Re[2]: Unable to Download

[Raj]

Thomas,

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, at 21:26:39 [GMT +0800] (which was 6:56 PM where I live) you
wrote:

TF> Different protocol. Maybe they have restricted email size, but not
TF> file download size.

There is progress while no solution.

I  just  discovered that I am able to download mails when I use dial up. However
when I am connected using broadband I am unable to do do. The ISP maintains that
they have no limitation. I am connected using an Ethernet card to the ISP.

I also checked with a neighbour (who also uses the same ISP) and he states that
he  has NOT encountered the problem. (Planning to check his machine in another 30
mins)

So the problem it appears to be localized to me and my connection / machine.

Any tips as to what or where I should start looking ???

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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/15 - SINGLELINE

[Thomas F]

Hello Januk,

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:57:53 -0800 GMT (09/12/2001, 11:57 +0800 GMT),
Januk Aggarwal wrote:

JA> %SETPATTREGEXP="(?is-m)^.*?\n(.*)$"%-
JA> %REGEXPMATCH="%Clipboard"

JA> Of course, for all this work, you might as well delete the line
JA> manually and just insert the new greeting by QT.

Check this out: It simplifiees the equasion 1+1=2. The words are in
German but the gist should still be clear for people who understand
math formulas but don't speak German:
http://www.fh-merseburg.de/~freyerfa/daniel/witze/stud/mathe.htm

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Re: REPLY TO: macro

[Thomas F]

Hello jan,

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:11:45 -0500 GMT (09/12/2001, 03:11 +0800 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jbc>I had always thought that adding %REPLYTO="address"
jbc>replaced the default Account Reply-To: info. Yet I have
jbc>been unable to do that & I can't find a reason why.

The macro works in TB (at least over here it does and has done for
several versions.

It can be overwritten by your MTA (t-online.de does that, for
example), or by the mailing list server (like on this list), after the
message has already left your PC.

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Re[2]: How to indent a whole block of text?

[Rick Reumann]

On Saturday, December 08, 2001, 11:10:46 PM, Januk Aggarwal wrote:

JA> Hello Rick,


JA> You know, the behaviour you're noticing suggests another solution
JA> (very similar to Marck's) to your original question.  You can select a
JA> block of spaces to the right of the paragraph to be indented.  Then
JA> you just paste it in to the left of the paragraph.  Just a thought.

Now that's cool. Thanks so much for the suggestion. I hope they keep
this functionality in the next Bat version as well.

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Re: How to indent a whole block of text?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Rick,

An archeological dig discovered that on Saturday, December 8, 2001 at
11:33 GMT -0500, Rick Reumann [RR] typed the following:

MDP>> Switch to column block mode ( or use the status bar - click
MDP>> where it says "Stream"), mark and cut the whole block, place the
MDP>> cursor at the column offset required and paste. If you reformat the
MDP>> block, it retains the indent but wraps the right margin.

RR>  Thanks! Works great. The only slightly annoying thing I'm running
RR>  into is if say I copy or cut text from somewhere else and want to
RR>  paste it indented as you mentioned above, I have to make sure I have
RR>  enough space to fit the pasted in text.

You know, the behaviour you're noticing suggests another solution
(very similar to Marck's) to your original question.  You can select a
block of spaces to the right of the paragraph to be indented.  Then
you just paste it in to the left of the paragraph.  Just a thought.

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Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/15 - SINGLELINE

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello jan,

Historians believe that Saturday, December 8, 2001 at 08:05 GMT -0500
was when, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [J] typed the following:

J>Is there a way to use the SINGLELINE macro to construct a
J>QT that deletes just one line.

Not that I know of. It should be a pretty easy with a regular
expression, but there aren't any macros to access the current
message's text.  A work around would be to select the entire message
body (Ctrl-A) and put it into the clipboard (Ctrl-C).  Then run the
following quick template:

%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is-m)^.*?\n(.*)$"%-
%REGEXPMATCH="%Clipboard"

Of course, for all this work, you might as well delete the line
manually and just insert the new greeting by QT.

J>The purpose is to build a QT that will manually delete a
J>greeting line as in 'Hello TBUDListers." & replace it
J>with a time-of-day greeting as in "Good morning
J>TBUDListers".

Are the time specific messages only occasionally, or do you want it
for all messages served by the main template?  If it is the second,
why not change your main template to use the correct greeting rather
than replacing it later?


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Re[2]: copying filter

[Robbie]

Thanks Allie, that worked like a charm. Much better than the way I did
it originally. (I copied the .src firl but then had to reestablish all
the folder pointers.)


Thanks ... Robbie
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> @ 11:05:03 -0800 [ Sat, 8 Dec 2001], Robbie Robertson [RR]
> thoughtfully wrote the following:
> ...
RR>> I   had   the   same  quetion and your suggestion works great, It even
RR>> maintains the correct destination folder. Thank you.

RR>> Now, is there a way to do the same thing with multiple filters?

> Copy the filter and then paste it in a text editor. Do the same with
> the other filters. There's no need to do anything in the editor window
> more than simply paste the filters each time you copy them. Now copy
> the entire text from the editor and paste it in the target filter set.



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Re[3]: Yahoo slow?

