Re: Versions

[Gold Gaurami]

Hello Cameleon and everyone else...

C> About  the  beta3  of  1.46,  how  long  time will it work, or will it
C> recognize the reg-key of 1.45 ?

Just unzip the download into your The Bat! folder, overwriting the
existing thebat.exe file. Start Bat! as usual and 1.46b3 is now
active. If you have registered Bat!, any future 1.x betas will (I
assume) recognize your registration info.

C> The  fact  that  we  can't cancel any POP-checking in 1.45 is really a
C> problem  for  me. I hope it IS fixed in the 1.46beta !!!

Fixed in 1.46b3. At least, I haven't had any problems.

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Versions

[Cameleon]

Hi,

About  the  beta3  of  1.46,  how  long  time will it work, or will it
recognize the reg-key of 1.45 ?

The  fact  that  we  can't cancel any POP-checking in 1.45 is really a
problem  for  me. I hope it IS fixed in the 1.46beta !!!

Thanks.

Leon



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Re: Expanding trees

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Ming-Li,

On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:26:28 -0700GMT (07/08/2000, 00:26 +0800GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:

ML> I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread",
ML> right (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key.
>>   Yes!

ML> I'm a little confused. You say "yes" here, but according to your

Sure, he could have meant "yes" as in, "yes there *is* such a key", or
"yes" as in "yes, you're right, there is *no* such key". ;-)

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Re[2]: Expanding trees

[Pasquale J. Festa Sr.]

Hello Ming-Li,

August 06, 2000, 12:26:28 PM, you wrote:


ML> If you do mean the "next message in thread" (regardless read or
ML> unread), then there're a couple of not so elegant workaround:
  Hope to lessen the confusionYes Here! :>)
ML> 1. Use Ctrl-Shift-U to mark the whole message as unread before
ML> double-clicking the message (to open the message window).

ML> 2. Enable the message list pane in the message window. You may
ML> adjust the pane size to only one (message list) item high, so it
ML> won't take too much screen estate. TB would remember this setting.
ML> The next time you open the message window, the cursor would stay at
ML> the message list pane, with the current message highlighted, so you
ML> may either use Ctrl-plus (the plus sign on the Num-keypad) to expand
ML> the thread, then use the arrow button on the tool bar to navigate.
ML> Or if you are a keyboard person, you may just use the arrow keys to
ML> navigate without expanding it first. (Hint: using the right arrow
ML> key to go down one level.)

   You're right not so elegant.
   
ML> I know, I wish TB is as easy to navigate as in Agent, too.

And everyone who has Agent wish it could do HTML like The Bat!


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Re[3]: CRC error

[Nikola Mihajlovic]

On Monday, August 07, 2000, Arjan Vergeer wrote:

AV>>> You're  right,  but  when  I wanna install the intpack.exe it comes-up
AV>>> with the ERROR "CRC error in file LngPack.exe". To me, it looks like a
AV>>> Windows error. But I'm not sure. Someone have a clue?
...

AV> Problem solved! Thanx!

Mind telling us how?


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Re: Size limit of MESSAGES.TBB?

[Ming-Li]

Hi Michael,

> is there a limit (say of approx. 32MB) in the size the file(s)
> MESSAGES.TBB may have?

Don't know.

> I'm asking because TB! was not able anymore to compress the MESSAGES.TBB
> of my TBUDL folder (it simply hang).  The file had a size of 32,436,354
> bytes. Deleting MESSAGES.tbi didn't help.

Just tried. I made a folder about 40 MB big, and TB didn't have
trouble handling it. I tried reading, deleting, compressing,
deleting again, compressing again, and the final size of the .TBB
came down to around 32 MB, still no problem. It slowed down a bit on
my aging 200 Mhz PC, but nothing went wrong.

I'm using a different version of TB on a different OS from yours,
though. Don't know if that matters.

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Size limit of MESSAGES.TBB?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Hello The Bat! users,

is there a limit (say of approx. 32MB) in the size the file(s)
MESSAGES.TBB may have?

I'm asking because TB! was not able anymore to compress the MESSAGES.TBB
of my TBUDL folder (it simply hang).  The file had a size of 32,436,354
bytes. Deleting MESSAGES.tbi didn't help.

I then splitted MESSAGES.TBB in two pieces of more or less equal size
with a hex editor and somehow managed to get access to the most recent
messages again this way, but it was a major hassle.


