Re: Macro in template
Hello Joseph! On Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 7:43:24 PM you wrote: Is this your understanding? What procedures do you follow? Do you have one filepath for all attachments and then clean it out constantly? Some things Peter already explained. Just to tell you how I use the macros. 1. I don't use them as extensively as you, I think. 2. In my case I have one template (QT) with which I usually send out the same three (with vCard: four) files - PDF's. 3. At the beginning of the template are three lines with the %ATTACHFILE macro, each one pointing to one file in any directory I like (good old Path + File). 4. Then comes a text. 5. At the end of the text is a line like it was used in olden days in old-fashioned snail mail letters: Included with this you find: %ATTACHMENTs. this will give out the list of attached files, including the vCard (which, BTW, many people still don't seem to see). 6. If I'd use the list macro to show a list of attached files I put in by hand (sometimes I really change the attached files), I'd call up another QT like the one Peter implicitly suggested containing nothing but the line Included ... %ATTACHMENTs. manually. I hope that clears it up for you, if only a bit. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Plagiarism saves time. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
cookies
hi.. where can i find good cookies about movie quotes.. i started to build one.. (gladiator + southpark + fight club + some more) but does anyone knows a place ? :) thanks.. ..Can Burak Cilingir ...21.01.2002 ...12:27 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
HTML- special folder
Hi, I'm a novice user in TB can we set up a filter to sent all the html email straight to a special folder what is the condition to be applied in the filter thanks ya! Jason mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 119785304 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: HTML- special folder
On 21 January 2002 at 11:04 am Jason wrote: Hi, I'm a novice user in TB can we set up a filter to sent all the html email straight to a special folder what is the condition to be applied in the filter thanks ya! One way to do it would be to give the filter: Strings = HTML [as every HTML page has HTML somewhere near the start] Location = Text [test for HTML's presence anywhere in the body of the message] Presence = Yes [self-explanatory] Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Signature -- \n Problem
Hi, as you can see my sig is just --\n, although I correctly put -- \n in my 'new message' template. What am I doing wrong?? (Using TB 1.53d) Bye Nick -- / Nick Panienski - GfD IT-Kommunikation / Dipl. Ing. Informationstechnik (BA) IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender.
Re: HTML- special folder
Hello Alastair! On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 12:10:38 PM you wrote: Strings = HTML [as every HTML page has HTML somewhere near the start] Location = Text [test for HTML's presence anywhere in the body of the message] Presence = Yes [self-explanatory] Won't it be better to not look in the body but in the headers for html? -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Silence is the virtue of fools. (Francis Bacon) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Signature -- \n Problem
Hello nick, 21. januar 2002, 12:15:55, you wrote: npod as you can see my sig is just --\n, although I correctly put npod -- \n in my 'new message' template. What am I doing wrong?? npod (Using TB 1.53d) Type dashdashspaceenter in the template. Even though it will not look like there is a space at the end, there will be (just don't fiddle with the -- line after that). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] The amount of pleasure derived from a cigarette is directly proportional to the number of non-smokers in the vicinity. -- Dhawan's Second Law for the Non-Smoker -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Signature -- \n Problem
Hallo Jernej and Brano, JS Type dashdashspaceenter in the template. Even though it will JS not look like there is a space at the end, there will be (just don't JS fiddle with the -- line after that). Thats what Ive done, putting the cursor to the beginning of the line and pressing 'end' will put the cursor correctly after dashdashspace, so there definatly is a dashdashspacenewline. I actually didnt want to use external files in the first way, so if no one can suggest a solution Ill try the external file. (PS, I just manually put a space down there :) Ciao Nick -- / Nick Panienski - GfD IT-Kommunikation / Dipl. Ing. Informationstechnik (BA) Debuggers don't remove Bugs, they only show them in Slow-Motion. IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender.
