Re: scrolling through messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jeff, On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:09:24 -0700, you wrote these words of wisdom: ... J I'd also like to see read messages become unbolded when read, even J when there's a message under them in the thread that's unread, as J long as the thread is expanded. J Am I missing a setting for this as well? No, this is deliberate. This is the way that you'll know that all messages in the thread are not yet unread. This is especially useful when the thread isn't fully expanded and all messages not visible. To know whether or not the message is read, look at the message 'envelope' icon to see if it's marked as read. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjudsfwACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LxMQCgr9c5K2DhZGT0lxfm7NYhE73S igIAnjvsT0nHjCo6nbXb9nfz7iXSfVKb =x7JQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: scrolling through messages
Hello Jeff, On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 4:09:24 AM you wrote: J I've noticed some annoyances when scrolling through messages; is there J an easier way I haven't found? Depends on your way of doing it *g* J I use the down arrow, but when there's a closed thread (as marked by a J plus sign) I must use the right arrow. And then I must take my hand J off the keyboard to scroll through long messages. Is there an easier J way? I don't know if this is easier but I'm used to use 'Ctrl+right-arrow' for this. This way threads got automatically expanded because this keyboard shortcut jumps to next unread message, wether it is depp in a thread of at top. J It's actually easier for me, anyway, in Netscape, where I can J use the mouse to read, to scroll, and to click on the down-arrow. I use the scroll wheel too if I'm to lazy to use the keyboard, works great. I don't even have to shift the focus from message list to message body for this (btw: I'm using MS Intelli Explorer) To use the keyboard for scrolling through messages I use 'Alt+down-arrow'. The negative aspect is you need two hand for this, the positive is you don't have to change the focus to message body or use the mouse. J I'd also like to see read messages become unbolded when read, even J when there's a message under them in the thread that's unread, as long J as the thread is expanded. that's not implemented I I for myself don't think it is necessary. There's a nice column 'Message Flags' you can activate (unless it is already done) in message list. This column shows a yellow letter when the message itself is unread and a white envelope if the message is read. So if a message has an envelope plus is is bold there're unread messages in thread. HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) At first there was nothing. Then God said 'Let there be light!' Then there was still nothing. But you could see it. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: TB! External Programs / RTF Editor
Douglas, On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, at 00:01:30 [GMT -0600] (which was 11:31 AM where I live) you wrote: DH (Question B): ¿Can anyone recommend a good, compact resource DH frugal share or freeware rich text editor that I could use for that DH purpose? Check out Atalantis from http://www.rssol.com/en/html/welcome.htm. Its a very neat s/w. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Tuesday, September 11, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Mail Despatcher (was: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - losing mail)
Hello William, On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:38 GMT +0100, a creature mimicking William Moore [WM] wrote: WM Unchecking 'Combined Delivery' solved the problem and another facet of WM TB! has been revealed. Thank you. It's not a problem, just that two things were happening at the same time. The dispatcher is simply a second way to retrieve messages from the server. When there are no messages on the server, there is nothing for the dispatcher to do, so it doesn't appear. The combined delivery option played no role in that, it merely caused some confusion. With that option checked *two* things happen, but as stated above, one of them was redundant. That means that the dispatcher and the 'Combined Delivery' option can be used together with no ill effect. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A All science is either physics or stamp collecting. -- E. Rutherford -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: TB! External Programs / RTF Editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Douglas, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 7:01:30 AM, you wrote: DH ¿Can anyone recommend a good, compact resource frugal share or DH freeware rich text editor that I could use for opening files saved DH by TB! as text files and doing any highligting needed? http://at.omic.co.uk/powernotepad.htm try here for some alternatives - -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] London UK Join the Power Tools Discussion: - Recommended software: http://at.omic.co.uk/powertools.htm Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBO54LESaOomOViTk3EQIyOACg28FkErTerKEfZInzNnEBY/afILAAoPjY hfhxVQaxCZpHiD4Xb2uFh8RQ =gslQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - losing mail
Hello Assad everyone who tried to help me. On Monday, September 10, 2001 22:08:07 [ +0400 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! V1.54 Beta/7 - losing mail': Assad Sometimes you have this problem when your Assad mailbox is full and mails to you are Assad bouncing back. I finally narrowed it down to one* filter was somehow de-activated. Whew. It was making me crazy. Thank you all for your support. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/7/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
