Re[3]: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Carren Stuart]

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On Tuesday, 15 October 2002 at 5:34 p.m. Alexander wrote: 


AAG> Well, thank You for You Ali and other guys for taking time to
AAG> write answers. Yes, I guess everybody knows about PGPtray hotkeys
AAG> BUT it CAN"T be compared with suitability of plug-in work.
AAG> Especially when reading PGPed mail 20-30 messages per day.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. I use PGP 6.5.8ckt version, and tried
the plugin for some time. In the end I went back to the using the tray
as it was just as quick and was what I was used to. The difference in
time it takes to carry out any operation using either the plugin or
the tray/hotkeys is negligible in my opinion.
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Re: Backup without Maintenance Center

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Monday, October 14, 2002, 19:13, Anthony Xin Chen wrote:

>> First thing I do is export the Rit registry key into my TB directory.

> Do you do this manually or automatically by scripting? If latter, how
> do you do that?

I know Thomas has already posted a solution, but to make it simpler for
those confused by all commands, type the following at a command prompt
or in a batch file:

regedit.exe /e thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT

Change "thebat.reg" to whatever you want, including a path if you do not
want the file to end up in the current directory.

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Re: NOD32

[William Moore]

 Hello Chris

 Thank you for your email dated Tuesday, October 15, 2002, 4:18:28 AM, in which you 
wrote:

CW> What exact part of the program scans internet downloads/pages downloaded
CW> from the net?
Amon, the white box with the red cross, scans every file opened, created
or executed. These actions are configurable. Pages from the net, as
such, are not scanned as far as I'm aware by any AV. Viruses only do
their thing if the file containing them are executed. If I'm wrong on
this I'm sure I'll be corrected :-)

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Re: Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Taylor-Davies [CTD] wrote:'

CTD> Curiously PGP 8 gives the following result when validating your
CTD> messagee. Do you know if this is a version 8 problem?

No problem. The output is just fine.

CTD> *** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION ***
CTD> *** Status:   Good Signature

This means the signature check came up Good. This means the message
hasn't been tampered with since I signed it.

CTD>  from Invalid Key
CTD> *** Alert:Please verify signer's key before trusting signature.

The key being deemed 'invalid' really means that you haven't
indicated in PGP, that you trust that the key you used to verify my
signature really belongs to me. Usually you do this by signing the
key. Usually you don't sign unless you have good enough reason to
believe that the key you have is really mine.

CTD> *** Signer:   Allie Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (0x2B0717E2)
 ^
You're using an old copy of my key since I no longer use that e-mail
address.

You can get a new copy from the link provided in my signature.

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Re: Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Jonathan Angliss]

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On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, Christopher Taylor-Davies wrote...

> Curiously PGP 8 gives the following result when validating your
> messagee. Do you know if this is a version 8 problem?

> *** Status:   Good Signature from Invalid Key
> *** Alert:Please verify signer's key before trusting signature.

Read the message carefully... now go into PGP and verify Allie's key
(sign it yourself with non-exportable signature).. then reverify the
signature :)  See what happens.

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Re: Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Christopher Taylor-Davies]

On Monday, October 14, 2002, 4:11:33 PM, Allie wrote:

> You can configure the PGP hotkeys to carry out the clipboard options
> for you. Going to the menu's every time is tedious. However, hitting
> the hotkeys aren't.

Curiously PGP 8 gives the following result when validating your
messagee. Do you know if this is a version 8 problem?

*** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION ***
*** Status:   Good Signature from Invalid Key
*** Alert:Please verify signer's key before trusting signature.
*** Signer:   Allie Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (0x2B0717E2)
*** Signed:   14/10/2002 16:11:31
*** Verified: 15/10/2002 07:03:42
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***



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Re[2]: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Allie and Batmans,

On Tuesday, October 15, 2002 Allie wrote:

> You can configure the PGP hotkeys to carry out the clipboard options
> for you. Going to the menu's every time is tedious. However, hitting
> the hotkeys aren't.

Well, thank You for You Ali and other guys for taking time to write
answers. Yes, I guess everybody knows about PGPtray hotkeys BUT it CAN"T
be compared with suitability of plug-in work. Especially when reading PGPed mail 20-30
messages per day.