Re: HTML- special folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, On 21 January 2002 at 12:26:49 +0100 (which was 11:26 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote to Alastair Scott and made these points: Presence = Yes [self-explanatory] Won't it be better to not look in the body but in the headers for html? Yes - for text/html, although that wouldn't see the multipart/alternative styled messages in which the HTML version of the message is a simple attachment. Such messages would be missed by both of the suggestions so far. I think you would have to have alternatives set up for each of these filter aspects for it to work reliably. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0| www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/30-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8TAnkOeQkq5KdzaARAu4ZAJ4vfTrlsqcSZ6ytinzQ2Hv5RH7oWwCdFnB6 Pf1zdZCzDRbIg17bbQtl4xs= =prl7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Signature -- \n Problem
Hi Nick, npod (PS, I just manually put a space down there :) hm, maybe your mail server or virus scanner steals your spaces... ? | Received: from komm-npa.gfd.de ([10.112.100.36]) by Notes-Fax1.obi.de (Lotus Domino | Release 5.0.3 (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2002012113224853:62361 ; Mon, 21 Jan | 2002 13:22:48 +0100 | X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on OBI_Fax01/OBI/DE(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March | 2000) at 21.01.2002 13:22:49, | MIME-CD by Trend Mailscan on OBI_Fax01/OBI/DE(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March | 2000) at 21.01.2002 13:22:49, | MIME-CD complete at 21.01.2002 13:22:49, | Serialize by Router on OBI_Fax01/OBI/DE(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) |at | 21.01.2002 13:22:51 -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/30) Business Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
list of keyboard shortcuts
Hello TBUDL, Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? The documentation included with the program does not seem to be complete at all and I tried to find one on the TBUDL archive without success. Thanks in advance for your help. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Signature -- \n Problem
Hello nick, 21. januar 2002, 13:22:45, you wrote: npod Thats what Ive done, putting the cursor to the beginning of the line npod and pressing 'end' will put the cursor correctly after dashdashspace, npod so there definatly is a dashdashspacenewline. I actually didnt want to npod use external files in the first way, so if no one can suggest a npod solution Ill try the external file. End will always miss the last space. Select with mouse, and you'll see it. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] You cant push on a rope. -- Second Law of Physics dashdashspace.png Description: PNG image
Re[4]: Signature -- \n Problem
Hallo Jernej, JS End will always miss the last space. Select with mouse, and you'll see JS it. You missunderstood me, in the 'Templates' 'End' really stops behind the space. I just created a draft, seeing that in my drafts the space is not missing. So this really must be a problem of our smtp server / virus scanner. This sucks. Ciao Nick -- / Nick Panienski - GfD IT-Kommunikation / Dipl. Ing. Informationstechnik (BA) Der ewige Jammer mit den Weltverbesserern ist, dass sie nie bei sich selber anfangen. (Thornton Wilder) (See attached file: dash.png) dash.png Description: Portable Network Graphics Forma
Re: list of keyboard shortcuts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 08:30:29 -0500, David Denton [DD] wrote concerning 'list of keyboard shortcuts': ... DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? Yes. It's on the FAQ page. This is the direct URL: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html - -- Best regards, David ** It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/30] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPEwPx1K9yf5+yp9NEQKXUwCgmSEM5z7xY5dC2iDR/a1STLI8K+4AoPeK cfv1VlOWTm4H4O9GreCG+ArI =AjwL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: anti-virus software
At 13:37 21/01/2002, David Denton wrote: Mail server: 127.0.0.1 User: username/mail server info Can anyone tell me if this is really working? What are the pros and cons of this set up? If you are still receiving your mail then it is working. In fact, it works very well. The newer versions of NAV handle mail in a much better way, though - they actually monitor for mail protocols at the network level and do the scanning there. Mike -- Mike Zanker Northampton, UK PGP Public Key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: list of keyboard shortcuts
David, On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, at 08:30:29 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:00 PM where I live) you wrote: DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The more you complain, the longer God makes you live. Replied on Monday, January 21, 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
shortcut Memo
Hi list, I was searching in the List with documented shortcuts but i could not find anything about Memo: closing? Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for me: a bug or have i missed a setting? -- Best regards, Luc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: shortcut Memo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luc, On 21 January 2002 at 15:24:29 +0100 (which was 14:24 where I live) Luc wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: I was searching in the List with documented shortcuts but i could not find anything about Memo: closing? Esc or Ctrl-Shift-I (it's a toggle). Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for me: a bug or have i missed a setting? Type the handle of the QT then Crtl-Space, like BQCrtl-Space, to expand the template in-situ. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0| www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/30-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8TCbCOeQkq5KdzaARAp4YAJsGEjavNoYYq+Rwu06MWC8gzBafYwCg6Q73 k8FxbCSr3pERGUtWDX9uWuA= =L2fd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: shortcut Memo