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Re[2]: [OFF TOPIC] the .tc

[Gerd Ewald]

Hi Fred,

on Sun, 6 Aug 2000 19:43:43 +0200 GMT
your local time, which was 06.08.2000, 19:43:43 (GMT+0200) my local time,
you wrote about "[OFF TOPIC] the .tc":



F>> I live in Montreal Quebec but I'm Belgian (small french country next
F>> to France).

FvV> This is typical for a french speaking Belgium!
FvV> Belgium is a Dutch speaking country next to the Netherlands ;-)



Although I can see someone coming with a trout in his hands;

Thank you for correcting that. Furthermore; there is a very tiny German minority
in Belgium: so is it a German speaking country next to the German border 
-just kidding-


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Re[2]: CRC error

[Arjan Vergeer]

> Hello Arjan,

AV>> You're  right,  but  when  I wanna install the intpack.exe it comes-up
AV>> with the ERROR "CRC error in file LngPack.exe". To me, it looks like a
AV>> Windows error. But I'm not sure. Someone have a clue?

> This is a RAR self-extracting archive, but there seems to be a problem
> with  it. Did you use Netscape to download it? Try different server or
> differentprogram.Intpackisalsoonmypage,
> www.thebat.i.krakow.pl/download (the filename is changed).

Problem solved! Thanx!

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Re: CRC error

[Christopher J. Trybowski]

Hello Arjan,
On Sunday, August 06, 2000 you wrote:

>> Hmmm, I could find no LngPack.exe on RIT's web site. Where did you
>> download it? The file for multilingual support (including UI
>> translation and additional spellchecker) is intpack.exe.

AV> You're  right,  but  when  I wanna install the intpack.exe it comes-up
AV> with the ERROR "CRC error in file LngPack.exe". To me, it looks like a
AV> Windows error. But I'm not sure. Someone have a clue?

This is a RAR self-extracting archive, but there seems to be a problem
with  it. Did you use Netscape to download it? Try different server or
differentprogram.Intpackisalsoonmypage,
www.thebat.i.krakow.pl/download (the filename is changed).

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Re[2]: Backing up in order to reformat

[Nikola Mihajlovic]

On Sunday, August 06, 2000, Curtis wrote:

T>>> I'm planning to reformat my hard drive and was wondering how I should
T>>> go about backing up the all the file folder structure and emails.  I
...

NM>> You bet there is. Back up up you MAIL folder (by default, this is
...

C> Or another way is to back up the mail folder as well as TB!'s
C> installation directory, export the registry key HKCU/Software/RIT. Upon
C> reformatting and reinstalling windows, restore TB!'s directory to the
C> same directory and path it was originally and restore the registry key.
C> It would be as if nothing had been done to TB!. :-)

Yes, but I was only answering the question. Though it would be better
and easier for Tai to do it your way;)


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Re: [OFF TOPIC] the .tc

[Fred van Veen]

Hello All,
On 6-8-2000 17:13:52, Frédéric wrote:

F> I live in Montreal Quebec but I'm Belgian (small french country next
F> to France).

This is typical for a french speaking Belgium!
Belgium is a Dutch speaking country next to the Netherlands ;-)


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Re: Expanding trees

[Ming-Li]

Hi Pasquale,

ML I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread",
ML right (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key.
>   Yes!

I'm a little confused. You say "yes" here, but according to your
description below it seems to me what you want is a shortcut key to
got to the next message in thread, *regardless whether it's read or
not*! Agent's "T" key would take you to the next *unread* message in
thread. IOW, it would skip read messages. Which way do you want?
  
> I do now thank you, but I like the message screen full with  just
> the message, when I'am done I want to hit a key ( or  two)  to
> get me to the next message without closing the  messgae  window
> I'am in now.

See?

If you do mean the "next message in thread" (regardless read or
unread), then there're a couple of not so elegant workaround:

1. Use Ctrl-Shift-U to mark the whole message as unread before
double-clicking the message (to open the message window).

2. Enable the message list pane in the message window. You may
adjust the pane size to only one (message list) item high, so it
won't take too much screen estate. TB would remember this setting.
The next time you open the message window, the cursor would stay at
the message list pane, with the current message highlighted, so you
may either use Ctrl-plus (the plus sign on the Num-keypad) to expand
the thread, then use the arrow button on the tool bar to navigate.
Or if you are a keyboard person, you may just use the arrow keys to
navigate without expanding it first. (Hint: using the right arrow
key to go down one level.)

