Re: Regex Help

2001-01-12 Thread Manfred Ell

On 12-01-2001 at 18:00:27GMT -0800 (which was 2:00 where I live)
Januk Aggarwal wrote regarding the subject of "Regex Help"


Hello Januk,

ME It outputs "" (meaning nothing) here.

Januk Did you use cut and paste to put it into your QT?  If not, did you
That's what I did. I copied it 100% into my test QT.

Januk accidentally use %REGEXPBLINDMATCH instead of %REGEXPMATCH?  Are all
Januk the quotation marks correct?
Yep.

Januk I cut and pasted this one into a QT, and this is the output: 20010111

Januk What is the output of the %ODATESHORT macro on your system?  If it is
Januk not digits separated by '/', the regexp will fail.
12-01-2001
Separator different, so this is it.
Changing the regexp results: 20010112

Perhaps you could change the regexp to be generic regardles of the
separator (/ in the US, DE etc, - in PT and perhaps there are others)

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Deleting HTML attachment

2001-01-12 Thread Assad Toorab

Hello All,

Does anyone know how I could automate the deletion of HTML attachment?
I  was thinking of using the external filter rule to delete email with
HTML  attachments  but  I don't know how I should input the command to
automate the process... Anyone?

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S/MIME signature

2001-01-12 Thread xrf

Hi everybody,

I just get a personal certificate from thawte. I installed it into the bat.

The problem is:

when I encrypt and sign a message to myself, the message appear to be a .p7=
m attachment,=20
and can be decrypted and verified.

BUT when I ONLY SIGN a message, it will have an .p7s attachment, I can't ge=
t the=20
signature verified. It is opened by my default editor (vim) when clicked.

Please help me: is this a bug in TB? or something wrong with my operation o=
r my system??

Thanks to all of you!



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=E7=C4=D4=A1=A2=BD=F0=C9=BD=C8=ED=BC=FE=B4=F3=BD=B1=B5=C8=D7=C5=C4=FA...htt=
p://www.xoyo.com/others/jifen.asp
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Wrap Text

2001-01-12 Thread Shanmugam Ganeshkumar

Dear Batters,

Sure this would be been discussed before, in that case please excuse
me for reviving it again.

When ever I cut and paste some paragraphs from Word, it gets copied
to the message editor as single line, though I have revoked Auto-Wrap
option. Only way that I could format it is use Alt+L, I don't want to
do that all the time.

Does anyone know how to solve this problem, any potential solutions
for this?


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Re: Wrap Text

2001-01-12 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Shanmugam,

On 12 January 2001 at 18:52:02 +0700 (which was 11:52 where I
live) Shanmugam Ganeshkumar wrote and made these points:

SG When ever I cut and paste some paragraphs from Word, it gets copied
SG to the message editor as single line, though I have revoked Auto-Wrap
SG option. Only way that I could format it is use Alt+L, I don't want to
SG do that all the time.

SG Does anyone know how to solve this problem, any potential solutions
SG for this?

Version  1.49  (which  I  see  you  are using) introduced the "Paste
formatted"  function  which  does  *exactly* what you're asking for.
It's in the edit menu and has a shortcut of Ctrl-Shft-Ins.

HTH

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Re: S/MIME signature

2001-01-12 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi xrf,

On 12 January 2001 at 18:50:47 +0800 (CST) (which was 10:50 where I
live) xrf wrote and made these points:

x I just get a personal certificate from thawte. I installed it into the bat.

x The problem is:

x when I encrypt and sign a message to myself, the message appear to be a .p7=
x m attachment,=20
x and can be decrypted and verified.

x BUT when I ONLY SIGN a message, it will have an .p7s attachment, I can't ge=
x t the=20
x signature verified. It is opened by my default editor (vim) when clicked.

x Please help me: is this a bug in TB? or something wrong with my operation o=
x r my system??

x Thanks to all of you!

This  is  a symptom of using an old version of The Bat! or not using
TB  at all. You don't provide any X-Mailer header nor any details of
which  mailer  you  are  using.  Without  this  information  it  is
practically impossible to help you.

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TB! v1.49 - ABxxxPPP in Quotestyle

2001-01-12 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello BatListers,

   It would seem logical to me that the RegExp
   %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"'
   would work as a quotestyle as well as a greeting but that
   doesn't seem to be the case for me.

   It successfully returns the handle or the first name but not
   the FromFName in the event there is no AB entry.

   Can someone help me out with this?

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Re[2]: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread George F Schoelles

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Hello Thomas,

Thursday, January 11, 2001, 8:10:00 PM, you wrote:

ML What's the problem? You can't move folders around with alt+dragging?

GFS Correct, no key + mouse operation will work,

TF I undersatand this to mean: no (key + mouse) operation, rather than:
TF (no key) + mouse operation...

TF This is odd. Do these combos work in other applications?


Yes to both statements.  It will move a folder up and down the tree
(of little use), but not from one tree to another, nor from trunk to
branch or branch to branch.

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MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread Gerry Doyon

Hello Everyone!

It is my understanding that I can "communicate with TB!
programmatically by calling MAPI functions using "TBMAPI.DLL".

Does anyone have any knowledge as to what calls have been exposed and
what their calling convention is?

My goal is to be able to "feed" TB! messages to send without having to
run TB! with command line options to create/send this message for EACH
message I want to send.

In other words, another application will be created the a message in
text and I want to be able to read this text file in and feed it to
TB!

Is there a better way to do this?  This is not a mass mailing sort of
thing where the text of each message is the same.  Each message will
be completely different and go to different people.

Thanks!

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Re: TB! v1.49 - ABxxxPPP in Quotestyle

2001-01-12 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:44:27 -0500, Jan wrote these words of wisdom:

JR It would seem logical to me that the RegExp
JR %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"' would work as a
JR quotestyle as well as a greeting but that doesn't seem to be the
JR case for me.

The macro works for me with the TBUDL/TBBETA lists and elsewhere so I
strongly suspect that it's a problem with the macro's syntax when
you're using it.

Are you using the macro recursively? If so, you have to alter those
quotation marks.