Hello Luc! On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 3:24:29 PM you wrote: I was searching in the List with documented shortcuts but i could not find anything about Memo: closing? Esc Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for me: a bug or have i missed a setting? Since this works for everybody I consider you are doing something wrong/have misunderstood something. Do the following: 1. Type in the name/handle of your QT into an open message you created (New, Reply or Forward). 2. Press Ctrl+Space Now your QT should be invoked and change whatever it should change (message text, macros etc.). If this doesn't happen, please, give us some more input. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C To be is to be the value of a variable. (W.V.O. Quine) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: shortcut Memo
Hello Luc, On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 3:52:47 PM you wrote (at least in part): MDP Type the handle of the QT then Crtl-Space, like BQCrtl-Space, to MDP expand the template in-situ. L Unfortunately, it doesn't work. Are you absolutely sure this shortcut is not assigned to any other application? It should at least open a popup if the QT-name is wrong or should execute the QT if it's right what could be seen if message content changes. So could the try closing _all_ applications except The Bat! (maybe with a little help of Ctrl+Shift+Esc - Task-Manager) and retry the shortcut mentioned by Marck? -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) We don't care. We don't have to. We're the Phone Company. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: shortcut Memo
I tried it and it work *but* as far as I can see in my QT, there should not be any spaces in the QT handle name. Thank you for writing On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 17:02:55, Marck wrote about: shortcut Memo MDP Type the handle of the QT then Crtl-Space, like BQCrtl-Space, to MDP expand the template in-situ. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: shortcut Memo
It was foretold that on 21-1-2002 @ 16:17:14 GMT+0100 (which was 16:17 where I live) Peter Palmreuther wrote and spread these wise comments on shortcut Memo: PP Are you absolutely sure this shortcut is not assigned to any PP other PP application? Snip PP So could the try closing _all_ applications except The Bat! PP (maybe PP with a little help of Ctrl+Shift+Esc - Task-Manager) and PP retry PP the shortcut mentioned by Marck? Tnx Peter et all That helped. Turned out that the key combination was already assigned in another application. (If i design a program that automatically detects what key combinations are already assigned and in what kind of application, would i earn a lot of money ? ;-) ) -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Thought for the day : It is human nature to think wisely and act foolishly.~ Anatole France. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: shortcut Memo
Hello Dierk, On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:37:43 +0100 GMT (21/01/02, 22:37 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for me: a bug or have i missed a setting? DH Since this works for everybody I consider you are doing something DH wrong/have misunderstood something. It's doesn't work in C-Win, though. crtl-space is one of the system-wide shortcuts to toggle betwenn Chinese and English. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/30 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
Hello David, On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:34:30 -0500 GMT (21/01/02, 23:34 +0800 GMT), David Denton wrote: DDWhat is good strategy for handling folders of incoming and sent DDmessages? Is it a good idea to put sent messages in the same DDfolder with incoming mail? What about setting up inbox and sent DDsub-folders for each mail folder (seems very complicated and DDdoes not really solve the problem of seeing sent messages with DDcorresponding reply). Any suggestions? The way I do it, I have seperate folders for friends and family members with who I email often. Another folder is for all those with who I email regularly, but not often. Each mailing list has its own folder. For the personal folders, I keep incoming and outgoing messages together. The mailing lists only get the incoming message, because if I send one to the list, I will also receive it through the list. So no filter for the otugoing messages, and, like Dierck, I keep the Sent folder small. In the office, I even have a folder for Others. Into this I filter both outgoing and incoming messages. In case a discussion arises with one partner, it's nice to have the queries and replies together. So the Sent folder and the Inbox are completely empty. That's another way. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/30 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
On Monday, January 21, 2002 4:36:03 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: What is good strategy for handling folders of incoming and sent messages? Is it a good idea to put sent messages in the same folder with incoming mail? What about setting up inbox and sent sub-folders for each mail folder (seems very complicated and does not really solve the problem of seeing sent messages with corresponding reply). Any suggestions? It depends on your needs. If you want mails for the same subject sorted together make a folder for it and one filter for incoming and one for outgoing mail to put all mails for this subject into that folder. Example: The Bat! Mailinglists. To archive *every* mail concerning TB! ML's make a folder TB! and filter all TB! ML mails into it. I for my part delete most mails I send after a few days automatically by setting the Sent Mail folder to delete mails after 2 days. I won't send you a PNG of my setup through the list for obvious reasons but if you think it would help you I can send it off-list. Another thing, It is not difficult to create sub-folders, but I do not recommend it for the System folders (Inbox, Outbox, Sent Mail and Trash). Why not? I've made sub-folders in the Sent Mail folder for the addresses I use regularly. The rest just remains in the main SM folder (I could of course also put them in a sub-folder 'miscellaneous'). I have at the moment 2250 messages in my SM folder, with 31 sub-folders, so that my sent messages are now neatly ordered. With this structure I can still easily search all my sent messages. I've also made sub-folders in my Trash folder, while I keep all messages for several reasons. If there are too many messages in it, I move the content to a special trash account (with sub-folders) on another disk. Peter Smitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xs4all.nl/~psmitt http://www.fine-art.com/psmitt -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
