Re: FAQ Submission: Re: Done - Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-25 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

thanks, Tim, for your findings.

Tim Musson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 regedit /e TheBatRegBU.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\rit

Is this the same command under all flavors of Windows, I recall there
were differences.

Regards,

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The Bat! - PGP 6.5.8 message Display

2002-07-25 Thread Alexander Kleiser

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Hi,

I'm using The Bat! with PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 09b2.

At the moment The Bat displays the message as it is received,
including PGP header, footer etc.

I would like to have it displayed after it is decrypted / verified,
without PGP header etc.
The status of the message displayed somewhere in The Bat (e.g. in
the status line), not in an additional window.
This would have the advantage, that changes made by PGP (like lines
starting with a dash, for example the signature delimiter) would be
restored.
The same applies to replies: I don't want to manually delete PGP
information in the quoted material.

Would this be possible?

Thanks for these two excellent programs.
Alexander Kleiser
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Shttp problem - bug?

2002-07-25 Thread John Phillips



Hello fellow Bat! fans.

came across a link with shttp as the first item, not http, in a recent e-mail..

Just what is shttp?

In any case when clicking on the link:-  Bat! did not recognise the shttp bit,
this was printed in black in the e-mail and not in blue as the rest of the
link;  and when clicking on the link;  the http opened, not the shttp page.

Is this a bug?

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Re: How to erase footer attached by SMTP

2002-07-25 Thread John Phillips




Hello Hasta
You wrote  On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 00:08:04 [GMT +0700] (03:08:04 Wednesday, 24 July 
2002 where I live):-

 RGVhciBTaXIgb3IgTWFkYW0uDQoNCj4gRGF0ZTogVHVlLCAyMyBKdWwgMjAwMiAwODoxNjoxNCAr
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 IGNhbiBzZXQgJ0FjY291bnQnIC8gJ1Byb3BlcnRpZXMnIC8gJ01haWwgbWFuYWdlbWVudCcgICc4
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rest snipped

What is this?

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Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear readers from 'TB!udl List',

I've setup TB! on a Notebook with an Identical Account for the
Company. Since fife days I can't send msg out from this Account (only
Notebook). The Log says '6.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED]' If I
tear the LAN plg it say unable to connect to Server (what is correct).

Does anyone have an Idea what this could be and where I have to look
for?

BTW - Both Computer are logged on the Network at the same time.
  (don't know if this may be important to know)


Thank you in advance and have a nice day :-)


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Re: How to erase footer attached by SMTP

2002-07-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi John,

@25 July 2002, 18:47 +1000 (09:47 UK time)  John Phillips [JP] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

JP You wrote  On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 00:08:04 [GMT +0700] (03:08:04 Wednesday, 24 
July 2002 where I live):-

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JP rest snipped

JP What is this?

Base 64 encoded text. See the thread that starts with this message:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. The reason will become
clear. If you don't have a local archive, then you'll find the thread
here http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44688.html

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Re: Reply templates/Macros/PGP wrapping

2002-07-25 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hi Allie,

On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 05:08 GMT -0500, aliens probed Allie
Martin and found:

NA Sorry to be a pain, but I now get one extra blank line...
NA resulting in two blank lines between the cursor and the last
NA quoted line. Aside from that the Template(s) work fine.

 I don't see a way of getting rid of those except to do so manually.

Use a combination like:

[Driver Template]
%COMMENT=%QUOTES%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is-m)^(.*)\n$%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%-
%-%QINCLUDE=#wrap2#
%COMMENT=
[ End ]

You can also solve the wrap2 adding extra blank line issue with:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbtech@thebat.dutaint.com/msg02338.html

That uses a slightly smart regexp solution, but the real problem was
an added newline character when you paste it in.  When I wrote the
template, TB's editor stripped the newline, but it doesn't appear to
do that when you simply paste something.

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Re: Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Eddie,

@25 July 2002, 11:05 +0200 (10:05 UK time)  Eddie Castelli [EC] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

EC ... '6.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

EC Does anyone have an Idea what this could be and where I have to
EC look for?

This is the server saying that your from address is not one that it
recognises and that, as such, it won't relay SMTP traffic for you.
Either that or (less likely?) the server is wrongly set up not to
relay SMTP mail outside the LAN.