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Re[2]: NOD32

[Joseph N.]

   On Monday, October 14, 2002, Chris Weaven wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

CW> What exact part of the program scans internet downloads/pages
CW> downloaded from the net?

There's no separate web module, nor any need for the extra resource
use.  The "Amon" module, which is the real-time scanner, can be set to
scan any combination of the following file events:  open; execute;
create; and rename.  Those should cover Internet downloads as well,
particularly if the option to scan archive files (such as .zip files)
is enabled.

CW> Is there also a part that scans for trojans?

Any of the better "antivirus" programs scans for more than just
viruses.  They scan for malicious code; some of those codes are
viruses; some (a lot) are worms; and some are trojans.  There are
those who will say that a trojan scanner is a good backstop defense to
run along with an AV program.  If you're interested in that, you might
check out TDS.  Others have decided that the resource usage is too
great a price to pay when you can have a good "AV" program and a good
firewall, and thereby keep both an effective perimeter and an
effective code-killer.

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Re: NOD32

[Chris Weaven]

Hi Marck,

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002 10:13 your local time, which was 02:13 my
local time, Marck Pearlstone [MDP] wrote;

CW>> 1. AVG with plug-in to TB! to prevent mail virus'

MDP> I use and like this myself.

But don't you find it frustrating having to restart the machine every
time you install new virus definitions?

CW>> 3. Firewall (Program to be decided)

MDP> I use Kerio Personal Firewall. Not on my laptop but on the server I
MDP> use as a proxy.

I'm currently running Sygate. Very similar to Kerio and it seems to work
well at the moment (well, it hasn't flashed any serious warnings up!
Something that used to bug me about ZoneAlarm!)

Chris

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Re: NOD32

[Chris Weaven]

Hi,

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002 07:34 your local time, which was Monday,
October 7, 2002 at 23:34 my local time, William Moore [WM] wrote;

CW>> Do you have all 3 items present in your system tray?
WM> Yes.

What exact part of the program scans internet downloads/pages downloaded
from the net?

Is there also a part that scans for trojans?

Chris.

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Re: NOD32

[Melissa Reese]

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On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 5:56:59 PM PST, Chris Weaven wrote:

> One further question, when you update the virus definitions, do you
> then need to re-start the machine? That's something that really bugs
> me about AVG!

No  :-)

Melissa
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Re: NOD32

[Chris Weaven]

Hi William,

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002 06:21 your local time, which was Monday,
October 7, 2002 at 22:21 my local time, William Moore [WM] wrote;

CW>> I've decided to give
CW>> NOD32 a go on the 25 day trial.
WM> You've made the right choice, IMHO. I've found nothing to touch it. You
WM> can find the manual for POP integration here
WM> http://www.nod32.com/download/manual.htm

One further question, when you update the virus definitions, do you then
need to re-start the machine? That's something that really bugs me about
AVG!

Chris.

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Re: Addressbook

[Adam]

Hello Raj,

What I wonder is if I click on this last message, I can add you, Raj,
to my addressbook. But, I notice now that there is a Group listed
under Groups. And I have no idea how/why that should be. Something is
deciding this.

Also, I would assume that all new addressbook entries are added at the
bottom of the list?

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Re: Backup without Maintenance Center

[Alexander Cicovic]

Hello there,

Monday, October 14, 2002, 5:30:20 PM, Thomas F. wrote:

AC>> The Bat!'s options/settings are probably located in the registry.
AC>> I do not plan to back them up.

TF> And why not?

It's more a kind of habit.  For some reason, I do not like backing
up and restoring registry keys.  I prefer to make the settings
manually from scratch.  That way, I also have a second chance to
look at all of them and possibly make some changes.  Of course, it
is not time effective, but that's the way I do it. :)



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My CC filter goof ...

[Shane R. Monroe]

I apologize to the list for my CC filter trigger sending you all my
lecture on carbon copying.

I cleaned up my filters this weekend, and inadvertently removed the
one precluding THE BAT mailing list from that particular filter
(designed to keep me off the seasonal ELF BOWLING and KICK BABY AOL
mailing lists).

I have since remedied the issue and it shall not happen again.

