Version number?

[Kian Andersen]

Hey,
Where do you guys tell that you have version 3.0.1.30 or whatever!
I can only se 3.0.1

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Re: Version number?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Kian!

On Tuesday, October 12, 2004 at 7:44:35 PM you wrote:

> Where do you guys tell that you have version 3.0.1.30 or whatever!
> I can only se 3.0.1

Hover your cursor over the EXE of TB and such info will be revealed.
Or right-click the EXE, choose properties and then the tab Version.

BTW, after having installed with the latest MSI I still get .29, not
.30. And I tried different ways to install (Custom and Repair, with or
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Re: Version number?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Kian Andersen & everyone else

12-Okt-2004 19:44, you wrote:

> Where do you guys tell that you have version 3.0.1.30 or whatever!

see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Version number?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Kian,

on Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:44:35 +0200GMT, you wrote:

KA> Hey,
KA> Where do you guys tell that you have version 3.0.1.30 or whatever!
KA> I can only se 3.0.1

Same here. The version downloaded this morning has the same size as the
one from the afternoon, although a comparison in my file manager shows
differences. Kerio PF also detected some change. Still, I can't see
which version I'm actually running. I'm sure it's somewhere in the
source... ;-)

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Re: Version number?

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi Dierk Haasis,

Tuesday, October 12, 2004 
you let us know -at least in parts- :
>> Where do you guys tell that you have version 3.0.1.30 or whatever!
>> I can only se 3.0.1

> Hover your cursor over the EXE of TB and such info will be revealed.
> Or right-click the EXE, choose properties and then the tab Version.

> BTW, after having installed with the latest MSI I still get .29, not
> .30. And I tried different ways to install (Custom and Repair, with or
> without original EXE present).

Maybe the reason is, that one uses the home and another one the pro
version? There might be already some slight changes in the naming of the
subversions. Matter of fact: You use pro (shown in header field) and
Kian owns a copy of the home version.




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Re: Version number?

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi Charlene Ferrara,

Tuesday, October 12, 2004 
I myself wrote:


> Maybe the reason is, that one uses the home and another one the pro
> version? There might be already some slight changes in the naming of the
> subversions. Matter of fact: You use pro (shown in header field) and
> Kian owns a copy of the home version.

Just checked it, both exe-files have the same version number: 29
But it might have been ;-)





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Re[2]: Version number?

[Kian Andersen]

Dierk Haasis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) skrev / wrote:
> Hello Kian!

> On Tuesday, October 12, 2004 at 7:44:35 PM you wrote:

>> Where do you guys tell that you have version 3.0.1.30 or whatever!
>> I can only se 3.0.1

> Hover your cursor over the EXE of TB and such info will be revealed.
> Or right-click the EXE, choose properties and then the tab Version.

> BTW, after having installed with the latest MSI I still get .29, not
> .30. And I tried different ways to install (Custom and Repair, with or
> without original EXE present).

Thanks! Got it!

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Nod32, version number for Marek

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi Bat! folks,
Ok, i managed to get the version number of the plugin, it's 1.1092.
Hth.
And to the mods, do i still not have a cut mark? I see it in the
message editor as i compose so it's there at least until i send the
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Krister,

> And to the mods, do i still not have a cut mark? 

Yes, you have it and works fine.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, May 13, 2005, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Ok, i managed to get the version number of the plugin, it's 1.1092.

this is correct plugin and correct version number, that's strange, I
am using plugin and NOD32 for months and never saw any warning during
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, May 13, 2005 at 5:58:03 AM [GMT -0500], Marek Mikus wrote:

> this is correct plugin and correct version number, that's strange, I
> am using plugin and NOD32 for months and never saw any warning during
> sending :-(

Does that plugin version work with the new NOD32 v2.5 that I just
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Marek,

> this is correct plugin and correct version number, ...

I installed this plugin a few days ago just for testing it, but I have
not received any infected messages since then. Do you have any in your
Quarantine folder that you could forward to me?

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

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Hello Allie,

  A reminder of what Allie Martin on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 13:04:44 GMT +0200

> Does that plugin version work with the new NOD32 v2.5 that I just
> upgraded to?

 I'm using the very latest version of NOD32 and that pluggin is working
 fine here. At least I get no errors like I did at the beginning of this
 Beta/RC cycle.


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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 13:09:05 GMT +0200

> Do you have any in your Quarantine folder that you could forward to me?

I'd like to test that too if I may.


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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

Hello Marek,

  A reminder of what Marek Mikus on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 15:01:50 GMT +0200

> I have exported 10 infected messages I have in Quarantine, You can
> download it from here:

 What do we do with it?

