PGP encrypted msgs
Hello the list, A bit newbie question's here. When I encrypt a message before sending it, it appear encrypted ever since. I have to copy it and view in PGP clipboard if I'm interested in what I've written a couple of days ago. Can anybody suggest a less awkward way to save a non-encrypted copy of a message? Best regards, Serge Skorokhodov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Like Notepad with word-wrap...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21 January 2001 at 10:45:21 + (which was 10:45 where I live) Marck D. Pearlstone wrote and made these points: MDP If your message went through a formatting MTA, you wouldn't get MDP what you want. There is *no* guarantee of that. The only way to MDP guarantee it is to send the text as an attachment. Let's move this thread to TBTECH now. It's become very circular and RFC centric. No more on TBUDL please. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmrFLDnkJKuSnc2gEQKK9wCgprGn8DbYASRYGSL+aQ6d8K/zaFgAn2TC HP5/bOm8oVqIudsT7bgec87+ =4RPx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Like Notepad with word-wrap...
Hello Marck, Sunday, January 21, 2001, 3:17:24 AM, you wrote: MDP Let's move this thread to TBTECH now. It's become very circular and MDP RFC centric. No more on TBUDL please. I'm done with it. I think both our points and feelings were made with-out possible resolution. -- Best regards, Georgemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa's elves are just a bunch of subordinate Clauses. * * * === Thawte authorized WOT Notary ICQ: 122492 * * * === "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..." -- the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Nisi Defectum Haud Reficindium (If it ain't broke, don't fix it) Digitally signed with PGP to allow source and content authentication by recipient. Finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for keys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Like Notepad with word-wrap...
Hello Marck, Sunday, January 21, 2001, 2:45:21 AM, you wrote: MDP Simple. George changed the subject. I was talking to George, not you. MDP He stipulated that formatting could be constant without hard returns. MDP That is not the case. Different recipients *see* differently formatted MDP results depending on the configuration at their end. I never said "that formatting could be constant without hard returns." You just inferred that. -- Best regards, George mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *Thawte authorized WOT Notary * ICQ: 122492 * ** Help stamp out, delete, and eradicate superfluous redundancy. Finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for keys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: (No Subject)
Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw that net5zero would write the following on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:57:10 [GMT -0500]: Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message received". However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in the program.] I can just give a slight confirmation that something is not completely right in this area. I have just converted to The Bat! after 5 years with PMMail and when I set up my accounts I accidentally forgot to add a few passwords to them. After a few days I got a little suspicious on why I had not received any mail on that account since when I checked the mail it confirmed that it actually _had_ checked the mailbox (which it of course had not done. This error only seemd to appear when fetching mail from one server (another account did not show this peculiar error). All in all, 1.49 is the first version of The Bat! that I have put effort in so I cannot really say anything about earlier versions. Used POP3 for this account. Then I try to send a test message. The dialog box appears, and the graphic bar went from 0 to 100%; then the dialogbox disappears. The "sent" message appears in the Sent folder; but I didn't get it in my other account. No error message. I use an SMTP server w/o authentification here so this worked fine anyways. I am using Win95a, if it makes any difference; no virus programs, no firewalls running in the background. Win2k here. With antivirus programs/firewalls/proxys etc // Yours Jonas -- Jonas Larsson ((__)) If God didn't want Tornavgen 19:131(00) us to eat cows, 223 63 Lund nn--(o__o)--nn-he wouldn't have made +46 (0)46 139924 them out of meat. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: (No Subject)
Hello Jonas, On Sunday, January 21, 2001 15:59:28 [GMT +0100], you wrote the following in regards to '(No Subject)': Jonas Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw [...] Do you think Nostradamus foresaw a subject for this thread just forgot to put it in his journals? ;-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Translating The Bat...
