Re: Macro in template

2002-01-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Joseph!

On Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 7:43:24 PM you wrote:

 Is this your understanding?  What procedures do you follow? Do you
 have one filepath for all attachments and then clean it out
 constantly?

Some things Peter already explained. Just to tell you how I use the
macros.

1. I don't use them as extensively as you, I think.

2. In my case I have one template (QT) with which I usually send out
the same three (with vCard: four) files - PDF's.

3. At the beginning of the template are three lines with the
%ATTACHFILE macro, each one pointing to one file in any directory I
like (good old Path + File).

4. Then comes a text.

5. At the end of the text is a line like it was used in olden days in
old-fashioned snail mail letters: Included with this you find:
%ATTACHMENTs. this will give out the list of attached files, including
the vCard (which, BTW, many people still don't seem to see).

6. If I'd use the list macro to show a list of attached files I put in
by hand (sometimes I really change the attached files), I'd call up
another QT like the one Peter implicitly suggested containing nothing
but the line Included ... %ATTACHMENTs. manually.

I hope that clears it up for you, if only a bit.



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cookies

2002-01-21 Thread Can Burak Cilingir

hi..

where can i find good cookies about movie quotes.. i started to build
one.. (gladiator + southpark + fight club + some more) but does anyone
knows a place ? :)

thanks..

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...12:27


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HTML- special folder

2002-01-21 Thread Jason

Hi,
I'm a novice user in TB
can we set up a filter to sent all the html email straight to a
special folder
what is the condition to be applied in the filter
thanks ya!

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Re: HTML- special folder

2002-01-21 Thread Alastair Scott

On 21 January 2002 at 11:04 am Jason wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm a novice user in TB
 can we set up a filter to sent all the html email straight to a
 special folder
 what is the condition to be applied in the filter
 thanks ya!

One way to do it would be to give the filter:

Strings = HTML [as every HTML page has HTML somewhere near the
start]

Location = Text [test for HTML's presence anywhere in the body of the
message]

Presence = Yes [self-explanatory]

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Signature -- \n Problem

2002-01-21 Thread nick . panienski


Hi,

  as you can see my sig is just --\n, although I correctly put
  -- \n in my 'new message' template. What am I doing wrong??
  (Using TB 1.53d)

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Re: HTML- special folder

2002-01-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Alastair!

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 12:10:38 PM you wrote:

 Strings = HTML [as every HTML page has HTML somewhere near the
 start]

 Location = Text [test for HTML's presence anywhere in the body of the
 message]

 Presence = Yes [self-explanatory]

Won't it be better to not look in the body but in the headers for
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Re: Signature -- \n Problem

2002-01-21 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello nick,

21. januar 2002, 12:15:55, you wrote:

npod   as you can see my sig is just --\n, although I correctly put
npod   -- \n in my 'new message' template. What am I doing wrong??
npod   (Using TB 1.53d)

Type dashdashspaceenter in the template. Even though it will
not look like there is a space at the end, there will be (just don't
fiddle with the --  line after that).

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Re[2]: Signature -- \n Problem

2002-01-21 Thread nick . panienski


Hallo Jernej and Brano,

JS Type dashdashspaceenter in the template. Even though it will
JS not look like there is a space at the end, there will be (just don't
JS fiddle with the --  line after that).
Thats what Ive done, putting the cursor to the beginning of the line
and pressing 'end' will put the cursor correctly after dashdashspace,
so there definatly is a dashdashspacenewline. I actually didnt want to
use external files in the first way, so if no one can suggest a
solution Ill try the external file.

(PS, I just manually put a space down there :)

Ciao
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Re: HTML- special folder

2002-01-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dierk,

On 21 January 2002 at 12:26:49 +0100 (which was 11:26 where I live)
Dierk Haasis wrote to Alastair Scott and made these points:

 Presence = Yes [self-explanatory]

 Won't it be better to not look in the body but in the headers for
 html?

Yes - for text/html, although that wouldn't see the
multipart/alternative styled messages in which the HTML version of the
message is a simple attachment. Such messages would be missed by both
of the suggestions so far.

I think you would have to have alternatives set up for each of these
filter aspects for it to work reliably.