 I scanned it with NOD32 and got this:

 date: 13.5.2005  time: 14:04:07
 Scanned disks, directories and files: C:\Documents and 
Settings\Tony\Desktop\quarantine.unix
 number of scanned files: 1
 number of viruses found: 0
 time of completion: 14:04:07 total scanning time: 0 sec (00:00:00)


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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

Hello Marek,

  A reminder of what Marek Mikus on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 15:16:57 GMT +0200

> file is password-protected, so antivirus can't check its content.

 I was talking about after I extracted it, after entering the password.


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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Marek,

> Unpack it, import to TB and check folder via "Folder | Check for
> viruses".

That works, detected all of them. Now I have to send one of them to
myself and see if it is scanned/detected when receiving.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Marek,

> http://www.thebat.cz/files/quarantine.rar
> 
> Password is "quarantine"

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Marek,

> Unpack it, import to TB and check folder via "Folder | Check for
> viruses".

I have sent some of them between different accounts and plugin is
detecting them.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 16:39:41 GMT +0200

> and plugin is detecting them.

Me too and I get this:

This part was removed because it was infected.
Anti-virus reports:
Win32/Netsky.D worm

The original part header follows:

Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name="document_word.pif"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="document_word.pif"


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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Tony,

> Me too and I get this:
> 
> This part was removed because it was infected.

I'm just sending them to Quarantine folder.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Ian,

> I shall forward them the message in its entirety and ask them why it
> was considered infected.

Probably because 'document_word.pif". *.pif are typical infected files.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

Hello Ian,

  A reminder of what Ian A. White on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 22:40:20 GMT +0200

> I shall forward them the message in its entirety and ask them why it
> was considered infected.

 It's probably because the name of a common virus is included in the text
 but I'll be interested in your ISP's reply?


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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

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--On 13 May 2005 23:41 +0200 MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Probably because 'document_word.pif". *.pif are typical infected files.
I didn't send any pif files, just plain text with a NOD32 virus report in 
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello MAU & everyone else,

on 13-Mai-2005 at 13:06 you (MAU) wrote:

> I installed this plugin a few days ago just for testing it, but I have
> not received any infected messages since then. Do you have any in your
> Quarantine folder that you could forward to me?

You can create your own "test virus":
http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

(open a text editor, paste the string into into, save the file as
"eicar.com", attach to a message & send to yourself)

I can't send the string over the list because the list server will refuse
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Greg Strong]

Hello Marek,

On Fri, 13 May 2005 12:58:03 +0200 GMT(5/13/2005, 5:58 AM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marek Mikus wrote:

>> Ok, i managed to get the version number of the plugin, it's 1.1092.

> this is correct plugin and correct version number, 

I downloaded from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/solutions/avirus.php.

The version number I see in Options | Preferences | Protection |
Antivirus | Virus checking Plug-ins | version is 1.1096.

Hmmm!  A new version or just a typo?

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Greg Strong]

Hello Marek,

On Sat, 14 May 2005 19:48:42 +0200 GMT(5/14/2005, 12:48 PM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marek Mikus wrote:

>> The version number I see in Options | Preferences | Protection |
>> Antivirus | Virus checking Plug-ins | version is 1.1096.

> this is number of virus base currently available in NOD32.

Ok how do I get version # of the plug-in?

I'm on the trial version of NOD32. Just want to make sure I'm using the
correct version of the plug-in.  Thanks!

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Greg Strong]

Hello Marek,

On Sat, 14 May 2005 20:07:54 +0200 GMT(5/14/2005, 1:07 PM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marek Mikus wrote:

>> Ok how do I get version # of the plug-in?

>> I'm on the trial version of NOD32. Just want to make sure I'm using the
>> correct version of the plug-in.  Thanks!

> this is not possible, there is no such info in this version and this
> is last one :-)

Either I misread or how can you say the following?

,- [ per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
| > Ok, i managed to get the version number of the plugin, it's 1.1092.
| 
| this is correct plug-in and correct version number,
`-

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Tony,

>> Probably because 'document_word.pif". *.pif are typical infected files.
> 
> I didn't send any pif files, just plain text with a NOD32 virus report in
> it.

Yes, but the text 'document_word.pif" was in your message, wasn't it?

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Alexander,

>> I installed this plugin a few days ago just for testing it, but I have
>> not received any infected messages since then. Do you have any in your
>> Quarantine folder that you could forward to me?
> 
> You can create your own "test virus":
> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

Yes, I know. But I wanted to get some real and latest ones. Marek Mikus
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hello MAU,

just now (on 05/14/2005 at 21:49) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> I didn't send any pif files, just plain text with a NOD32 virus report in
>> it.
> Yes, but the text 'document_word.pif" was in your message, wasn't it?

