PGP encrypted msgs

2001-01-21 Thread Serge Skorokhodov

Hello the list,

A bit newbie question's here. When I encrypt a message before
sending it, it appear encrypted ever since. I have to copy it and
view in PGP clipboard if I'm interested in what I've written a
couple of days ago.

Can anybody suggest a less awkward way to save a non-encrypted
copy of a message?

Best regards,
 Serge Skorokhodov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-21 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hash: SHA1

On  21  January  2001 at 10:45:21 + (which was 10:45 where I live)
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote and made these points:

MDP If  your  message went through a formatting MTA, you wouldn't get
MDP what  you  want. There is *no* guarantee of that. The only way to
MDP guarantee it is to send the text as an attachment.

Let's  move  this  thread to TBTECH now. It's become very circular and
RFC centric. No more on TBUDL please.

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Re[2]: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-21 Thread George F Schoelles

Hello Marck,

Sunday, January 21, 2001, 3:17:24 AM, you wrote:


MDP Let's  move  this  thread to TBTECH now. It's become very circular and
MDP RFC centric. No more on TBUDL please.

I'm done with it.  I think both our points and feelings were made
with-out possible resolution.

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Re[2]: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-21 Thread George F Schoelles

Hello Marck,

Sunday, January 21, 2001, 2:45:21 AM, you wrote:

MDP Simple.  George changed the subject. I was talking to George, not you.
MDP He  stipulated that formatting could be constant without hard returns.
MDP That is not the case. Different recipients *see* differently formatted
MDP results depending on the configuration at their end.

I never said "that formatting could be constant without hard
returns." You just inferred that.

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Re: (No Subject)

2001-01-21 Thread Jonas T Larsson

Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw that net5zero would write the
following on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:57:10 [GMT -0500]:

 Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then
 disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last
 retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message
 received".  However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it
 was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in
 the program.]

I can just give a slight confirmation that something is not completely
right in this area. I have just converted to The Bat! after 5 years with
PMMail and when I set up my accounts I accidentally forgot to add a few
passwords to them. After a few days I got a little suspicious on why I
had not received any mail on that account since when I checked the mail
it confirmed that it actually _had_ checked the mailbox (which it of
course had not done. This error only seemd to appear when fetching mail
from one server (another account did not show this peculiar error). All
in all, 1.49 is the first version of The Bat! that I have put effort in
so I cannot really say anything about earlier versions. Used POP3 for
this account.


 Then I try to send a test message.  The dialog box appears, and the
 graphic bar went from 0 to 100%; then the dialogbox disappears.  The
 "sent" message appears in the Sent folder; but I didn't get it in my
 other account.  No error message.

I use an SMTP server w/o authentification here so this worked fine
anyways.

 I am using Win95a, if it makes any difference; no virus programs, no
 firewalls running in the background.

Win2k here. With antivirus programs/firewalls/proxys etc

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Re[2]: (No Subject)

2001-01-21 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Jonas,

On Sunday, January 21, 2001 15:59:28 [GMT +0100], you wrote the
following in regards to '(No Subject)':

Jonas Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw [...]

  Do you think Nostradamus foresaw a subject for this thread  just
  forgot to put it in his journals? ;-)

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Re: Translating The Bat...

2001-01-21 Thread Thomas

Hallo Lija,

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:09:43 +0100 GMT (21/01/2001, 14:09 +0800 GMT),
Lija wrote:

L Who downloaded International Pack, here? I posted a wish message to RIT few
L months ago about translation to my native (Serbian) language, but they didn't
L respond. I offered myself to do that job for them absolutely free, no charge at
L all, but still no answer.

I have two possibly not relevant explanations:

1.) The Ritlabs people are currently busy doing something (I don't
know details) that must be ready for the CeBIT fair.

2.) Version 2 will enable a kind of selective langauge pack. There
will be a different format, so the work to trasnlate within the
current format will be wasted.