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Re: Signature -- \n Problem

2002-01-21 Thread Carsten Thnges

Hi Nick,

npod (PS, I just manually put a space down there :)

hm, maybe your mail server or virus scanner steals your spaces... ?

| Received: from komm-npa.gfd.de ([10.112.100.36]) by Notes-Fax1.obi.de (Lotus Domino
|  Release 5.0.3 (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2002012113224853:62361 ; Mon, 21 Jan
|  2002 13:22:48 +0100

| X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on OBI_Fax01/OBI/DE(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March
|  2000) at 21.01.2002 13:22:49,
| MIME-CD by Trend Mailscan on OBI_Fax01/OBI/DE(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March
|  2000) at 21.01.2002 13:22:49,
| MIME-CD complete at 21.01.2002 13:22:49,
| Serialize by Router on OBI_Fax01/OBI/DE(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) 
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|  21.01.2002 13:22:51

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list of keyboard shortcuts

2002-01-21 Thread David Denton

Hello TBUDL,

  Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? The
  documentation included with the program does not seem to be complete
  at all and I tried to find one on the TBUDL archive without success.

  Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re[3]: Signature -- \n Problem

2002-01-21 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello nick,

21. januar 2002, 13:22:45, you wrote:

npod Thats what Ive done, putting the cursor to the beginning of the line
npod and pressing 'end' will put the cursor correctly after dashdashspace,
npod so there definatly is a dashdashspacenewline. I actually didnt want to
npod use external files in the first way, so if no one can suggest a
npod solution Ill try the external file.

End will always miss the last space. Select with mouse, and you'll see
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Re[4]: Signature -- \n Problem

2002-01-21 Thread nick . panienski


Hallo Jernej,

JS End will always miss the last space. Select with mouse, and you'll see
JS it.
You missunderstood me, in the 'Templates' 'End' really stops behind
the space. I just created a draft, seeing that in my drafts the space
is not missing. So this really must be a problem of our smtp server /
virus scanner. This sucks.

Ciao
Nick

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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

2002-01-21 Thread David van Zuijlekom

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concerning 'list of keyboard shortcuts':
...
DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!?

Yes. It's on the FAQ page. This is the direct URL:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

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Re: anti-virus software

2002-01-21 Thread Mike Zanker

At 13:37 21/01/2002, David Denton wrote:


   Mail server: 127.0.0.1
   User: username/mail server info

   Can anyone tell me if this is really working? What are the pros and
   cons of this set up?

If you are still receiving your mail then it is working. In fact, it
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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

2002-01-21 Thread Raj

David,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, at 08:30:29 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:00 PM where I live) you
wrote:

DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? 

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

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shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Luc

Hi list,

  I was searching in the List with documented shortcuts but i could
  not find anything about Memo: closing?

  Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for
  me: a bug or have i missed a setting?

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Re: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Luc,

On 21 January 2002 at 15:24:29 +0100 (which was 14:24 where I live)
Luc wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

   I was searching in the List with documented shortcuts but i could
   not find anything about Memo: closing?

Esc or Ctrl-Shift-I (it's a toggle).

   Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for
   me: a bug or have i missed a setting?

Type the handle of the QT then Crtl-Space, like BQCrtl-Space, to
expand the template in-situ.

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Re: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Luc!

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 3:24:29 PM you wrote:

   I was searching in the List with documented shortcuts but i could
   not find anything about Memo: closing?

Esc

   Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for
   me: a bug or have i missed a setting?

Since this works for everybody I consider you are doing something
wrong/have misunderstood something.

Do the following:

   1. Type in the name/handle of your QT into an open message you
   created (New, Reply or Forward).

   2. Press Ctrl+Space

Now your QT should be invoked and change whatever it should change
(message text, macros etc.).

If this doesn't happen, please, give us some more input.



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Re: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Luc,

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 3:52:47 PM you wrote (at least in part):

MDP Type the handle of the QT then Crtl-Space, like BQCrtl-Space, to
MDP expand the template in-situ.

L Unfortunately, it doesn't work.