Hallo Lija, On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:09:43 +0100 GMT (21/01/2001, 14:09 +0800 GMT), Lija wrote: L Who downloaded International Pack, here? I posted a wish message to RIT few L months ago about translation to my native (Serbian) language, but they didn't L respond. I offered myself to do that job for them absolutely free, no charge at L all, but still no answer. I have two possibly not relevant explanations: 1.) The Ritlabs people are currently busy doing something (I don't know details) that must be ready for the CeBIT fair. 2.) Version 2 will enable a kind of selective langauge pack. There will be a different format, so the work to trasnlate within the current format will be wasted. For more details on translation, especially if you want to translate now and not wait until v2, please email directly to Stan Polozov at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L So far, I downloaded only THEBAT.LNG file, tried something, but... is there any L tool that will allow me to modify this file and add support for my native L language? That would be great pleasure to all users in Serbia... and specially, L done by Lija. :)) That sounds like a treat indeed. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Many people quit looking for work when they find a job. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - dispatcher
Hallo Krzysztof, On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:16:09 +0100 GMT (21/01/2001, 00:16 +0800 GMT), Krzysztof J. Trybowski wrote: KJT Alternatively, I'd like dispatcher to work in an interactive mode KJT -- just after the request to download headers, the dispatcher KJT window would appear, and the headers would appear in it one-by-one KJT while being downloaded. User could stop downloading of headers at KJT any time, and start working with dispatcher as usual. KJT CCed to TBUDL - what do you think guys? I like the idea. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "Momentum: What you give a person when they are going away." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: (No Subject) (None at all?)
Hallo Jonas, On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:59:28 +0100 GMT (21/01/2001, 22:59 +0800 GMT), Jonas T Larsson wrote: JTL Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw that net5zero would write the JTL following on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:57:10 [GMT -0500]: LOL! Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message received". However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in the program.] JTL I can just give a slight confirmation that something is not completely JTL right in this area. I think someone reported before that if the password is not correct, TB will not show an error. Or something like that. It being after midnight here and all, I am not going to make some tests, but maybe someone is in the mood? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "Momentum: What you give a person when they are going away." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat!, PGP and viruses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all! I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails without the users knowledge. Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!? I am wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential virus that works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well. Right now I am telling all my friends and family that, unless they received a SIGNED message from me they are to suspect that a virus sent it. Is this a valid assumption on my part. Thanks! Windows 98 version 4 : 10 (Built to bleed) The Bat! 1.49 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication iQA/AwUBOmsRhRalOqMy8yvQEQJYCgCdGsX4qlU2KsJdbpMjq/3RU72EsP4An17K 9ViEwyN77iiS3HmToIb94/i4 =1Oxl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerry Doyon ! On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:42:45 -0500 GMT your local time, which was 21.01.2001, 17:42 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!? Not heard about that for TB! I am wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential virus that works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well. I could imagine a program doing that, baut only if the passphrase is cached. Otherwise a window pops up to ask you for your passphrase and this would halt the sending process. Mmmh, well one could imagine a program (virus) storing your passphrase and entering it when necessary, but no, I don't think someone will spend this time to write that virus. Right now I am telling all my friends and family that, unless they received a SIGNED message from me they are to suspect that a virus sent it. Is this a valid assumption on my part. Exactly what I told my friends and I'm quite sure it is still ok! BTW, because you are using TB to create and send messages you should disable PGP's word-wrapping (it is not necessary in TB): Tools.PGP.PGP_Preferences, Tab-folder Email, last checkbox "word-wrap..." should be unchecked. You will have a proper Word-wrapping then! - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.49c PGP-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Indecision is the key to flexibility. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOmsJy0y/sHrVbGGHEQJx8QCfSxpG6ncoIF2Igkui9vDTabZBTe0AoPk+ D5kkjbG4LDhUOIS1ZIdyu9cf =a6Z1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: (No Subject)
On Saturday, January 20, 2001, 5:57:10 PM, net5zero wrote: I had 1.44 and installed 1.49 over 1.44. I noticed the icons' color are all lighter shade -- "Get New Mail" is light sea blue, "Send Queue Mail" is light green, etc. As Januk said, this is probably normal. Though I don't exactly recall there was such a color change, it's probably because I'm generally less sensitive to such things. Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message received". However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in the program.] I would suggest trying the following: 1. type in your password carefully in Account Properties and let TB remember it. Yes, I know you don't want that, but it's just a test to see if TB works in that condition. You can always wipe out the password later. 2. Create a new account in TB, set it up with the same settings as the problematic one. Better if you don't copy-paste anything from the old account, but typing in all necessary information by hand. I know it's not likely there's anything wrong with the old settings, since it worked under 1.44, but we're dealing with a strange problem here, so some unusual approach may be called for. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.49c | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses
On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:42, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all! I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails without the users knowledge. Only on systems using insecure mailers such as Outlook. This is due to a security flaw in the way tehse programs handle VB scripting. Much of this can be prevented by using the spydog patches. Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!? I am wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential virus that works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well. I agree with Gerd on this point. Unless a Virus was sophisticated enough it is unlikely that it could send PGP signed messages. However, it is always a possibility and you should always have a virus scanner. When I recieve messages with attachements I usually e-mail the sender to find out what it was before opening. -- AOL Users. To reply to this mail press CTRL + ALT +DEL. To complain about this mail type "format c:" at the C:\ prompt. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat!, PGP and viruses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jamie, You wrote on 1/21/2001, 9:01 PM: I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails without the users knowledge. Jamie Only on systems using insecure mailers such as Outlook. This is Jamie due to a security flaw in the way tehse programs handle VB Jamie scripting. Much of this can be prevented by using the spydog Jamie patches. No, Outlook is insecure because it doesn't handle attachments in a secure way, and IIRC there was a vulnerability when az OE user could get infected even if he/she didn't click on the attachment, just opened the messagge. OTOH, Outlook or TB either can't do much against an active virus in your system. It can auto-generate mail, get info from your Address Book, etc. Happy99, anyone? - -- Cheers, SyP BYTE editors are men who seperate the wheat from the chaff, and then print the chaff. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOms2iNkgnrcJiuwTEQK0+ACbBOJYaJdtqw85YduuoGkf5i9o8mUAmwW2 mBHRa3k5yo9Agl0P0JhEjpFj =CdMy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
Hello A, On Saturday, January 20, 2001 you wrote: Why not prevent downloading of these large messages and then download them later at your leisure with the dispatcher. In fact you can even ignore some after examining the headers. Because configuring TB in the way you said means that this will be permanent. What I wish is much simpler and can be applied when for some reason I decide that I want to skip the message. For example, this and only this particular time the connection is very slow or I'm just in a hurry and that 1,5 meg message blocks all other. Yeah, I could cancel downloading and trigger mail dispatcher, but after pressing cancel and answering "no", all the already downloaded messages would be marked for retrieval again. I'd have to wait till all their headers are downloaded *again* and then mess with all of them. Takes much time. And "skip" would be such simple solution. I'm not sure about technical possibilities of realizing it. Is it possible in POP3 to cancel the retrieval of a message, without cancelling whole session (which would lead to all the downloaded and "deleted" messages be downloaded again)? Opss, this should actually go to TBTECH... -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xC2AF5441 /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.thebat.i.krakow.pl uin 4350719 /--/ "send_key" in subject. /_ Using The Bat! 1.49c [reg] under Windows NT 5.0 build 2195. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat!, PGP and viruses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerd, Sunday, January 21, 2001, 12:09:46 PM, you wrote: GE BTW, because you are using TB to create and send messages you should GE disable PGP's word-wrapping (it is not necessary in TB): GE Tools.PGP.PGP_Preferences, Tab-folder Email, last checkbox "word-wrap..." GE should be unchecked. You will have a proper Word-wrapping then! Thanks for that piece of advice Gerd. Also, thanks to all who responded to my message. - -- Best regards, Gerrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmtvFhalOqMy8yvQEQJssgCeK9nE5x1HzibqV4H05wTth6TPFgQAoIbH wqo4/OxneXKjQU8OlV5soXM7 =9Qn9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Editting Received Messages
Tried checking for this on the "How do I.." page, but it was misbehaving. Is there any way to edit a received message, short of forwarding it to oneself? I srchive some messages in folders, and I'd like to cut out unnecessary lines. Thanks! Jim Two rules for success in life: 1) Don't tell people everything you know. 2) (P.S. - Thanks to whomever I stole this tagline from!) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editting Received Messages
Hello Jim Steiner, Historians believe that Sun, 21 Jan 2001 at 18:31:11 GMT -0500 was when, Jim Steiner [JS] typed the following: JS Is there any way to edit a received message, short of forwarding it to JS oneself? Only two ways in TB. Both have drawbacks. 1) Drag it to your outbox, edit and drag it back. This destroys some of the header info. 2) Export the message, edit, and import back. This is more tedious. You may be able to partially automate the last option with a batch file and the use of the /Import and /Export command line parameters. Let us know if you try it and get it to work. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gerry, On 21 January 2001 at 11:42:45 -0500 (which was 16:42 where I live) Gerry Doyon wrote and made these points: GD I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails without GD the GD users knowledge. FYI - the bad wrapping above is caused by allowing PGP to reformat the message when signing. For the best results, turn off wrapping in the PGP preferences when using PGP with TB. GD Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!? I am GD wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential GD virus that GD works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well. TB can be induced to send an email from an external command line parameter but that is not the kind of virus that you are talking about so, no - not really. GD Right now I am telling all my friends and family that, unless they GD received GD a SIGNED message from me they are to suspect that a virus sent it. GD Is this GD a valid assumption on my part. Pretty much. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmtZSznkJKuSnc2gEQLMxACePFMc0UxRRaBLGefBYwuo4PNMKnoAoIVn 2EaGwKSDo/CEYhkCDLKEkfz6 =FTzy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses
Hi Marck, Historians believe that Sun, 21 Jan 2001 at 21:48:43 GMT + was when, Marck D. Pearlstone [MP] typed the following: MP TB can be induced to send an email from an external command line MP parameter but that is not the kind of virus that you are talking about MP so, no - not really. What about through MAPI? It won't invoke any templates, but how does it work with the account default settings for PGP? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I have an imaginary friend who refuses to play with me. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
-- On Saturday, January 20, 2001, 7:03:14 PM, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: CJT Because configuring TB in the way you said means that this will be CJT permanent. What I wish is much simpler and can be applied when for CJT some reason I decide that I want to skip the message. I agree with Christopher and would also very much like to see a feature like this. I do NOT want to configure TB to leave mail that has been fully downloaded on the server, but I also would prefer a mechanism that would allow download of small messages ahead of larger ones. In a very OLD version of Netscape mail - probably Netscape 3, - it was possible to configure the mail program to not download messages over a certain user-specified size. For example, if the user specified that messages over 100k would not be downloaded, then the messages would only be partially downloaded, along with a message saying that the remainder had been left on the server, and Netscape 3 would skip ahead to the next message. Then you could go back later to retrieve the balance of the partially downloaded message. That feature was abandoned in later versions, but one that would be nice to implement in TB. It can be very difficult with a large volume of email being handled when a message with a large attachment is at the head of the queue, thereby preventing download of perhaps dozens of routine customer inquiries. -Abigail -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! v1.49 - attaching an email
Hello TBUDListers. What steps does one take to attach an eMail to another msg? Ex: I decide to send a copy of an earlier msg to a friend. I know I can forward it; I'd like to know if I can attach it? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - attaching an email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:50:27 -0500, Jan thoughtfully wrote the following: JR What steps does one take to attach an eMail to another msg? Ex: JR I decide to send a copy of an earlier msg to a friend. I know I JR can forward it; I'd like to know if I can attach it? MIME forward the message. To do this, go into your account properties and go to the default forward templates configuration dialog. Enable 'Use MIME standard for forwarding.' Now forward your friends message again and it will be attached as well as quoted (it's quoted because of the forward template). You can delete the quoted material and leave only the attachment. You may forward multiple messages within a folder as attachments by selecting them all and then hitting forward. The recipient will receive them in MIME digest format. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49b | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOmuXFFfJ62ArBxfiEQJA5wCg/CFFsn6+t9TVkZmxGa1lSiHXkdoAoL/t Ssd/fufhEliQgpp5tLxk1rg0 =t3A0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On 22 January 2001 at 16:55:06 -0800 (which was 00:55 where I live) Januk Aggarwal wrote and made these points: MP TB can be induced to send an email from an external command line MP parameter but that is not the kind of virus that you are talking MP about so, no - not really. JA What about through MAPI? It won't invoke any templates, but how does JA it work with the account default settings for PGP? The MAPI Interface seems to popup a new message window which gives full user interception. Can the MAPI interface be induced to just send? Doesn't it need a destination address in advance? Isn't the nature of this type of virus that it induces Outlook or OE to send to most of the folks in the standard system address book - a facility not available in TB by that route anyway? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmunWjnkJKuSnc2gEQKmwACeMLK5A3UzLyc6K4tyPQY+K4BzS4sAn1XZ Hu3ZBtm6fRFeQjP6R4mdii/S =+McR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, at 17:06:42 [GMT -0800], Abigail Marshall wrote: AM In a very OLD version of Netscape mail - probably Netscape 3, - it was AM possible to configure the mail program to not download messages over a AM certain user-specified size. For example, if the user specified that AM messages over 100k would not be downloaded, then the messages would AM only be partially downloaded, along with a message saying that the AM remainder had been left on the server, and Netscape 3 would skip ahead AM to the next message. Then you could go back later to retrieve the AM balance of the partially downloaded message. Do you mean "Account/Properties/Mail management/Receive header only if message size is greater than"? Set the spinner next to that prompt to the maximum size that doesn't need your attention. I can't say how well this works, as I have a broadband connection and don't use this feature. This isn't a substitute for a clean skip or cancel of the transfer where the already downloaded messages are handled properly on the server, but it should help some and is already here. Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.49 running on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmupCtkz/SR3Uv4yEQJ3pQCg5f5TFk1os9d+4nKzo6AqRqj1OVsAn0FU qAixsdFigOyfCD6/VfpDWUVi =qxwa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Like Notepad with word-wrap...