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Re: Hyperlinks

[Jonathan Angliss]

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On Monday, October 14, 2002, Joseph N. wrote...

> I've just created a set of filters, QT's, and templates to structure
> a temporary information exchange based on auto-replies. The
> templates have a mailto: link. It's not possible, though, to make
> that intricate link appear as simple as, for example, "click here,"
> right? In other words, TB!, as a text mailer, cannot "code" one
> string of text as a hyperlink, the way, e.g., a good word processor
> can, correct?

No... the method used to create the "Click Here" links is html, and
TB! doesn't mail out in that format, although can read it.

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Hyperlinks

[Joseph N.]

I've just created a set of filters, QT's, and templates to structure a
temporary information exchange based on auto-replies. The templates
have a mailto: link. It's not possible, though, to make that intricate
link appear as simple as, for example, "click here," right? In other
words, TB!, as a text mailer, cannot "code" one string of text as a
hyperlink, the way, e.g., a good word processor can, correct?

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Re: Backup without Maintenance Center

[Thomas F.]

Hello Anthony,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:13:31 -0700 GMT (15/10/02, 00:13 +0700 GMT),
Anthony Xin Chen wrote:

>> First thing I do is export the Rit registry key into my
>> TB directory.

AXC> Do you do this manually or automatically by scripting? If latter, how
AXC> do you do that?

The latter, with a batch file Januk (where is he, anyway?) wrote a
while ago and posted on this list.

Here it is:



@echo off
rem Written by Januk Aggarwal
cls
echo Welcome to your The Bat! Registry Backup program.
echo
echo  ___
echo *   *
echo *1. Back up my registry NOW!!   *
echo *2. Don't you dare!  Get me outta here! *
echo *   *
echo *___*
echo.
choice /c:12
if errorlevel 2 goto end
if errorlevel 1 goto begin

:begin
echo.
echo Good choice, I'm just checking for previous backup attempts.
echo.
echo.
if not exist TBbckup2.reg goto continue
echo Your previous backup is being stored in TBbckup2.reg
echo.
if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg

:continue
if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg
start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!"
echo.
if not exist TBbckup1.reg echo Error!  Something went wrong.  Backup not
echo successful.
if exist TBbckup1.reg echo Success! Your registry entries for The Bat! are
echo backed up!
echo.

:end
echo.
echo Thank you for using this backup utility.
echo.
exit



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Re: Strange threading

[Luc]

 Good evening Leif,
  
It was foretold that on 14-10-2002 @ 12:10:36 GMT-0600 (which was
20:10:36 where I live) Leif Gregory spread these wise comments:
  

LG> I know exactly what you're talking about. 
  
 You've described it exactly 
 I'll try your solutions out. Tnx!
 But i do hope Allie can give another solution so i can use the
 thread like i'm used to it.
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Re: Strange threading

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Luc, 

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 at 16:27:18 [GMT +0200], you wrote:
L> I recently subscribed to a list and the threading is really
L> peculiar: if i go to an unread thread, TB! opens the thread and
L> goes automatically to the last unread message at the bottom of the
L> thread. Now, i never had this happening with other lists so i was
L> wondering if it's a setting a overlooked or just the way that list
L> handles threading?

I know exactly what you're talking about. It's never really bothered
me, so I've never checked to see what causes it.

What happens is if you have it threaded by reference in ascending
order (like created date), and you are on a single message (non
thread), with a threaded message above it, then you do something like
delete that single message, it will automatically expand the thread
that was right above it and focus on the last message in that thread.
e.g.

+ Some other threaded messages
+ Some threaded messages
  A single message not in a thread

If you delete "A single message not in a thread", it looks like this:

+ Some other threaded messages
- Some threaded messages
  + Some sub thread
  - Another sub thread
Message that gets focus

I don't know if that's considered bad behavior or not. I guess if it
bugs you, then it is. 

I think Allie might have the solution when he said to sort decending
instead of ascending, but I prefer to read top down in threads (newer
messages at the bottom), vs. non-threads, which I do in descending
order (new messages at the top).

What I generally do when reading threads in to look at the first
message in a thread, then holding the shift key down, I hit the right
arrow, this opens the thread, focuses the next message in the thread,
and highlights those two messages, and I continue doing this till the
whole thread is then expanded and highlighted, then I hit the delete
key which deletes the whole thread leaving me focused on the first
message of the next collapsed thread below it.