Are you absolutely sure this shortcut is not assigned to any other
application?
It should at least open a popup if the QT-name is wrong or should
execute the QT if it's right what could be seen if message content
changes.
So could the try closing _all_ applications except The Bat! (maybe
with a little help of Ctrl+Shift+Esc - Task-Manager) and retry
the shortcut mentioned by Marck?
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Re: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Shahar

I tried it and it work *but* as far as I can see in my QT, there
should not be any spaces in the QT handle name.


Thank you for writing


On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 17:02:55, Marck wrote about:
shortcut  Memo


MDP Type the handle of the QT then Crtl-Space, like BQCrtl-Space, to
MDP expand the template in-situ.

 Unfortunately, it doesn't work.


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Re[2]: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 21-1-2002 @ 16:17:14 GMT+0100 (which was 16:17
where I live) Peter Palmreuther wrote and spread these wise comments
on shortcut  Memo:

PP Are you absolutely sure this shortcut is not assigned to any
PP other
PP application?
Snip
PP So could the try closing _all_ applications except The Bat!
PP (maybe
PP with a little help of Ctrl+Shift+Esc - Task-Manager) and
PP retry
PP the shortcut mentioned by Marck?

Tnx Peter et all  That helped. Turned out that the key combination
was already assigned in another application.
(If i design a program that automatically detects what key combinations
are already assigned and in what kind of application, would i earn a
lot of money ? ;-) )

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Re: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Thomas F

Hello Dierk,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:37:43 +0100 GMT (21/01/02, 22:37 +0800 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

   Also about QT: inserting = ctrl + space. But this doesn't work for
   me: a bug or have i missed a setting?

DH Since this works for everybody I consider you are doing something
DH wrong/have misunderstood something.

It's doesn't work in C-Win, though. crtl-space is one of the
system-wide shortcuts to toggle betwenn Chinese and English. ;-)

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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Thomas F

Hello David,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:34:30 -0500 GMT (21/01/02, 23:34 +0800 GMT),
David Denton wrote:

DDWhat is good strategy for handling folders of incoming and sent
DDmessages?  Is  it  a good idea to put sent messages in the same
DDfolder with incoming mail? What about setting up inbox and sent
DDsub-folders  for  each  mail folder (seems very complicated and
DDdoes  not really solve the problem of seeing sent messages with
DDcorresponding reply). Any suggestions?

The way I do it, I have seperate folders for friends and family
members with who I email often. Another folder is for all those with
who I email regularly, but not often. Each mailing list has its own
folder.

For the personal folders, I keep incoming and outgoing messages
together. The mailing lists only get the incoming message, because if
I send one to the list, I will also receive it through the list. So no
filter for the otugoing messages, and, like Dierck, I keep the Sent
folder small.

In the office, I even have a folder for Others. Into this I filter
both outgoing and incoming messages. In case a discussion arises with
one partner, it's nice to have the queries and replies together. So
the Sent folder and the Inbox are completely empty. That's another
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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Peter Smitt

On Monday, January 21, 2002 4:36:03 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

What is good strategy for handling folders of incoming and sent
messages?  Is  it  a good idea to put sent messages in the same
folder with incoming mail? What about setting up inbox and sent
sub-folders  for  each  mail folder (seems very complicated and
does  not really solve the problem of seeing sent messages with
corresponding reply). Any suggestions?

 It depends on your needs. If you want mails for the same subject
 sorted together make a folder for it and one filter for incoming and
 one for outgoing mail to put all mails for this subject into that
 folder.

Example: The Bat! Mailinglists. To archive *every* mail
concerning TB! ML's make a folder TB! and filter all TB! ML
mails into it.

 I for my part delete most mails I send after a few days automatically
 by setting the Sent Mail folder to delete mails after 2 days.

 I won't send you a PNG of my setup through the list for obvious
 reasons but if you think it would help you I can send it off-list.

 Another thing, It is not difficult to create sub-folders, but I do not
 recommend it for the System folders (Inbox, Outbox, Sent Mail and
 Trash).

Why not? I've made sub-folders in the Sent Mail folder for the
addresses I use regularly. The rest just remains in the main SM folder
(I could of course also put them in a sub-folder 'miscellaneous'). I
have at the moment 2250 messages in my SM folder, with 31 sub-folders,
so that my sent messages are now neatly ordered. With this structure I
can still easily search all my sent messages.