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Re: FAQ Submission: Re: Done - Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-25 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Markus,

On Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 10:55:41 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

 regedit /e TheBatRegBU.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\rit

MG Is this the same command under all flavors of Windows, I recall there
MG were differences.

Should be the same ... '/e' is known to me since Win95 and still present in
W2K ... maybe XP differs? Somebody who can tell something about XP and
'regedit /e'???
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Re: Shttp problem - bug?

2002-07-25 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello John,

On Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 10:53:17 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):



JP came across a link with shttp as the first item, not http, in a recent e-mail..

JP Just what is shttp?

Nonsense. Stupidity. Crap. Something that does not matter.

JP In any case when clicking on the link:-  Bat! did not recognise the shttp bit,

Because it's no known protocol.

JP Is this a bug?

Yes. A bug in the brain of author of that link. It should be 'https://'
instead of 'shttp://' and The Bat! (and EVEN your browser) will recognize
it correctly.
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Re: Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear Marck, 

 --- Marck D Pearlstone / Donnerstag, 25.07.2002, 11:15:13
Can' relay !


EC ... '6.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

 This is the server saying that your from address is not one that
 it recognises and that, as such, it won't relay SMTP traffic for
 you.

But the Desktop is setup 'exactly' the same way. An there I can send
out my mails.
To add is that on the Notebook I still can receive mails.


 Either that or (less likely?) the server is wrongly set up not to
 relay SMTP mail outside the LAN.

Not quit possible (see above)


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Re: Cool scripts and anti-spam

2002-07-25 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Jonathan,

On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 08:54 GMT -0500, clairvoyants were
mystified when Jonathan Angliss [JA] conjured:

JA This is a box quote quick template. I cannot remember who
JA originally did it, but here it is:

Carsten Thönges originally posted his work to TBTECH in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which can be found in the archives at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbtech@thebat.dutaint.com/msg01200.html

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Re: Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Eddie,
On Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 11:24:42 [GMT +0200], you wrote:

EC But the Desktop is setup 'exactly' the same way. An there I can send
EC out my mails. To add is that on the Notebook I still can receive
EC mails.

Really exactly the same? Especially the authentication for the SMTP
server? It sounds as if your desktop box is set up to use SMTP-Auth (or
POPbeforeSMTP) and your Notebook is not.

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Re: Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Eddie,

On Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 11:24:42 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

EC But the Desktop is setup 'exactly' the same way. An there I can send
EC out my mails.

Maybe the server dislike your notebooks IP for relaying. Ask the servers
administrator why your Notebook is not allowed to use the SMTP as relaying
host. He should know about that.
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Re: Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear Lars, 

 --- Lars Geiger / Donnerstag, 25.07.2002, 11:31:31
Can' relay !


A big hug ;-)

 Really exactly the same? Especially the authentication for the SMTP
 server? It sounds as if your desktop box is set up to use SMTP-Auth
 (or POPbeforeSMTP) and your Notebook is not.

No it was 'not exactly'. it missed - you wrote it - the SMTP-Auth.

Now all is fine :-))


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I cannot get off this list!

2002-07-25 Thread Julian Knight

Hello all,

I've been trying a while to get off this list using the commands at
the bottom of the emails on the list but I am still getting messages.

Anyone out there who can help?

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Re: Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear Peter, 

 --- Peter Palmreuther / Donnerstag, 25.07.2002, 11:37:21
Can' relay !


 Maybe the server dislike your notebooks IP for relaying. Ask the
 servers administrator why your Notebook is not allowed to use the
 SMTP as relaying host. He should know about that.

Thanks Pit, Lars already gave me the right tip. Only my answer has not
yet reached the list.

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Re: Can' relay !

2002-07-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Lars,

@25 July 2002, 11:31 +0200 (10:31 UK time)  Lars Geiger [LG] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

LG Really exactly the same? Especially the authentication for the SMTP
LG server? It sounds as if your desktop box is set up to use SMTP-Auth (or
LG POPbeforeSMTP) and your Notebook is not.

Or it could be a simple IP address authentication on the server. The
IP of your desktop is in the permit list but the laptop is not?