For example, for the %quotestyle macro, you'd have to do something
like:

%Quotestyle="=%ABofromHANDLE=""%ABofromFIRSTNAME=%OFROMFNAME"

or

%Quotestyle='=%ABofromHANDLE="%ABofromFIRSTNAME=""%OFROMFNAME""'


If you're recursively using it within say the %Wrapped macro or any
other macro then you need to use it in this format:

%Wrapped="%ABofromHANDLE=""%ABofromFIRSTNAME=%OFROMFNAME"

or

%Wrapped='%ABofromHANDLE="%ABofromFIRSTNAME=""%OFROMFNAME""'


Here's a sample introductory template:

template

%Wrapped='On %ODOW, %ODATE,
%ABofromHANDLE="%ABofromFIRSTNAME=""%OFROMFNAME"" wrote these
comments:'

/template

The above should be as a single line but the syntax for the included
%Ab macro is really what counts.

Hope that helps. If not, I'll be away for a couple days so I hope
someone else can continue this.

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Re: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread George F Schoelles

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Hello Gerry,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 5:33:58 AM, you wrote:

GD Hello Everyone!

GD It is my understanding that I can "communicate with TB!
GD programmatically by calling MAPI functions using "TBMAPI.DLL".

GD Does anyone have any knowledge as to what calls have been exposed and
GD what their calling convention is?

GD My goal is to be able to "feed" TB! messages to send without having to
GD run TB! with command line options to create/send this message for EACH
GD message I want to send.

GD In other words, another application will be created the a message in
GD text and I want to be able to read this text file in and feed it to
GD TB!

GD Is there a better way to do this?  This is not a mass mailing sort of
GD thing where the text of each message is the same.  Each message will
GD be completely different and go to different people.

GD Thanks!


1   TB must be open for mapi to work as with ant mapi mail client.

2   It sounds like you need a simple smtp utility like the one I
found from http://www.olegsoft.agava.ru .

Hope that helps.

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Mails from TB to Outlook 2000

2001-01-12 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello,

  How is possible to move mails from TB to Outlook 2000? BTW I don't
  want to use this program, it is for one user :-)))

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Re: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread A . Curtis Martin

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:50:39 -0800, George contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

GFS 1 TB must be open for mapi to work as with ant mapi mail client.

Are you sure about this? I just did an MAPI call with TextPad which
launched TB! and opened a new message. Or am I misunderstanding you?

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Re: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread Gerry Doyon

Hello George

Friday, January 12, 2001, 8:50:39 AM, you wrote:

GFS 1   TB must be open for mapi to work as with ant mapi mail client.

I understand.

GFS 2   It sounds like you need a simple smtp utility like the one I
GFS found from http://www.olegsoft.agava.ru .

Thanks.  I will look in to that!

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Re[2]: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread George F Schoelles

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Hello A,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 5:57:26 AM, you wrote:

GFS 1 TB must be open for mapi to work as with ant mapi mail client.

ACM Are you sure about this? I just did an MAPI call with TextPad which
ACM launched TB! and opened a new message. Or am I misunderstanding you?

It launched TB which is open, right?  And it was my understanding you
did not want to open TB, hence my suggestion.

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Re[3]: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread Gerry Doyon

Hi George,

You might be confusing me with the response from A. Curtis Martin. :-)

Friday, January 12, 2001, 9:07:17 AM, you wrote:

ACM Are you sure about this? I just did an MAPI call with TextPad which
ACM launched TB! and opened a new message. Or am I misunderstanding you?

GFS It launched TB which is open, right?  And it was my understanding you
GFS did not want to open TB, hence my suggestion.

I personally don't mind having TB! already open.

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Re[4]: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread George F Schoelles

Hello Gerry,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 6:12:24 AM, you wrote:

GFS It launched TB which is open, right?  And it was my understanding you
GFS did not want to open TB, hence my suggestion.

GD I personally don't mind having TB! already open.

Ooops sorry ~;-|

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Re: Mails from TB to Outlook 2000

2001-01-12 Thread Kevin Tea

Hi  Marek 

 BTW I don't
   want to use this program, it is for one user :-)))

Yeah, they all say that g!


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Re[2]: Mails from TB to Outlook 2000

2001-01-12 Thread Gerry Doyon

Hi Kevin,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 9:32:27 AM, you wrote:

KT Hi  Marek 

 BTW I don't
   want to use this program, it is for one user :-)))

KT Yeah, they all say that g!

Hahahahahahahaha!


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Re: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo George,

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:18:32 -0800 GMT (12/01/2001, 21:18 +0800 GMT),
George F Schoelles wrote:

GFS Correct, no key + mouse operation will work,

TF I undersatand this to mean: no (key + mouse) operation, rather than:
TF (no key) + mouse operation...

TF This is odd. Do these combos work in other applications?

George Yes to both statements.  It will move a folder up and down the tree
George (of little use), but not from one tree to another, nor from trunk to
George branch or branch to branch.

Wait... alt+mouse is supposed to move the folder only up and down the
folder tree.

To make the folder a subfolder of another folder, another combo is
needed - which alludes me at the moment. Can somebody else help out?

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Re: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hello Olivier and other TBUDL's,

On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 00:03:12 GMT +0100 Olivier Reubens wrote on "Multiple 
email everything.":

OR 1) If I have received an e-mail into one of the mailboxes of an
OR account which ISP I'm not connected to at the moment, I CAN
OR retrieve the mail, but when replying it'll fail (relaying denied).
OR I can solve this from the mail-edit window via Options, Active
OR account, but I need to change it for each message.  Is there a way
OR to "lock" which account to use for sending messages.  I don't mind
OR the originating address to mismatch the "from" address which they
OR will reply to.  Most aren't smart enough to figure out how to
OR obtain the real originating address anyway :-)

I've finally managed to read my way through the complete thread, but I
still don't understand why you can't use the SMTP-server of one of the
web-mail providers offering SMTP-by-login and then

1) set up TB with only *one* account

or

2) set up TB with just as many account as *you* want (not as many as
the amount of your ISP's dictate!) and then use only this *one*
SMTP-server for your account.

Both of these solutions would allow you to send from *one* SMTP-server
no matter where you were connected, and would thus save you the
trouble of

1) Changing smtp-servers when changing connection

2) Setting up filters, columns etc. for more than *one* account!


