Re: uninstall please

2001-06-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Ronald!

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 4:04:28 AM you wrote:

 Win 2000 Pro has some flaws in common with WinMe maybe ? :biggrin:

Why not?

But back to topic, since Daf said TB! is not in his Add/Remove, here
is the other way:

1. Close TB!

2. Delete the folder you installed TB! to

3. Open the programme regedit.exe - or the appropriate registry
editing place on your machine - and search for the key tree RIT

4. Delete the whole tree

5. For good measure you can now search for all places TB! is coming up
(i.e. associations) and delete them

6. To get rid of everything connected to TB! you now only have to
delete all shortcuts to TB! you or the installer created



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Lost folders

2001-06-19 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Monday, June 18, 2001 at 10:03:33 PM you wrote (at least in part):

MDP You can move the folders into the MAIL\ folder hierarchy and then use
MDP the undocumented Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L hot key to recover missing
MDP folders.

*DAMN* (sorry :-( ) why's this key-combo undocumented? *g*
I just wanted to write to TB's UDL because of a problem yesterday appeared as
I read THIS information, that I could have needed yesterday :-(

OK, the problem:

My girlfried is using TB! for a while now. Although she's not as firm with TB!
as me, she's not dumb :-)
Yesterday she called me to tell me two mail folders have been disappeared.
Suddenly. Without her interaction. the day before yesterday they were both
visible in the account-tree, yesterday she missed them.
Although she randomly does things she can't exactly explain (I've never
clicked this link! ... you know *g*) she's ABSOLUTELY sure she did NOT delete
this folders. This sounds reasonable, as TB! let you confirm before deleting a
folder.
The 'magic' thing is: not only the folders in the account tree disappeared, I
wasn't able to find ANY folder with a similar name on the harddisk. Neither in
the mail base dir, nor somewhere else on her harddisk.
There were two filters I created to automatically store incoming messages to
that two folders ... they were not deleted, BUT: the destination folder in
BOTH were 'Inbox' what was not what I've set them to.
I ran through every single folder in her three account and browsed deleted
messages: I did not found them :-( She did not made a Compress on any
folder, so all in all it's very mysterious.
She used v1.49 as she did not allowed me to update her TB! *g*
I know the information I have and give in this mail aren't enough to track
down a bug, but did something similar already happened to somebody else???

Marck: do you know where Ctrl+Alt+Shift+L looks for lost folders?
Could this help to re-find them?

Thx for any comment, and if there's any help: too :-)

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Re: AB pecularities: different AB's

2001-06-19 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Monday, June 18, 2001, 6:25:20 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 As I stated above I still don't know why it did not work the easy
   way. And I don't even begin to have a slight hint why it now works.

Here's another one:

Add a new contact in your address book, check the check-box for
showing this new contact in the menu that opens when clicking
the down-arrow next to the new message button, sometimes the new
contact will show sometimes not, so the user has to un-check the
check box and then check it again and this time the new contact
will show in the above mentioned menu.

Well, X-Files behavior IMO.

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Re: AB pecularities: different AB's

2001-06-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Silviu!

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 11:54:07 AM you wrote:

 Add a new contact in your address book, check the check-box for
 showing this new contact in the menu that opens when clicking
 the down-arrow next to the new message button, sometimes the new
 contact will show sometimes not, so the user has to un-check the
 check box and then check it again and this time the new contact
 will show in the above mentioned menu.

You sometimes even have to re-start TB!.

Maybe AB stands for Abnormal Behaviour?


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Files ending in .msg

2001-06-19 Thread Michael S. Greenbaum

I'm using TB Christmas edition and have been since, well, Christmas.

I just got a message this morning when I opened TB telling me that
files with the extension .MSG were not associated with The Bat! and
asking me if I wanted them to be.

I said No, but was this the right answer?  Should those files be
associated with The Bat?

Thanks.


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Re: Files ending in .msg

2001-06-19 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 4:43:01 PM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

 I said No, but was this the right answer?  Should those files be
 associated with The Bat?