[Marc van Breemen]

Hello Kevin,

On 8 Dec 2001, 15:56:06, you wrote:

> i  currently use GMX.Net or GMX.Co.uk if you cant understand
> the  German  Language.   they  are  excellent  as they are a
> WebMail  &  Pop  mail server combined.  they are also _very_
> fast  in  their  sending of emails and its excellent service
> you get from them for Free.

I know. I'm a GMX user for half a day now and I'm very glad that I
moved from Yahoo to GMX. BTW GMX.net is also in English or several
other languages.

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Re[2]: Just curious why ....

[Marc van Breemen]

Hello Allie,

On 8 Dec 2001, 18:47:15, you wrote:

> So, if you're going to assess development based on version numbering.
> you'll be sorely disappointed. Though v2 has been long in coming, I've
> been quite content since development has certainly progressed in the
> interim. Many are however impatient because v2 is slated to have some
> important interface enhancements such as customisable toolbars,
> remappable keyboard shortcuts, an alternate editor, plug-in support
> among other things.

That's what I meant when I posted this message. I am 90% happy with
what The Bat offers right now. I, as you maybe can see, finally
switched definitely to The Bat.

I just can't wait until the ability to write HTML messages is
introduced. I just want to use some bold and underline in my text. No
pictures, just simple enhancement of text.

If this feature is implemented in version 1.55 then I don't care for
version 2 anymore ;)).

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Re: copying filter

[Allie C Martin]

@ 11:05:03 -0800 [ Sat, 8 Dec 2001], Robbie Robertson [RR]
thoughtfully wrote the following:
...
RR> I   had   the   same  quetion and your suggestion works great, It even
RR> maintains the correct destination folder. Thank you.

RR> Now, is there a way to do the same thing with multiple filters?

Copy the filter and then paste it in a text editor. Do the same with
the other filters. There's no need to do anything in the editor window
more than simply paste the filters each time you copy them. Now copy
the entire text from the editor and paste it in the target filter set.

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Re: REPLY TO: macro

[Allie C Martin]

@ 14:11:45 -0500 [ Sat, 8 Dec 2001], Jan Rifkinson [JR] contributed
this to our collective wisdom:
...
JR> I had always thought that adding %REPLYTO="address" replaced the
JR> default Account Reply-To: info. Yet I have been unable to do that
JR> & I can't find a reason why.

JR> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I use it pretty extensively since I don't use the same reply-to
address all the time. In fact, I use it for this list.

The only thing I can suggest is to check the user error factor and be
certain that you're triggering the template which you edited (include
another macro or text and see if it works) and be certain that the
macro syntax is sound.

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Re: Hi and question from a list newbie

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Hi Rudy,

On 08 December 2001 at 11:49:08 [GMT-0700] (which was 18:49 where I
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points:

RW>   There used to be instructions in the FAQ to configure The Bat!
RW>   as a mailing list server, but they are gone.  The link gets a
RW>   404 (page missing) error.

My bad. I've now fixed the link on the FAQ.

It should be pointing to: http://www.pcwize.com/tblh/faq.shtml

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REPLY TO: macro

[jan]

Hello TBUDListers.

   I had always thought that adding %REPLYTO="address"
   replaced the default Account Reply-To: info. Yet I have
   been unable to do that & I can't find a reason why.

   Any suggestions would be appreciated.

   TIA

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Re[2]: copying filter

[Robbie Robertson]

I   had   the   same  quetion and your suggestion works great, It even
maintains the correct destination folder. Thank you.

Now, is there a way to do the same thing with multiple filters?


Thanks ... Robbie
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> Hello Joseph,

> On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:51:34 -0600GMT (8-12-01, 16:51 +0100GMT, where I
> live), you wrote:

JN>> Is it possible to copy a filter from one account to another in the
JN>> same group?

> Yes.
> Select the filter, Ctrl-C, go to the other account, Ctrl-V



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Hi and question from a list newbie

[Rudy Willis]

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  There used to be instructions in the FAQ to configure The Bat! as a
  mailing list server, but they are gone.  The link gets a 404 (page
  missing) error.  Would anyone have these?

  Thanks,
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Re: Just curious why ....

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Hi Allie,

On 08 December 2001 at 12:47:15 [GMT-0500] (which was 17:47 where I
live) Allie C Martin wrote to Don Zeigler on TBUDL and made these
points:

ACM> Many are however impatient because v2 is slated to have some
ACM> important interface enhancements such as customisable toolbars,
ACM> remappable keyboard shortcuts, an alternate editor, plug-in
ACM> support among other things.

The truth is that 1.54 is almost certain to be released as the first
V2 early next year. It will only contain a completion of the feature
set we're already testing for that release and /possibly/ a gesture in
the direction of customisable toolbars. The other features you list,
although generally hinted at being slated for V2, probably won't see
the light of day until around v2.1. There is a credibility issue in
saying "This is V2", since a major percentage of the features
originally promised for that version will have been implemented and
tested piecemeal in the V1 series. RIT have already suffered enough
skepticism for not having released V2 after having first discussed the
feature set for it nearly two years ago.