Hello Peter, On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:27:59 +0100 GMT (22/01/02, 00:27 +0800 GMT), Peter Smitt wrote: Another thing, It is not difficult to create sub-folders, but I do not recommend it for the System folders (Inbox, Outbox, Sent Mail and Trash). PS Why not? I've made sub-folders in the Sent Mail folder for the PS addresses I use regularly. Do you also have corresponding subfolders in your Inbox? PS I've also made sub-folders in my Trash folder, Certainly, different people have different ways of working. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sign in a Laundromat: AUTOMATIC WASHING MACHINES: PLEASE REMOVE ALL YOUR CLOTHES WHEN THE LIGHT GOES OUT Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/30 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: management of folders
On Monday, January 21, 2002, 10:36:03 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I for my part delete most mails I send after a few days automatically DH by setting the Sent Mail folder to delete mails after 2 days. Could you explain how you do this? I would like to do something similar. Preferably, I would love it if somehow after a message is 7 days old setting in the sent folder it gets deleted. Then, is there a way that in the trash folder I could have messages that are maybe 20 days old become deleted from the trash? If this could be done it would really be helpful. I like having a sent folder and trash folder, but don't like manually having to clean them all the time for some older messages that I know I could get rid of. Thanks for the help. -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way. -Jack Handey -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: shortcut Memo
It was foretold that on 21-1-2002 @ 17:37:32 GMT+0100 (which was 17:37 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote and spread these wise comments on shortcut Memo: DH Definitely - if there isn't one around already. Let me know if you find it !! DH One wish for it: It should print all keyboard shortcuts sorted by DH programme and alphabetically (both options are very useful). ;-) I am also using PGP and that's a beauty of a program regarding shortcuts: no matter what program is installed on your system: check the shortcuts or PGP doesn't work anymore (if you have to use the shortcuts). Fortunately, i have nothing else to do after a workday of 14 hours then checking all my shortcuts LOL. (For those on this list using PGP (hello nick ;-)) PLEASE do not consider this criticism, i'm just stating a fact so don't flame me to death lol) -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Thought for the day : Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history. (George Bernard Shaw) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Templates
Hoi Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to another wise slogan ;) --- Best regards, Stefan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) --- Original --- From: Marck D Pearlstone To: Stefan Kosmal on TBUDL Sent: Sonntag, 20. Januar 2002 Subject: Templates -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stefan, On 20 January 2002 at 17:20:03 +0100 (which was 16:20 where I live) Stefan Kosmal wrote to The Bat and made these points: Is it possible to change them for each outgoing mail automaticly? By using the address book, you can vary templates for each destination. Is that what you're asking? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0| www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/30-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8SyM3OeQkq5KdzaARAjnEAKDsDIy8k90Ey5zbErrp+OkT0EU5UwCfVn4b PC0V9yWAYhyE+VNJ9exm3M8= =4bYW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: shortcut Memo
Hello Luc! On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 4:41:41 PM you wrote: (If i design a program that automatically detects what key combinations are already assigned and in what kind of application, would i earn a lot of money ? ;-) ) Definitely - if there isn't one around already. One wish for it: It should print all keyboard shortcuts sorted by programme and alphabetically (both options are very useful). ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Any fool can make a rule - and every fool can mind it. (Henry David Thoreau) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
On Monday, January 21, 2002 5:37:05 PM, Thomas F wrote: Hello Peter, On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:27:59 +0100 GMT (22/01/02, 00:27 +0800 GMT), Peter Smitt wrote: Another thing, It is not difficult to create sub-folders, but I do not recommend it for the System folders (Inbox, Outbox, Sent Mail and Trash). PS Why not? I've made sub-folders in the Sent Mail folder for the PS addresses I use regularly. Do you also have corresponding subfolders in your Inbox? No, while the Inbox is a dynamic folder, just like the Outbox - it's meant to be emptied (I never succeed completely, I'm always keeping a few dozen messages while I may want to reread them or to reply to them...). But the subfolders in my SM folder do have corresponding folders in the main account. For example, I have the folders tbudl and sent/tbudl. PS I've also made sub-folders in my Trash folder, Certainly, different people have different ways of working. ;-) One of the reasons is that I get messages in several different languages, and I put them in different subfolders in the Trash folder, while I may use them as a database for looking up certain expressions in another language. Of course you can use Google for that, but sometimes an off-line database can also be useful. Another reason is that I sometimes calculate some statistics of the messages of a certain list (and then I need all the messages that have appeared on that list, not only the ones that I've kept in the folder for that list). Peter Smitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xs4all.nl/~psmitt http://www.fine-art.com/psmitt -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Templates