Works for me! 


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Re: Strange threading

[Luc]

 Good evening Allie,
  
It was foretold that on 14-10-2002 @ 13:02:25 GMT-0500 (which was
20:02:25 where I live) Allie C Martin spread these wise comments:
  

ACM> You could send me off-list, a MIME attached sample of the
ACM> messages in one of your 'broken' threads.
  
 K. I will
 
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Re[2]: Setting Global Account Settings & sharing filters acrosscomputers

[Scott McNay]

Hi, Leif!

Monday, October 14, 2002, 12:50:30 PM, you wrote:

SM>> What's wrong with doing it the way you do it now, mark, copy,
SM>> paste it to the filter list. I mean, how often do you change your

LG> In the context of grabbing a filter someone posts, I *totally* agree.
LG> In the context of Alists message where you might be the recipient of
LG> maybe 20 to 30 filters, that's a lot of geek read to decide if it's a
LG> filter you want to "install".

Yes, imagine a filter trojan that just deletes your email for you, all
because  you  imported someone else's filters without looking at them.
I'd  prefer to mark-copy-paste.  It can be used for bulk-importing, so
why make something new to replace something that doesn't have anything
wrong  with it, aside from the difficulty of telling newbies how to do
it.

I  think  an  option  to  bulk-export would be very nice, and also the
master  account  idea,  ad  I'd like for the "continue processing with
other  filters"  option  to  continue  to work after moving a message,
including when moving a message to another account (in which case it'd
restart  from  the  top. You'd need loop-detection code to prevent the
message  from  being  moved back to the same folder that it came from,
though.

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Re: Strange threading

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Luc [L] wrote:'

L> You've lost me. View/message list? I don't have that option as
L> far as i can see. And all my settings are the same as for my
L> other folders. I'm looking at my threads in the "default"
L> lay-out: leftside folder list, right view the threads,
L> underneath: the preview pane.

Ok. This means that you aren't using a View Folder window as you
said you were. The View Folder window is the window that comes up
when you double click on any message within the folder list.

At the moment, I don't know why you're having the problem that you
are. You could send me off-list, a MIME attached sample of the
messages in one of your 'broken' threads. In this way, I could
better appreciate what you mean.

L> FYI, because i'm not English, the "View" & "Window" terminology
L> is sometimes confusing for me.

No problem. It confuses even those who use English as their first
language. :)

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Re: Setting Global Account Settings & sharing filters acrosscomputers

[Leif Gregory]

Hello alists, 

On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 at 11:40:05 [GMT -0700], you wrote:
awc> maintain..but if you're on 2 machines pretty regulary (like one
awc> client I'm trying to get off OE and onto TB!)... it would really
awc> simplify things..

Oh, don't get me wrong. I do see a huge value added in being able to
"export" in some fashion some or even all the filters in an account
which could be e-mailed or such to another machine. I would just
prefer to have some level of interactivity in determining which of the
(such as in my case 50+ filters) to "import".


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Re: Strange threading

[Luc]

 Good evening Allie,
  
It was foretold that on 14-10-2002 @ 11:38:54 GMT-0500 (which was
18:38:54 where I live) Allie C Martin spread these wise comments:
  

ACM> Do you have the view folders own message list in view (View/Message
ACM> List). If not, then this is your problem.
You've lost me. View/message list? I don't have that option as far as
i can see. And all my settings are the same as for my other folders.
I'm looking at my threads in the "default" lay-out: leftside folder
list, right view the threads, underneath: the preview pane.
FYI, because i'm not English, the "View" & "Window" terminology is
sometimes confusing for me.
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Re: Setting Global Account Settings & sharing filters acrosscomputers

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Scott, 

On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 at 13:16:09 [GMT -0500], you wrote:
SM> What's wrong with doing it the way you do it now, mark, copy,
SM> paste it to the filter list. I mean, how often do you change your
SM> filters? It's not like you do it every day or whatever.

In the context of grabbing a filter someone posts, I *totally* agree.
In the context of Alists message where you might be the recipient of
maybe 20 to 30 filters, that's a lot of geek read to decide if it's a
filter you want to "install".