Have I missed something?! If I haven't - and this looks like a
solution for you - , you could use the SMTP-server of
webmail-providers like www.myrealbox.com , www.gmx.net , www.yahoo.com
or  www.operamail.com .

Since all of these services also offer POP/IMAP-retrieval from TB, you
can collect all your mail-traffic on one of these accounts, and, thus,
enjoy the additional bonus of being able to read all your mail where
ever you have access to the web - not just on your TB-PC!


Best regards,

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Re: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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ACM Are you sure about this? I just did an MAPI call with TextPad
ACM which launched TB! and opened a new message. Or am I
ACM misunderstanding you?

GFS It launched TB which is open, right?  And it was my understanding
GFS you did not want to open TB, hence my suggestion.

Actually, my concern is the reverse. I almost always have TB! open but
in the event that I don't, I wish for the MAPI call to open the TB!
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Re[2]: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread George F Schoelles

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Hello Thomas,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 6:24:48 AM, you wrote:

TF Wait... alt+mouse is supposed to move the folder only up and down the
TF folder tree.

TF To make the folder a subfolder of another folder, another combo is
TF needed - which alludes me at the moment. Can somebody else help out?

Beats me why you would want to just move a folder up and down the tree
trunk, but someone must have needed it I guess.

Thanks 4 trying to help.

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Re: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo George,

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:56:44 -0800 GMT (12/01/2001, 22:56 +0800 GMT),
George F Schoelles wrote:

George Beats me why you would want to just move a folder up and down the tree
George trunk, but someone must have needed it I guess.

Yeah, I like my folders in the order I like. When you create a folder,
it is always added at the bottom. But I want it more to the top, at
least before the Trash folder. Just my taste.

George Thanks 4 trying to help.

Welcome. Someone will come up with who to move a folder into anotehr
folder as a subfolder. I think it was crtl+mouse, or shft-crtl+mouse
or so, try it out.

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Re[2]: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Thomas,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 10:26:36 AM, you wrote:

TF Welcome. Someone will come up with who to move a folder into anotehr
TF folder as a subfolder. I think it was crtl+mouse, or shft-crtl+mouse
TF or so, try it out.

I just tried creating a new folder then moving it.  I was able to
Alt+Drag it from the top level to another level in the tree, and to
another account with no problem!

Maybe I am missing something here...

The only problem I have seen is trying to Alt+Drag and drop it *into*
another folder so it is the *first* sub-folder there.  I got around
that by creating a junk folder, moving my folder in, then delete the
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Re: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread Elden Fenison

George,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 6:56:44 AM, George F Schoelles wrote:

GFS Beats me why you would want to just move a folder up and
GFS down the tree trunk, but someone must have needed it I
GFS guess.

Well, I was very happy to learn that I could do that here.
Basically lets me sort my folders any way I want.


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Re: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread Juergen Frisch

Hello Tim,

   on Friday, January 12, 2001, 16:49, you wrote:

 The only problem I have seen is trying to Alt+Drag and drop it *into*
 another folder so it is the *first* sub-folder there.  I got around
 that by creating a junk folder, moving my folder in, then delete the
 junk folder.

   [Ctrl]+[Alt]+Drag

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Re: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Tim,

On 12 January 2001 at 10:49:30 -0500 (which was 15:49 where I
live) Tim Musson wrote and made these points:

TM Maybe I am missing something here...

You are ;-) - *Ctrl*-Alt-Drag.

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Re: Deleting HTML attachment

2001-01-12 Thread Lars Erik Bryld

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AT delete  email  with HTML attachments but I don't know how I should
AT input the command to automate the process... Anyone?

I  believe  it is presently impossible (at least it appeared so when I
asked  the  same question myself. I tried changing the setting to have
attachments  be stored in a separate folder, but HTML-attachments seem
to be treated differently from normal ones.

I haven't gotten around to put in on the official wish list yet.



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Re[2]: Moving Folders

2001-01-12 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 11:08:25 AM, you wrote:

TM Maybe I am missing something here...

MDP You are ;-) - *Ctrl*-Alt-Drag.

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Flags

2001-01-12 Thread syv

Hi TBUDL,


What are the flags for?


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Re: RexEx Tutorial, where ?

2001-01-12 Thread Marcel

Hi Stefano,

On Thursday, January 11, 2001, Stefano Zamprogno wrote:

SZ   As subj say, where can i find a tutorial-manual about that ?
SZ   Thanks.

You can request the tutorial that Nick mentioned from my computer in
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Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Tim Musson

Hey TBUDL,

  I believe it is templates any way...

  I am subscribed to a list that when I do a reply, the To: field is
  populated with the senders address, not the list address.  How do I
  create a template (if not template, how?) to put the correct address
  in the To: field.  

  Here is some of the RFC 822 headers from an example message;
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:26:03 -0500
Reply-To: Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: Mailing List For Keeshond Fanciers  
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From: Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  [KEESHOND-L] Looking for puppy in the next year
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looks like I need to read the To: field, and put that into *my* new
To: field...  Seems like a messed up list server if you ask me. :-(

Another one, Most of my lists/correspondence I want my reply comments
above the quoted text, but in this list (and a couple others) I want
it below as TB defaults.  How do I change it for a particular list (I
do have each list filtered to it's own folder, so I think that should
help)?

TIA!
  
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Re: Template questions? #2

2001-01-12 Thread Tim Musson

I just remembered another question I wanted to ask.

Is it possible to go to my TBUDL folder, then pick a new message and
have it come up already addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

TIA! again...

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Re: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Tony Boom

This message: 12/01/2001 18:27 GMT.

Hello Tim,


  A reminder of what Tim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on:
  12 January 2001 at 13:12:53 GMT -0500

TM How do I create a template (if not template, how?) to put the correct
TM address in the To: field.

  In the address book entry for the list, the reply template:

  %TO=""%TO="%OFROMFNAME  [EMAIL PROTECTED] .list"
  

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Re: Flags

2001-01-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo syv,

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:21:37 -0800 GMT (13/01/2001, 01:21 +0800 GMT),
syv wrote:

syv What are the flags for?