No, Tonys message didn't have a file *.pif in its message, nor was its
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

--On 14 May 2005 21:49 +0200 MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, but the text 'document_word.pif" was in your message, wasn't it?
No it wasn't. All I did was to create a *new* message and then pasted the 
NOD32 report into it. There was nothing different about it to this message 
whereby your text is pasted as a quote above.

It was a plain, common or garden text message created from new.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Greg,

> Antivirus | Virus checking Plug-ins | version is 1.1096.
> 
> Hmmm!  A new version or just a typo?

That I know of, the version displayed is that of the last _signatures_
file which, as of today, is 1.1096.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Manuel,

>>> I didn't send any pif files, just plain text with a NOD32 virus report in
>>> it.
>> Yes, but the text 'document_word.pif" was in your message, wasn't it?
> 
> No, Tonys message didn't have a file *.pif in its message, nor was its
> content pasted in the message.

I know, but the text (letters) 'document_word.pif' were in his message,
He included the whole NOD32 report which was:

,- [ In  Tony wrote:]
| This part was removed because it was infected.
| Anti-virus reports:
| Win32/Netsky.D worm
| 
| The original part header follows:
| 
| Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
| name="document_word.pif"
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| Content-Disposition: attachment;
| filename="document_word.pif"
`-

Now, does that text contain the words/letters "document_word.pif" in it,
or not?

It is actually a copy of the message headers that some ISPs look at for
possible spam or viruses. That's what I am saying. That probably that's
what Ian's ISP virus scanning saw and flagged Tony's message as
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Tony,

>> Yes, but the text 'document_word.pif" was in your message, wasn't it?
> 
> No it wasn't. All I did was to create a *new* message and then pasted the
> NOD32 report into it. There was nothing different about it to this message
> whereby your text is pasted as a quote above.
> 
> It was a plain, common or garden text message created from new.

See my reply to Manuel, please.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

--On 14 May 2005 22:31 +0200 MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That probably that's
what Ian's ISP virus scanning saw and flagged Tony's message as
infected.
Well if that's the case Ian will probably let us know because you included 
those words in the past 3 or 4 of your posts, And if it picks it up from 
within one of my messages, it'll certainly pick it up from yours.

I doubt that what it was though, I mean we could have been talking about 
helmets or something :)

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hey MAU,

just now (on 05/14/2005 at 22:31) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Now, does that text contain the words/letters "document_word.pif" in it,
> or not?

Ohm, hmm,... have to go now. :D

> It is actually a copy of the message headers that some ISPs look at for
> possible spam or viruses.

Okay, but this is a *very* bad way, I think. ;)

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

--On 14 May 2005 22:32 +0200 MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
See my reply to Manuel, please.
I've seen it and replied to it. Just waiting for Ian's comments to see if 
your posts got flagged.

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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[MAU]

Hello Tony,

> Well if that's the case Ian will probably let us know because you included
> those words in the past 3 or 4 of your posts, And if it picks it up from
> within one of my messages, it'll certainly pick it up from yours.

Maybe not because there is a difference. Your message included NOD32
report which in turn included the header lines for an attachment and,
you didn't quote them (i.e. with >) the (stupid) virus/spam scanner
could have taken them as real. I have seen this (or similar) happen
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Re: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Tony Boom]

--On 14 May 2005 22:45 +0200 MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Maybe not because there is a difference.

My mailboxes have server side virus scanning and they never picked it up. Either way it's good it did get flagged, better safe than a penicillin shot in the buttocks :)  


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Re[2]: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, May 13, 2005, Allie Martin wrote:

>> this is correct plugin and correct version number, that's strange, I
>> am using plugin and NOD32 for months and never saw any warning during
>> sending :-(

> Does that plugin version work with the new NOD32 v2.5 that I just
> upgraded to?

I am using NOD 2.5 version two weeks and have not any problem.

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Re[2]: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, May 13, 2005, MAU wrote:

>> this is correct plugin and correct version number, ...

> I installed this plugin a few days ago just for testing it, but I have
> not received any infected messages since then. Do you have any in your
> Quarantine folder that you could forward to me?

I have exported 10 infected messages I have in Quarantine, You can
download it from here:

http://www.thebat.cz/files/quarantine.rar

Password is "quarantine"

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Re[2]: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, May 13, 2005, Tony Boom wrote:

>> I have exported 10 infected messages I have in Quarantine, You can
>> download it from here:

>  What do we do with it?