Well if TB! is your regular mail program, and from what you
wrote this seems to be the case, it should. Those .msg files
come attached from the ISPs server for example if something
happened and email could not get to it's destination. This is
only an example there may be other situations when you receive
.msg files attached...

So, the answer is: Yes.

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Re: Memo area to describe Rules/Filters?

2001-06-19 Thread Thomas F

Hello Tim,

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:49:38 -0400 GMT (19/06/2001, 22:49 +0800 GMT),
Tim Musson wrote:

   Is there a Memo area in the Sorting Office for individual Rules?  So
   I can keep notes about what the rule does?  How do the rest of you
   note what the rule does?

I make the name of the filter meaningful.

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Re: TB and PCCillin AV (InoculateIT)

2001-06-19 Thread Thomas F

Hello andrew,

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:24:27 +0100 GMT (17/06/2001, 08:24 +0800 GMT),
andrew wrote:

TF You don't need to integrate much. Just activate Realtime Scan in
TF PC-Cillin.

 I use InoculateIT would the procedure be the same? or is there a
 better way.

I don't know, as I have never used InoculateIT.

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Re: OT? The bat and HP G95

2001-06-19 Thread Thomas F

Hello andrew,

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:50:19 +0100 GMT (15/06/2001, 20:50 +0800 GMT),
andrew wrote:

 But one question which is really more about HP software than The Bat!.
 HP has a 'scan to email' function but I can't seem to point it at The
 BAT! I wondered if anyone else had G85/95 and had succeeded in achieving
 this?

I don't know what we have in the office; it's like a fax machine, but
the recipient can also be an email address instead of a fax number. It
will then scan the docs and send it to the email address as an
attached .tif file. The main message is a standard text, saying that
you can open the attached message with an application that you can
download at www.blablabla. I just send the fax to my own email
address, and can forward it with TB.

Maybe your HP does soemthing similar as our Internet Fax Machine?

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Re: Problems with new version download 1.53bis

2001-06-19 Thread Thomas F

Hello David,

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:55:15 -0400 GMT (16/06/2001, 02:55 +0800 GMT),
David Robert Austen wrote:

 I was very happy to see the new version 1.53bis, but installing it has
 been a small disaster. I believe I had the most recent previous
 version of The Bat and so I overwrote that.

 FTP and HTTP version downloads both give the same result.

 Can somebody suggest something?

Saw your message twice, but no reply. So I take a wild guess: are you
downloading with Netscape? Netscape is known to cause problems when
used for downloading compressed files.

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Re[3]: Files ending in .msg

2001-06-19 Thread Gary

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Hello Jan,

Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 09:48:41, you wrote:

JR Hello Dierk,

JR On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 16:30:51 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
JR following in regards to 'Files ending in .msg':

Dierk [...] you can re-associate all relevant file
Dierk extensions within TB!; you don't need to edit the registry.
Dierk [...]

JR   Can't you also use Windows file associations for this task?


Yes, you can.  It is easier to go OptionsPreferencesApplications and
then click the four boxes and then click Associate Now.

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Re[2]: Memo area to describe Rules/Filters?

2001-06-19 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Thomas,

Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 10:56:51 AM, you wrote:

   Is there a Memo area in the Sorting Office for individual Rules?
   So I can keep notes about what the rule does?  How do the rest of
   you note what the rule does?

TF I make the name of the filter meaningful.

I do also, but my latest rule it's not enough.
The rule is to color mail for a set of users.  Not a problem -
name=Color.  Now the problem the user's mail address does not indicate
who it is!  For example Tom's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I had a memo field, I could have Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED].

A thought, Can I put   Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]   in the String
field?.  Yes I can!  Cool, that covers this problem, but I
still think the Memo filed would be nice...

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Re: Automatic mail check

2001-06-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Plop740,

On 19 June 2001 at  07:24:56 + (which was 08:24 where I live)
Plop740 wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

P Well, after a few posts, I could see that I am not the only one to
P have this problem: Automatic mail check doesn't work.