I know, I wish TB is as easy to navigate as in Agent, too.

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Re: Expanding trees

[Curtis]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 07:07:01 -0400, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote:

C>>  You seem to be unaware of the view folder windows own message list.
PJFS> Yes I was, thank you again, only been using the bat for under a
PJFS> year, so I'm still getting to know this program, ( I'm still in
PJFS> Agent mode ).

  Ahh. Nice to have that one cleared up. :-)

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Re[2]: Expanding trees

[Pasquale J. Festa Sr.]

Hello Curtis,

August 05, 2000, 6:48:10 AM, you wrote:

C> On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:54:39 -0400, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote:
ML>>> I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread", right
ML>>> (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key.
  Yes!
  
C>  CTRL+} does a similar sort of thing. IOW's if you're in a thread
C>  and there's another unread message there, CTRL+} will move you to that
C>  message and no other.
dosn't work that way here?

PJFS>> If your in message mode, i.e. I'm reading this message and want to
PJFS>> read next message in *this thread * the ctrl key plus your
PJFS>> directional keys for up and down will take you out of the thread
PJFS>> and go to a previous or next message,

C>  The CTRL+up and down keys will not expand threads but provided the
C>  threads are expanded they will move you up and down each message in the
C>  thread as they should.
Not exactly what I meant.

PJFS>> I want to read an entire thread while in message mode, as it is
PJFS>> now I have to read your message (this one I am replying to) close
PJFS>> it than use either the arrow key,or high lite the next message in
PJFS>> thread and hit *enter* .

C>  Hmmm. I assume that you are aware that in the view folder or message
C>  mode as you put it, there's a message list for that window which is not
C>  on by default. View -> Message List. This message list operates
C>  independently of the main TB!'s list and is what is being used by the
C>  CTRL+up and down keys.

 I do now thank you, but I like the message screen full with just
 the message, when I'am done I want to hit a key ( or two) to get
 me to the next message without closing the messgae window I'am in
 now.
C>  I find it tedious that the view folders message list doesn't initially
C>  default to reflect the main windows message list for that folder. The
C>  user may alter this if he wishes to but the *initial* list view should
C>  be the same as the main windows is for that folder. This is especially
C>  pertinent for those who use the view folder window without it's message
C>  list enabled.
   I agree.
PJFS>> Being able to * read the next message in thread while in a message
PJFS>> window could / should * be a perfect addition to the message window
PJFS>> option.

C>  You seem to be unaware of the view folder windows own message list.
Yes I was, thank you again, only been using the bat for under a
year, so I'm still getting to know this program, ( I'm still in
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Re: Backing up in order to reformat

[Curtis]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 11:32:52 -0400, Cricket wrote:

C> Wasn't somebody working on a plugin that will backup all of TB! for
C> you? Think back to the days of beta 1.1x - 1.2x.

That was a batch file rather than a plug-in. Someone had written a batch
file to backup the registry keys for TB!. It would take a couple more
lines to also backup the installation directory as well as the mail
directory/s.

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Re[2]: Backing up in order to reformat

[Cricket]

Howdy Batters,

Sunday, August 06, 2000, 1:26:58 AM, you wrote:



NM>> You bet there is. Back up up you MAIL folder (by default, this is
NM>> C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL). After reinstaling, copy it back to
NM>> it's place. Then start TB!, and create account with the same name as
NM>> before. Now select the account and hit Alt+Ctrl+Shift+L to recreate
NM>> folders. Repeat the procedure for every account.

C> Or another way is to back up the mail folder as well as TB!'s
C> installation directory, export the registry key HKCU/Software/RIT. Upon
C> reformatting and reinstalling windows, restore TB!'s directory to the
C> same directory and path it was originally and restore the registry key.
C> It would be as if nothing had been done to TB!. :-)

Wasn't somebody working on a plugin that will backup all of TB! for
you?  Think back to the days of beta 1.1x - 1.2x.

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Re: Filter...again ;-)

[Ming-Li]

Hi Thomas,

ML>> I got curious, too. Just looked it up. It's: Turks and Caicos
ML>> Islands.

