Repressing the email addresses in a mailing list

[Woofie]

Hello TBUDL,

Is  there a way of suppressing the email addresses in a mailing list
  without having to use the BCC function?  

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Re: Repressing the email addresses in a mailing list

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Woofie,


On  Sunday, March 05, 2000  at  16:44:17 GMT +0800 (which was 12:44 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


> Hello TBUDL,

> Is  there a way of suppressing the email addresses in a mailing list
>   without having to use the BCC function?  

 Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's wrong with BCC?  Do you
 not want the list members to show up on the copy that's in the Sent
 folder?  If so, you can always BCC yourself a copy too and save that
 as your Sent message.

 Either that, or as I mentioned in a post a couple of weeks ago, if
 you have your list in your address book, just use the list name in
 the BCC field.  For some reason TB never converts the list name into
 the individual addresses on the copy that is kept by your computer.

 Now if all of that still doesn't do what you need, then maybe you
 should set up a mailing list. There used to be a few sites on the net
 who would host a mailing list for free, so you could just send your
 messages to one address and it would be distributed to whom ever you
 wanted. Most of these services allow you to choose if you want to
 have the list traffic one directional (you can send to the list, but
 no one else can), or bi-directional (everyone can send to the list).

 There is a way to send mail manually by connecting to the mail server
 and entering the appropriate info that way, but that's not using TB,
 and I'm not terribly familiar with the details. However if you are
 truly interested in the details, look through the archives from
 January, and I'm sure you'll find several references.

 Does that help?
 
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Reset a password?

[Michael Wieczorek]

Hello Bat'ler! ;-)

Is there any way for an administrator to reset/set a password for an
account, whose user has forget his password?

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Re[2]: Repressing the email addresses in a mailing list

[Woofie]

Hello Januk,

Sunday, March 05, 2000, 5:02:38 PM, you wrote:


JA>  Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's wrong with BCC?  Do you
JA>  not want the list members to show up on the copy that's in the Sent
JA>  folder?  If so, you can always BCC yourself a copy too and save that
JA>  as your Sent message.

Many thanks for your reply:)

No...what I want is for a whole ream of addresses NOT to show up in
the recipients' copies. This of course, can be accomplished by using
BCC. However, BCC sometimes confuses folks, cuz they do not know it has
been sent BCC and they do a reply all and things bounce all over the
place for themif they see the name of the list only in their
"from" box, they can see it is a list with the recipients' addresses
suppressed.

In other emailers, such as Eudora I can send to  list of folks and
still repress the individual members by making sure there is an entry
in the NAME field of the list. I am just not sure how to accomplish
this with The Bat..and I much prefer to use the bat if I can as it
does not chew up resources.


Thanks Januk:)

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Re: Reset a password?

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Michael, 

On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 at 10:46:41 [GMT +0100], you wrote:
MW> Is there any way for an administrator to reset/set a password for
MW> an account, whose user has forget his password?

Here is a repost of a message I sent quite a while back concerning the
real lack of security in TB using passworded accounts.

You should be able to figure out from this how to do what you need.

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I got bored today and started playing with the account passwords. I
remember someone posting a while back that you could move a folder
from a passworded account to another account and read the messages in
TB.

After confirming this, and confirming that an account password is
stored in the account.cfg file, I did the below:

1. Made a backup of the account.cfg in case I screwed up.
2. In TB, I passworded an account
3. Using Textpad, I opened both the account.cfg and my backup
4. I compared the sections where the account password appeared and
   then just deleted the account password in account.cfg, I also
   removed some blank characters (or they appeared that way in
   Textpad.) It happened to be three blank characters, and wouldn't
   you know it, I was short three null characters in the resulting
   account.cfg line where the account password had appeared.
5. Just for grins, I didn't replace them and saved account.cfg
6. Closed and restarted TB
7. The passworded account was no longer passworded.

This is a major bummer in two aspects.

The first is that obviously a moved message.msb should not be readable
by TB when moved to another account.

Speaking of which, I couldn't figure this one out. After passwording
an account, the messages.msb appears encrypted (at least to plaintext
editors). After moving the "encrypted" messages.msb to an unpassworded
account which TB can then read, the messages.msb file still appears
"encrypted" to plaintext editors. Is it encrypted or what? If so, it
appears independent of the account password, so maybe just an XOR or
something which TB can recognize and undo.

Secondly, although I realize that moving the messages.msb is simpler
than editing out the password, there should be some sort of hash or
checksum that will recognize that something is missing in the
account.cfg. Granted, every time that you change an account setting,
the checksum/hash would have to be recalculated, but once you have an
account set up, you really don't mess with its properties after that
(other than to maybe add quick templates or cookies (if not using an
external cookie file.)

My point is that I don't see the use of password protecting your
account except to keep nosey but non-computer savvy people from
reading your mail.


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Re: Reset a password?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Leif,


On Sunday, March 05, 2000 at 20:43:19 GMT +0900 (which was 3:43 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

> My point is that I don't see the use of password protecting your
> account except to keep nosey but non-computer savvy people from
> reading your mail.