The main "icing on the cake" features above and beyond what's there
now will be (AFAICS) new sorting office, new HTML renderer, new editor
with HTML authoring (don't yell at me; it's not my fault; blame the
magazines that mark TB down in the reviews for not having it - do you
want RITlabs to survive or not? even though the rest of the world is
just beginning to realize that HTML mail is actually a BAAAD thing
(tm) - I'm certainly not going to be using it), global folders,
customisable toolbars (in theory) plus the stuff we already have - CC,
GPG, new mailbase. Oh yes. You already said that. And it's already
been rebuilt using Delphi 6 which means that they're getting ready to
port to Linux soon after.

Anyway. This is mostly "on good authority" rather than conjecture.

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Re: It worked - Thank YOU!

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S> Hey guys, it worked, I am now error-message free!

S> Thank you so much for all your input, I really appreciate it, great
S> group!

Yes, Sebastian, it is. :))

I'd like to add: You are lucky to use TB!. You will really have to *force*
it to execute any Outlook viruses. ;o)

S> Merci,

I'm grateful too. :)

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Re: Yahoo slow?

[Thomas F]

Hello Marc,

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 15:27:07 +0100 GMT (08/12/2001, 22:27 +0800 GMT),
Marc van Breemen wrote:

ACM>> If you give us a sample of one of the delayed message's headers
ACM>> we'd be more able to tell where the problem lies i.e. where the
ACM>> delay took place.

MvB> My posting 'Just curious why' was sent by me at 7-12-01 20:40 (GMT+1)
MvB> and I received it today (8-12-01).

I think Allie meant the RFC822 headers (hit crtl-atl-K to toggle). On
the Date and Received headers we can see where the message was
delayed.

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Re: Just curious why ....

[Allie C Martin]

@ 10:17:51 -0500 [ Sat, 8 Dec 2001], Don Zeigler [DZ] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
DZ> It doesn't bother me that much -- TB does what I need it to do for
DZ> now, any any new features, to me, are nothing but gravy. I'll
DZ> agree that the pace of development has been a little slow,

I disagree here and am of the view that the pace of TB! development
has been very quick. A LOT has happened to TB! since I started using
it in 1999 and the version then was 1.31 (I think).:-) It's just that
the version numbers have been going up in much smaller increments when
compared to other software undergoing similar enhancement/development.
For example, when the message base format for TB! was changed, the
version number moved from v1.41 to v1.42. When the interface got a
face lift in terms of the consolidation of options and the CC, the
version number jumped from 1.52 to 1.53. There are numerous other
examples of major enhancements being reflected by small increases in
version number including:

Numerous new macros and making macro recursive.

Message List Colouring

Backup/Restore and Synchronising functionality

GnuPG Support

Message memos.

Source viewer

Kill-filter revamping

There are even more radical enhancements that are being tested in the
v1.54 betas and this is only a move from v1.53.

So, if you're going to assess development based on version numbering.
you'll be sorely disappointed. Though v2 has been long in coming, I've
been quite content since development has certainly progressed in the
interim. Many are however impatient because v2 is slated to have some
important interface enhancements such as customisable toolbars,
remappable keyboard shortcuts, an alternate editor, plug-in support
among other things.

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Re[3]: Yahoo slow?

[Marc van Breemen]

> Oke, I lied and I cheat and now I have a gmx.net account. It looks
> that it works fine and fast. This is a test to see if I see my posting
> quicker.

YES!!! Finally a quick response. Bye bye Yahoo, hello GMX.NET!


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Re[2]: Yahoo slow?

[Marc van Breemen]

Hello Allie,

On 8 Dec 2001, 13:55:55, you wrote:

> If you wish to try another, I'd suggest a gmx.net account. I've been
> using it without problems for some time now.

Oke, I lied and I cheat and now I have a gmx.net account. It looks
that it works fine and fast. This is a test to see if I see my posting
quicker.

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Re: How to indent a whole block of text?

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Rick,

On 08 December 2001 at 11:33:01 [GMT-0500] (which was 16:33 where I
live) Rick Reumann wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points:

RR> .. Is there a way I could force it to 'push' down what is below
RR> where I am pasting?

In a word - no :-(. But it's not too hard to open up the space by
leaning on the return key. Of course, if you're just indenting a block
in situ, the space is already there.

MDP>> Of course, this is not possible without a free caret editor !

RR> Wow, is this what all the editor discussion was about over the
RR> past few days?

A bit.

RR> Is the anti-bat editor clan against having this feature? I don't
RR> get. I think it's great.

It's just one of the many things made possible by it, but I don't want
to reopen that Can-O-Worms(tm).

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Re[2]: How to indent a whole block of text?

[Rick Reumann]

On Saturday, December 08, 2001, 10:49:27 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:


>> ... What I want to be able to do is to be able to select a whole
>> region of text and be able to indent the whole block.

MDP> Switch to column block mode ( or use the status bar - click
MDP> where it says "Stream"), mark and cut the whole block, place the
MDP> cursor at the column offset required and paste. If you reformat the
MDP> block, it retains the indent but wraps the right margin.

 Thanks! Works great. The only slightly annoying thing I'm running
 into is if say I copy or cut text from somewhere else and want to
 paste it indented as you mentioned above, I have to make sure I have
 enough space to fit the pasted in text. In other words in column mode
 it doesn't automatically force down my signature and the paste will
 run right over it. Is there a way I could force it to 'push' down what
 is below where I am pasting?


MDP> Of course, this is not possible without a free caret editor !

  Wow, is this what all the editor discussion was about over the
  past few days? Is the anti-bat editor clan against having this
  feature? I don't get. I think it's great.








