Re[2]: Help file
Hi Paula, PF I did not say that I was going to write the english version of the Help PF file. I may have misunderstood a posting (I forget whose) that seemed to imply you would. PF I'd love to help out, but it's a big job and I don't have the PF time. I may have said that I would polish it if that would help, but I PF personally think Help files are better written by professionals and that PF RIT should look into contracting with a professional technical writer. Sure, I agree. A good Help is the single major obstacle to selling the product to mainstream users. -- Best regards, István -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Template question -- replies
Sunday, August 20, 2000, 08:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I occasionally want to reply to the list but select that as I am writing the message. Having set up the reply template to reply to the individual, what do I use as a quick template to change the particular message to go to the list? Hello katsmeow, For that case use this quick template in addition: %TO=""%TO="%OREPLYADDR" And also the converse. I am on a couple of lists where the default is to send messages to the individual. [...] Is there a way to send up a template whereby the replies automatically (or by use of a quick template inserted in the reply) goes only to the list and not the individual? %TO=""%TO="address_of_the_list" -- Best regards, Jürgen -- The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 PGP-Schlüssel auf Anforderung PGP key by request ID: 0xFA35B64B -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Internal Mail for Office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jason, On 18 August 2000 at 09:46:04 GMT -0400 (which was 14:46 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Internal Mail for Office": J Is this possible? It seems so. J I would like to use the bat for an internal mail system, on a J Novell Netware server. I would like the entire office to be able to J use one installed copy of the bat with their own mail being stored J in private directories. This should work. J (a fleeting thought!, how will this work with local delivery? If J the bat cannot get to the other directories?) By using the POP/SMTP server theorised below. J From what I have read, there needs to be one copy of the bat setup J as the server, so this means it needs to be running all the time. J There is no place to do this. There has to a server in this scenario /somewhere/ - if not a TB server then a standard SMTP/POP or IMAP server (bearing in mind that IMAP doesn't /quite/ work as it should for optimum performance). J The G:\ drive is common for everyone, the executable could go J there. The U:\ drive is a mapped drive letter to a personal J directory, this is where the mail directory should be. U:\ maps to J the login name so U:\ is the same no matter which PC you log in fr J name so U:\ is the same no matter which PC you log in from. Nothing wrong with this *except* that the TB settings are held in the registry and you would need a different Windows logon for each user to ensure a keep personalisation for each specific user. Using the U: mapping for the base mail folder will make sure that the mail itself follows each user to their seat. J The only thing I can think of is to install a POP/SMTP server on J the Netware server. Am I right? Yes. I don't know what is available for this. There are plenty for NT. Netware is not my zone. J Also, How would I lock down the settings on the installed copy of J TheBat! at each workstation so I can guarantee that the interface J will be the same no matter where you sit. No can do because of the registry thing. You can put each copy into "administrated" mode using the Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/ keystroke. J Any guidance would be appreciated, Also, one more factor: The J supervisor (using the bat) needs to be able to get mail from the J outside world and forward it to the inside world. :) That could probably done with a (fairly) complex filter set. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOZ+rNjnkJKuSnc2gEQLmWACeLRNVlNg8b1He7QJX/QwvkUSPmq0AoMWu K6qb9T13sYSwNXdCw/N0GNmS =Lw3V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Threading not always correct?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, on Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:54:45 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 19.08.2000, 20:54:45 (GMT+0200) my local time, you wrote about "Threading not always correct?": snip MDP The explanation runs as follows: every message is assigned a unique MDP Id. For instance, the message you just sent has the following id MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] My reply includes the header MDP "In-reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and this Id is also MDP added to the end of the string of Ids in the "References" header. MDP TB uses References and In-reply-To to calculate any message's position MDP in the threading hierarchy. snip FWIW, I would like to add that the In_Reply_To-ID is omitted by some mail clients (like M$ Echange and older M$ Outlook Versions 4.xxx; may be there are more clients). AFAIK this could result in incorrect threading in TB! - - -- Best regards, Gerd Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOZ+cLky/sHrVbGGHEQKX6gCfSbbdY3aaf0h8+3HnsaIJ59YSN4wAoLyn eHyVBq6JbbXsG9+9DZcp35K+ =D5bH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Template question -- replies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi katsmeow, On 20 August 2000 at 01:01:11 GMT -0500 (which was 07:01 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Template question -- replies": The string %TO=""%TO="""%OFROMNAME"" %OFROMADDR" will do the job for you. You can place this in a Quick template (call it "TT" for the sake of this example) to try it out. You can then use %QINCLUDE="TT" in a normal template whenever you want to employ it and never have to re-write it. kinc Thanks now a couple of more. kinc ... what do I use as a quick template to change the particular kinc message to go to the list? Define a Quick Template called TR as follows: %TO=""%TO="""%OREPLYNAME"" %OREPLYADDR" kinc And also the converse. I am on a couple of lists where the kinc default is to send messages to the individual. Of course, I know kinc I can hit reply all and the reply will go to the individual and kinc to the list. Is there a way to send up a template whereby the kinc replies automatically (or by use of a quick template inserted in kinc the reply) goes only to the list and not the individual? Well, by now (if you have followed my instructions) you should be armed with two QTs - TT and TR so, switching is a matter of typing on-the-fly, in the body of the message, TTCtrl+Space to change the "To" to be that of the message originator or TRCtrl+Space to re-redirect the message to the list. Your templates for the basic replies should specify %QINCLUDE="TR" and %QINCLUDE="TT" respectively. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOZ+ztznkJKuSnc2gEQKQ+gCg2TTS/UDzcrqI2ymymGLHCfyExJ4AoIFe Z/HBdl5rbFSxWHs0iJ2A7ORA =XOkt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Threading not always correct?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gerd, On 20 August 2000 at 11:51:57 GMT +0200 (which was 10:51 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Threading not always correct?": MDP TB uses References and In-reply-To to calculate any message's MDP position in the threading hierarchy. GE snip GE FWIW, GE I would like to add that the In_Reply_To-ID is omitted by some GE mail clients (like M$ Echange and older M$ Outlook Versions 4.xxx; GE may be there are more clients). AFAIK this could result in GE incorrect threading in TB! ... not if "References" is there. Many clients do not preserve the References ID chain and use it as the In-reply-To field. TB can still thread correctly using this scant information but it can be more easily confused at a later stage if messages are removed from the middle of the thread. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOZ+3AjnkJKuSnc2gEQJ1zgCgwga0Pd4nI36whjACRsFv8nIv7bAAn1kq xK2PGE9lv+fZmaQAH2665f/J =hT1e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Template question -- replies