For more details on translation, especially if you want to translate
now and not wait until v2, please email directly to Stan Polozov
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

L So far, I downloaded only THEBAT.LNG file, tried something, but... is there any
L tool that will allow me to modify this file and add support for my native
L language? That would be great pleasure to all users in Serbia... and specially,
L done by Lija. :))

That sounds like a treat indeed. :-)

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Re: The Bat! - suggestions - dispatcher

2001-01-21 Thread Thomas

Hallo Krzysztof,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:16:09 +0100 GMT (21/01/2001, 00:16 +0800 GMT),
Krzysztof J. Trybowski wrote:

KJT Alternatively,  I'd like dispatcher to work in an interactive mode
KJT --  just  after  the  request  to download headers, the dispatcher
KJT window would appear, and the headers would appear in it one-by-one
KJT while  being downloaded. User could stop downloading of headers at
KJT any time, and start working with dispatcher as usual.

KJT CCed to TBUDL - what do you think guys?

I like the idea.

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Re: (No Subject) (None at all?)

2001-01-21 Thread Thomas

Hallo Jonas,

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:59:28 +0100 GMT (21/01/2001, 22:59 +0800 GMT),
Jonas T Larsson wrote:

JTL Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw that net5zero would write the
JTL following on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:57:10 [GMT -0500]:

LOL!

 Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then
 disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last
 retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message
 received".  However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it
 was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in
 the program.]

JTL I can just give a slight confirmation that something is not completely
JTL right in this area.

I think someone reported before that if the password is not correct,
TB will not show an error. Or something like that. It being after
midnight here and all, I am not going to make some tests, but maybe
someone is in the mood?

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The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread Gerry Doyon

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello all!

I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails without
the
users knowledge.

Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!?  I am
wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential
virus that
works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well.

Right now I am telling all my friends and family that, unless they
received
a SIGNED message from me they are to suspect that a virus sent it. 
Is this
a valid assumption on my part.

Thanks!


Windows 98 version 4 : 10 (Built to bleed)
The Bat! 1.49

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Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread Gerd Ewald

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Hello Gerry Doyon !


On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:42:45 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was 21.01.2001, 17:42 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

[...]

 Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!?

Not heard about that for TB!

  I am
 wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential
 virus that
 works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well.

I could imagine a program doing that, baut only if the passphrase is
cached. Otherwise a window pops up to ask you for your passphrase and this
would halt the sending process.

Mmmh, well one could imagine a program (virus) storing your passphrase and
entering it when necessary, but no, I don't think someone will spend this
time to write that virus.


 Right now I am telling all my friends and family that, unless they
 received
 a SIGNED message from me they are to suspect that a virus sent it.
 Is this
 a valid assumption on my part.

Exactly what I told my friends and I'm quite sure it is still ok!


BTW, because you are using TB to create and send messages you should
disable PGP's word-wrapping (it is not necessary in TB):
Tools.PGP.PGP_Preferences, Tab-folder Email, last checkbox "word-wrap..."
should be unchecked. You will have a proper Word-wrapping then!

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Re: (No Subject)

2001-01-21 Thread Ming-Li

On Saturday, January 20, 2001, 5:57:10 PM, net5zero wrote:

 I had 1.44 and installed 1.49 over 1.44.  I noticed the icons'
 color are all lighter shade -- "Get New Mail" is light sea blue,
 "Send Queue Mail" is light green, etc.

As Januk said, this is probably normal. Though I don't exactly
recall there was such a color change, it's probably because I'm
generally less sensitive to such things.

 Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then
 disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last
 retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message
 received".  However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it
 was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in
 the program.]

I would suggest trying the following:

1. type in your password carefully in Account Properties and let TB
remember it. Yes, I know you don't want that, but it's just a test
to see if TB works in that condition. You can always wipe out the
password later.

2. Create a new account in TB, set it up with the same settings as
the problematic one. Better if you don't copy-paste anything from
the old account, but typing in all necessary information by hand. I
know it's not likely there's anything wrong with the old settings,
since it worked under 1.44, but we're dealing with a strange problem
here, so some unusual approach may be called for.

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Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread Jamie Dainton

On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:42, you wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hello all!

 I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails without
 the
 users knowledge.

Only on systems using insecure mailers such as Outlook. This is due to a 
security flaw in the way tehse programs handle VB scripting. Much of this can 
be prevented by using the spydog patches.


 Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!?  I am
 wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential
 virus that
 works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well.


I agree with Gerd on this point. Unless a Virus was sophisticated enough it 
is unlikely that it could send PGP signed messages. However, it is always a 
possibility and you should always have a virus scanner. When I recieve 
messages with attachements I usually e-mail the sender to find out what it 
was before opening.
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Re[2]: The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread SyP

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Hello Jamie,

You wrote on 1/21/2001, 9:01 PM:

 I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails
 without the users knowledge.

Jamie Only on systems using insecure mailers such as Outlook. This is
Jamie due to a security flaw in the way tehse programs handle VB
Jamie scripting. Much of this can be prevented by using the spydog
Jamie patches.

No, Outlook is insecure because it doesn't handle attachments in a
secure way, and IIRC there was a vulnerability when az OE user could
get infected even if he/she didn't click on the attachment, just
opened the messagge.

OTOH, Outlook or TB either can't do much against an active virus in
your system. It can auto-generate mail, get info from your Address
Book, etc. Happy99, anyone?

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Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later

2001-01-21 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski

Hello A,
On Saturday, January 20, 2001 you wrote:

 Why not prevent downloading of these large messages and then download
 them later at your leisure with the dispatcher. In fact you can even
 ignore some after examining the headers.

Because  configuring  TB  in  the way you said means that this will be
permanent.  What  I  wish  is much simpler and can be applied when for
some  reason  I  decide  that I want to skip the message. For example,
this  and only this particular time the connection is very slow or I'm
just  in  a  hurry  and that 1,5 meg message blocks all other. Yeah, I
could  cancel  downloading  and  trigger  mail  dispatcher,  but after
pressing  cancel  and  answering  "no",  all  the  already  downloaded
messages  would  be  marked for retrieval again. I'd have to wait till
all  their  headers  are  downloaded *again* and then mess with all of
them. Takes much time. And "skip" would be such simple solution.

I'm  not  sure  about  technical  possibilities of realizing it. Is it
possible  in  POP3  to  cancel  the  retrieval  of  a message, without
cancelling  whole  session (which would lead to all the downloaded and
"deleted" messages be downloaded again)? Opss, this should actually go
to TBTECH...

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Re[2]: The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread Gerry Doyon

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hello Gerd,

Sunday, January 21, 2001, 12:09:46 PM, you wrote:


GE BTW, because you are using TB to create and send messages you should
GE disable PGP's word-wrapping (it is not necessary in TB):
GE Tools.PGP.PGP_Preferences, Tab-folder Email, last checkbox "word-wrap..."
GE should be unchecked. You will have a proper Word-wrapping then!

Thanks for that piece of advice Gerd. Also, thanks to all who responded to
my message.


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Editting Received Messages

2001-01-21 Thread Jim Steiner

Tried checking for this on the "How do I.." page, but it was
misbehaving.

Is there any way to edit a received message, short of forwarding it to
oneself?

I srchive some messages in folders, and I'd like to cut out
unnecessary lines.

Thanks!

Jim











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Re: Editting Received Messages

2001-01-21 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Jim Steiner,

Historians believe that Sun, 21 Jan 2001 at 18:31:11 GMT -0500 was when,
Jim Steiner [JS] typed the following:

JS Is there any way to edit a received message, short of forwarding it to
JS oneself?

Only two ways in TB.  Both have drawbacks.
1) Drag it to your outbox, edit and drag it back.  This destroys some
   of the header info.
2) Export the message, edit, and import back.  This is more tedious.

You may be able to partially automate the last option with a batch
file and the use of the /Import and /Export command line parameters.
Let us know if you try it and get it to work.

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Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Gerry,

On  21  January  2001 at 11:42:45 -0500 (which was 16:42 where I live)
Gerry Doyon wrote and made these points:

GD I know that, historically, a virus can auto-generate e-mails without
GD the
GD users knowledge.

FYI - the bad wrapping above is caused by allowing PGP to reformat the
message  when  signing. For the best results, turn off wrapping in the
PGP preferences when using PGP with TB.