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Re[2]: Yahoo slow?

[pkroy]

Hello Marc,

  the experince is similar

Best regards,
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just to recap , you wrote on Saturday, December 08, 2001 at 8:13:25 PM
  
   ACM>> If you wish to try another, I'd suggest a gmx.net account. I've been
ACM>> using it without problems for some time now.

> I did go to the website to sign on and give it a try, but they want to
> know too much of you. I'm not willing to supply that much information.

> Do you have other suggestions?


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Re: copying filter

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Joseph,

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:51:34 -0600GMT (8-12-01, 16:51 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

JN> Is it possible to copy a filter from one account to another in the
JN> same group?

Yes.
Select the filter, Ctrl-C, go to the other account, Ctrl-V

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IMAP email login using encrypted password

[Randy]

Hi Peter,

> But one thing _is_ sure: Netscape has to send User/Pass too, otherwise
> no Login could be done :-) But as I said: seem Netscape needs to do
> this only once in opposite to TB! :-)

You are correct about Netscape holding the connction open but I am
confirming that in the one Netscape login sequence, the username
and password are NOT visible in the packets.

I don't mean to anal about this as I've been using FTP and other
unencoded stuff for years. My concern is that, as we move towards a
future where there is more and more malicious hacking of all
kinds, and speaking as someone who needs to log in on a lot of
customers' servers I am going to be wanting to avoid yelling that
password every few minutes day after day.

That's why I began looking into the Secure Bat which uses hardware
protection. I was trying to get the MD5 or other protected stuff
working in the regular Bat to see if the secure version willwork
with my servers.

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Re: How to indent a whole block of text?

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Hi Rick,

On 08 December 2001 at 10:38:19 [GMT-0500] (which was 15:38 where I
live) Rick Reumann wrote to Bat List and made these points:

> Sorry if this question is simple.

Sort ... of then again ...

> ... What I want to be able to do is to be able to select a whole
> region of text and be able to indent the whole block.

Switch to column block mode ( or use the status bar - click
where it says "Stream"), mark and cut the whole block, place the
cursor at the column offset required and paste. If you reformat the
block, it retains the indent but wraps the right margin.

Of course, this is not possible without a free caret editor !

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copying filter

[Joseph N.]

Is it possible to copy a filter from one account to another in the
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Re: Just curious why ....

[Nils Haag (mailing lists)]

Hello Marc, hi list,
 
On Friday, December 07, 2001 'Marc van Breemen' wrote:

> Can I rely on RitLabs that they introduce The Bat version 2 in the
> very near future?

I don't belive it will be finished within the next three or four
months. but really nobody knows that exactly. Probably even ritlabs
doesn't know.

> They are building it for more than two years
> now. Still no beta to see, that is not really promising. 
[...]
> Can anybody explain me why RitLabs introduces new features (like common
> folders) in an 'old' version (version 1.xx) when they are very (I hope) busy
> with finishing (I hope) version 2.? If I were them I put all my
> effort in completing version 2 and, besides solving the serious bugs,
> quit developing version 1. Why not? Tell me, why not?

Why is everyone so focused to the version 2? If a program works well
and solves all my problems it can be a version 0.1, version 0.9 or
10,000. And if I don't like a program and they call it version "2000
XL", it won't become better!
So be happy about a great mail-client in version 1.xx!


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How to indent a whole block of text?

[Rick Reumann]

Sorry if this question is simple. I did check through some of the
archives for an answer and have tried different editor settings. What
I want to be able to do is to be able to select a whole region of text
and be able to indent the whole block. I think it can be done because
with the smart tabs on I can type that way and it comes out fine
indented. However, I still don't see how to take a whole block of text
that isn't indented and indent it some. Maybe it's not possible?

Thanks for any help.

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Re[2]: Yahoo slow?

[Don Zeigler]

On 12/8/2001, Marc van Breemen wrote:

> I did go to the website to sign on and give it a try, but they want to
> know too much of you. I'm not willing to supply that much information.

Who says you have to be completely truthful when you fill out those
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Re: Just curious why ....

[Don Zeigler]

On 12/7/2001, Marc van Breemen wrote:

> I'm a former Calypso user which is, as you maybe know, now orphaned
> by the owner. So let's say it's dead. Now I am looking for the best
> replacement. Two email clients are left in my search: Becky and The
> Bat. Both are extremely good.

Greetings, fellow former Calypso user!

> BUT: I want a email client that will last for a long long time. I
> don't want to start using a email client again that will be
> discontinued at some time. Can I rely on RitLabs that they introduce
> The Bat version 2 in the very near future? They are building it for
> more than two years now. Still no beta to see, that is not really
> promising.

It doesn't bother me that much -- TB does what I need it to do for
now, any any new features, to me, are nothing but gravy. I'll agree
that the pace of development has been a little slow, but they are a
small company. I also believe that they don't follow the oft-used
practice of releasing new versions that are often little more than
betas, and letting the public at large be unwitting beta testers (can
anyone say Microsoft?).

> MCS, the former developer of Calypso, also promised to introduce new
> versions and then suddenly pulled the plug out; because: "You can't
> beat Outlook". Why wouldn't this happen with The Bat? Why not?.