> Exactly *where* did you look it up?

http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/websoft/wwwstat/country-codes.txt

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[OFF TOPIC] the .tc

[Frédéric Médery]

hello Thomas,

Sunday, August 06, 2000, 12:02:35 AM, you wrote:

TF> Hallo Frédéric,

TF> On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:32:00 -0400 GMT (06/08/2000, 05:32 +0800 GMT),
TF> Frédéric Médery wrote:

FM>> Sorry if it's confused but i'm not from an english speaking country.

TF> Quebec?

FM>> Official Monkyzers'web site : www.monkyzers.ca.tc

TF> What does ".tc" stand for? I've never seen this before.


I live in Montreal Quebec but I'm Belgian (small french country next
to France).

the .tc ? it's not a real address.
I use a free URL redirection service.
The web site is in my provider's server.
address of the redirection service : http://www.ulimit.com/en/
that way, I can use a smaller address much easier to remember.

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Re: Filter...again ;-)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Ming-Li,

On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 04:01:06 -0700 GMT (06/08/2000, 19:01 +0800 GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:

>> What does ".tc" stand for? I've never seen this before.

ML> I got curious, too. Just looked it up. It's: Turks and Caicos
ML> Islands.

Exactly *where* did you look it up?

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Re[3]: Stupid Question #348

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Joe!

Saturday, August 05, 2000, 2:25:33 AM, you wrote:

> If it hadn't been for my scrollwheel mouse (it scrolled, but there
> were no scroll bars visible when it did), I would have needed to
> start over again, like in the past. After I was finally able to
> scroll up with the scrollwheel mouse, the scroll bars magically
> appeared.

You don't need to start over again, just hit "Page up". The scrollbar
missing *is* a bug to me. If it is not it needs a good explanation.

BTW, have you noticed a difference in the reply message if you reply
from the message window or directly from the inbox? Once you'll have
all the headers in the reply message - another bug to me.


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Re[3]: Filter...again ;-)

[Gerd Ewald]

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Hi Gold,

on Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:27:20 -0700 GMT
your local time, which was 06.08.2000, 02:27:20 (GMT+0200) my local time,
you wrote about "Filter...again ;-)":



WG>> I  think it is possible, Account/Filters/Incoming filter/Alternatives. (I've
WG>> never tried this so far, but I think that's what you need.)

It does work perfectly !!


GG> As an alternative to Alternatives (*g*) you can use the pipe ( | )
GG> character as "OR".

Well, this one sometimes didn't work here (Don't ask me why, I just used the
Alternative method).




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Re: CRC error

[Ming-Li]

Hi Arjan,

> You're  right,  but  when  I wanna install the intpack.exe it
> comes-up with the ERROR "CRC error in file LngPack.exe". To me, it
> looks like a Windows error. But I'm not sure. Someone have a clue?

I've just downloaded it (from both USA site and European site) and
installed it without problem (I installed all the spelling checker,
just to be sure).

I'm almost certain it's not downloaded right, for CRC error means
the integrity of the file is lost.

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Re[2]: CRC error

[Arjan Vergeer]

> Hmmm, I could find no LngPack.exe on RIT's web site. Where did you
> download it? The file for multilingual support (including UI
> translation and additional spellchecker) is intpack.exe.

You're  right,  but  when  I wanna install the intpack.exe it comes-up
with the ERROR "CRC error in file LngPack.exe". To me, it looks like a
Windows error. But I'm not sure. Someone have a clue?

Arjan

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Re: Filter...again ;-)

[Ming-Li]

Hi Thomas,

FM>> Official Monkyzers'web site : www.monkyzers.ca.tc

> What does ".tc" stand for? I've never seen this before.

I got curious, too. Just looked it up. It's: Turks and Caicos
Islands.

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Re: CRC error

[Ming-Li]

Hi Arjan,

> My  first  posting to the group.. help. I've tried to install the
> file LngPack.exe  (spellChecker).  If  I wanna install the file it
> comes-up with  the ERROR: CRC error in file LngPack.exe. What
> could be wrong? I already tried to download it again.. but no
> succes..

Hmmm, I could find no LngPack.exe on RIT's web site. Where did you
download it? The file for multilingual support (including UI
translation and additional spellchecker) is intpack.exe.

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Ming-Li

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CRC error

[Arjan Vergeer]

Hi all,

My  first  posting to the group.. help. I've tried to install the file
LngPack.exe  (spellChecker).  If  I wanna install the file it comes-up
with  the ERROR: CRC error in file LngPack.exe. What could be wrong? I
already tried to download it again.. but no succes..

Arjan

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