 Isn't that basically what TB is trying to do?  It is like the locks
 on diaries, they aren't going to keep anyone from getting in if they
 really want to, but it just prevents the nosey people.  If you
 really want to make it secure, would it not be better to use a
 specialized encryption package to encrypt your message databases?


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Re: Repressing the email addresses in a mailing list

[Paula Ford]

On Sunday, March 05, 2000, Woofie wrote:

> Hello Januk,

> Sunday, March 05, 2000, 5:02:38 PM, Woofie wrote:

> No...what I want is for a whole ream of addresses NOT to show up in
> the recipients' copies. This of course, can be accomplished by using
> BCC. However, BCC sometimes confuses folks, cuz they do not know it has
> been sent BCC and they do a reply all and things bounce all over the
> place for themif they see the name of the list only in their
> "from" box, they can see it is a list with the recipients' addresses
> suppressed.

I'm assuming when you say 'their "from" box that you mean that you want
the "TO" field of the message in their InBox to say something like
"Group Name". You could do that simply by putting something like "Group
Name [your e-mail address]" in the TO field, then putting the addresses
of the group in the BCC. You can do this automatically by using a
folder, group, or address template or by using a quick template.

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Default mailer

[Michael L. Wilson]

Greetings,

 I was messing around with some settings in office 2000, and
 somehow set Outlook 2000 as the default mailer.  How to I tell
 The Bat to be my default mailer again?

 Thanks.

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Re: Default mailer

[Nick Andriash]

On Sunday, March 05, 2000, 5:33:26 PM, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

> I was messing around with some settings in office 2000, and
>  somehow set Outlook 2000 as the default mailer.  How to I tell
>  The Bat to be my default mailer again?

Try Start/Settings/Control Panel/Internet Options/Programs and there under
E-Mail, you should see a drop down list... select TB for your default
mailer.

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Re[2]: Default mailer

[Michael L. Wilson]

Greetings Nick,

  thanks.

  Michael

on Sunday, March 05, 2000 at 6:56:16 PM, you mentioned something concerning:

NA> On Sunday, March 05, 2000, 5:33:26 PM, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

>> I was messing around with some settings in office 2000, and
>>  somehow set Outlook 2000 as the default mailer.  How to I tell
>>  The Bat to be my default mailer again?

NA> Try Start/Settings/Control Panel/Internet Options/Programs and there under
NA> E-Mail, you should see a drop down list... select TB for your default
NA> mailer.

NA> Nick



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Re: Settings Reset at random?

[Paula Ford]

On Friday, March 03, 2000, Todd Louis Green wrote:

> I just downloaded The Bat and have been playing with it for about two
> hours. I think it's an amazing program as it has a wide variety of
> capabilities not found with my current client (Forte Agent).

You've only just begun to discover what TB can do.

> However, for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out how to keep
> various settings from going back to their defaults seemingly at
> random.

You've wandered into a murky world here, which will hopefully improve in
the not-too-distant future.

To set the default for an account, highlight the InBox, then check the
"Use the account default column settings" in the properties. Set the
columns as you want them for your default, preferably by right-clicking
anywhere on the column headings if you want to remove or add columns. If
you want your default to have a setting for viewing threads, make your
choice for the InBox, even if you don't want it for the InBox, and do it
before you set your columns. With me so far?

Now, you can uncheck the "Use the account default" for your InBox if you
want your InBox set up differently, but the default will remain as you
set it up and will be used for any folder that you create where you
check the "Use the account default". However, here are the tricky parts.

If you change the settings for any folder that has "Use the account
default" checked, this not only changes the setting in all folders using
the default, but these settings become the default. Also, if you have
included a view thread setting, then change that setting, for example,
from "by reference" to "by subject", the column settings change. The
column settings only stick for the setting for viewing threads that you
selected initially.

HTH. If not, write back.

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Re: Settings Reset at random?

[Paula Ford]

On Friday, March 03, 2000, Todd Louis Green wrote:

> I just downloaded The Bat and have been playing with it for about two
> hours. I think it's an amazing program as it has a wide variety of
> capabilities not found with my current client (Forte Agent).

You've only just begun to discover what TB can do.

> However, for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out how to keep
> various settings from going back to their defaults seemingly at
> random.

> In particular, I cannot get the View|ViewThreadsBy setting to remain
> in place with each restart of the program.

> Even worse are the message columns.  I have four accounts
> set up on my incarnation of The Bat.  I am trying to get them all
> to share the same message column settings.  But one account seems
> to be fine (somehow I figured out how to set the "default" for
> that account and the rest follow it as instructed in their
> Folder|Properties menus) ... while another account reverts to the
> original setting immediately after I set it, and I cannot get that
> account's "default" to change.

> Any help would be greatly appreciated.  You can email me
> at this account, [EMAIL PROTECTED], with any advice.

> Thanks, and stay safe!  ...Todd








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