I've heard different stories about why MCS pulled the plug on Calypso.
Judging from posts made by Calypso tech support to the Calypso email
list I belonged to, they were pretty much caught by surprise by the
decision to discontinue the product.

> Can anybody explain me why RitLabs introduces new features (like
> common folders) in an 'old' version (version 1.xx) when they are
> very (I hope) busy with finishing (I hope) version 2.? If I were
> them I put all my effort in completing version 2 and, besides
> solving the serious bugs, quit developing version 1. Why not? Tell
> me, why not?

I think it's a convenient way to get early test results on features
planned for v2.0. As I understand from my brief time on this list,
v2.0 is going to be a major rewrite. By putting new features in the
current 1.x series they can get feedback on problems, etc, before
introducing the features into 2.0. This way their users will get a
more stable v2.0 right off the bat (no pun intended).
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Re: Editing/Composing Messages

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Hello Zach!

On 8  Dec 2001 at 08:50:20 you wrote:

> Not as a hotkey though, only as a menu item. Right? Either way, it's a
> great thing for any list/newsgroup reading client to have.

Menu and tool bar button.




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Re[2]: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Geoff Lane]

Saturday, December 08, 2001, 1:36:41 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in
reply to Sebastian:


> One of two things:

> 1). Turn off NAV. Let TB download the infected mail in peace (it won't
> hurt - it's coming into TB after all). Turn on NAV once the mail
> retrieval is complete.

> 2). Use TB's "Dispatch mail on server" functions to delete the
> offending message from the server.

> The problem is that NAV is being unnecessarily intrusive to TB's mail
> retrieval process - that's why I won't use it myself.
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Sebastian doesn't say which version of Norton Antivirus he's using. If
this is NAV 2001 or later, you can manually configure it scan incoming
email and to either quarantine or delete infected attachments. This
allows uninterrupted downloading of mail.

If you configure NAV like this, it replaces each infected attachment
with a text file that identifies the virus that the attachment
contained, and gives the action that NAV took.

Here's the full procedure of how to manually configure NAV and TB to
give maximum protection with minimum disruption to mail downloads.

1. Open NAV2001, either from the Start menu or by double-clicking the
   system tray icon. In NAV2001, click Options.
2. In the Options dialog box, click Email Protection, in the Action
   list select "Delete the attachment" or "Quarantine the attachment".
3. Expand Email Protection, click Advanced, then select Enable Manual
   Configuration.
4. Click OK, then close NAV2001.
5. In TB, open the account properties sheet, then select Transport.
6. In the User box, type your username at your ISP, followed by a
   slash, followed by the name of your ISP's POP3 server. For example,
   if your user name fred and the mail server name is
   mail.mydomain.com, you should type fred/mail.mydomain.com in the
   User box.
7. In the Mail Server box, type pop3.norton.antivirus, then click OK.

HTH,

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Re[2]: Yahoo slow?

[Kevin Conlin]

Saturday, December 08, 2001, mlh
In Regards to Yahoo slow? 


m> Hi Marc,

m> Saturday, December 08, 2001, 02:43 pm, you wrote:

MvB>> I did go to the website to sign on and give it a try, but they want to
MvB>> know too much of you. I'm not willing to supply that much information.
MvB>> Do you have other suggestions?
m> Lie to them.

m> HTH



i  currently use GMX.Net or GMX.Co.uk if you cant understand
the  German  Language.   they  are  excellent  as they are a
WebMail  &  Pop  mail server combined.  they are also _very_
fast  in  their  sending of emails and its excellent service
you get from them for Free.


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Re: Yahoo slow?

[Marc van Breemen]

m> MvB> I did go to the website to sign on and give it a try, but they want to
m> MvB> know too much of you. I'm not willing to supply that much information.
m> MvB> Do you have other suggestions?
m> Lie to them.

Oke, I think you're right. I lie and try. But...please tell my mom I
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Re: Yahoo slow?

[mlh]

Hi Marc,

Saturday, December 08, 2001, 02:43 pm, you wrote:

MvB> I did go to the website to sign on and give it a try, but they want to
MvB> know too much of you. I'm not willing to supply that much information.
MvB> Do you have other suggestions?
Lie to them.

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Re: Yahoo slow?

[Marc van Breemen]

ACM> If you wish to try another, I'd suggest a gmx.net account. I've been
ACM> using it without problems for some time now.

I did go to the website to sign on and give it a try, but they want to
know too much of you. I'm not willing to supply that much information.

Do you have other suggestions?

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Re: Yahoo slow?

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wrote:


MvB> In that case: which do you suggest?
Try www.gmx.com - multi-language support, good security/privacy
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It worked - Thank YOU!

[Sebastian]

Hey guys, it worked, I am now error-message free!

Thank you so much for all your input, I really appreciate it, great
group!

Merci,

Sebastian. :)


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Re: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Sebastian,

On 08 December 2001 at 15:15:28 [GMT+0100] (which was 14:15 where I
live) Sebastian wrote to Roelof Otten and made these points:

RO>> ... Or delete the infected message from your server, the log of
RO>> TB should give you the header-info of the faulty message, it's
RO>> probably one with a from-address starting with an underscore _ ,
RO>> since that's the way badtrans works.

> How can I take a look at what's on my server?

Use "Account | Dispatch mail on server".

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Re: Yahoo slow?