This is strange because it certainly appears to be only a few users
out of hundreds. We need to establish a commonality of configuration
to determine why it affects some and not others.

P Strange is the silence of the development team !

Not so strange - they are only on the Beta list :-).

P Will they fix this bug, or not ?

P A reply would be greatly appreciated !

Those affected by the problem would need to formulate a sure fire
recipe for making the problem happen. Until there is a fully
replicable bug report, RIT labs are completely stuck when it comes to
fixing such problems.

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Re[2]: TB and PCCillin AV (InoculateIT)

2001-06-19 Thread William Moore

Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 3:53:48 PM, you wrote:

TF I don't know, as I have never used InoculateIT.

 The following is taken from the InoculateIT help text
 
 'eTrust EZ Antivirus Real-Time protection will check
 and clean any infected e-mail attachments when you open
 them. You can also Save the attachment to the hard disk
 and scan it using the main eTrust EZ Antivirus program.
 To check that Real-Time protection is enabled, move
 the pointer over the eTrust EZ Antivirus symbol in the
 system tray (located in the bottom right of the taskbar
 near the clock).'

 In case you are totally confused, InoculateIt is no
 longer available as a freebie - EZ Antivirus is the
 paid-for incarnation. Same product, cosmetic changes.

 Sorry I missed the original message and I haven't got
 the hang of these thread things yet! This silver surfer
 is not too quick ;-) HTH.

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Re: Automatic mail check

2001-06-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Plop740,

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 07:24:56 [ + GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Automatic mail check':

Plop740 Automatic mail check doesn't work.

  Does for me except for an occasional hang.

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Re: Automatic mail check

2001-06-19 Thread David Elliott

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On 19 June 2001 at 07:24:56 + (which was 08:24 where I live) Plop740
emanated these words of wisdom

 Well,  after  a  few  posts, I could see that I am not the only one to
 have this problem: Automatic mail check doesn't work.

Can you give us a bit more details?

e.g.

Operating system including service patches
How many accounts.
Are you on a LAN.
Are you dialling up to collect your email.
Settings in Accounts | Properties | Transport
Settings in Accounts | Properties | Mail management
Settings in Accounts | Properties | Options
Settings in Accounts | Properties | Network

This might help us all to help you.

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Re: Automatic mail check

2001-06-19 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 10:24:56 AM, Plop740 wrote:

 Strange is the silence of the development team !

Thay have announced they would be working on some side project
for a while, thus they will not be on the list.

 Will they fix this bug, or not ?

If it's a bug they are the exterminators :)

 A reply would be greatly appreciated !

They will as soon as they have some time :)

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Re:uninstall please

2001-06-19 Thread Paul Wilson



Tuesday, 6/19/2001, 9:32 AM
Hi Jan,
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, at 07:57:57 [GMT -0400] (which was 4:57 AM where I live) 
you wrote about:
uninstall please

JR   Well now there's a thought. I hope some tech_maven will come along
JR   to explain how TB! can be installed without showing up on windows
JR   install/un-install list. I'd be interested.

It  may  seem  strange,  but  it  does  happen. The Bat! was not in my
add/remove menu until I ran Tweakui and received the message that my
add/remove menu was munged, and would I like Tweakui to repair it.
I  clicked OK and The Bat! and about twenty other programs appeared in
the  menu.  Programs  that  had  been  deleted but unable to uninstall
because they were not in the menu.

 Talk to you later,
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Re[2]: uninstall please

2001-06-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Paul, Thanks for this information.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 09:44:43 [ -0700 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'uninstall please':

Paul [...] The Bat! was not in my
Paul add/remove menu until I ran Tweakui and received the message that my
Paul add/remove menu was munged, and would I like Tweakui to repair it.
Paul I  clicked OK and The Bat! and about twenty other programs appeared in
Paul the  menu. [...]