Whatver you want them to be for. Here, I "flag" messages that I still
want to reply to. Everybody his his own usage. :-)

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Re: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Tony,

On 12 January 2001 at 18:29:02 + (which was 18:29 where I
live) Tony Boom wrote and made these points:

TM How do I create a template (if not template, how?) to put the correct
TM address in the To: field.

TB   In the address book entry for the list, the reply template:

TB %TO=""%TO="%OFROMFNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] .list"

or, better still (to avoid causing offence)

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Re: Template questions? #2

2001-01-12 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Tim,

On 12 January 2001 at 13:17:57 -0500 (which was 18:17 where I
live) Tim Musson wrote and made these points:

TM I just remembered another question I wanted to ask.

TM Is it possible to go to my TBUDL folder, then pick a new message
TM and have it come up already addressed to
TM [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

Yes, but beware!

Right click your TBUDL folder, choose properties and define a new
message template which includes the macro
%TO=""%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

I  say  beware,  because  I  have  a  particular  dislike for folder
templates,  which  can  kick  in  when  you  didn't  mean them to by
forgetting which folder had the focus when you needed to write a new
message.

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Re: Template questions? #2

2001-01-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Tim,

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:17:57 -0500 GMT (13/01/2001, 02:17 +0800 GMT),
Tim Musson wrote:

Tim I just remembered another question I wanted to ask.

Shoot.

Tim Is it possible to go to my TBUDL folder, then pick a new message and
Tim have it come up already addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

Same again. Folder-level template; but  be careful. I myself have an
address book level template for TBUDL. That means, when I send a new
message to TBUDL, I have to choose the address from the address book.
OTOH I mostly reply and don't have the problem any more of sending
something mistakenly to the list.

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Re[2]: Palm Support?

2001-01-12 Thread Serge Skorokhodov

Hello Fred,

Thursday, January 04, 2001, 6:03:03 AM, you wrote:

 One question: Is there any support available to synchronize E-Mails
 from The Bat with my Palm PDA? And if not, is support planned for the
 future?

FW As a long-time TheBat user, and a fairly recent Palm IIIxe user, I'm
FW following this public thread.  In the hopes that someone contacts you
FW off-list with the specifics, I'm wondering if you'd be so kind as to either
FW post it publicly to the list, or privately to me.

FW Thanks, and good luck to us all.

That's how I did it.

TheBat! must be chosen as the default mail client in Control
Center\Internet applet and Windows is better rebooted after that.

HotSynch Manager is set up as Eudora etc. (I guess MS Outlook or MS
Exchange or any other MAPI Client will do as well).

I created a special account named "To Palm" in TheBat! and add an incoming mail filter
for sender "[.]" with regular expression support. The filter creates a
copy of each incoming message in the Inbox of "To Palm" account.

A similar filter moves all msgs from '//To Palm/Outbox' to an outbox
of a working account for real sendmail. I believe that the same effect
can be obtained with proper 'To Palm' configuration though.

This is the "[MAIL]" section of file 'synch.ini' in my Palm user
directory.

 [Mail]
 System=Eudora 3.0.3 or higher
 Interface=MAPI32
 Profile=To Palm
 UserAccount=To Palm
 PostOffice=To Palm
 Gateway=
 Password=

Please note that some (I don't remember exactly which ones) of
'Profile', 'UserAccount' and 'PostOffice' values were entered manually
into 'synch.ini' file as Palm Mail SetUp didn't do that itself.

Now it does work but a little bit slow :-(

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Re: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Tim,

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:12:53 -0500 GMT (13/01/2001, 02:12 +0800 GMT),
Tim Musson wrote:

Tim   I am subscribed to a list that when I do a reply, the To: field is
Tim   populated with the senders address, not the list address.  How do I
Tim   create a template (if not template, how?) to put the correct address
Tim   in the To: field.  

Tim To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tim Looks like I need to read the To: field, and put that into *my* new
Tim To: field...  Seems like a messed up list server if you ask me. :-(

Create a folder template that contains %TO=""%TO=%OTOAddr, or
%TO=""%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (or whatever the lsit
address is) - this will send all message you create while in this
folder to that list.

(Remark: be careful with folder-level templates when you send anything
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Re[2]: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 1:47:47 PM, you wrote:

TM How do I create a template (if not template, how?) to put the correct
TM address in the To: field.

TB   In the address book entry for the list, the reply template:

TB %TO=""%TO="%OFROMFNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] .list"

MDP or, better still (to avoid causing offence)

MDP %TO=""%TO="%OFROMFNAME on listname [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

I think I did what was suggested, but it did not work.  Lets see if I
got it right...

Create an address book entry for the List address.
On the reply tab I put the following in the Template;
%TO=""%TO="%OFROMFNAME on listname [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Now, I go to a message I sent to the list and pick reply, and it is
addressed back To: the author (me) at Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
the list as it needs to be.  The problem I see is the only place the
correct reply to address for the list is is the RFC 822 "Sender:" and
"To:" fields.  The authors address is in the "Reply-To:" and "From:"
fields.

Reply-To: Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: Mailing List For Keeshond Fanciers  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  [KEESHOND-L] Looking for puppy in the next year
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Tim,

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:09:04 -0500 GMT (13/01/2001, 03:09 +0800 GMT),
Tim Musson wrote:


Tim Reply-To: Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

this is the address book item the message will go to.

Tim To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's why I suggested %TO=""%TO=%OTOAddr
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Re[2]: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Thomas,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 1:46:03 PM, you wrote:


TF Create a folder template that contains %TO=""%TO=%OTOAddr, or
TF %TO=""%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (or whatever the lsit
TF address is) - this will send all message you create while in this
TF folder to that list.

TF (Remark: be careful with folder-level templates when you send anything
TF else from that folder.)

That was what I needed (%To=""%To="%OToAddr"), note you left out the
qotes on the second %To=, but I noticed and it works well now!  Thanks

And I will pay attention to the Folder-level template, possibly fix my
problem per another thread...


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Re[3]: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Tim,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 2:09:04 PM, you wrote:

TM How do I create a template (if not template, how?) to put the correct
TM address in the To: field.