GD Are there any viruses out there yet that work like this on TB!?  I am
GD wondering, since I enable PGP signing by default, if a potential
GD virus that
GD works with TB! will be able to sign the fake messages as well.

TB  can  be  induced  to  send  an email from an external command line
parameter but that is not the kind of virus that you are talking about
so, no - not really.

GD Right now I am telling all my friends and family that, unless they
GD received
GD a SIGNED message from me they are to suspect that a virus sent it.
GD Is this
GD a valid assumption on my part.

Pretty much.

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Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hi Marck,

Historians believe that Sun, 21 Jan 2001 at 21:48:43 GMT + was when,
Marck D. Pearlstone [MP] typed the following:

MP TB  can  be  induced  to  send  an email from an external command line
MP parameter but that is not the kind of virus that you are talking about
MP so, no - not really.

What about through MAPI?  It won't invoke any templates, but how does
it work with the account default settings for PGP?


 

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Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later

2001-01-21 Thread Abigail Marshall

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On Saturday, January 20, 2001, 7:03:14 PM, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote:


CJT Because  configuring  TB  in  the way you said means that this will be
CJT permanent.  What  I  wish  is much simpler and can be applied when for
CJT some  reason  I  decide  that I want to skip the message.

I agree with Christopher and would also very much like to see a
feature like this.  I do NOT want to configure TB to leave mail that
has been fully downloaded on the server, but I also would prefer a
mechanism that would allow download of small messages ahead of larger
ones.

In a very OLD version of Netscape mail - probably Netscape 3, - it was
possible to configure the mail program to not download messages over a
certain user-specified size. For example, if the user specified that
messages over 100k would not be downloaded, then the messages would
only be partially downloaded, along with a message saying that the
remainder had been left on the server, and Netscape 3 would skip ahead
to the next message. Then you could go back later to retrieve the
balance of the partially downloaded message.

That feature was abandoned in later versions, but one that would be
nice to implement in TB.  It can be very difficult with a large volume
of email being handled when a message with a large attachment is at
the head of the queue, thereby preventing download of perhaps dozens
of routine customer inquiries.

-Abigail



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TB! v1.49 - attaching an email

2001-01-21 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello TBUDListers.

  What steps does one take to attach an eMail to another msg? Ex: I
  decide to send a copy of an earlier msg to a friend. I know I can
  forward it; I'd like to know if I can attach it?
  
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Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.49
ICQ 41116329



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Re: TB! v1.49 - attaching an email

2001-01-21 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:50:27 -0500, Jan thoughtfully wrote the
following:

JR   What steps does one take to attach an eMail to another msg? Ex:
JR   I decide to send a copy of an earlier msg to a friend. I know I
JR   can forward it; I'd like to know if I can attach it?

MIME forward the message.

To do this, go into your account properties and go to the default
forward templates configuration dialog. Enable 'Use MIME standard for
forwarding.' Now forward your friends message again and it will be
attached as well as quoted (it's quoted because of the forward
template). You can delete the quoted material and leave only the
attachment.

You may forward multiple messages within a folder as attachments by
selecting them all and then hitting forward. The recipient will
receive them in MIME digest format.

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Re: The Bat!, PGP and viruses

2001-01-21 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Januk,

On  22  January  2001 at 16:55:06 -0800 (which was 00:55 where I live)
Januk Aggarwal wrote and made these points:

MP TB  can be induced to send an email from an external command line
MP parameter  but that is not the kind of virus that you are talking
MP about so, no - not really.

JA What about through MAPI?  It won't invoke any templates, but how does
JA it work with the account default settings for PGP?

The  MAPI  Interface  seems  to popup a new message window which gives
full  user  interception.  Can  the  MAPI interface be induced to just
send?  Doesn't  it  need  a  destination address in advance? Isn't the
nature  of this type of virus that it induces Outlook or OE to send to
most of the folks in the standard system address book - a facility not
available in TB by that route anyway?

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Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later

2001-01-21 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, at 17:06:42 [GMT -0800], Abigail Marshall wrote:

AM In a very OLD version of Netscape mail - probably Netscape 3, - it was
AM possible to configure the mail program to not download messages over a
AM certain user-specified size. For example, if the user specified that
AM messages over 100k would not be downloaded, then the messages would
AM only be partially downloaded, along with a message saying that the
AM remainder had been left on the server, and Netscape 3 would skip ahead
AM to the next message. Then you could go back later to retrieve the
AM balance of the partially downloaded message.