  I continue to learn. Can I assume Tweakui is a 3rd party appl? If
  so, can u point me to a URL so I can read about it? TIA

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Re: uninstall please

2001-06-19 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 7:58:06 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

 I continue to learn. Can I assume Tweakui is a 3rd party appl? If
   so, can u point me to a URL so I can read about it? TIA

It's a free tool from M$. It should be on your windows CD.

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Re: Problems with new version download 1.53bis

2001-06-19 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 8:01:31 PM, Igbar Foosenhopper wrote:

TF Netscape is known to cause problems when
TF used for downloading compressed files.

Really ? I thought it only did strange thing to CR/LF's in text
docs.

Heh, live and learn.

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Re: uninstall please

2001-06-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Jan!

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 6:58:06 PM you wrote:

   I continue to learn. Can I assume Tweakui is a 3rd party appl?

It's a non-official utility by MS itself, part of the PowerToys. For
Windows 98 you will find it somewhere on the installation CD, for 95
it is somewhere on their downloads page (I have forgotten where, but
their search function is not bad). For 2000 and ME I you will find it
on their site, maybe even on the CD's.

Very handy, very good and absolutely essential for a lot of options
you can also reach through registry editing.

Another good utility  (at least for 95) is something called
W95gray.exe, which I can't find anymore on their page.



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Re: uninstall please

2001-06-19 Thread Thomas F

Hello Silviu,

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:22:58 +0300 GMT (20/06/2001, 01:22 +0800 GMT),
Silviu Cojocaru wrote:

 I continue to learn. Can I assume Tweakui is a 3rd party appl? If
   so, can u point me to a URL so I can read about it? TIA

 It's a free tool from M$. It should be on your windows CD.

I was recently warned that the version on the CD is buggy. Download
the fixed version (freeware!) from:

http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstation/downloads/PowerToys/Networking/NTTweakUI.asp

Even though it says NT, it is actually the version that also works
under Win98.

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Re: Files ending in .msg

2001-06-19 Thread Thomas F

Hello Dierk,

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:36:33 +0200 GMT (20/06/2001, 01:36 +0800 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

 You need the new version (12.53bis). There you go to
 Options/Preferences/Applications.

You're ahead of time. The latest is 1.53d. Verseion 12.xx is not due
until February 2023 (if they keep the schedule, that is).

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S/MIME question

2001-06-19 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

when I decrypt a message sent to somebody else and meant for decryption
by me and the recipient I noticed all headers (To:, From:, Date:, etc.)
appear twice. Is this normal behavior?

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Re[2]: uninstall please

2001-06-19 Thread David Elliott

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Dear Dierk

On 19 June 2001 at 19:33:06 +0200 (which was 18:33 where I live) Dierk
Haasis graced us with these comments

 Another good utility  (at least for 95) is something called W95gray.exe,
 which I can't find anymore on their page.

try

http://www.ccaa.edu/~softdist/updates/

or

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/grayscal/smoother.htm

HTH

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TheBat! 1.52f stopped checking automatically for new mail

2001-06-19 Thread Reuven

I have the program set up to check email at various intervals (every 2
to 5 minutes),depending on the account. Recently it stopped doing it,
and it only checks when I hit ALT- F2, of manually check the account
individually. Did anyone else have the problem? Any solutions?


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Re: Fw: The Bat! - information request (uninstall)

2001-06-19 Thread andrew

Hi Daf,

 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, at 14:38:23 [GMT -0500] (which was 20:38 in London) you wrote:

 for some weird reason, the uninstall
 program was not included in the previous 1.53 releases. Please excuse
 us for such inconvenience...

sounds like this explains everything then.

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Re[3]: TB and PCCillin AV (InoculateIT)

2001-06-19 Thread andrew

Hi William,

 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, at 17:24:24 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:24 in London) you wrote:

WM 'eTrust EZ Antivirus Real-Time protection will check and clean any
WM infected e-mail attachments when you open them.

so any attachment I open via bat should be checked by the software?
Would this include MIME format as someone wrote on this thread?