[Marc van Breemen]

ACM> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 13:16:12 +0100, Marc Van Breemen [MVB] wrote these
ACM> comments:

ACM> MVB> When I post a message to this list then it takes a while (an hour
ACM> MVB> or sometimes two days) to see my posting appearing in the list.
ACM> MVB> Sometimes I receive the replies much earlier. Strange.
ACM> It could be a problem with Yahoo or it could be a problem with one of
ACM> the intermediate relay servers. If you give us a sample of one of the
ACM> delayed message's headers we'd be more able to tell where the problem
ACM> lies i.e. where the delay took place.

My posting 'Just curious why' was sent by me at 7-12-01 20:40 (GMT+1)
and I received it today (8-12-01).

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Re: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Sebastian,

On 8  Dec 2001 at 14:44:33 you wrote (at least in part):

S> I turned the tool off, killed both the program itself-process, as well
S> as the agent process.

S> Then I hit the "check mail for all" button but nothing came - am I
S> doing something wrong?

Have you tried the mail dispatcher?
If so and there are no mail left on server you'l.l have to locate the
offending mail in your mailbase.

This can be done as follows:

- Open up the search dialogue.
- Check "Look in": "All Accounts"
- "Search for": "Re:"
- Tab "Advanced"
  - "Message has attachments"
  - "Size is LARGER than": "30" K bytes
  - "Size is SMALLER than": "50" K bytes
- Start searching.

This may find some more messages than the virus containing, but I'm
quite sure the one you need to find will be found too as the virus
every time creates a mail starting with 'Re:' in subject and as itself
is 29KByte sized the mail will at least have a size between 30 & 50
KBytes.
Now go through the search result list and look for mails with a two
files attached. One is called 'message.htm' (that's not a real
attachment, but it looks like one) and the other is named with a
double extension. It ends with '.doc.pif', '.doc.scr', '.mp3.pif',
'.mp3.scr' and maybe one or two additional endings may be possible (I
can't recall them all right now).
If you found a mail that could contain the virus try to save the
attachment. Scan the saved file with NAV. If NAV alerts you when you
try this you've found _one_ :-) Tell NAV what ever you want, let it
delete the file.
Delete the message.
Go on looking for other mails maybe containing this virus. Do the same
'Save', 'Check', 'Delete mail if positive' procedure until you're done
through all found mails.
Close the search window. Go through all 'Trash' folders, clear them
(or if there are mail in some Trash-folders you want to keep delete
only the mails you already deleted in normal message list within the
search window).
After you've done with all Trash-folders use menu 'Folder', entry
'Compress all folders'.

Now the mails are _really_ deleted, even from message data base and
you can fire up your NAV-Agent again.

It should not alert you about any virus in a .tmp file anymore (at
least until you receive the next one *g*)


S> Please let me know,
S> thank you very much,

Hope this helps

Pit
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Re[2]: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Sebastian]

Hi Roelof.

Thank you for your input. :)

I looked into my logfile, and it only gives me the path to my temp
folder as well as the filename (batxx.tmp) that it could not store.

How can I take a look at what's on my server?

Thank you,

Sebastian. :)

RO> Hello Sebastian,

RO> On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:08:40 +0100GMT (8-12-01, 14:08 +0100GMT, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

S>> The filename that has this virus supposedly in it changes all the
S>> time, and the file itself is never deletable. It's a temporary file,
S>> that has names from BAT44.tmp to BAT98.tmp - all that.

RO> The problem is that you've got a mail with a virus in your pop-box. TB
RO> tries to download the message and writes it in the temp-dir.
RO> Because Norton Antivirus doesn't allow the creation of this file (it
RO> is infected) TB can't finish the download, so it quits downloading.
RO> Next time TB starts collecting messages, it starts with the infected
RO> maessage, NAV prevents the downloading, so the message is still on
RO> your server. Etc, etc, etc.

RO> Solution? Two possibilities, disable NAV, collect the message with TB
RO> so it'll get deleted from the server and delete it in your inbox. Or
RO> delete the infected message from your server, the log of TB should
RO> give you the header-info of the faulty message, it's probably one with
RO> a from-address starting with an underscore _ , since that's the way
RO> badtrans works.


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Re: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Sebastian,

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:08:40 +0100GMT (8-12-01, 14:08 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

S> The filename that has this virus supposedly in it changes all the
S> time, and the file itself is never deletable. It's a temporary file,
S> that has names from BAT44.tmp to BAT98.tmp - all that.

The problem is that you've got a mail with a virus in your pop-box. TB
tries to download the message and writes it in the temp-dir.
Because Norton Antivirus doesn't allow the creation of this file (it
is infected) TB can't finish the download, so it quits downloading.
Next time TB starts collecting messages, it starts with the infected
maessage, NAV prevents the downloading, so the message is still on
your server. Etc, etc, etc.

Solution? Two possibilities, disable NAV, collect the message with TB
so it'll get deleted from the server and delete it in your inbox. Or
delete the infected message from your server, the log of TB should
give you the header-info of the faulty message, it's probably one with
a from-address starting with an underscore _ , since that's the way
badtrans works.