TB   In the address book entry for the list, the reply template:

TB %TO=""%TO="%OFROMFNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] .list"

TM Reply-To: Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TM Sender: Mailing List For Keeshond Fanciers  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TM From: Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TM Subject:  [KEESHOND-L] Looking for puppy in the next year
TM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I put in the address book template;  %To=""%To="%OToAddr"
and it now does what I want!

Thanks all!

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Re: Template questions?

2001-01-12 Thread Mike Harlos

Hi Tim,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 1:09:04 PM, Tim Musson on TBUDL wrote:

 Create an address book entry for the List address.
 On the reply tab I put the following in the Template;
 %TO=""%TO="%OFROMFNAME on listname [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Here's what I have in the address books reply template for the "To"
parameter; it seems to work:

%TO=""%TO="%OFROMNAME on TBUDL[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

You could use %OFROMFNAME to use the first name only

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Re[2]: Template questions? #2

2001-01-12 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hi Marck,

  On Friday, January 12, 2001 18:46:33 + you wrote the
  following in regards to "Template questions? #2":

Marck [...] I  have  a  particular  dislike for folder
Marck templates,  which  can  kick  in  when  you  didn't  mean them to by
Marck forgetting which folder had the focus when you needed to write a new
Marck message. [...]

  Marck, something I don't understand: if TB!'s precedence is AB,
  GROUP, FOLDER, wouldn't TB! look for the address info in that
  order? Meaning: If you were starting a new msg, wouldn't TB!
  look first in the AB, then the the group  finally the folder
  for the rest of a template after you enter the "TO" address
  manually or off the AB or new msg menu no matter where your
  focus was?

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VIMRegEx

2001-01-12 Thread Manfred Ell

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The Bat! is available through an amazon.de zShop

2001-01-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Fellow German readers,

from now on, The Bat! is available through an amazon.de zShop. You can
access the shop via our page www.thebat.de - Registrierung, and then
clicking on the amazon.de-Button. We really do hope to make ordering
more convenient for you with this new option.

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Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Nick Danger

Hi Januk,

  That regex string you created for me yesterday:

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Worked great yesterday, but today it's putting out:  20010121 instead
of: 20010112

I'm guessing something is swapping the date numbers and since
yesterday was 11 it didn't show up.

Is this something easy to fix?

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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Manfred Ell

On 12-01-2001 at 14:31:37GMT -0600 (which was 20:31 where I live)
Nick Danger wrote regarding the subject of "Januk - Regex bug?"


Hello Nick,

Nick   That regex string you created for me yesterday:

Nick 
%SETPATTREGEXP="\d{8}"%REGEXPMATCH="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(\d*)/(\d*)/(\d*)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%DATESHORT""%SUBPATT=""3""%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""0%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"""

Nick Worked great yesterday, but today it's putting out:  20010121 instead
Nick of: 20010112


Shows up as 20010112 here.

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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread SyP

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Hello Nick,

You wrote on 1/12/2001, 9:31 PM:

Nick Worked great yesterday, but today it's putting out:  20010121
instead
Nick of: 20010112

Nick I'm guessing something is swapping the date numbers and since
Nick yesterday was 11 it didn't show up.

Not that I could help, just want to point out that it will have
problems with one-digit day numbers (for example 1/3/2001) too.

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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Januk - Regex bug?
   From: Manfred Ell
  Dated:  Fri, 12 Jan 2001, 21:08:15 (3:08:15 PM Local)

Hi Manfred,

Nick Worked great yesterday, but today it's putting out:  20010121 instead
Nick of: 20010112

M Shows up as 20010112 here.

Wow, how odd is that?  Now what kind of strangeness could be at play
with something like that?

(Yes, I've checked my computer date already and it is indeed 1/12/01
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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Januk - Regex bug?
   From: Nick Danger
  Dated:  Fri, 12 Jan 2001, 14:31:37 (2:31:37 PM Local)

N Worked great yesterday, but today it's putting out:  20010121 instead
N of: 20010112

I played with local date and found something even more weird.  I
changed my computer date to Jan. 24, 2001

%DATESHORT reports: 1/24/2001 (as it should)

The regex reports: 20010241

So it's not swapping the day numbers, it's inserting them into the
month it looks like.

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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Manfred Ell

On 12-01-2001 at 15:25:14GMT -0600 (which was 21:25 where I live)
Nick Danger wrote regarding the subject of "Januk - Regex bug?"


Hello Nick,

Nick Wow, how odd is that?  Now what kind of strangeness could be at play
Nick with something like that?


I have the date display set to international dd-mm-yy, perhaps that's
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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Januk - Regex bug?
   From: Manfred Ell
  Dated:  Fri, 12 Jan 2001, 21:40:00 (3:40:00 PM Local)

Hi Manfred,

M I have the date display set to international dd-mm-yy, perhaps that's
M it.

BINGO!!  I played with my date settings and it's working perfect
again.
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Re: Template questions? #2

2001-01-12 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

On 12 January 2001 at 14:23:50 -0500 (which was 19:23 where I
live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points:

Marck [...]  I  have  a  particular  dislike for folder templates,
Marck which can kick in when you didn't mean them to by forgetting
Marck which  folder  had  the focus when you needed to write a new
Marck message. [...]

JR Marck, something I don't understand: if TB!'s precedence is AB,
JR GROUP, FOLDER, wouldn't TB! look for the address info in that
JR order? Meaning: If you were starting a new msg, wouldn't TB!
JR look first in the AB, then the the group  finally the folder
JR for the rest of a template after you enter the "TO" address
JR manually or off the AB or new msg menu no matter where your
JR focus was?

That's  absolutely right. My words of warning are for a newcomer who
is  just developing their templates and hasn't evolved a set for the
AB. I have *no* folder templates myself, only AB ones.

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Re[2]: Template questions? #2

2001-01-12 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hi Marck,

  On Friday, January 12, 2001 22:23:03 + you wrote the
  following in regards to "Template questions? #2":

Marck That's  absolutely right.

  Gads, I've actually learned a BatConcept. Whew. Now if I could
  just break thru those regexp(s)

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Read message filter - when it runs

2001-01-12 Thread ANTilic


HI,

  I was wondering when does the read message filter executes... I
  wanted to clean up some messages after they being read but don't seem
  to have luck...

  So the question is when or even does The Bat! run read message
  filters... I tried to exit program, change mailbox but messages
  still stay...