WM You can also Save the attachment to the hard disk and scan it
WM using the main eTrust EZ Antivirus program.

But this is probably a safer way because it will def check these
files?

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Fw: The Bat! - information request

2001-06-19 Thread Daf

I received this from Bat! support.
Thanks for all the help!
Daffydd Morgan

- Original Message - 
From: Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Daf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: The Bat! - information request


 Dear Daf,
 
  How do you uninstall this program?!
  I doesn't appear in my add/remove programs box.
 
 You can download 1.53d from The Bat! official home page -
 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/ - for some weird reason, the uninstall
 program was not included in the previous 1.53 releases. Please excuse
 us for such inconvenience...
 
 
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Re[2]: TheBat! 1.52f stopped checking automatically for new mail

2001-06-19 Thread Plop740

Hi there,

Let's see that...

DE Plop740 [EMAIL PROTECTED] has reported it earlier today. I have asked him
DE for more information. The information that I asked for was.

DE Operating system including service patches

Win98SE, Russian

DE How many accounts.

About 100

DE Are you on a LAN.

No

DE Are you dialling up to collect your email.

No, I connect before (BTW I am connected 24/7 by a dialup line!)

DE Settings in Accounts | Properties | Transport

Depends of the accounts.
All POP3 protocols (Authen regular or APOP, it depends)
All Delivery deferred

DE Settings in Accounts | Properties | Mail management

Delete mail from server, nothing more checked
Some  standard  ports  OR  some  special ports when connecting through
tunnels

DE Settings in Accounts | Properties | Options

For all accounts, Checked:
Periodical settings (between 10 and 200 min)
Mark messages as read: 2 sec
Max log file 20 ko
Empty trash on ext
Confirm immediate sending
Enable PGP

DE Settings in Accounts | Properties | Network

Nothing.

DE Now  that there is more that one person with this problem we might
DE be able to reproduce this bug and therefore help RIT to kill it.

I  precise  that  using  1.51  it  was  working fine, and as soon as I
installed 1.53bis, it stopped.

I  tried  all  configurations with the Options/Networkadmin, nothing
changed.

Regards,
HI

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Re[3]: Fw: The Bat! - information request (uninstall) still mailto: problems

2001-06-19 Thread andrew

Hi Ben,

 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, at 17:41:28 [GMT -0400] (which was 22:41 in London) you wrote:

BM I did notice that 153d still has one major bug. On the first use of a
BM mailto: from a web page, it still pops up 2 instances of TB!. On later
BM mailto: attempts it only brings up one.

i think a previous thread has dealt with this issue.


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Re[5]: TB and PCCillin AV (InoculateIT)

2001-06-19 Thread andrew

Hi William,

 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, at 22:30:47 [GMT +0100] (which was 22:30 in London) you wrote:

WM I also use the 'Mailsafe' feature of Zone Alarm. The
WM belt and braces approach.

I actually had that on without realising it ;-)

Andrew

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Re[3]: quote only high lighted text

2001-06-19 Thread andrew

Hi andrew,

 On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, at 13:52:17 [GMT +0100] (which was 13:52 in London) you wrote:

NA Add the %WRAPPED Macro to your
NA Reply Template and you're off to the races! :o)

I wanted to include %wrapped as a cookie because somewhere on the list
it was mentioned that this makes global updates much easier.

%COOKIE=J:\the bat new\wrap.txt was inserted into the template and
contained a text file with just '%wrapped' in it. But when i tried a
new message the '%wrapped' was shown in the body of the email - should
it be invisible?

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Re: quote only high lighted text

2001-06-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi andrew,

On 19 June 2001 at  23:16:48 +0100 (which was 23:16 where I live)
andrew wrote to andrew and made these points:

a %COOKIE=J:\the bat new\wrap.txt was inserted into the template
a and contained a text file with just '%wrapped' in it. But when i
a tried a new message the '%wrapped' was shown in the body of the
a email - should it be invisible?