I've also made sub-folders in my Trash folder, while I keep all
messages for several reasons. If there are too many messages in it, I
move the content to a special trash account (with sub-folders) on
another disk.



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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Thomas F

Hello Peter,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:27:59 +0100 GMT (22/01/02, 00:27 +0800 GMT),
Peter Smitt wrote:

 Another thing, It is not difficult to create sub-folders, but I do not
 recommend it for the System folders (Inbox, Outbox, Sent Mail and
 Trash).

PS Why not? I've made sub-folders in the Sent Mail folder for the
PS addresses I use regularly.

Do you also have corresponding subfolders in your Inbox?

PS I've also made sub-folders in my Trash folder,

Certainly, different people have different ways of working. ;-)

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Re[2]: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Reumann

On Monday, January 21, 2002, 10:36:03 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH I for my part delete most mails I send after a few days automatically
DH by setting the Sent Mail folder to delete mails after 2 days.

Could you explain how you do this? I would like to do something
similar. Preferably, I would love it if somehow after a message is
7 days old setting in the sent folder it gets deleted. Then, is
there a way that in the trash folder I could have messages that
are maybe 20 days old become deleted from the trash? If this could
be done it would really be helpful. I like having a sent folder
and trash folder, but don't like manually having to clean them all
the time for some older messages that I know I could get rid of.

Thanks for the help.

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Re[2]: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 21-1-2002 @ 17:37:32 GMT+0100 (which was 17:37
where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote and spread these wise comments on
shortcut  Memo:

DH Definitely - if there isn't one around already.

Let me know if you find it !!

DH One wish for it: It should print all keyboard shortcuts sorted by
DH programme and alphabetically (both options are very useful). ;-)

I am also using PGP and that's a beauty of a program regarding
shortcuts: no matter what program is installed on your system: check
the shortcuts or PGP doesn't work anymore (if you have to use the
shortcuts). Fortunately, i have nothing else to do after a workday of
14 hours then checking all my shortcuts LOL.

(For those on this list using PGP (hello nick ;-)) PLEASE do not
consider this criticism, i'm just stating a fact so don't flame me to
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Re[2]: Templates

2002-01-21 Thread Stefan Kosmal

Hoi

Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there
just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to
another wise slogan ;)


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Hi Stefan,

On 20 January 2002 at 17:20:03 +0100 (which was 16:20 where I live)
Stefan Kosmal wrote to The Bat and made these points:

 Is it possible to change them for each outgoing mail automaticly?

By using the address book, you can vary templates for each
destination. Is that what you're asking?

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Re: shortcut Memo

2002-01-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Luc!

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 4:41:41 PM you wrote:

 (If i design a program that automatically detects what key combinations
 are already assigned and in what kind of application, would i earn a
 lot of money ? ;-) )

Definitely - if there isn't one around already.

One wish for it: It should print all keyboard shortcuts sorted by
programme and alphabetically (both options are very useful). ;-)



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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Peter Smitt

On Monday, January 21, 2002 5:37:05 PM, Thomas F wrote:

 Hello Peter,

 On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:27:59 +0100 GMT (22/01/02, 00:27 +0800 GMT),
 Peter Smitt wrote:

 Another thing, It is not difficult to create sub-folders, but I do not
 recommend it for the System folders (Inbox, Outbox, Sent Mail and
 Trash).

 PS Why not? I've made sub-folders in the Sent Mail folder for the
 PS addresses I use regularly.

 Do you also have corresponding subfolders in your Inbox?

No, while the Inbox is a dynamic folder, just like the Outbox - it's
meant to be emptied (I never succeed completely, I'm always keeping a
few dozen messages while I may want to reread them or to reply to
them...).

But the subfolders in my SM folder do have corresponding folders in
the main account. For example, I have the folders tbudl and
sent/tbudl.


