triplicates. :( -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates
9Val, On 28-01-2006 16:24, you [9] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: SC Testing duplicates. 9 Could you check if issue was solved in .06? IMAP seems to be running faster but alas I am getting more duplicates now than ever: usually one in the inbox and two in the folder it is filtered to (one ghost message). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates
Peter, On 30-01-2006 08:20, you [PF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PF IMAP seems to be running faster but alas I am getting more PF duplicates now than ever: usually one in the inbox and two in the PF folder it is filtered to (one ghost message). Setting flags (marking as read for instance, seems better/more reliable). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates
Hello Stuart, SC Testing duplicates. Could you check if issue was solved in .06? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates - one major IMAP problem
Hi 9Val, On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:24:07 +0200 UTC (1/28/2006, 9:24 AM -0500 UTC my time), 9Val wrote: SC Testing duplicates. 9 Could you check if issue was solved in .06? There are no dups now, working well... thanks, IMAP seems much improved overall. However there is still a major problem. I inadvertently deleted a message in my inbox... read a few more messages, and when I went back to browse deleted messages, it was no longer there, nor was there any of the 80 or so emails that I had deleted previously... This occurred without me manually purging/compressing the folder. I am assuming this occurred when the folder was refreshing.. and as you know, this is a definite no-no in IMAP. The protocol calls for permanent removal of email by a 2 step method, first being to delete the email, then using the expunge command to permanently remove mail from the server. Mail should only be expunged by the user, or by a feature option by the mail client when closing out.. but... as TB! stands now, by taking over and expunging email that has been deleted, at free will, at any time, without user knowledge, is not good. -- Gary Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Test message for duplicates
Hello 9Val, A reminder of what 9Val typed on: Saturday, January 28, 2006 at 17:24:07 GMT +0200 SC Testing duplicates. 9 Could you check if issue was solved in .06? Sorry it is not completely fixed. I just received 3 new IMAP TB! messages and one of them has a duplicate. In trying to mark them all read a third duplicate showed up but only for that message. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates (IMAP)
Stuart, On 27-01-2006 03:24, you [SC] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: SC Can anyone using IMAP, confirm my findings. I can. Just this morning. Reverted. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.70.02 Qigong (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Test message for duplicates
Hello Dwight, Thursday, January 26, 2006, 11:29:58 PM, you wrote: DAC I marked your test message unread, making it the only unread message DAC in my account. I then hit alt-f2, which checks mail for all accounts DAC and did not duplicate your complaint. DAC I don't understand why you are using check mail for all accounts with DAC your IMAP account, since new mail always arrives in short order DAC without, and I think the refresh command would be the preferred method DAC with IMAP, but I don't have ignore check all mail command ticked for DAC my IMAP account so it did perform whatever gets performed with IMAP DAC accounts when requested. I don't usually check this way, I only did it to expedite the problem. This morning I downloaded my new mail, 9 new messages. While I was reading some other mail an automatic refresh was done and my TB account still shows 9 messages, but my Inbox shows 0 (18) and I now have duplicates of every message. The odd thing is if I look at the messages the duplicates do not always show up after the original, which gets colored as it is filtered into the TB folder. The duplicates are all just black on white and yet when you look at the threading, sometimes the original is used and sometimes the duplicate. (see screenshot) This makes it difficult to test where color filtering is failing as well. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4attachment: ScreenShot001.jpg Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Test message for duplicates
Hello Stuart, Friday, January 27, 2006, 8:10:36 AM, you wrote: This makes it difficult to test where color filtering is failing as well. Also forgot to mention that if I use remove duplicates it works, but often keeps the duplicate and not the original, so all coloring is useless. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Test message for duplicates
On 27 January 2006 at 14:10, Stuart wrote: I don't usually check this way, I only did it to expedite the problem. This morning I downloaded my new mail, 9 new messages. While I was reading some other mail an automatic refresh was done and my TB account still shows 9 messages, but my Inbox shows 0 (18) and I now have duplicates of every message. I can verify this. The odd thing is if I look at the messages the duplicates do not always show up after the original, which gets colored as it is filtered into the TB folder. The duplicates are all just black on white and yet when you look at the threading, sometimes the original is used and sometimes the duplicate. (see screenshot) I can verify this as well. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Test message for duplicates
Hello tbbeta, Testing duplicates. -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates
On 26/1/2006 at 9:06:50 PM [GMT -0500], Stuart Cuddy wrote: Testing duplicates. Have you done any cleaning of the local cache? I haven't seen duplicates in a long time. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.70.02 Qigong(Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Ok, I pulled the pin. Now what? Where are you going? pgpMhae3gfWSa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates
Hello Stuart, Thursday, January 26, 2006, 8:06:50 PM, you wrote: SC Testing duplicates. I sent the test message at which time I had 0 unread messages in my TB folder. When the message arrived, it showed up as 1 message in my TB folder where it was filtered upon arrival. My inbox showed 0 (1) indicating that there were no Unread messages in the Inbox, but there was 1 Unread message in a subfolder (ie TB folder). I waited a couple of minutes to see if auto refreshes did anything, they did not. I then pressed F2 (My Shortcut) to Check New mail for All, at which point a duplicate appeared in my TB folder, although the count in the folder remained as 1. The Inbox however changed to 0 (2). Can anyone using IMAP, confirm my findings. You will probably have to use the drop down to check all mail instead of my F2 shortcut. I also apologize for not using IMAP in the subject so non IMAP users could ignore this thread. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Test message for duplicates
Hello Curtis, Thursday, January 26, 2006, 8:19:30 PM, you wrote: Testing duplicates. C Have you done any cleaning of the local cache? C I haven't seen duplicates in a long time. Could you check as described in my just sent message. I can reproduce as described in that message. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test message for duplicates
On Thursday, January 26, 2006, 8:24:37 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: I then pressed F2 (My Shortcut) to Check New mail for All, at which point a duplicate appeared in my TB folder, although the count in the folder remained as 1. The Inbox however changed to 0 (2). I marked your test message unread, making it the only unread message in my account. I then hit alt-f2, which checks mail for all accounts and did not duplicate your complaint. I don't understand why you are using check mail for all accounts with your IMAP account, since new mail always arrives in short order without, and I think the refresh command would be the preferred method with IMAP, but I don't have ignore check all mail command ticked for my IMAP account so it did perform whatever gets performed with IMAP accounts when requested. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