!OT because of deep concern!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL Members! About 20 minutes ago I heard of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. I deeply hope none of our US friends is in any way personally affected. And I though throwing stones at school girls was the low point of this month. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wer sich nicht verbiegen läßt, zerbricht! (Aleks Papst) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO54MmPTo1oA8g8dLEQJOAgCeK0lZMHGvZkjbgTNATyYXAqqijrEAoOn1 +8CCJDHUH9IJe1YT4s11psXV =UPHX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 3:39:48 PM, you wrote: JR I pray no one, or anyone you know, was caught in JR todays' terrorism attacks in New York Wash, DC. JR Hopefully. I would just like to echo all these heartfelt comments, and I wish to offer our condolences to the victims and their families in these most awful times. In the year 2001 it seems the barbarian is still sadly very much amongst us. - -- Respectfully, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 iQA/AwUBO55dE4uowXdtlnXzEQIuFACeN5o7muzHBlgwwuovcVd2yJHSFWgAnAq8 TzGmadNCkpMz8srnL0XkvkEA =ebPD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Attachment problem frown
Hello Jeff, Monday, September 10, 2001, 8:54:14 PM, you wrote: J I still don't understand incoming attachments. I've set up J Account | Properties | Files Directories | Separate, and J chosen a separate directory, but incoming attachments still J seem to be part of the email; I can't find them when doing a J windows file search. The change you make will only effect attachments received from this point on. Are you looking for separately stored attachment files for attachments you received *before* making the change? -- Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
JR I pray no one, or anyone you know, was caught in JR todays' terrorism attacks in New York Wash, DC. One of my best friends was going to his office in WTC just before the building crashed down... I wish anything like this will never repeat and the counter-measures will not bring new innocent casualties. Still shocked... -- Stefan -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: !OT because of deep concern!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 5:07:35 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: And I though throwing stones at school girls was the low point of this month. Dierk, agreed. This may be the peak of how low terrorist acts go. And if Oussama Ben Laden is really the one behind this well I think that torture should be back in jail regimes just for cases like this. I am just sick of how much carnage has been done in the course of our history just for the name of God/Allah. My condolences to the people that have lost someone dear in this coward attack. - -- Speak the truth at all times. When necessary, use words. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Member of the PGP-Basics, Encryption Help Team iD8DBQE7nnmz8WBGNj3ut+0RAkKdAKCjjmVVITjhSDNzkrprqKWe343YwQCfQtzr eJmwZutPtRPWmOvpnDWdNPw= =pKgm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi daveiw, On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:50:48 +0100, you wrote these words of wisdom: ... dcn I would just like to echo all these heartfelt comments, Same here. I've been in shock all day and still am having difficulty assimilating the days events. My heartfelt condolences to all those affected directly by these bombings. I have an uncle that lives in Washington but haven't been able to contact him. I also have relatives in New York. sigh Life is so fragile and peace in our lives can be so suddenly ripped out of our grasp. When will people learn that this isn't the way? - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuefRoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+J+KACdEeLaURTK7k35c4ETA+qAmiji 2vQAn3W8NjZ1vgvwIDlTeBGikfe6/C1x =mknY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
When will people learn that this isn't the way? Perhaps only after _everyone_ is dead. Mike... -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
JR I pray no one, or anyone you know, was caught in I have a brother who works in and lives near Manhattan. But so far I don't know anything. Hopefully, he's all right. Best regards, rmgb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Allie, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 10:07:36 PM, you wrote: ACM Same here. I've been in shock all day and still am having difficulty ACM assimilating the days events. The reaction of the vast majority. What happened was an atrocity, all those dead people. One thing that disgusted me was when the news here in the UK showed scenes of Palestinians celebrating. ACM My heartfelt condolences to all those affected directly by these ACM bombings. I have an uncle that lives in Washington but haven't ACM been able to contact him. I also have relatives in New York. I hope your relatives are alright. This is a terrible time for you. ACM When will people learn that this isn't the way? Never, particularly since the reaction of many Americans on NG's is to 'nuke whoever is responsible'. Given the amount of countries with nuclear weapons that would be a big mistake and could possibly lead to a global nuclear war. -- Kevin Using TB!1.54 Beta/8 on Windows XP RC 1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