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Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Alexander Levenetz

Hello everybody,


I didn't find an answer to my question, therefore forgive me if it has
been answered already. This is gonna be a little bit longer:

Lets say I have a Unix-Server (very basic), a WinXP desktop on which
TB! is running and a laptop that also has TB! running. The desktop,
though, is the one that fetches and then stores the mails locally (in
TB!, obviously). I could (and I do so when I'm gone) of course also
download the mails to my laptop but I do not want to do so when I am
mainly working with my desktop as that would mean incomplete accounts:
some mails on the desktop, some on the laptop. But as it would
sometimes be more convenient to just check the mails with my laptop
instead of going to the desktop, I was wondering if there is any way
that I could have the laptop kind of check out TB! on my desktop, if
you understand what I am trying to say. :-)
Of course I could set up TB! on the laptop that way that it leaves the
mail on the server so they will then be deleted by the desktop-TB!
when fetching them but that wouldn't help for those mails that have
already been fetched by the desktop. Plus sent mails (via the laptop)
wouldn't appear in my desktop-TB! and so on. Synchronizing in this
scenario is not a way to go, too much of a hassle. The server doesn't
seem to help here as I can't think of a way to use it for solving my
problem.
There is, though, such a thing called TCP/IP or Dial-out server for TB!
instead of TCP/IP Workstation (the way it is set up right now).
Would that help me? As far as I understand it wouldn't: Mail requested
by the client (= laptop) would not be stored on the server (= desktop)
_as its own mail_ but as mail for the client. But the client and the
server are (should!) actually the same, at least email-wise. So this
doesn't seem to help me (haven't tried it, though, as I can't risk a
mess). What I would need is some kind of a mirror-TB! on my laptop
when looking for mails - idealistically, the mails checked/read with
the laptop should then also be marked read on the desktop, the ones
deleted via the laptop should then be gone on the desktop, the ones
moved/answered etc. should be... and so on. But I guess that is simply
not possible without synchronizing? Unfortunately, the latter takes
way too long and is much too complicated for this pure convenience
problem.
But maybe somebody has a great idea? Thanks for your thoughts,

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Re: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Bernd Gauweiler

AL But maybe somebody has a great idea?

The great idea is called IMAP4, which provides server-side mailbox
folders to solve just the very problem you have.

Anything else (using some flavor of network shares between your notebook
and your desktop) is a kludge.

Looking forward to TB!2. Allegedly, improved IMAP support might be on
the plan...

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Re: Shttp problem - bug?

2002-07-25 Thread John Phillips




Hello Peter
You wrote  On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, at 11:26:10 [GMT +0200] (19:26:10 Thursday, 25 July 
2002 where I live):-

 Yes. A bug in the brain of author of that link. It should be 'https://'
 instead of 'shttp://' and The Bat! (and EVEN your browser) will recognize
 it correctly.

Thanks.  Probably a typo.

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Re: FAQ Submission: Re: Done - Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Markus,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 4:55:41 AM.

 regedit /e TheBatRegBU.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\rit

MG Is this the same command under all flavors of Windows, I recall there
MG were differences.

Good point,  My work was all done on W2k SP2.  Anyone have an answer?
Should be included in the FAQ if so...

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Re: another adress book question

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Dwight,

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DAC Is there a way to change the order of the groups? I can't seem to
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I don't know of a way, but if your spam group is 'spam', you can just
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Re: FAQ Submission: Re: Done - Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-25 Thread Allie C Martin

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PP Should be the same ... '/e' is known to me since Win95 and still
PP present in W2K ... maybe XP differs? Somebody who can tell
PP something about XP and 'regedit /e'???

It's the same for XP and Win2k. The same command works across all
Win32 windows.

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Re: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer

Hello Bernd,

Thursday, July 25, 2002, 12:26:21 PM, Bernd Gauweiler wrote:

 Looking forward to TB!2. Allegedly, improved IMAP support might be on
 the plan...

improoved IMAP Service is a MUST (!) Because at the moment there are
only very view Mail Clients really capable of full IMAP support. If
you go for Windows u have Mulberry (with the best IMO), Outlook (sucks
but has very good IMAP support), Netscape (4 has good, but shouldn't
be used anymore, 6 is like mozilla), Mozilla (dunno how good it is,
but it works quite fine), and well ... I think Eudora has too IMAP
support, but I can't say how good it is ...