  The filter is correctly set-up because the same works in the
  incoming messages filter...

 All the best in this millennia...
 Bye!

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Re: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread Olivier Reubens

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:51:47 +0100, you wrote:

I've finally managed to read my way through the complete thread, but I
still don't understand why you can't use the SMTP-server of one of the
web-mail providers offering SMTP-by-login and then

1) set up TB with only *one* account
I need to be able to distinguish OUTGOING mailboxes. 
When customers write to say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a reply is sent
by me or my colleagues, it should have [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the
"from" so when customers in turn reply, it nicely arrives in the
support inbox again and so on.
Same for info@... sales@... and several others.

I need this for multiple domains, which are (unfortunately) hosted at
different ISP's.  This is a cost issue.  I'm currently using a
somewhat awkward setup of different ISP's and stuff, but I'm paying
less than a third of what the cheapest single ISP could offer. (if
they COULD offer each of the items I need in the first place).  In US
currency, the total budget I'm paying NOW for all our internet
requirements is a 4 figure sum aching to a 5 figure one each year.
Paying 3 times as much is TOO much.

To make matters worse, I need to be able to do all this from various
places. Connecting to the server of a different ISP depending on where
I'm connecting from.

And I'm changing locations at least 3 times a day. (can you see me
changing account info for 6-7 accounts, 3+ times a day)... sigh. it's
depressing...

2) set up TB with just as many account as *you* want (not as many as
the amount of your ISP's dictate!) and then use only this *one*
SMTP-server for your account.
The ISP's don't dictate it, I'm dictating it onto myself because I
have no viable alternative.  If I really really could, I'd have an
in-house server (or servers) taking care of everything we need, but
alas, that WOULDd cost a hefty 5 figure sum.

Both of these solutions would allow you to send from *one* SMTP-server
no matter where you were connected, and would thus save you the
trouble of
I have at current not found an SMTP server which I can access, from
wherever I connected from (i.e. whatever ISP's I'm using). and send
the mails through with any of 20 or so different "FROM" addresses
(which include several different domains, most of which are ".be"
domains).
If you know of any, It'd probably solve most of my problems.

1) Changing smtp-servers when changing connection
I'm currently _STILL_ using Forte Agent because that one allows me to
automatically set the SMTP servers depending on what account I used to
make the connection with.  The bad news with Forte is that I need to
launch an instance for each account. That alone fills up the entire
taskbar, takes a lot of switching windows, making it less than optimal
to work, and a real hassle if I need to move/copy a mail to another
account.

2) Setting up filters, columns etc. for more than *one* account!
I can set the filters to distribute incoming mail into separate
inboxes (the way I'd like it anyway) and automatically set the "from"
address.  However, at current with TheBat!  I would need to manually
change the "Account" for each mail I'm sending.  
I need "instant" send (so can't save up, call the provider and send
mail in batch).  And I'm doing several handfulls of mails a day (all
accounts mixed).

Have I missed something?! If I haven't - and this looks like a
solution for you - , you could use the SMTP-server of
webmail-providers like www.myrealbox.com , www.gmx.net , www.yahoo.com
or  www.operamail.com .
I'll check them and see if they allow me to SMTP send using the
from-addresses I need.

Since all of these services also offer POP/IMAP-retrieval from TB, you
can collect all your mail-traffic on one of these accounts, and, thus,
enjoy the additional bonus of being able to read all your mail where
ever you have access to the web - not just on your TB-PC!
GETTING the mail isn't a problem.  All of the ISP's I have mailboxes
at allow me to get pop access and retrieve the mail in the mailboxes,
but I can't SEND mail through an account which ISP I'm not directly
dialed into.
And doing this from multiple PC's isn't a problem either.

Olivier Reubens.
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Re: Read message filter - when it runs

2001-01-12 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi ANTilic,

On 13 January 2001 at 02:14:12 +0100 (which was 01:14 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

Ayc   So the question is when or even does The Bat! run read message
Ayc   filters... I tried to exit program, change mailbox but messages
Ayc   still stay...

Read message filters kick off at the moment a message status changes
from unread to read.

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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Nick,

ND = Nick Danger 

On  Fri, 12 Jan 2001  at  14:31:37 GMT -0600 (which was 12:31 PM where
I live) witnesses say Nick Danger typed:

ND   That regex string you created for me yesterday:

ND 
%SETPATTREGEXP="\d{8}"%REGEXPMATCH="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(\d*)/(\d*)/(\d*)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%DATESHORT""%SUBPATT=""3""%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""0%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"""

ND Worked great yesterday, but today it's putting out:  20010121 instead
ND of: 20010112

ND I'm guessing something is swapping the date numbers and since
ND yesterday was 11 it didn't show up.

You're probably right.  I know you've solved the problem externally,
but you will have problems in February for the reason stated by SyP.

The regexp is pretty dumb in terms of what it does, so small typos or
variations will look very odd.  I think the problem is with the string
the inner regexp creates for the outer regexp.

So let me explain what happens, then you can tweak the regexp to suit
your needs exactly.

part of regexp
%SETPATTREGEXP=""(\d*)/(\d*)/(\d*)""
/part

This reads 3 sets of digits separated by '/'.  The sets of digits are
stored in SubPatterns 1, 2 and 3.  So if the date format is
DD/MM/, then SubPattern 1 holds the month, subpattern 2 has the
day, and 3 has the year.

(Manfred, you can generalize the separator by replacing '/' with '[/]'
and adding whatever separator inside the square brackets.)

part of regexp
%SUBPATT=""3""%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""0%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1""
/part

This part of the regexp is combining the sequences of digits.
Remembering that 1 = DD, 2 = MM, 3 = , then the sequence created
is: MMDD;;0MMDD . The extra zero is in case we have a month
with 1 digit.  Now if your Date format is different, then you need to
change the subpattern numbers to reflect the difference.  Also to
handle one digit days, you probably want to change this part to:

part of regexp
;;%SUBPATT=""3""%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""0%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""%SUBPATT=""2""0%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""0%SUBPATT=""2""0%SUBPATT=""1"";;
/part

Again, I'm assuming the date format DD/MM/.  Change the subpattern
order to suit your needs.  Now we have a really long string that looks
like: ;;MMDD;;0MMDD;;MM0DD;;0MM0DD;;

The outer regexp looks at this and looks for the first sequence that
has 8 digits in a row. Note the first part MMDD;; will have 6 or 7
digits if it is a 1 digit month or day. The second one, 0MMDD is 8
digits only when it is a 1 digit month and a 2 digit day.  I'll let
you work out the rest of the sequence to see when it should be called.