On 11-09-2001 at 22:37, Stefan Tanurkov kindly wrote: One of my best friends was going to his office in WTC just before the building crashed down... It seems that we all know people who work there, either intimate or from a distance. It's evidence of how tightly knit the world is becoming. I wish anything like this will never repeat and the counter-measures will not bring new innocent casualties. That is the one thing that I fear most: Bush wanting to retaliate, security and surveillance heigthened, olitical repression rising... Still shocked... Yes. It's unbelievable. - K - -- It's not easy, but the easy things I have done already. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stefan, On 11 September 2001 at 23:37:17 +0300 (which was 21:37 where I live) Stefan Tanurkov wrote to Jan Rifkinson and made these points: JR I pray no one, or anyone you know, was caught in JR todays' terrorism attacks in New York Wash, DC. ST One of my best friends was going to his office in WTC just before ST the building crashed down... ST I wish anything like this will never repeat and the ST counter-measures will not bring new innocent casualties. ST Still shocked... My brother witnessed the whole scene from his office window on Wall Street. We (my family in the UK) were all very concerned, waiting to hear from him, that he was okay (which he is, thank God). That's on the personal level. On the human level - I can only express shock, horror, revulsion at the loss of innocent life on such a scale and sympathy with anyone who has been hurt or has lost someone close to them in this appalling tragedy. However aggrieved anyone may feel politically, this is a human tragedy of catastrophic proportions. As has been said, the celebrations of the Palestinians as seen on TV are distasteful and I have to say that I don't want to see anything but respect for the loss of human life here on these lists. Thank you for your comments to date. Let us pray to the powers-that-be for sanity to come to our world. Soon. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / . SB! v1.53s/iKey1000- on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7nofYOeQkq5KdzaARAtrNAKCjBFbQA44CtRzcPClxMDbrxpajgQCg4JaY OFF78pANQ5c7h3ZMpo6YGu8= =JAlS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
On 11-09-2001 at 23:33, kevin shirley kindly wrote: One thing that disgusted me was when the news here in the UK showed scenes of Palestinians celebrating. Yes, likewise. Meanwhile Dutch correspondents in the area said that they had seen *nothing* of the kind, so this was probably a carefully selected piece of 'news'. - K - -- 'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.' - Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Terrorists
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello users, We as moderators have been just as shocked as the rest of the world by what happened this morning. We're human as well, so didn't jump in with the OTs and Dead Horses during the limited discussions that appeared. I think it will be a couple of days (maybe weeks) before all the information comes to light. While I (as in me personally) will not engage in a seek and destroy mission for posters who post messages concerning these cowardly acts, I do ask that we try to keep them to a minimum and/or join TBOT (if you already haven't) to share your feelings. To anyone who had friends or family who was hurt or killed, please accept all of our deepest sympathies. There are no words to describe the myriad of emotions, and no words to soothe your pain. Please take care, and know that we stand behind you. I still think of TB users as an extended family. Thank you. Cheers, Leif Gregory - -- List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) PCWize Editor / ICQ 216395 / PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Web Site http://www.PCWize.com TB FAQ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 256MB. Tagline of the day: Just remember...if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBO56JF48+1rl81JJvEQIQTACgjlHLY/x6PuMoQ0/rDBohMJW6KHgAnici uWU0E7bO7w1bkRQrbeP5TkIA =5IQj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[3]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: Same here. I've been in shock all day and still am having difficulty assimilating the days events. The reaction of the vast majority. What happened was an atrocity, all those dead people. One thing that disgusted me was when the news here in the UK showed scenes of Palestinians celebrating. Judging this is difficult just because of totally different traditions. My heartfelt condolences to all those affected directly by these bombings. I have an uncle that lives in Washington but haven't been able to contact him. I also have relatives in New York. I hope your relatives are alright. This is a terrible time for you. So do I. When will people learn that this isn't the way? Never, particularly since the reaction of many Americans on NG's is to 'nuke whoever is responsible'. Given the amount of countries with nuclear weapons that would be a big mistake and could possibly lead to a global nuclear war. Yes. American thinking can be dangerous. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! [cut - nothing to add] On the human level - I can only express shock, horror, revulsion at the loss of innocent life on such a scale and sympathy with anyone who has been hurt or has lost someone close to them in this appalling tragedy. But tell me, was bombing Kabul a solution. Americans _do_ suffer, but this is a major mistake, IMNSHO. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
But Get Your Facts Right the US didn't bomb Kabul, it's a local battle not the US, at least not yet. PJFSr. On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:33:49 +0200, you wrote: But tell me, was bombing Kabul a solution. Americans _do_ suffer, but this is a major mistake, IMNSHO. Best Regards IronHand -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[3]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Dominik, On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 00:33:49 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Terrorist Attacks': Dominik [...] was bombing Kabul a solution. Americans Dominik _do_ suffer, but this is a major mistake [...] I think you have made terrible assumption which, in fact, is not correct. Perhaps before accusing anyone of anything under any conditions, that you wait for the truth. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/7/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[4]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Dominik, On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 00:30:04 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Terrorist Attacks': Dominik Judging this is difficult just because of Dominik totally different traditions. Not quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your country your traditions. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/7/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[4]: Terrorist Attacks