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Re: Editing/Composing Messages

[Zach Robbins]

Friday, December 07, 2001, 12:31:00 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

>> There are times when it would be good to be able to see something
>> in a monospaced font. It would be good if there was an easy way to
>> toggle back and forth. I remember such a feature in Eudora. (if
>> there is one in TB! I'm not aware of it. I looked at the List of
>> (un)documented shortcuts and didn't find one.

> That would be quite nice; Agent does have it.

Not as a hotkey though, only as a menu item. Right? Either way, it's a
great thing for any list/newsgroup reading client to have.

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Re[2]: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Sebastian]

Hi Marck.

Wow, you are absolutely right - I just looked at the connection
details of one POP mail account, and it says: "could not store message
batxx.tmp" - how can I get this message?

Thank you,

Sebastian.


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Re[2]: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Sebastian]

Hi Marck. :)

Thank you very much for that input.

I turned the tool off, killed both the program itself-process, as well
as the agent process.

Then I hit the "check mail for all" button but nothing came - am I
doing something wrong?

Please let me know,
thank you very much,

Sebastian. :)

MDP> This file is a temporary copy of an incoming / not yet received
MDP> message.


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Re: Problem with Connection Centre

[Thomas F]

Hello Juan,

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:29:35 -0300 GMT (08/12/2001, 02:29 +0800 GMT),
Juan Manuel wrote:

JM> I'm  using  TB  1.53bis,

There were still some problems with this version, and I don't remember
whether one was with the connection center, but I would suggest you
upgrade to 1.53d or 1.53t and see whether the problem is solved.

JM> I  even  tried  to  re-install  TB  (i.e.,  install TB over my current
JM> installation  without  uninstalling  it).  I didn't want to uninstall,
JM> 'cos I don't know if it'll erase my configuration.

You don't need to uninstall. You can back up your folders first (I do
a complete backup every time before I upgrade). Then you jsut install
the new version, and your mails will still be there and your settings
too.

JM> Sorry if my english is not so good, but it's not my mother tongue ;)

There is also a Spanish list. Check out
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/lists.html

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Re: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Sebastian,

On 08 December 2001 at 14:08:40 [GMT+0100] (which was 13:08 where I
live) Sebastian wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

> Hey there. :)

> I am new to the group, and I have one huge problem with the BAT:

Since you are using TB, the problem is minor.

> Now, since last nite, my Norton AntiVirus agent detects exactly this
> virus, a [EMAIL PROTECTED] - in my TEMP folder!

> The filename that has this virus supposedly in it changes all the
> time, and the file itself is never deletable. It's a temporary file,
> that has names from BAT44.tmp to BAT98.tmp - all that.

This file is a temporary copy of an incoming / not yet received
message.

> What can I do?

One of two things:

1). Turn off NAV. Let TB download the infected mail in peace (it won't
hurt - it's coming into TB after all). Turn on NAV once the mail
retrieval is complete.

2). Use TB's "Dispatch mail on server" functions to delete the
offending message from the server.

The problem is that NAV is being unnecessarily intrusive to TB's mail
retrieval process - that's why I won't use it myself.

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Re: Unable to Download

[Thomas F]

Hello Raj,

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:22:11 +0530 GMT (08/12/2001, 12:52 +0800 GMT),
Raj wrote:

R>> From the afternoon today I have been experiencing problems in down loading large
R>> mails. When I say large I mean around 40K or so.

R> It seems that the problem appears to be localised in the sense that I have tried
R> 3 different pop servers and Iam unable to download from any.

I have one  accont that does this occasionally. I am sure it is the
POP server. You also said that it used to work and you haven't changed
anything on your computer. Try and check with your ISP whether they
have changed anything.

R> As mentioned I can download files thru the browser other wise.

Different protocol. Maybe they have restricted email size, but not
file download size.

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Update: Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Sebastian]

Okay, sorry, I wanted to say that I expect the virus to be in some BAT
mail - that is the program I am using, not Outlook.

So, whenever BAT is open, NAV detects a virus in my temp folder.

Thank you for your help,

Sebastian. :)


S> Hey there. :)

S> I am new to the group, and I have one huge problem with the BAT:

S> Right now, the dear Outlook user community is sending out the Badtrans
S> viruses like crazy. I received plenty of them from various people, of
S> course none of them affected my computer.

S> Now, since last nite, my Norton AntiVirus agent detects exactly this
S> virus, a [EMAIL PROTECTED] - in my TEMP folder!

S> The filename that has this virus supposedly in it changes all the
S> time, and the file itself is never deletable. It's a temporary file,
S> that has names from BAT44.tmp to BAT98.tmp - all that.

S> What can I do?

S> I expect the virus to be in some email that is in my Outlook, but I
S> searched through everything, deleted every mail that was in the Trash,
S> nothing helped. What can this be?

S> Any help is gladly appreciated,
S> thank you very much,

S> Sebastian. :)

S> PS: Oh, and whenever I close THE BAT, the virus warnings go away, too!


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Norton detects Badtrans Virus in BAT Temp-File...

[Sebastian]

Hey there. :)

I am new to the group, and I have one huge problem with the BAT:

Right now, the dear Outlook user community is sending out the Badtrans
viruses like crazy. I received plenty of them from various people, of
course none of them affected my computer.

Now, since last nite, my Norton AntiVirus agent detects exactly this
virus, a [EMAIL PROTECTED] - in my TEMP folder!