 PS I've also made sub-folders in my Trash folder,

 Certainly, different people have different ways of working. ;-)

One of the reasons is that I get messages in several different
languages, and I put them in different subfolders in the Trash folder,
while I may use them as a database for looking up certain expressions
in another language. Of course you can use Google for that, but
sometimes an off-line database can also be useful. Another reason is
that I sometimes calculate some statistics of the messages of a
certain list (and then I need all the messages that have appeared on
that list, not only the ones that I've kept in the folder for that
list).



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Re: Templates

2002-01-21 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Stefan,

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:54:26 PM you wrote (at least in part):

SK Hoi

SK Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there
SK just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to
SK another wise slogan ;)

Maybe you want to use the '%COOKIE' macro which automatically choose
one tag line randomly (at most it's randomly *G*)?
See German help file for further reference ... syntax is either

%COOKIE

if you have all cookie lines in account properties

or

%COOKIE=filename

if you want it to choose one line from a file located on your hard
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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Peter!

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:27:59 PM you wrote:

 Why not?

That just shows how different needs and concepts are.

To answer your question: I don't recommend it. I haven't written Why
not to do it:  Actually my ordering system uses the system
folders as general (others may utilize non-account folders in the
betas).

After years of using very complex hierarchical directories I've come
to the conviction that less is better - the less complex something is
the better it will survive. And files/messages are easier to find and
access with less levels.

BTW, that's why I own a *filofax* instead of *Time/system* or
*Chronoplan*. The second and third are - typically German? - much too
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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread David van Zuijlekom

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On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 12:08:15 -0500, Rick Reumann [RR] wrote
concerning 'management of folders':
...
DH I for my part delete most mails I send after a few days
DH automatically by setting the Sent Mail folder to delete mails
DH after 2 days.

RR Could you explain how you do this? I would like to do something
RR similar. Preferably, I would love it if somehow after a message is
RR 7 days old setting in the sent folder it gets deleted.

Right-click on the sent folder and check 'Keep messages in base for 7
days' and 'Remove old messages on exit'.

RR Then, is there a way that in the trash folder I could have
RR messages that are maybe 20 days old become deleted from the trash?

Same procedure. Right-click on the Trash folder and check 'Keep
messages in base for 20 days' and 'Remove old messages on exit'.

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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

2002-01-21 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Raj,

21 Jan 2002, 3:07:42 pm, you wrote to TBUDL:

DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!?

R http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

I would like a shortcut for changing between display all messages and
only unread messages, but that does not excist?

  

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Re: Templates

2002-01-21 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Stefan!

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:54:26 PM you wrote:

 Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there
 just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to
 another wise slogan ;)

Randomly? Then the answer was - I think - already given: Use a text
file, enter every tag line you want in *one* line. In your template
insert the line %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=Path\file name'.

You can also use TB!'s built-in cookie facility.


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Deleting Messages

2002-01-21 Thread Alan Poulton

Hi List!

Is it possible to permanently delete messages without first sending them
to the Trash?

Also, is it possible to set up a filter for the Trash to delete certain
messages? I had a quick look at making a filter for Read Messages but
it seems I can only move them, not delete them - unless I didn't look
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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Alastair Scott

On 21 January 2002 at 15:34 David wrote:

 Hello TBUDL,

 I  find  The  Bat!  very  easy  to  use  for filtering mail. It is
 extremely  powerful,  but  the  ability to so easily move messages
 around raises a question, for me:

What is good strategy for handling folders of incoming and sent
messages?  Is  it  a good idea to put sent messages in the same
folder with incoming mail? What about setting up inbox and sent
sub-folders  for  each  mail folder (seems very complicated and
does  not really solve the problem of seeing sent messages with
corresponding reply). Any suggestions?

This (filtering ingoing _and outgoing_ messages on the fly to folders)
is actually easier than any other mail package I've come across
because of a very nice feature.

Go to the Inbox, select a message in the message list and press
Ctrl-Shift-F or right mouse button | Specials | Create filter ...; the
dialog box that pops up on doing this is self-explanatory, creating
the filter for you (which would otherwise involve a visit to Account |
Sorting Office/Filters).

You can also set up the mirror image of such filters for outgoing
messages (go to Sent Mail once the reply has been sent and do the same
thing) to send them where you want; by making both Move to folder:
folders the same you _can_ have sent messages and replies next to each
other.