:-) %WRAPPED='' is a macro which takes a string (the one in quotes)
and places it, wrapped, into the message body. %WRAPPED is not a
state macro which affect subsequent actions. If your wrap.txt file
contained a %WRAPPED='The text you want wrapped' string, then
perhaps the %WRAPPED keyword may not appear. OTOH, I don't think that
cookies are parsed for macros when included, so it's a bit of a
non-runner anyway... unless anyone knows otherwise...

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Re: quote only high lighted text

2001-06-19 Thread David van Zuijlekom

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Hello andrew,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 23:16:48 +0100, andrew [a] wrote
concerning 'quote only high lighted text':

a I wanted to include %wrapped as a cookie because somewhere on the
a list it was mentioned that this makes global updates much easier.

a %COOKIE=J:\the bat new\wrap.txt was inserted into the template
a and contained a text file with just '%wrapped' in it. But when i
a tried a new message the '%wrapped' was shown in the body of the
a email - should it be invisible?

LOL. To insert cookies into a message from a textfile, you have to put
the taglines into the textfile. You placed '%wrapped' in the textfile
so everytimes it outputs '%wrapped'. Instead you have to place
'%wrapped' in your template, like this:
%WRAPPED='%COOKIE=J:\the bat new\cookies.txt'

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Re: clicked something and got box of possible email software

2001-06-19 Thread andrew

Hi andrew,

 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, at 20:59:20 [GMT +0100] (which was 20:59 in London) you wrote:

a Hi TBUDL,

a   clicked something and got box of possible email software, TB,
a   Outlook, AOL etc that's on my pc. I was in the message list window
a   and only had my hand on the mouse - i've never seen it before what
a   was it? what did i do?

I think this was actually powerpro which produced the box which i
installed at allie's suggestion ;-) so nothing to do with bat

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Re[2]: old accounts not being recognized when i graft them

2001-06-19 Thread Charlie Laidlaw

Hi Marck,

Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 6:03:33 AM, you wrote:

CL Hello, i've got two old accounts with some messages in them, that
CL aren't being recognised(not showing up in the Bat program), despite
CL all the places i've tried grafted them to in Windows Explorer(under
CL Mail  beside). They might be from an older version (1.41 or so?).
CL Any ideas for recovering them?

MDP You can move the folders into the MAIL\ folder hierarchy and then use
MDP the undocumented Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L hot key to recover missing
MDP folders.

that worked perfectly!  Except, they just appeared as regular folders,
not as separate accounts with transport details etc. Thats ok, i can
set up the accounts again, and just move over the folders to them.
Its good to have them back.

thanks mate,
charlie

MDP Or you could simply import the old message base file using the Tools
MDP | Import option to do the job.

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Re[2]: quote only high lighted text

2001-06-19 Thread andrew

Hi David,

 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, at 00:43:30 [GMT +0200] (which was 23:43 in London) you wrote:

DvZ Hello andrew,

DvZ On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 23:16:48 +0100, andrew [a] wrote
DvZ concerning 'quote only high lighted text':

a I wanted to include %wrapped as a cookie because somewhere on the
a list it was mentioned that this makes global updates much easier.

a %COOKIE=J:\the bat new\wrap.txt was inserted into the template
a and contained a text file with just '%wrapped' in it. But when i
a tried a new message the '%wrapped' was shown in the body of the
a email - should it be invisible?

DvZ LOL. To insert cookies into a message from a textfile, you have to put
DvZ the taglines into the textfile. You placed '%wrapped' in the textfile
DvZ so everytimes it outputs '%wrapped'. Instead you have to place
DvZ '%wrapped' in your template, like this:
DvZ %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=J:\the bat new\cookies.txt'

Glad I'm raising a smile anyway ;-)

Let me start again on this one... below is the reply template I
currently have. I now have my third mouse button set to f4 so when i
select text and click it it only sends that info.