Dominic, Re: Your statement American thinking can be dangerous. I say gently, lumping all Americans together as either bad or good is a mistake. My America is a highly diverse land, rich with many cultures that live together with surprisingly little friction. Here is my own American thinking. I volunteer as a tour guide at the U.S. Capitol building. My next shift is Saturday morning. I will be there. I will be there to honor freedom, not to promote American thinking. I will honor such people who worked for freedom as Constantion Brumedi, Thaddeus Kosciusko and George Washington. I list Washington last because he would have said all men are equal, list our names in alphabetic order. Gene Gaines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sterling, Virginia USA On Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 6:30:04 PM, Dominik wrote: Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: Same here. I've been in shock all day and still am having difficulty assimilating the days events. The reaction of the vast majority. What happened was an atrocity, all those dead people. One thing that disgusted me was when the news here in the UK showed scenes of Palestinians celebrating. Judging this is difficult just because of totally different traditions. My heartfelt condolences to all those affected directly by these bombings. I have an uncle that lives in Washington but haven't been able to contact him. I also have relatives in New York. I hope your relatives are alright. This is a terrible time for you. So do I. When will people learn that this isn't the way? Never, particularly since the reaction of many Americans on NG's is to 'nuke whoever is responsible'. Given the amount of countries with nuclear weapons that would be a big mistake and could possibly lead to a global nuclear war. Yes. American thinking can be dangerous. Best Regards IronHand -- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 12:02:26 PM, Douglas wrote: DH Cabins can be sealed and armored, a foot button could activate a DH silent alarm that transmits data sending jet fighters aloft to DH prevent the highjacked plane's access to critical targets, manual DH control of the plane could be inactivated and turned over to a DH remote source that would land the plane, airlanes can be rerouted DH and the use of vital airspace restricted, passenger lists could DH be double checked for verified identities histories (maybe DH fingerprints photographs will be required), tv cameras could DH transmit who is doing what inside airplanes; airport locations DH may be removed from vital areas (w/ high speed train links DH between outlying airports and the cities). It's actually very simple. You want to fly from now on, you have to be willing to do it naked. Can't get on a plane unless you're naked. Yuki ^_^ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: !OT because of deep concern!
Dierk, On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, at 16:07:35 [GMT +0200] (which was 7:37 PM where I live) you wrote: DH About 20 minutes ago I heard of the terrorist attacks on the World DH Trade Center and the Pentagon. I must thank you for it was your mail thru which I came to know about this sad state of affairs. DH I deeply hope none of our US friends is in any way personally DH affected. My inlaws currently in USA were expected to be in NY, especially the WTC. Fortunately they had preponed the same and had finished their visit over the week end. I have been reading this thread and feel sad at comments made by some. Will keep this short. Like some body mentioned about Pendulum, there is an age old saying which I am sure will be available in every language. And that is What you sow is what you reap I would also like to share the experience of revolution of the Internet 1. I came to know this because of Dierk's E-mail 2. I could not reach my in-laws and other relatives from India. Fortunately I was able to chat with a friend of mine in Singapore, who in turn called and kept me posted. Long Live Internet Long Live America (Which gave us the net) -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
Hi Douglas, On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:02:26 -0600GMT (12/09/2001, 11:02 +0800GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: I share the feelings of shock and incomprehension of this evil deed. DH Violence begets more violence, nothing was or could have been DH accomplished by this wanton destruction, Yes, it has. You don't understand martyrdom. DH the backlash will be profound and this may spell the end of DH protective havens for terrorists anywhere in the world. I fear as much. G.W.B. is not a moderate person (as we have seen with the spyplane that was shot down over China), I just hope that the American people will not agree nuke them all (quote from another posting in this thread, quoting Amercian NG's). Up to now, there are only speculations about who us they. DH passenger lists could be double checked for verified identities DH histories (maybe fingerprints photographs will be required), tv DH cameras could transmit who is doing what inside airplanes; airport DH locations may be removed from vital areas (w/ high speed train DH links between outlying airports and the cities). Yes, something like what happened today in a free country would never happen in a dictorship, I agree. But let the terrorists win by abolishing privacy? DH Their acts have made them become too visible, too destructive to DH remain protected. They will be eliminated. You scare me. DH They have just given George W. the pretext he needs to take a