However, as written, the outer regexp will return the wrong result
when it is a two digit month and a 1 digit day.  So the outer regexp
needs to be slightly modified.  Instead of:

%SETPATTREGEXP="\d{8}"

Change this to:

%SETPATTREGEXP=";;(\d{8});;"

Of course now we need to change the type of match we're using, because
we don't want to include the ';;' characters.  So all said and done,
the final regexp should look something like:

regexp
%SETPATTREGEXP=";;(\d{8});;"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(\d*)[-/](\d*)[-/](\d*)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%DATESHORT"";;%SUBPATT=""3""%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""0%SUBPATT=""2""%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""%SUBPATT=""2""0%SUBPATT=""1"";;%SUBPATT=""3""0%SUBPATT=""2""0%SUBPATT=""1"";;"%SUBPATT="1"
/regexp

This regexp changes DD/MM/ or DD-MM- to MMDD.

Note on my system, this is what I see:
%DATESHORT = 1/12/2001
regexp   = 20010121

Notice that my short date format does not match the DD/MM/ format,
hence the wrong answer.  If I change my computer date to October 12,2001
the regexp spits out:

%DATESHORT = 10/12/2001
regexp   = 20011210

Perhaps that gives you a better example of what is really happening.

ND Is this something easy to fix?

Although the description above is rather lengthy, it was fairly simple
to correct the problem.  Wait, I just noticed, this regexp will give
weird results when you have a two digit month and a 1 digit day.  I'll
have to think about this some more.

I'll get back to you if I figure out a solution.

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Re: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread Manfred Ell

On 13-01-2001 at 02:43:24GMT +0100 (which was 1:43 where I live)
Olivier Reubens wrote regarding the subject of "Multiple email everything."


Hello Olivier,

Have I missed something?! If I haven't - and this looks like a
solution for you - , you could use the SMTP-server of
webmail-providers like www.myrealbox.com , www.gmx.net , www.yahoo.com
or  www.operamail.com .
Olivier I'll check them and see if they allow me to SMTP send using the
Olivier from-addresses I need.

They won't, because they don't allow relaying. You need to set up you
own mail server. MDaemon (software) or Cobalt Cube (hardware) or Linux
sendmail.

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Re: MAPI Calls?

2001-01-12 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Gerry,

GD = Gerry Doyon 

On  Fri, 12 Jan 2001  at  08:33:58 GMT -0500 (which was 5:33 AM where
I live) witnesses say Gerry Doyon typed:

GD My goal is to be able to "feed" TB! messages to send without having to
GD run TB! with command line options to create/send this message for EACH
GD message I want to send.

GD In other words, another application will be created the a message in
GD text and I want to be able to read this text file in and feed it to
GD TB!

I'm not sure I'm understanding why the command line is not desirable.
If I understand correctly (I probably don't), you are creating the
message completely in your other program, and you want to import it
into the outbox to send, right?  If that is the case, have you tried
the /mail switch with the Text= option?

Of course using the /mail switch does not open the editor, so
depending on how much can be defined by the calling program, this may
not be appropriate.

If you don't mind sending the text file as an attachment, you could
always call TB with the filename as a parameter,
eg. "thebat.exe message.txt".

Are unique names used for the file names?  How much of the message is
defined by the calling program (eg Headers, Body, etc)?

Could you create a folder with a template that includes a temp file,
and use the /Focus option to use this folder from your calling
program?  Then you'd just need some tiny txt file to drop into the
folder to create a new message.

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Re: Januk - Regex bug?

2001-01-12 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Januk - Regex bug?
   From: Januk Aggarwal
 
Dated:
 Fri, 12 Jan 2001, 18:24:06 (8:24:06 PM Local)
~~

Hi Januk,

J  Wait, I just noticed, this regexp will give
J weird results when you have a two digit month and a 1 digit day.  I'll
J have to think about this some more.

J I'll get back to you if I figure out a solution.

I'll be waiting, and thanks for the explanation - I did find it
enlightening even though I'm not sure I followed the entire "lesson".

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Re: Read message filter - when it runs

2001-01-12 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Marck,

MDP = Marck D. Pearlstone 

On  Sat, 13 Jan 2001  at  02:10:58 GMT + (which was 6:10 PM where
I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed:

Ayc   So the question is when or even does The Bat! run read message
Ayc   filters... I tried to exit program, change mailbox but messages
Ayc   still stay...

MDP Read message filters kick off at the moment a message status changes
MDP from unread to read.

Um, add to that, you must finish "reading" the message before read
filters kick in, (at least with the preview pane).  What I mean by
"reading" is, you must change focus to another message/folder/account
or you must close TB before the filter will kick in.

Also check that the source folder is correct.  Read filters do pay
attention to the source folder selection.

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Re[2]: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread George F Schoelles

Hello Olivier,

Friday, January 12, 2001, 5:43:24 PM, you wrote:

OR I have at current not found an SMTP server which I can access, from
OR wherever I connected from (i.e. whatever ISP's I'm using). and send
OR the mails through with any of 20 or so different "FROM" addresses
OR (which include several different domains, most of which are ".be"
OR domains).
OR If you know of any, It'd probably solve most of my problems.

Quick and short from what I've read you might try centralinfo.net.
There you can host your domain, website, pop and smtp mail from any
location or web access.  Price is cheap enough at $8.00 US per month
for a long list of services and disk space.  The only draw-back I've
seen is a curious person could see your domain is on a uslive.net
virtual server in the header (see mine). I find this trivial do to the
great customer support
the give.