>  I scanned it with NOD32 and got this:

>  date: 13.5.2005  time: 14:04:07
>  Scanned disks, directories and files: C:\Documents and
> Settings\Tony\Desktop\quarantine.unix
>  number of scanned files: 1
>  number of viruses found: 0
>  time of completion: 14:04:07 total scanning time: 0 sec (00:00:00)

file is password-protected, so antivirus can't check its content.

Unpack it, import to TB and check folder via "Folder | Check for
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Re[2]: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, May 14, 2005, Greg Strong wrote:

>> this is correct plugin and correct version number,

> I downloaded from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/solutions/avirus.php.

> The version number I see in Options | Preferences | Protection |
> Antivirus | Virus checking Plug-ins | version is 1.1096.

this is number of virus base currently available in NOD32.

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Re[2]: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, May 14, 2005, Greg Strong wrote:

>>> The version number I see in Options | Preferences | Protection |
>>> Antivirus | Virus checking Plug-ins | version is 1.1096.

>> this is number of virus base currently available in NOD32.

> Ok how do I get version # of the plug-in?

> I'm on the trial version of NOD32. Just want to make sure I'm using the
> correct version of the plug-in.  Thanks!

this is not possible, there is no such info in this version and this
is last one :-)

Max promised to add plugin version into next version, but there are
no problems, as I know, so it is not needed.

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Re[2]: Nod32, version number for Marek

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, May 14, 2005, Greg Strong wrote:

> ,- [ per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
| >> Ok, i managed to get the version number of the plugin, it's 1.1092.
> | 
> | this is correct plug-in and correct version number,
> `-

> Unless you meant version # of the virus signature database version.

yes, I thought virus signature database version number, btw previous
version of plugin displayed "0.1b".

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Is it time for a version number jump?

[Peter Steiner]

Hello TB! beta testers

with all this big improvements in the Beta 1.42 series (new message
base, many long standing bugs corrected), there is perhaps the time
for a major jump in the version number.

I would propose 1.50, but as RIT Labs don't seem to like numbers
ending in zero (quoting Max: "We've jumped from 1.39 to 1.41 to
avoid trailing zeros - they are sometimes treated as milestones."),
we could settle to 1.51 ;-)

There would be another advantage: many TB! are used to just copy a
new version over the old one. Now with the new message base and the
potential problems of converting (not that i think there are still
major problems with the conversion), skipping some numbers could
help indicating that it is more than just "another new version".

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

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Hello Alexander
On Friday, March 2, 2007 you wrote:

> Whats the point of naming the thing 3.98.02.2? Why not use 3.98.03
> instead? You skipped the entire 3.97.x branch after the 3.96.x betas,
> and you don't owe me an explanation (maybe its some sort of moldavian
> superstition that 3.97 is an evil number?), but still, I'd prefer a more
> consistent version numbering. After all, there's still 97 subversions
> left that can use 3.98.xx numbering given that we're at .02 now. :-P

Is not version numbering used to note how much work was done in the
release? v4 will be a new release but unless you really HAVE uncovered
a Moldavian Conspiricy, it probably reflects concerns the amount of
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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Rick Grunwald]

Hello Alexander
On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote:

> Hello Rick Grunwald & everyone else,

> on Saturday, March 3, 2007 at 16:00 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote:

>> Is not version numbering used to note how much work was done in the
>> release?

> It would be entirely new to me that there are strict guidelines how
> developers should use version numbering. :-)

Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to
research who and where. Nothing that could or should be "enforced
If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been
updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a
significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite)

It's been years since I have seen that
Here's a Wikipedia article that demonstrates that there is a definite
structure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, March 3, 2007, Rick Grunwald wrote:

> Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to
> research who and where. Nothing that could or should be "enforced
> If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been
> updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a
> significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite)

and do You really think, any company uses this? As I remember, we were
able to see Google Desktop 1.x, 2.x 3.x and 4.x during one year. So should
we expect, they completely rewrote its code threetimes in one year?

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

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On Saturday, March 3, 2007, 21:33:48, Rick Grunwald wrote:

> Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to
> research who and where. Nothing that could or should be "enforced
> If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been
> updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a
> significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite)

Find me MS Word 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 (And Windows NT 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 :)

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Rick Grunwald]

Hello Marek
On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote:

> and do You really think, any company uses this? As I remember, we were
> able to see Google Desktop 1.x, 2.x 3.x and 4.x during one year. So should
> we expect, they completely rewrote its code threetimes in one year?