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Saturday, January 20, 2001, Jonas T Larsson wrote to Lija about Like Notepad with word-wrap...: JTL There are potential problems sending messages with 1000 chars/line JTL since this is the maximum line length specified in some RFC. Supposedly JTL some servers will barf on those mails. This is something I picked up JTL from a PMMail mailing list where the subject came up. Some servers cuts lines longer than 1000 chars -- not wraps, but cuts. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.49 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: small stupidity
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Sunday, January 21, 2001, Avenarius wrote to Januk Aggarwal about small stupidity: A Which is a sad arrangement. Quick-search seems useless, has never A worked properly for me. Why? A For the benefit of one apparently disfunctinal quicksearch A function, 25 potential one-key shortcuts have been made impossible. A 8-( Why do you think that those will work properly for you? A Let's hope that quicksearch disappears in Version 2.0, I hope it will not, because I do use it and it works properly for me and it is one of advantages of TB! against other MUA for me. A or that it gets assigned its own absurd keyboard shortcut such as A CTRL+=. It will be not a QUICK search. A The = is in the upper row of keys on the English and in the lower A row of keys on the German keyboard -- which drives me crazy, as I A need to use the keyboard combination every once in a while to A retrieve addresses from the Address Book. Use nicknames, you will not have to use any key combinations other than ';' and Enter. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.49 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Problems with the french apostrophe!
Hello, I write mail mail with The Bat (ver. 1.49) mainly in French. The spelling option using the SSCEngine does not work properly with the "apostrophe" (i.e. l'eau. The use of the apostrophe is VERY common in French and The Bat reports everytime a misspelling) After contacting the Wintertree web site, I understand that the "SplitContractedWords" property of the SSCEngine should be set to "1". Could you tell me how to enable this property? I enclose the description of the problem as shown in the Wintertree page : Problems using French or Italian dictionaries - Product: Sentry Spelling Checker Engine (all SDKs) Version: any Problem: When using Wintertree Software's French or Italian dictionaries, most contracted words (e.g., quell'anno, l'eau) are reported as misspellings, and the suggestions offerred have a space incorrectly inserted between the contracted words (e.g., quell' anno, l' eau). Solution: When using Wintertree Software's French or Italian dictionaries, the SSCE_SPLIT_CONTRACTED_WORDS_OPT must be enabled. If you are using the SSCE Windows SDK, the SplitContractedWords property should be set to 1. Thank you for your quick reply. Regards, Francis Segond -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Editting Received Messages
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, January 22, 2001, Januk Aggarwal wrote to Jim Steiner about Editting Received Messages: JA 2) Export the message, edit, and import back. This is more tedious. Destroys only received time. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.49 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editting Received Messages
Hello OK3, Historians believe that Mon, 22 Jan 2001 at 11:49:59 GMT +0400 was when, OK3 [O] typed the following: JA 2) Export the message, edit, and import back. This is more tedious. O Destroys only received time. IIRC, that's not true when you export as .msg files. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Personal Plan: To avoid sanity, lucidity and wit at all costs. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org