Nick said
Add the %WRAPPED Macro to your Reply Template and you're off to the races! :o)

so where would i put that in the template?

(and while we're at it cookies then are only plain text to be inserted
in each mail selected - ie. i could cookie my web address, or a sig?)

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%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS
 On%SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] (which was %OTIME in London) you 
wrote:

%quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(\n*-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s*.*roups.*~-~.*-*_-)|\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3

%Cursor

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Unnerving sigs

2001-06-19 Thread Karin Spaink

This has been bothering me for quite some time:

I have taken the time and effort to build quite a large
collection of quotes that I like and love, and most of the
short ones have by now found their way into my cookie file,
and are thus randomly appended under my mail.

Randomly? Really? All too often I wonder. All too often I
giggle because the - randomly appended - sig matches the
subject matter all too closely, sometimes even too the point
that I'd rather manually select another sig in order to
escape possible accusations that I was adding insult to
injury / was giving a bland summary / etc.

I *do* understand that I select my sigs myself, and that
thus they will reflect upon me. But I do wonder about
coincidence. How often does it happen that somebody mails
you out of the blue about suicide, you respond, and TB
happens to select a sig that relates to suicide? In my
case, that happens two out of three times.

Really, it is unnerving. I have a collection of 100+ cookies
and TB selects an appropriate one more often than is
called for. I'm starting to suspect some kind of NSA
paradigm at the heart of TB, or telepathy, or whatever.
Anyway, I *am* unnerved.

And of course, *this* time TB chose an innocent one just to
disprove me. I am freaking out.


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Re: Unnerving sigs

2001-06-19 Thread Karin Spaink

On 20-06-2001 at 02:15, andrew kindly wrote:
 Hi Karin,

KS And of course, *this* time TB chose an innocent one just to
KS disprove me. I am freaking out.

 'even paranoids have enemies' ;-) Maybe it is all a conspiracy just
 to drive you insane

I simply replied to you, just for testing purposes, and see
what happens? Look down and read my sig:


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HTML files trouble

2001-06-19 Thread Paul F. Siebern

Hello TBUDL,

I've been having a problem with receiving HTML messages since Bat version
152f.

The files download, but nothing shows up except the From, To, Subject,
Time etc. That's it nothing else no message at all. Then if I close The
Bat and reopen it the whole message is there.

It also will not filter these mails just dumps them in the 'IN' box.

I'm running Norton Anti Virus 2001, but that has never caused a problem in
the past, so I am really at a loss.

Has any one else run into anything like this?

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Re: HTML files trouble

2001-06-19 Thread Dennis J. Alcover

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: MD5

Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:57 PM
Paul,

As a matter of fact, I've been chasing this for a while. If you open
the message, is everything blank (including To/From/Subject)?

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- -Original Message-

Paul,

Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 9:10:15 PM, you wrote:

PFS Hello TBUDL,

PFS I've been having a problem with receiving HTML messages since Bat version
PFS 152f.

PFS The files download, but nothing shows up except the From, To, Subject,
PFS Time etc. That's it nothing else no message at all. Then if I close The
PFS Bat and reopen it the whole message is there.

PFS It also will not filter these mails just dumps them in the 'IN' box.

PFS I'm running Norton Anti Virus 2001, but that has never caused a problem in
PFS the past, so I am really at a loss.

PFS Has any one else run into anything like this?

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ZvY5a7E8PR/OZ42teFnwEboRA0eFqh/KTao9tR+1YQOdKlkRH2DQ8PDMkF3j6hJT
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Re: Unnerving sigs

2001-06-19 Thread Thomas F

Hi Karin,

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:53:44 +0200GMT (20/06/2001, 07:53 +0800GMT),
Karin Spaink wrote:

KS Randomly? Really? All too often I wonder. All too often I
KS giggle because the - randomly appended - sig matches the
KS subject matter all too closely,