It doesn't matter what I think. I was explaining that there IS a
protocol for numbering software. I SPECIFICALLY said it didn't mean a
total rewrite but the decimals "usually" indicate the approximate
amount of code AFFECTED. Whole number increments are new versions - I
didn't even TRY to imply that they threw out all there old code and
started fresh (Really!) Ritlabs could decide that all is ready and
take this very release and rename it 4.0 and release it as a new
version

But since you asked what I think my answer is YES most big companies
are in compliance and follow it fairly closely. It is not a set of
rules but rather guidelines. But it does exist

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Rick Grunwald]

Hello Jernej
On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote:

> Find me MS Word 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 (And Windows NT 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 :)

It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines
It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines
It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines
It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines
It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines

You either get it or you don't
Lets close the subject - you are 100% correct

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Perry Nelson]

Hi Vili and fellow beta testers,

Sunday, March 4, 2007, 8:24:56 AM, you wrote:

V> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
V> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Vili,

On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:24:56 -0500 GMT (04/03/2007, 20:24 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

V> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
V> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html

Tricked in the middle of March, long before April fool's day. I
disconnected from the internet and reconnected for safety reasons,
hoping you don't know who I am, as I don't have a fixed IP address.

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[MAU]

Hello Alexander,

>> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
>> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html
>
> lol Vili!!!

Shall we kill him? Only virtually, of course ;-)

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Rick Grunwald]

Hello MAU
On Sunday, March 4, 2007 you wrote:

> Hello Alexander,

>>> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
>>> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html
>>
>> lol Vili!!!

> Shall we kill him? Only virtually, of course ;-)

No - he would just come back as version 1.1 :))

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Rick Grunwald]

Hello Alexander
On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote:

> Hello Rick Grunwald & everyone else,

> on Saturday, March 3, 2007 at 16:00 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote:

>> Is not version numbering used to note how much work was done in the
>> release?

> It would be entirely new to me that there are strict guidelines how
> developers should use version numbering. :-)

Have you been (virtually) executed yet or do we have to wait for
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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Robert van der Hulst]

Hi Vili,

> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html

ROFL !

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Vili,

On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:35:42 -0500 GMT (04/03/2007, 21:35 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

>> Tricked in the middle of March, long before April fool's day. I
>> disconnected from the internet and reconnected for safety reasons,
>> hoping you don't know who I am, as I don't have a fixed IP address.

V> :  Sorry,  I  really  intended  this  to  be a joke.

I know. I should have used a smiley but thought it was clear from my
non-sensicle last sentence.

V> I dont log IP addresses on my server. If I know well, I can see in
V> the log, what IP accessed what page, but I think that is standard.
V> I dont care who access my servers. And I wont track anybody. I dont
V> care.

Vili, I posted on the list that I accessed your server! This makes it
clear that I had no intentions of hiding my access.

I wrote: "... hoping you don't know who I am" - and then I signed with
my full name. I thought the irony was obvious, but obviously it
wasn't. Sorry for the confusion.

V> Come on guys, a little sense of humor...

All is fine. I understood your intentions correctly from the
beginning, only my posting came over too dry. ;-)

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Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Sunday, March 4, 2007, 10:55:10 AM, MAU wrote:

> Shall we kill him? Only virtually, of course ;-)

you can send him a stale bottle of beer


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Re[2]: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Vili]

Hello Alexander,

>> Is not version numbering used to note how much work was done in the
>> release?
> It  would be entirely new to me that there are strict guidelines how
> developers should use version numbering. :-)

Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html


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Re[2]: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Vili]

Hello Thomas,

> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:24:56 -0500 GMT (04/03/2007, 20:24 +0700 GMT),
> Vili wrote:
V>> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
V>> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html
> Tricked in the middle of March, long before April fool's day. I
> disconnected from the internet and reconnected for safety reasons,
> hoping you don't know who I am, as I don't have a fixed IP address.

:  Sorry,  I  really  intended  this  to  be a joke. I dont log IP
addresses  on my server. If I know well, I can see in the log, what IP
accessed  what  page,  but  I  think that is standard. I dont care who
access my servers. And I wont track anybody. I dont care.

Come on guys, a little sense of humor...

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Re[2]: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Vili]

Hello MAU,

>>> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
>>> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html
>> lol Vili!!!
> Shall we kill him? Only virtually, of course ;-)

:

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Re[2]: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Vili]

Hello Alexander,

>>> Is not version numbering used to note how much work was done in the
 release?
>>> It  would be entirely new to me that there are strict guidelines how
>>> developers should use version numbering. :-)
>> Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here:
>> http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html
> LOL Vili!!!

I hoped wou will like it :)

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Re[2]: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)

[Vili]

Hello Thomas,

V>> Come on guys, a little sense of humor...
> All is fine. I understood your intentions correctly from the
> beginning, only my posting came over too dry. ;-)

Than everything is fine :)

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