Hello Katsmeow, On Saturday, August 19, 2000 at 20:38:29 GMT -0500 (which was 6:38 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hi I posted this the other day and got no replies so will try again with it somewhat reworded in case the query was not clear. I subscribe to a number of mailing lists such as this list where the default is for replies to messages to go to the list address. On a couple of these lists, I never (or very rarely) want my reply to go the list. Instead, I want the replies to go only to the individual who posted the message. Is there any sort of macro I can place in my reply template so that the reply is automatically sent to the individual who posted the message and not to the list? If not (or also), is there any way to insert a quick template in the reply as you are writing it to achieve this same purpose? Marck D. Pearlstone replied to you on Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:45:11 (Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:45:11 +0100) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marck's Message Snippet Hmm. I use Ctrl-F4 to write to the author instead of the originating list. Perhaps it is a matter of getting used to doing that. OTOH there are a number of variants of %REPLYADDR and %OREPLYADDR and %OFRAMADDR that may do what you're looking for. End Marck's Message Snippet So as Marck said, you can use Ctrl-F4 to do exactly what you want, or you can put the following lines into your template. %TO=""%To="%OFROMADDR" The first %To="" will clear the list address from the To line, and the second one puts in the original senders address. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT: Re: How can I skip the CC field when using tab from the TO: field?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Curtis! Saturday, August 19, 2000, 1:08:37 PM, you wrote: - -=A. Curtis Martin=- How come I got all your messages from the past two days double? - -- Using The Bat! 1.45 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 1212 C Dierk Haasis One man is as good as another - until he has written a book. (Benjamin Jowett) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZ/y2vTo1oA8g8dLEQK7OgCfXZ3CJ/vkciHRBMbFqw7Toql6bMQAn0dC Go/TcNNBWpx1aZ/26iM3FzqG =my0z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Use of Quick Templates?
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:47:17 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA Under Options/Quick Templates, I have created a new Template, aptly named NA "PGP", but I don't understand how I can access that QT via the Macro NA entries in my Reply Template. I see no Macro called %QINCLUDE, and if I NA choose "Insert QT", I am asked to select which folder the QT template is NA located, and it seem it has to be in a text format. %QINCLUDE is one of those macros that aren't listed among the macros in the template editor menus. It's however in the help file: QINCLUDE=Quick Template Handle - insert the text generated by the Quick Template with To use your quick template in the reply template use the macro %QINCLUDE="PGP". -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "It is better to be brief than boring. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Duplicate messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, My apologies for the duplicate messages coming in. I was having problems with my messages not reaching the list and after almost a full day of waiting asked Marck to post them for me. Looks as if they are finally coming through now. :-/ - -- - -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Read what I mean, not what I write. " -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Included for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOZ9RhfAXeSHuB5k3EQK/WgCcCUFYc46lpeJ07WhUsQXa6LV/uPwAoOjF GoPxybuALcHKgz+nXlCKtoUo =VpjR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Internal Mail for Office
Hello Marck, On Sunday, August 20, 2000 at 10:56:06 GMT +0100 (which was 2:56 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: J Also, How would I lock down the settings on the installed copy of J TheBat! at each workstation so I can guarantee that the interface J will be the same no matter where you sit. No can do because of the registry thing. You can put each copy into "administrated" mode using the Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/ keystroke. Does the Netware system have a log on script? How about a log off script? I was thinking that if you do have these capabilities, just have your log off script copy the Registry keys into a reg file stored in the user's mail directory. Then when they log on, have that reg file incorporated into the current workstations registry. I don't know if this would work in practice, but it might be worth a shot. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editor and address book
Hi Allie, On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, 03:41:13 your time (GMT -0500), you wrote to the list: ACM On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:14:50 +0400, Drunin wrote: D replying to the person, I decided to modify this person' reply D template. I was not able to do this through the address book icon on D the right of the To field. Is it supposed to be used only for adding D message recipients from the address book and not for editing address D book entries? ACM That's right. --snip--- Rest of message --snip--- Any idea why I should get two copies of this message? I've noticed others from you are also sometimes duplicated. The messages appear identical but their files sizes are slightly different. -- Sincerely, Jack LaRosamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alabama, USA Message created 10:32:32 PM (GMT-6) on Sunday, August 20, 2000 = Using The Bat! ver. 1.45 (reg) under Windows 98 ver.4.10 build Service Pack A = -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editor and address book
Hello Jack, On Sunday, August 20, 2000 at 22:36:04 GMT -0500 (which was 8:36 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Any idea why I should get two copies of this message? Allie (aka Curtis) posted a message about this earlier this evening. For some reason, some people (including me) are having trouble posting to the list. So Curtis (aka Allie) asked another moderator to post his messages for him. The message sizes are probably different because of differences in the routing. I've noticed others from you are also sometimes duplicated. That's when the "Folder - Kill Dupes" option works best. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