hard DH stance and show what a Texan can do in a fight (which is much DH easier than negotiating). Heaven help us. f'up2tbot -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 11:45:17 AM, Thomas wrote: TF I fear as much. G.W.B. is not a moderate person (as we have seen TF with the spyplane that was shot down over China), Seems you need a history and or a geography lesson. The spy plane, and that is exactly what it was, was not shot down. It was involved in a collision caused by an incompetent Chinese fighter pilot, and it happened over international airspace, a fact not disputed even by the Chinese themselves. It was not over China. And equating this incident with G.W.B personally shows a complete lack of understanding of the American system at all. These flights have gone on for decades, under every single American administration, left or right. TF You scare me. You scare me too if you think that anything other than thoroughly traumatizing both the perpetrators and the societies that shelter them will stop this. The cost needs to demonstrably outweigh the benefit. Only then will the act not be undertaken. Anything less than a comprehensive and forceful response will simply encourage further atrocities. Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
Hi Yuki, my reply is on TBOT. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Terrorist Attacks
I pray no one, or anyone you know, was caught in todays' terrorism attacks in New York Wash, DC. Hopefully. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Terrorist Attacks
Hello Stefan others on this TB! list following this thread, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, you stated regarding today's Terrorist Attacks: ST I wish anything like this will never repeat and the counter-measures ST will not bring new innocent casualties. Violence begets more violence, nothing was or could have been accomplished by this wanton destruction, and anyone relishing over it for ANY reason is subhuman and rather stupid, because the backlash will be profound and this may spell the end of protective havens for terrorists anywhere in the world. Cabins can be sealed and armored, a foot button could activate a silent alarm that transmits data sending jet fighters aloft to prevent the highjacked plane's access to critical targets, manual control of the plane could be inactivated and turned over to a remote source that would land the plane, airlanes can be rerouted and the use of vital airspace restricted, passenger lists could be double checked for verified identities histories (maybe fingerprints photographs will be required), tv cameras could transmit who is doing what inside airplanes; airport locations may be removed from vital areas (w/ high speed train links between outlying airports and the cities). The attack was ingenious yet totally incongruent w/ any worthy goal. The results will be quite different from those imagined by the perpetrators and those most responsible will be identified and hunted down. Their acts have made them become too visible, too destructive to remain protected. They will be eliminated. And the demand for experts w/ solutions related to Security issues will rise. But 4 highjacked airplanes four buildings destroyed (along with more below) hundreds or thousands of innocent deaths will resolve no issues relating to independence or sovereignty and the opposite is more likely as a result of this vicious, stupid and useless (if spectacular) act. Life will go on, measures will be taken, reoccurrences will soon become less likely and the terrorists will soon discover that having raised the stakes has put them out of their league. They have stoked the Hawk's furnaces and justified a higher budget for the military espionage. They have just given George W. the pretext he needs to take a hard stance and show what a Texan can do in a fight (which is much easier than negotiating). Pride in any identity that negates ones fellow man is self destructive. (Ask Tito). As for the rest of us, the living bury the dead and rebuild, which is as it must be. As the villagers I lived with knew, a todos nos entran (no one is bullet proof, and violence no es negocio - isn't good business). Inevitably, the pendulum swings back. I highly commend Stefan Max et al for having dedicated their genius to truly useful efforts. (Viva TB!). Douglas -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: TB! External Programs / RTF Editor
Hello Januk (TBTech), Raj, Andrew (TBUDL) others on both TB! lists following this thread, Monday, September 10, 2001, you all responded w/ helpful suggestions in relation to my query regarding TB! External Programs / RTF Editor, for which I thank you (and am following up). DH If I want full headers, I assume having them visible DH when saving would accomplish that). JA You have two options, the second one is better/easier. JA 1. Change the save template to: JA %HEADERS JA %TEXT JA 2. Use Tools - Export - .msg JA These files are plain text, but are RFC-822 compliant. The BUT is the key word there. Thanks DH (Question B): ¿Can anyone recommend a good, compact resource DH frugal share or freeware rich text editor that I could use for that DH purpose? JA What about WordPad that comes with Win9x? It should be in your JA Windows directory. If you haven't done too much pruning on your start JA menu, it could also be under Start - Programs - Accessories Sometime back it started telling me that Riched32.dll missing or damaged. It's not missing (in fact, I have it 5 places) so it must be the latter. I'd have to reinstall it. In general, I have a gut level antipathy toward anything M$, though. I am less adverse toward their free things, however (like the Window97 Viewer the one that lets Winword6 convert Win97 2000 files - and neither active the Word macro viruses). IAC, I'm taking a look at Atlantis Notetab first. Thanks again to all who offered answers. Douglas -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