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Re: Backup without Maintenance Center

[Anthony Xin Chen]

Hi All,

On 14 Oct 2002 21:30:20  (my local time 07:30:20), Thomas F. wrote
(in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

> First thing I do is export the Rit registry key into my
> TB directory.

Do you do this manually or automatically by scripting? If latter, how
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Re: Strange threading

[Allie C Martin]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Luc [L] wrote:'

L>  View Folder window

Do you have the view folders own message list in view (View/Message
List). If not, then this is your problem. The view folder window
follows its own message list and not the main window's.

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Re: Strange threading

[Luc]

 Good evening Allie,
  
It was foretold that on 14-10-2002 @ 11:26:38 GMT-0500 (which was
18:26:38 where I live) Allie C Martin spread these wise comments:
  

ACM> Are you browsing the messages from the main window or from a View
ACM> Folder window?
  
 View Folder window
 
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Re: Strange threading

[Allie C Martin]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Luc [L] wrote:'

L> I know, but the problem occurs before reading a message: i goes
L> directly to the last message without me even putting the focus on
L> the thread. It's the first time i encountered this problem.
L> Strange huh?

I suspect that you may have overlooked something.

Are you browsing the messages from the main window or from a View
Folder window?

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Re: Strange threading

[Luc]

 Good evening Allie,
  
It was foretold that on 14-10-2002 @ 11:02:49 GMT-0500 (which was
18:02:49 where I live) Allie C Martin spread these wise comments:
  

ACM> It contains reference headers, so threading by references should
ACM> work. Do you delete messages within the threads. This may break the
ACM> threading

I know, but the problem occurs before reading a message: i goes
directly to the last message without me even putting the focus on the
thread. It's the first time i encountered this problem. Strange huh?

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Re: Strange threading

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Luc [L] wrote:'

L> yep, the folder properties are set to use the account default column
L> settings.

L> Here's the header:

It contains reference headers, so threading by references should
work. Do you delete messages within the threads. This may break the
threading if the clients involved do not contain enough of the
previous message id's in the headers.

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Thanks, that did it (was Re: How to set TB as default mail client inMozilla 1.1)

[Tim Musson]

Hey Lars,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta5) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Monday, October 14, 2002 at 8:35:50 AM.

LG> As long as Mozilla's Mail application is installed, it is used be
LG> default for mailto: links. There are 2 possibilities to change this
LG> behaviour:

LG> 1.)  Install Mozilla with a custom installation and leave out the Mail
LG>  client.

LG> 2.)  Add the following line to your user.js file in your Profiles
LG>  directory:

LG>user_pref("network.protocol-handler.external.mailto", true);

Reminds me of Netsacpe!  Thanks, the prefs.js file change worked!

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Re: Strange threading

[Luc]

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 Good afternoon Allie,

It was foretold that on 14-10-2002 @ 10:23:18 GMT-0500 (which was
17:23:18 where I live) Allie C Martin spread these wise comments:


ACM> What are you threading by, i.e., references, subject etc.?
references of course ;-)

ACM> What is your sorting order?
descending

ACM> Is it the same as that for your other threaded list folders?
yep, the folder properties are set to use the account default column
settings.

Here's the header:
X-Apparently-To: XXX via XX; 13 Oct 2002 07:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Track: 2: 100
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from 216.92.1.97  (EHLO three.pairlist.net) (216.92.1.97)
  by mta509.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2002 07:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from three.pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1])
by three.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP
id C1F8220FFC; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:52:25 -0400 (EDT)
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from csor.pair.com (csor.pair.com [209.68.2.35])
by three.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3250E20F9B
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:51:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 6957 invoked by uid 3016); 13 Oct 2002 14:51:55 -
Delivered-To: westciv-westciv:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 6954 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2002 14:51:55 -
Received: from nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (24.29.99.228)
  by csor.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2002 14:51:55 -
Received: from [10.0.1.3] (24-168-36-151.nyc.rr.com [24.168.36.151])
by nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP 
id
g9DEq1aL014270
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:52:01 -0400 (EDT)
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1331
From: StoneMtn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Subject: [css-d] CSS Newbie site check(?)
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Precedence: bulk
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But i will try to use "subject" just to give it a go.