I confirm this. (No, I don't use cookies on this office computer, but
at home.) I challenged Maxxx to run a test on the theroy of the
cookies being chosen in relation to the contents (or subject) of a
mail, as he critised the randomiser than randomises in a
non-mathematical way. I am still waiting for the results. ;-)

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Re[2]: HTML files trouble

2001-06-19 Thread Paul F. Siebern

Hi Dennis J. Alcover,

On 6/19/01 at 21:58:49GMT -0500 (which was 7:58 PM where I live) Dennis J.
Alcover wrote regarding the subject of: HTML files trouble

D As a matter of fact, I've been chasing this for a while. If you open
D the message, is everything blank (including To/From/Subject)?

That's it exactly! Very strange behavior. I've even gone so far as to do a
complete uninstall , including the registry and reinstalling from scratch,
problem still shows up.

PFS I've been having a problem with receiving HTML messages since Bat version
PFS 152f.

PFS The files download, but nothing shows up except the From, To, Subject,
PFS Time etc. That's it nothing else no message at all. Then if I close The
PFS Bat and reopen it the whole message is there.

PFS It also will not filter these mails just dumps them in the 'IN' box.


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Re[3]: HTML files trouble

2001-06-19 Thread Dennis J. Alcover

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: MD5

Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:24 PM
Paul,

Sorry for you, but I'm glad I'm not the only one. I've yet to find an
answer, een after working on it with RIT support for a couple of weeks
now. I always end up reverting to 1.51. All the messages look OK
there.

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having both at once. -- Lazarus Long


- -Original Message-

Paul,

Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 10:14:44 PM, you wrote:

PFS Hi Dennis J. Alcover,

PFS On 6/19/01 at 21:58:49GMT -0500 (which was 7:58 PM where I live) Dennis J.
PFS Alcover wrote regarding the subject of: HTML files trouble

D As a matter of fact, I've been chasing this for a while. If you open
D the message, is everything blank (including To/From/Subject)?

PFS That's it exactly! Very strange behavior. I've even gone so far as to do a
PFS complete uninstall , including the registry and reinstalling from scratch,
PFS problem still shows up.

PFS I've been having a problem with receiving HTML messages since Bat version
PFS 152f.

PFS The files download, but nothing shows up except the From, To, Subject,
PFS Time etc. That's it nothing else no message at all. Then if I close The
PFS Bat and reopen it the whole message is there.

PFS It also will not filter these mails just dumps them in the 'IN' box.

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Version: 2.6

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Re[2]: HTML files trouble

2001-06-19 Thread Paul F. Siebern

Hi Thomas F,

On 6/19/01 at 11:08:05GMT +0800 (which was 8:08 PM where I live) Thomas F
wrote regarding the subject of: HTML files trouble

PFS The files download, but nothing shows up except the From, To, Subject,
PFS Time etc. That's it nothing else no message at all. Then if I close The
PFS Bat and reopen it the whole message is there.

T If nothing is shown, hit F9 (Message Source) and check whether there
T is some clue.

Nope nothing there.

PFS I'm running Norton Anti Virus 2001, but that has never caused a problem in
PFS the past, so I am really at a loss.

T If this reliably happens with all HTML messages, turn off NAV for a
T test and send yourself an HTML message. See whether the problem
T persists.

It seems to only happen with files that are HTML only, the ones that are
also sent as text open fine, both text and HTML

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Re: Deleting messages?

2001-06-19 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello John,

Historians believe that Wed, 20 Jun 2001 at 02:23 GMT +0100 was when,
John Hamnett [JH] typed the following:

JH   How do i delete all read messages at shutdown without removing any unread
JH   messages.

You have some options, none is exactly what you asked for, but
they're all that's available at the moment.

First you can create a *read* message filter that will delete the
message as soon as you have finished reading.

The other method is to mark all incoming messages as parked, then
unpark them once you've read the message.  You'd also set the folder
properties to only keep messages for 1 day.

Of course, your other option is to delete the messages as you read
them.  It is a bit slower, but then you have the most flexibility.

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