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Re: Reply templates/Macros/PGP wrapping

2002-07-25 Thread Allie C Martin

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JA Use a combination like:

JA [Driver Template]
JA %COMMENT=%QUOTES%-
JA %SETPATTREGEXP=(?is-m)^(.*)\n$%-
JA %REGEXPMATCH=%-
JA %-%QINCLUDE=#wrap2#
JA %COMMENT=
JA [ End ]

Ok.

JA You can also solve the wrap2 adding extra blank line issue with:
JA http://www.mail-archive.com/tbtech@thebat.dutaint.com/msg02338.html

This works as well. Good.

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Re: FAQ Submission: Re: Done - Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Thanks Allie,

My MUA believes '(X-Mailer not set)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 7:56:45 AM.

PP Should be the same ... '/e' is known to me since Win95 and still
PP present in W2K ... maybe XP differs? Somebody who can tell
PP something about XP and 'regedit /e'???

ACM It's the same for XP and Win2k. The same command works across all
ACM Win32 windows.

Will let it stand as written then.  No need to mention tests were done
on Win2k.

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Re: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Alexander Levenetz

Hello,


 The great idea is called IMAP4, which provides server-side mailbox
 folders to solve just the very problem you have.

Meaning: if I had mail-server functionality on my server that has
IMAP4 capability I would be able to do just that? I guess I must admit
that I have no clue what the difference between POP3 and IMAP4 is...

This is interesting for me, because there is actually the possibility
for me to install IMAP4-mail-server software on my server. I should
then be able to use TB! already now without having to wait for v2 as I
can chose between POP3 and IMAP as protocols in TB! - or am I
misunderstanding something here?

 Anything else (using some flavor of network shares between your notebook
 and your desktop) is a kludge.

Ack...

 Looking forward to TB!2. Allegedly, improved IMAP support might be on
 the plan...

With the above mentioned working I would not have to wait for that,
would I?

Greetings,
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Re[2]: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Bernd Gauweiler

AL This is interesting for me, because there is actually the possibility
AL for me to install IMAP4-mail-server software on my server. I should
AL then be able to use TB! already now without having to wait for v2 as I
AL can chose between POP3 and IMAP as protocols in TB! - or am I
AL misunderstanding something here?

Let me try to get things straight:

Running an IMAP server on your local server is a cool idea, but you
will probably want to read your email from your ISP's (POP3) mail
account. Short of changing your ISP's mail technology, you might run
your own IMAP server, but you'd still need something that fetches mail
from your POP3 account and pushes it into your IMAP server. I'm certain
there are tools available for this, but I don't know of any. The
standard ix tools (fetchmail, sendmail, qmail, etc) can probably be
configured to do that; I somehow think your server runs Linux?

The reason for mentioning TB! V2 is that the current IMAP
support in TB! is limited to using IMAP as an alternative transport
protocol, alternative to POP3. Meaning, TB! connects to an IMAP server,
ignores all the nice ideas about server-side mail folders, and downloads
the messages to local folders. You may configure TB! so that it doesn't
delete the messages from the (IMAP) server, but it's not quite the same
thing.

Proper IMAP support means server-side folders. One can have multiple
clients open and they are synchronized automatically; a message that is
deleted in client 1 will disappear in client 2, a message written and
saved as draft will appear in all other open clients, etc. TB!
unfortunately isn't quite there yet.

Hope that helps.
Bernd

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Re[2]: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Bernd Gauweiler

CGS improoved IMAP Service is a MUST (!)

Don't tell me. Tell RitLabs.
Bernd


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Re[2]: No Exit

2002-07-25 Thread Lynn Turriff



Thursday, July 25, 2002, 1:46:28 AM, you wrote:




JP Hello Adam
JP You wrote  On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 22:54:57 [GMT -0230] (11:24:57 Thursday, 25 
July 2002 where I live):-

 Some tasks are now active
 Do you want to exit when they are finished?

 Yes// No //


JP IMO this is an annoying bug.  In my case Bat! thinks I am still trying to
JP download, when a bum connection has forced me to cancel the job.

JP Bat! will not close with this annoying message.

I've found it annoying, too, but yesterday when my server
was fouled somehow and TB pulled this trick, I was able to
hit 'abort' on the connection window, and sonofagun, it
did, and I was able to close it without killing it! On
close it said 'said 'server not ready' ... I wouldn't have
known that had I had to kill it.