Hello Stefan, On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:54:26 PM you wrote (at least in part): SK Hoi SK Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there SK just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to SK another wise slogan ;) Maybe you want to use the '%COOKIE' macro which automatically choose one tag line randomly (at most it's randomly *G*)? See German help file for further reference ... syntax is either %COOKIE if you have all cookie lines in account properties or %COOKIE=filename if you want it to choose one line from a file located on your hard disk. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) I can't believe it! He's fighting with Adolf Hitler! --Rimmer. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
Hello Peter! On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:27:59 PM you wrote: Why not? That just shows how different needs and concepts are. To answer your question: I don't recommend it. I haven't written Why not to do it: Actually my ordering system uses the system folders as general (others may utilize non-account folders in the betas). After years of using very complex hierarchical directories I've come to the conviction that less is better - the less complex something is the better it will survive. And files/messages are easier to find and access with less levels. BTW, that's why I own a *filofax* instead of *Time/system* or *Chronoplan*. The second and third are - typically German? - much too overorganized. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Tritt jemand anderen nicht auf die Füße, so steht er sich selbst im Weg. (Aleks Papst) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rick, On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 12:08:15 -0500, Rick Reumann [RR] wrote concerning 'management of folders': ... DH I for my part delete most mails I send after a few days DH automatically by setting the Sent Mail folder to delete mails DH after 2 days. RR Could you explain how you do this? I would like to do something RR similar. Preferably, I would love it if somehow after a message is RR 7 days old setting in the sent folder it gets deleted. Right-click on the sent folder and check 'Keep messages in base for 7 days' and 'Remove old messages on exit'. RR Then, is there a way that in the trash folder I could have RR messages that are maybe 20 days old become deleted from the trash? Same procedure. Right-click on the Trash folder and check 'Keep messages in base for 20 days' and 'Remove old messages on exit'. - -- Best regards, David ** Microsoft: The company that made eMail dangerous. ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/30] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPExFZlK9yf5+yp9NEQJ5tQCdH7gVVkOGkm0NC1j52QLRJd+sxEwAn05m 9MUlBcyz/ZfiAVHOJ7CMhTZJ =fMHI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: list of keyboard shortcuts
Hello Raj, 21 Jan 2002, 3:07:42 pm, you wrote to TBUDL: DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? R http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html I would like a shortcut for changing between display all messages and only unread messages, but that does not excist? -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Templates
Hello Stefan! On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:54:26 PM you wrote: Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to another wise slogan ;) Randomly? Then the answer was - I think - already given: Use a text file, enter every tag line you want in *one* line. In your template insert the line %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=Path\file name'. You can also use TB!'s built-in cookie facility. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Je weniger Ahnung jemand hat, desto mehr Spektakel macht er, und ein desto höheres Gehalt verlangt er. (Mark Twain) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Deleting Messages
Hi List! Is it possible to permanently delete messages without first sending them to the Trash? Also, is it possible to set up a filter for the Trash to delete certain messages? I had a quick look at making a filter for Read Messages but it seems I can only move them, not delete them - unless I didn't look far enough, which is entirely possible. =] -- - Alan Poulton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Using The Bat! v1.53t on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
On 21 January 2002 at 15:34 David wrote: Hello TBUDL, I find The Bat! very easy to use for filtering mail. It is extremely powerful, but the ability to so easily move messages around raises a question, for me: What is good strategy for handling folders of incoming and sent messages? Is it a good idea to put sent messages in the same folder with incoming mail? What about setting up inbox and sent sub-folders for each mail folder (seems very complicated and does not really solve the problem of seeing sent messages with corresponding reply). Any suggestions? This (filtering ingoing _and outgoing_ messages on the fly to folders) is actually easier than any other mail package I've come across because of a very nice feature. Go to the Inbox, select a message in the message list and press Ctrl-Shift-F or right mouse button | Specials | Create filter ...; the dialog box that pops up on doing this is self-explanatory, creating the filter for you (which would otherwise involve a visit to Account | Sorting Office/Filters). You can also set up the mirror image of such filters for outgoing messages (go to Sent Mail once the reply has been sent and do the same thing) to send them where you want; by making both Move to folder: folders the same you _can_ have sent messages and replies next to each other. Alastair -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