Do you mean "Account/Properties/Mail management/Receive header only if
message size is greater than"? Set the spinner next to that prompt to
the maximum size that doesn't need your attention. I can't say how
well this works, as I have a broadband connection and don't use this
feature. This isn't a substitute for a clean skip or cancel of the
transfer where the already downloaded messages are handled properly on
the server, but it should help some and is already here.

Mike Yetto

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Re[2]: Like Notepad with word-wrap...

2001-01-21 Thread OK3

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Saturday, January 20, 2001, Jonas T Larsson wrote to Lija about
Like Notepad with word-wrap...:

JTL There are potential problems sending messages with 1000 chars/line
JTL since this is the maximum line length specified in some RFC. Supposedly
JTL some servers will barf on those mails. This is something I picked up
JTL from a PMMail mailing list where the subject came up.

Some servers cuts lines longer than 1000 chars -- not wraps, but cuts.

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Re[3]: small stupidity

2001-01-21 Thread OK3

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Sunday, January 21, 2001, Avenarius wrote to Januk Aggarwal about
small stupidity:

A Which is a sad arrangement. Quick-search seems useless, has never
A worked properly for me.
Why?

A For   the   benefit  of  one  apparently  disfunctinal  quicksearch
A function, 25 potential one-key shortcuts have been made impossible.
A 8-(
Why do you think that those will work properly for you?

A Let's hope that quicksearch disappears in Version 2.0,
I  hope  it will not, because I do use it and it works properly for me
and it is one of advantages of TB! against other MUA for me.

A or  that  it gets assigned its own absurd keyboard shortcut such as
A CTRL+=.
It will be not a QUICK search.

A The  =  is in the upper row of keys on the English and in the lower
A row  of  keys on the German keyboard -- which drives me crazy, as I
A need  to  use  the  keyboard  combination  every once in a while to
A retrieve addresses from the Address Book.
Use  nicknames,  you  will  not have to use any key combinations other
than ';' and Enter.



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Problems with the french apostrophe!

2001-01-21 Thread Francis Segond

Hello,

  I write mail mail with The Bat (ver. 1.49) mainly in French.

  The spelling option using the SSCEngine does not work properly with
  the "apostrophe" (i.e. l'eau. The use of the apostrophe is VERY
  common in French and The Bat reports everytime a misspelling)

  After contacting the Wintertree web site, I understand that the
  "SplitContractedWords" property of the SSCEngine should be set to
  "1".

  Could you tell me how to enable this property?

  I  enclose the description of the problem as shown in the Wintertree
  page :

 Problems using French or Italian dictionaries
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 Product: Sentry Spelling Checker Engine (all SDKs)

 Version: any

 Problem: When using Wintertree Software's French or Italian 
dictionaries, most contracted words (e.g., quell'anno, l'eau)
 are reported as misspellings, and the suggestions offerred have a 
space incorrectly inserted between the contracted words (e.g., quell'
 anno, l' eau).

 Solution: When using Wintertree Software's French or Italian 
dictionaries, the SSCE_SPLIT_CONTRACTED_WORDS_OPT must be enabled. If 
you are using the SSCE Windows SDK, the SplitContractedWords property 
should be set to 1.

Thank you for your quick reply.

Regards,
  Francis Segond

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Re[2]: Editting Received Messages

2001-01-21 Thread OK3

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Monday, January 22, 2001, Januk Aggarwal wrote to Jim Steiner about
Editting Received Messages:

JA 2) Export the message, edit, and import back.  This is more tedious.

Destroys only received time.

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Re: Editting Received Messages

2001-01-21 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello OK3,

Historians believe that Mon, 22 Jan 2001 at 11:49:59 GMT +0400 was when,
OK3 [O] typed the following:

JA 2) Export the message, edit, and import back.  This is more tedious.

O Destroys only received time.

IIRC, that's not true when you export as .msg files.

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