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Palm AB Sync - Question/Poll

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Palm  The Bat! users,

If you are interested in syncing your Palm.AB with The Bat!'s Address
Book, please join the ptbsC group at Yahoo so we can find out what
features, etc. are wanted/needed.  Some things will be in Poll format,
others just in question format on the list.

A new poll has been created for the
Palm - The Bat! Sync Comments (ptbsC) group:

Is there a need to be able to overwrite 
the Palm or The Bat! Address books 
using the new ptbs Conduit?  (The ptbs 
Conduit will default to a full Sync.) 

  o No 
  o Yes - Palm.AB -- TB.AB 
  o Yes - TB.AB -- Palm.AB 
  o Yes - I would like both options 


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ptbsC/surveys?id=21571  

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are 
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups 
web site listed above.

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Re: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Alexander Levenetz

Hello Bernd,


 Running an IMAP server on your local server is a cool idea, but you
 will probably want to read your email from your ISP's (POP3) mail
 account.

Ack.

 Short of changing your ISP's mail technology,

Oh well, maybe... ;-)

 you might run your own IMAP server, but you'd still need something
 that fetches mail from your POP3 account and pushes it into your
 IMAP server. I'm certain there are tools available for this,

AFAIK my server application (which is still beta) actually already is
or then definitely will be able to do that.

 I somehow think your server runs Linux?

Sort of, yes: www.eisfair.org

 The reason for mentioning TB! V2 is that the current IMAP support in
 TB! is limited to using IMAP as an alternative transport protocol,
 alternative to POP3. Meaning, TB! connects to an IMAP server,
 ignores all the nice ideas about server-side mail folders, and
 downloads the messages to local folders.

Having read your explanation below then this present IMAP-support of
TB! is useless. At least they have the name in there; that's a
start... ;-)

 Proper IMAP support means server-side folders. One can have
 multiple clients open and they are synchronized automatically; a
 message that is deleted in client 1 will disappear in client 2, a
 message written and saved as draft will appear in all other open
 clients, etc.

That is exactly what I am looking for. Who/what would synchronize
the clients - that could actually only be the IMAP-server? I haven't
really understood the technical side so far but: I do need
IMAP(v2)-support in TB! for using it the way described even with
having an IMAP-application running on my server, is that correct? If
so, well, then I got to be patient, maybe a beta is going to be
available soon, haven't heard anything lately, though.

Thanks for you explanation! IDH (it did help ;-) )

Greetings,
Alexander



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Files Extensions

2002-07-25 Thread joeo

Hi All,

What are the following file extensions and why would I want them to be
associated to the BAT?

.VCF
.EML
.MSG


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Re: Files Extensions

2002-07-25 Thread Adam Rykala

  
Hi joeo, 
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, at 10:54:22 [GMT -0400] (15:54 where I live) you wrote:

j Hi All,

j What are the following file extensions and why would I want them to be
j associated to the BAT?

j .VCF

VCards - Electronic Business Cards

j .EML
j .MSG

Possible seperate emails saved off

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Re: Files Extensions

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Adam,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 11:02:06 AM.

AR Hi joeo,  On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, at 10:54:22 [GMT -0400] (15:54
AR where I live) you wrote:

j Hi All,

j What are the following file extensions and why would I want them to be
j associated to the BAT?

j .VCF

AR VCards - Electronic Business Cards

Info about vCards here http://www.imc.org/pdi/

j .EML
j .MSG

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Help with ebay regex, please!

2002-07-25 Thread Andreas Schwartmann

Hello, Bat fans,

for a while I have used this reg-macro to create an auto-reply message to
my ebay.de partners:

%TO=
%TO='%setpattregexp=(?i)(E-Mail-Adresse des 
Käufers\w+\:\s+)(.*?\n)%RegExpBlindMatch=%Text%SUBPATT=2'

This worked to automatically direkt the auto-reply to the buyer. Now
ebay has changed something and it does not work anymore. The ebay
message now reads as follows:


E-Mail-Adresse des Verkäufers:
Name:
Strasse:
Postleitzahl:
Ort:
Mitgliedsname des Käufers:
E-Mail-Adresse des Käufers:


What's suddenly wrong with my regex template?


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Re: Help with ebay regex, please!