Good luck

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Re[2]: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hello Olivier and other TBUDL's,

On Saturday, January 13, 2001 at 02:43:24 GMT +0100 Olivier Reubens
wrote on"Multiple email everything.":

OR On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:51:47 +0100, you wrote:

I've finally managed to read my way through the complete thread, but I
still don't understand why you can't use the SMTP-server of one of the
web-mail providers offering SMTP-by-login and then

1) set up TB with only *one* account
OR I need to be able to distinguish OUTGOING mailboxes. 
OR When customers write to say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a reply is sent
OR by me or my colleagues, it should have [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the
OR "from" so when customers in turn reply, it nicely arrives in the
OR support inbox again and so on.
OR Same for info@... sales@... and several others.

But, nothing I suggested will prevent you from this. Simply set up as
many mailboxes as you like and let each have it own "From" and
"Reply"-name - but let all have *the same* smtp-settings. I promise
you, that this will work, as I am doing it currently!


OR To make matters worse, I need to be able to do all this from
OR various places. Connecting to the server of a different ISP
OR depending on where I'm connecting from.

OR And I'm changing locations at least 3 times a day. (can you see me
OR changing account info for 6-7 accounts, 3+ times a day)... sigh. it's
OR depressing...

Believe me: I've *been* there :-(

2) set up TB with just as many account as *you* want (not as many as
the amount of your ISP's dictate!) and then use only this *one*
SMTP-server for your account.
OR The ISP's don't dictate it, I'm dictating it onto myself because I
OR have no viable alternative.

But you have no viable alternative because your ISP's do not *allow*
you any alternative. Who is dictating then?

Both of these solutions would allow you to send from *one* SMTP-server
no matter where you were connected, and would thus save you the
trouble of
OR I have at current not found an SMTP server which I can access, from
OR wherever I connected from (i.e. whatever ISP's I'm using). and send
OR the mails through with any of 20 or so different "FROM" addresses
OR (which include several different domains, most of which are ".be"
OR domains).
OR If you know of any, It'd probably solve most of my problems.

I'm using www.myrealbox.com as you can see, and I'm reasonably
satisfied. I haven't tried sending from *that* many domains, but until
now I haven't had any problems whatsoever. I connect to four different
ISP's during the day in order to cut expenses - but no matter where I
am connected, I always send from the MyRealBox SMTP-server. All you
need to do for each account is

1) get an account with MyRealBox (or whatever you choose)

2) let myrealbox.com be your SMTP-setting in all mailboxes

3) Set "Authentication" to "Perform SMTP-authentication" (with
"Specific settings" in all mailboxes with different sending identities
than your MyRealBox sending identity - and "Use settings of Mail
Retrieval" in your MyRealbox-mailbox (if you want to *have* a
MyRealBox-mailbox - you're free to use only their SMTP-server)).


Since all of these services also offer POP/IMAP-retrieval from TB,
you can collect all your mail-traffic on one of these accounts, and,
thus, enjoy the additional bonus of being able to read all your mail
where ever you have access to the web - not just on your TB-PC!
OR GETTING the mail isn't a problem.  All of the ISP's I have mailboxes
OR at allow me to get pop access and retrieve the mail in the mailboxes,
OR but I can't SEND mail through an account which ISP I'm not directly
OR dialed into.
OR And doing this from multiple PC's isn't a problem either.

What I meant was this: If you start using one of the suggested
addresses and get your various correspondents used to send to *that*
address, you'll be able to enjoy the benefits of using a *web-account*
for sending and retrieving mail - namely, the benefit of reading your
mail where ever there is a device with a browser. After your messages
are read on the web-interface of your web-account, you just mark them
all "unread" and they are ready for TB to download them when you get
home to your PC.



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Re[2]: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hello Manfred and other TBUDL's,

On Saturday, January 13, 2001 at 02:37:27 GMT + Manfred Ell wrote
on "Multiple email everything.":

ME On 13-01-2001 at 02:43:24GMT +0100 (which was 1:43 where I live)
ME Olivier Reubens wrote regarding the subject of "Multiple email everything."


ME Hello Olivier,

Have I missed something?! If I haven't - and this looks like a
solution for you - , you could use the SMTP-server of
webmail-providers like www.myrealbox.com , www.gmx.net , www.yahoo.com
or  www.operamail.com .
Olivier I'll check them and see if they allow me to SMTP send using the
Olivier from-addresses I need.

ME They won't, because they don't allow relaying. You need to set up you
ME own mail server. MDaemon (software) or Cobalt Cube (hardware) or Linux
ME sendmail.

Am I then a magician? I am currently sending from - at least - four
different "From"-addresses and only *one* SMTP-server. I cannot
guarantee that the SMTP-server I am currently using will send from
*all* "From"-domains - but I can guarantee you that it will send from
*several*. I cannot see why it should care the slightest about which
domain is used as "From"-address - as long as the sending mailbox is
using SMTP-by-login ("Use specific settings" under "Authentication").



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Re: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread Elden Fenison

Manfred,

On Friday, January 12, 2001, 6:37:27 PM, you wrote:

ME They won't, because they don't allow relaying. You need to
ME set up you own mail server. MDaemon (software) or Cobalt Cube
ME (hardware) or Linux sendmail.

My two cents on this... I work for an ISP, and true, no reputable
ISP will allow relaying. If they do, they will be blackholed in
fairly short order. Normally, the ISP restricts this by only
allowing mail to be sent if it originates from one of their own
IP addresses, (ie the pool used for their dialup services or dsl
connections). Essentially, sendmail checks all mail being
relayed, (not destined for the account of one of the ISP's
customers), against a table of allowed IP addresses. I really
don't think the from email address on the email makes any
difference here, but rather the IP it originates from.

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Re: Multiple email everything.

2001-01-12 Thread Elden Fenison

Jannik,

On Friday, January 12, 2001, 9:45:30 PM, you wrote:

JL But, nothing I suggested will prevent you from this. Simply
JL set up as many mailboxes as you like and let each have it own
JL "From" and "Reply"-name - but let all have *the same*
JL smtp-settings. I promise you, that this will work, as I am
JL doing it currently!

The from email address has no bearing normally... the important
thing is that you send email using the server of the ISP you're
connected to. They will know by that that you are one of "theirs"
and allow you to send anything you like.

This assumes that there is no authentication on the SMTP
connection... perhaps an ISP could allow authenticated users to
send regardless of their IP, and I would imagine some do.


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