The filename that has this virus supposedly in it changes all the
time, and the file itself is never deletable. It's a temporary file,
that has names from BAT44.tmp to BAT98.tmp - all that.

What can I do?

I expect the virus to be in some email that is in my Outlook, but I
searched through everything, deleted every mail that was in the Trash,
nothing helped. What can this be?

Any help is gladly appreciated,
thank you very much,

Sebastian. :)

PS: Oh, and whenever I close THE BAT, the virus warnings go away, too!


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TB! V1.54 Beta/15 - SINGLELINE

[jan]

Hello TBUDListers.

   Is there a way to use the SINGLELINE macro to construct a
   QT that deletes just one line.

   The purpose is to build a QT that will manually delete a
   greeting line as in 'Hello TBUDListers." & replace it
   with a time-of-day greeting as in "Good morning
   TBUDListers".

   TIA

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Re: Yahoo slow?

[Allie C Martin]

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 13:16:12 +0100, Marc Van Breemen [MVB] wrote these
comments:
...
MVB> I'm using, as you see, Yahoo for my email. I have never any
MVB> problems with it. In the past I used Hotmail which is really
MVB> s..t.

MVB> When I post a message to this list then it takes a while (an hour
MVB> or sometimes two days) to see my posting appearing in the list.
MVB> Sometimes I receive the replies much earlier. Strange.

MVB> Some say that this is a problem of Yahoo. But what if I never
MVB> experienced this problem in other lists?. Is it really Yahoo or
MVB> could the problem be at the side of this list?

MVB> If you can convince me that Yahoo is the problem then I will
MVB> search for another email service. In that case: which do you
MVB> suggest?

It could be a problem with Yahoo or it could be a problem with one of
the intermediate relay servers. If you give us a sample of one of the
delayed message's headers we'd be more able to tell where the problem
lies i.e. where the delay took place.

I'm quite sure there's nothing wrong from the list side since I get
back messages that I posted, usually within a minute or two.

I have had problems with my Yahoo POP account and this is why I
stopped using it. I find each persons mileage varies.

If you wish to try another, I'd suggest a gmx.net account. I've been
using it without problems for some time now.

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Yahoo slow?

[Marc van Breemen]

Hi,

I'm using, as you see, Yahoo for my email. I have never any problems
with it. In the past I used Hotmail which is really s..t.

When I post a message to this list then it takes a while (an hour or
sometimes two days) to see my posting appearing in the list. Sometimes
I receive the replies much earlier. Strange.

Some say that this is a problem of Yahoo. But what if I never
experienced this problem in other lists?. Is it really Yahoo or could
the problem be at the side of this list?

If you can convince me that Yahoo is the problem then I will search for
another email service. In that case: which do you suggest?

Thanks.

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HTMLless Outlook

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Hello TBUDL

  Maybe the message is getting through!

  quote
 SICK OF HTML EMAIL?

 Is HTML email more trouble than its worth? It's a question of
 personal choice, really. Let's look at the pros and cons.

 Certainly, a professionally designed email message formatted
 with HTML (such as the HTML edition of the SitePoint Tribune)
 can be more readable, can impart visual information more 
 effectively, and can more easily link to online resources.

 That said, HTML email (especially of the unsolicited variety)
 can violate the reader's privacy by reporting back to the
 sender through inline images. It can also waste bandwidth, and
 send more objectionable material, such as images and sounds,
 straight to your email inbox (a big concern for parents whose
 children receive email).

 For these reasons, many Internet users have elected to use email
 clients that don't support HTML email, because programs like
 Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express don't allow the viewing of
 HTML email to be disabled.

 To address this problem, NTBugtraq.ntadvice.com editor Russ
 Cooper has created a tool called "NoHTML", which disables HTML
 email in Outlook 2000, and converts it to plain text in Outlook
 2002.

 Unfortunately, NoHTML does not work in Outlook 98 or earlier,
 nor does it work in Outlook Express. But for users who have
 shied away from the power of Microsoft's Outlook email package
 because of its blind acceptance of HTML email, this plugin will
 make all the difference:

  NoHTML v1.2.0.0
  -> http://ntbugtraq.ntadvice.com/default.asp?sid=1&pid=55&did=38
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Re[2]: Runline switches

[colin gebhart]

thanks,

that worked like a charm.  too bad i wasn't smart enough to find it on
my own.  i'm not too worried about local security issues because it is
a family computer.  i just don't want people messing with settings
that don't know what they are doing.  because then i have to go back
and troubleshoot a problem i didn't cause.

lates,
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Saturday, December 08, 2001, 1:06:59 AM, you wrote:

JA> Hello Colin,

JA> On Saturday, December 8, 2001 at 00:11 GMT -0600, a creature mimicking
JA> colin gebhart [CG] wrote:

CG>> does anyone know if TB supports runline switches and how to format
CG>> them?

CG>> what i want to do is run TB in administrator/user configuration, but i
CG>> don't want to have to enter my account name and password each time
CG>> i open TB like it requires.

JA> Absolutely, check out the help file under:
JA>   |-> Contents
JA>  |-> Advanced Usage topics
JA> |-> Command line parameters

JA> The one you want is the /Focus command.

CG>> since i am running winXP in multiuser mode

JA> This will work on any version of Windows.  Be warned, you are
JA> increasing the chance that someone else could find your password.



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