2002-07-25 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Andreas,
On Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 19:43:47 [GMT +0200], you wrote:

AS %TO=
AS %TO='%setpattregexp=(?i)(E-Mail-Adresse des 
Käufers\w+\:\s+)(.*?\n)%RegExpBlindMatch=%Text%SUBPATT=2'
^^^

I'd say this part is the problem. You expect one or more alphanumeric
characters to be at this place, but there isn't. The colon is directly
after the word Käufer.

AS The ebay message now reads as follows:

AS [Unnecessary bits snipped]
AS E-Mail-Adresse des Käufers:

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Re: I cannot get off this list!

2002-07-25 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:38:33[GMT +0100]   (5:38 AM EDST) Julian Knight
wrote:

 Hello all,

 I've been trying a while to get off this list using the commands at
 the bottom of the emails on the list but I am still getting messages.

 Anyone out there who can help?

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Re[2]: Files Extensions

2002-07-25 Thread joeo

Hi Adam,

Thanks to you,Tim and everyone for the help!

Best regards,
 
 Joe O   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, July 25, 2002, 11:02:06 AM, you wrote:

  
 Hi joeo, 
 On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, at 10:54:22 [GMT -0400] (15:54 where I live) you wrote:

j Hi All,

j What are the following file extensions and why would I want them to be
j associated to the BAT?

j .VCF

 VCards - Electronic Business Cards

j .EML
j .MSG

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Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Anthony Xin Chen


Hello All,

I would like to remove duplicate messages, cross posting to
multiple mailing lists I am on, in an incoming filter. But I am running
out ideas.

Any suggestion?




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Re: Palm AB Sync - Question/Poll

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Tim,

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problem with an account

2002-07-25 Thread GeXuS

Hi, has anyone problems whit an account after your PC reboots
withouth being properly shutdown?
i think thats what happened to me because i see like 50 mails in the
trash can, but when i click on it, nothing. and when i try to empty
the folder, the bat! hangs and i have to kill the process. every thing
else works fine.. so the account database might be damaged.
is there any way to fix this?? i don't care about the messeges, just
to fix that..
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Re: Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Anthony.

At 2:33 PM on Thursday, July 25, 2002 you wrote the
following about [Filter to remove duplicate messages]:

AXC I would like to remove duplicate messages, cross
AXC posting to multiple mailing lists I am on, in an
AXC incoming filter. But I am running out ideas.

  If no one comes up w a filter, you can always resort to
  the main menu: Folder - Kill Dupes in all Folders

  HTH

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Re: Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Thursday, July 25, 2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote...

AXC I would like to remove duplicate messages, cross
AXC posting to multiple mailing lists I am on, in an
AXC incoming filter. But I am running out ideas.

   If no one comes up w a filter, you can always resort to
   the main menu: Folder - Kill Dupes in all Folders

That shouldn't work (I think) as the two emails will be different, ie,
one will come in from one source, while the other from another... this
would mean they aren't duplicate emails (duplicates being identical
emails including headers, body etc).

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Re: problem with an account

2002-07-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@25 July 2002, 17:45 -0300 (21:45 UK time)  GeXuS [G] in
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G .. so the account database might be damaged.
G is there any way to fix this?? i don't care about the messeges, just
G to fix that..

Use Windows explorer and delete the tbi file in the Trash folder.
Start up TB and see if that has fixed it. If not, exit TB, and this
time delete the tbb file (since you say there's nothing precious in
there anyway). That should do it.

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Re: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer

Hello Bernd,

Thursday, July 25, 2002, 3:59:37 PM, Bernd Gauweiler wrote:

CGS improoved IMAP Service is a MUST (!)

 Don't tell me. Tell RitLabs.

I know, I always hope some guys from RitLabs are reading the list :)
and my begging for a good IMAP Support.

Best regards, Clemens
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Re[2]: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Clemens,
 


Friday, July 26, 2002 at 12:03:10 AM you wrote:


CGS I know, I always hope some guys from RitLabs are reading the list :)
CGS and my begging for a good IMAP Support.

Hope and begging is good.

Writing directly to them is better ;-)


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Re: Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Anthony Xin Chen


Hello Jonathan,

On 25 Jul 2002 16:11:40  (my local time 14:11:40), Jonathan Angliss wrote
(in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

AXC I would like to remove duplicate messages, cross posting to
AXC multiple mailing lists I am on, in an incoming filter. But I am
AXC running out ideas.