On Monday, January 21, 2002 6:01:13 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: Hello Peter! On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:27:59 PM you wrote: Why not? That just shows how different needs and concepts are. To answer your question: I don't recommend it. I haven't written Why not to do it: Actually my ordering system uses the system folders as general (others may utilize non-account folders in the betas). After years of using very complex hierarchical directories I've come to the conviction that less is better - the less complex something is the better it will survive. And files/messages are easier to find and access with less levels. I think my system is very simple. In most cases I use only 1 level, sometimes 2 levels (as with the sent folder) and in one case 3 levels. At the moment I have some 3 messages in my account (trash folders excluded) and sometimes it is much easier to retrieve a certain message or to browse a folder if you use more than one level. I suppose you also use sometimes subdirectories... Further I find it much easer to have all my sent messages in one group of folders than divided into many different folders that are not part of the same folder. I can recommend it! BTW, that's why I own a *filofax* instead of *Time/system* or *Chronoplan*. The second and third are - typically German? - much too overorganized. I don't know any of them, so I can't comment on that... Peter Smitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xs4all.nl/~psmitt http://www.fine-art.com/psmitt -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: management of folders
At the moment I have some 3 messages in my account (trash folders excluded) Many users on this list have many scores of thousands of email messages retained in .TBB account files. This continues to astound me, and I continue to be impressed by TB!'s ability to retain that kind of volume without corrupting files. Generally speaking, how is it done? Does TB! load only the various .TBI files in memory and then, as needed, access the .TBB files? What accounts for TB!'s apparently superior stability? I have taken it as an article of faith that one should keep an email program as lean as possible and utilize separate archives as much as possible, but is that a rule only for lesser programs? JN -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
importing messages from Outlook Express
Hello TBUDL, I have tried several time to import messages from OE to The Bat! using the import wizard and each time about 20% of my OE messages are not imported. Anyone know why this is? Is there something I should be doing to make sure that I get all the messages? Again, thanks in advance for your help. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: list of keyboard shortcuts
Hello Ottar, 21. januar 2002, 18:58:22, you wrote: OG I would like a shortcut for changing between display all messages and OG only unread messages, but that does not excist? As you're using 1.54 beta, go to View-Edit shortcuts, and define a shortcut for Main Menu-View-Display-Unread only (and you'll probably want to change the Display-All shortcut, too, as it conflicts with Expand whole thread shortcut) -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] In an underdeveloped country, don't drink the water; in a developed country, don't breathe the air. -- Law of Nations -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: management of folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Joseph, On 21 January 2002 at 13:50:55 -0600 (which was 19:50 where I live) Joseph N. wrote to Peter Smitt and made these points: Many users on this list have many scores of thousands of email messages retained in .TBB account files. My mailbase now runs to 180k messages. Generally speaking, how is it done? Does TB! load only the various .TBI files in memory and then, as needed, access the .TBB files? IMHO yes. One for every folder that is open in a folder window and one for the folder with the focus in the main window. This is evidenced by the fact that TB will reindex a folder as a soon as it receives the focus. What accounts for TB!'s apparently superior stability? I have taken it as an article of faith that one should keep an email program as lean as possible and utilize separate archives as much as possible, but is that a rule only for lesser programs? Once again, IMHO yes. TB isn't completely flawless, but it seems to become more so with every iteration. Yes, there are some long standing bugs and some design inadequacies (I'm not going to catalogue them here and the first to try has the instant honour of a DEAD HORSE reply and a moderator's reprimand - it's not the point of the thread g), but they are not show-stoppers, and the way I see it TB is in every way more than the competition. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0| www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/30-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8THooOeQkq5KdzaARAjUdAKCflIbT3WmLGanL5aFX5oRMm8ln+QCg22xV ND7Bwn2/veGyRitIA2dU22g= =snLW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: list of keyboard shortcuts
Hello Jernej, 21 Jan 2002, 9:11:45 pm, you wrote to TBUDL: JS As you're using 1.54 beta, go to View-Edit shortcuts, and define JS a shortcut for Main Menu-View-Display-Unread only (and you'll JS probably want to change the Display-All shortcut, too, as it JS conflicts with Expand whole thread shortcut) That was really nice!! :-) -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com