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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Peter Smitt

On Monday, January 21, 2002 6:01:13 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Hello Peter!

 On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:27:59 PM you wrote:

 Why not?

 That just shows how different needs and concepts are.

 To answer your question: I don't recommend it. I haven't written Why
 not to do it:  Actually my ordering system uses the system
 folders as general (others may utilize non-account folders in the
 betas).

 After years of using very complex hierarchical directories I've come
 to the conviction that less is better - the less complex something is
 the better it will survive. And files/messages are easier to find and
 access with less levels.

I think my system is very simple. In most cases I use only 1 level,
sometimes 2 levels (as with the sent folder) and in one case 3 levels.
At the moment I have some 3 messages in my account (trash folders
excluded) and sometimes it is much easier to retrieve a certain
message or to browse a folder if you use more than one level. I
suppose you also use sometimes subdirectories...

Further I find it much easer to have all my sent messages in one group
of folders than divided into many different folders that are not part
of the same folder. I can recommend it!

 BTW, that's why I own a *filofax* instead of *Time/system* or
 *Chronoplan*. The second and third are - typically German? - much too
 overorganized.

I don't know any of them, so I can't comment on that...



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Re[2]: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Joseph N.

 At the moment I have some 3 messages in my account (trash
 folders excluded)

Many users on this list have many scores of thousands of email
messages retained in .TBB account files.  This continues to astound
me, and I continue to be impressed by TB!'s ability to retain that
kind of volume without corrupting files.  Generally speaking, how is
it done?  Does TB! load only the various .TBI files in memory and
then, as needed, access the .TBB files?  What accounts for TB!'s
apparently superior stability?  I have taken it as an article of faith
that one should keep an email program as lean as possible and utilize
separate archives as much as possible, but is that a rule only for
lesser programs?

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importing messages from Outlook Express

2002-01-21 Thread David Denton

Hello TBUDL,

  I  have  tried  several  time to import messages from OE to The Bat!
  using  the  import  wizard and each time about 20% of my OE messages
  are not imported. Anyone know why this is? Is there something I
  should be doing to make sure that I get all the messages?

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Re[2]: list of keyboard shortcuts

2002-01-21 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Ottar,

21. januar 2002, 18:58:22, you wrote:

OG I would like a shortcut for changing between display all messages and
OG only unread messages, but that does not excist?

 As you're using 1.54 beta, go to View-Edit shortcuts, and define a
 shortcut for Main Menu-View-Display-Unread only (and you'll
 probably want to change the Display-All shortcut, too, as it
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Re: management of folders

2002-01-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Joseph,

On 21 January 2002 at 13:50:55 -0600 (which was 19:50 where I live)
Joseph N. wrote to Peter Smitt and made these points:

 Many users on this list have many scores of thousands of email
 messages retained in .TBB account files.

My mailbase now runs to 180k messages.

 Generally speaking, how is it done? Does TB! load only the various
 .TBI files in memory and then, as needed, access the .TBB files?

IMHO yes. One for every folder that is open in a folder window and one
for the folder with the focus in the main window. This is evidenced by
the fact that TB will reindex a folder as a soon as it receives the
focus.

 What accounts for TB!'s apparently superior stability? I have taken
 it as an article of faith that one should keep an email program as
 lean as possible and utilize separate archives as much as possible,
 but is that a rule only for lesser programs?

Once again, IMHO yes. TB isn't completely flawless, but it seems to
become more so with every iteration. Yes, there are some long standing
bugs and some design inadequacies (I'm not going to catalogue them
here and the first to try has the instant honour of a DEAD HORSE reply
and a moderator's reprimand - it's not the point of the thread g),
but they are not show-stoppers, and the way I see it TB is in every
way more than the competition.

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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

2002-01-21 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Jernej,

21 Jan 2002, 9:11:45 pm, you wrote to TBUDL:

JS  As you're using 1.54 beta, go to View-Edit shortcuts, and define
JS  a shortcut for Main Menu-View-Display-Unread only (and you'll
JS  probably want to change the Display-All shortcut, too, as it
JS  conflicts with Expand whole thread shortcut)

  That was really nice!! :-)

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