 If no one comes up w a filter, you can always resort to the main menu:
 Folder - Kill Dupes in all Folders

I know this trick and it works. But I am lazy so I would like to automate
it;-)

 That shouldn't work (I think) as the two emails will be different

They are the same if the mailing lists are hosted by the same server, for
example yahoo groups, or company internal mailing lists.







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Re[2]: Help with ebay regex, please!

2002-07-25 Thread Andreas Schwartmann

Hi, Bat folks,

on  Thu, 25 Jul 2002 at 19:59:53 GMT +0200 (which was Thursday, July
25, 2002, 19:59 where I live) Lars Geiger wrote the following lines
regarding Help with ebay regex, please!:

LG Hi Andreas,
LG On Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 19:43:47 [GMT +0200], you wrote:

AS %TO=
AS %TO='%setpattregexp=(?i)(E-Mail-Adresse des 
Käufers\w+\:\s+)(.*?\n)%RegExpBlindMatch=%Text%SUBPATT=2'
LG ^^^

LG I'd say this part is the problem. You expect one or more alphanumeric
LG characters to be at this place, but there isn't. The colon is directly
LG after the word Käufer.

I've changed the regex to

%TO='%setpattregexp=(?i)(E-Mail-Adresse des 
Käufe\w+\:\s+)(.*?\n)%RegExpBlindMatch=%Text%SUBPATT=2'


but it still does not work. :-(

What else could be wrong?


Take care,
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Re: Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, July 25, 2002, 5:30:37 PM, Anthony Xin Chen wrote:


 They are the same if the mailing lists are hosted by the same server, for
 example yahoo groups, or company internal mailing lists.

no. they will have different from addresses and/or reply to addresses.

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Re: Scenario: is that possible?

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Britt,

My MUA believes 'SecureBat! (Malka)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 6:07:23 PM.

CGS I know, I always hope some guys from RitLabs are reading the list :)
CGS and my begging for a good IMAP Support.

BM Hope and begging is good.

BM Writing directly to them is better ;-)

...and submitting to the wish list at the Bug Reports: site (see
footers) is the best choice of all. That way it is tracked...

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Re: Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Jonathan,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 5:11:40 PM.

AXC I would like to remove duplicate messages, cross posting to
AXC multiple mailing lists I am on, in an incoming filter. But I am
AXC running out ideas.

   If no one comes up w a filter, you can always resort to
   the main menu: Folder - Kill Dupes in all Folders

JA That shouldn't work (I think) as the two emails will be different, ie,
JA one will come in from one source, while the other from another... this
JA would mean they aren't duplicate emails (duplicates being identical
JA emails including headers, body etc).

Now, that is interesting. I thought dups were determined by the
references in the kludges. So if I put tbot on the To: line, I will
get 2 of this msg. Now, will kill dups kill one? Let's see...

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Re: Help with ebay regex, please!

2002-07-25 Thread Allie C Martin

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AS I've changed the regex to



AS but it still does not work. :-(

AS What else could be wrong?

Try this one:

%TO='%setpattregexp=(?i)(E-Mail-Adresse des %-
Käufer\s*\:\s*)(.*?\n)%RegExpBlindMatch=%Text%SUBPATT=2'

There's no character after Kaufer. I guess a space could be placed
there, so I placed a \s* to match zero or more spaces. The same thing
after the colon.

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Re: Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 18:08, Tim Musson wrote:

 Now, that is interesting. I thought dups were determined by the
 references in the kludges. So if I put tbot on the To: line, I will
 get 2 of this msg. Now, will kill dups kill one? Let's see...

When you say references, do you mean To, msgid, From etc? Msgid's can be
changed by servers (not often the case, but does happen sometimes), the
rest I guess is fixed ;)  If however you mean references as in the
X-References and X-Reply-To headers, then no... they don't appear on new
messages ;)  But I guess you're right, we'll find out when you post your
findings shortly ;)

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Re: Filter to remove duplicate messages

2002-07-25 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Anthony Xin Chen [AXC] wrote:

AXC I would like to remove duplicate messages, cross posting to
AXC multiple mailing lists I am on, in an incoming filter. But I am
AXC running out ideas.

AFAIK, this cannot be done since the only reference we can make to
other information when filtering is with the address book. There's no
option to filter based on what's in the message list which in your
case would be messages having the same message id as the incoming
message.

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