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Re: Strange threading

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Luc [L] wrote:'

L> Forgot to mention: it happens when i go from a read thread to the
L> next unread one that is above the last read.

What are you threading by, i.e., references, subject etc.?

What is your sorting order?

Is it the same as that for your other threaded list folders?

I always sort by threads and an in descending order by dates. This
threading method will work only if the list messages reliably
contain reference headers. I'm a member of a couple lists were this
isn't the case so I thread by subject.

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Re: TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Thomas F.]

Hello Gerard,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:30:27 +0200 GMT (14/10/02, 18:30 +0700 GMT),
Gerard wrote:

G> I don't see the problem. 5+95=101 unread msg.

I am glad you didn't mean that. Under this subject, your reply seemed
weird and I opened the URL just to see why such a summation would be
no problem.

Since I am not resolving the puzzle, I hope, Miguel, you have enough
bandwdith for over 500 (>600?) list members who are now all trying to
curiously access your site! ;-)

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Re: Hello to old friends and new

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ming-Li [ML] wrote:'

ML> It's taken much longer than I expected, but I've finally
ML> finished my study in the States and come back to Taiwan.

Congratulations!! :)

ML> After more or less settling down in my new life (it took a while
ML> to get used to the traffic here), it's about time to visit my
ML> old friends in cyberspace.

Yeah. We've missed your help and thoughtful contributions to these
lists.

ML> How's everyone? I miss you all!

The veterans are largely still here. Some still as active. Some not
so active.

ML> My new job is extremely demanding, so I might not be able to be
ML> as active as I used to be or as I want to. Still, I look forward
ML> to talking to you all.

A warm welcome-back to you, Ming, and I look forward to your future
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Re[2]: TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Scott McNay]

Hi, Miguel!

Monday, October 14, 2002, 6:54:19 AM, you wrote:

>> I think he is talking about the 75 in the highlighted folder...

MAU> Of course, that's what I mean.

I  saw  a  similar  problem with 1.61 when I was messing with filters.
Every  once  in  a  while, I would have a folder that I had marked all
messages  as  read, and I would go in and see that they were all read,
but the count would show that some were unread.

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Re: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Taylor-Davies [CTD] wrote:'

CTD> Oops - I was too quick off the mark. I have managed to make it
CTD> work using the Clipboard options on PGPTray. If there is any
CTD> more convenient method available I would be pleased to know!

You can configure the PGP hotkeys to carry out the clipboard options
for you. Going to the menu's every time is tedious. However, hitting
the hotkeys aren't.

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Re: Hello to old friends and new

[Thomas F.]

Hello Ming-Li,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:05:17 +0800 GMT (14/10/02, 20:05 +0700 GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:

ML> It's taken much longer than I expected, but I've finally finished
ML> my study in the States and come back to Taiwan. After more or less
ML> settling down in my new life (it took a while to get used to the
ML> traffic here), it's about time to visit my old friends in
ML> cyberspace.

Good to hear from you!

ML> How's everyone? I miss you all!

I left Taiwan and moved back to Thailand... too bad. But I still fly
over ever now and then and will let you know next time. Where are you?
Taipei?

ML> My new job is extremely demanding, so I might not be able to be as
ML> active as I used to be or as I want to. Still, I look forward to
ML> talking to you all.

My new job isn't demanding - I'm a student now. 

f'up2:poster

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Re: Backup without Maintenance Center

[Thomas F.]

Hello Alexander,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:26:25 +0300 GMT (14/10/02, 19:26 +0700 GMT),
Alexander Cicovic wrote:

AC> My aim is to backup the following, which should be included in the
AC> mail folder:

I backup the whole TB directory.

AC> The Bat!'s options/settings are probably located in the registry.
AC> I do not plan to back them up.

And why not? First thing I do is export the Rit registry key into my
TB directory. Only then do I zip and back up the whole directory. This
makes sure that everything is there.

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Re: unsubscribe

[Thomas F.]

Hello Laurita,

was it something I said?

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Re: Strange threading

[Luc]

 Good afternoon Luc,
  
It was foretold that on 14-10-2002 @ 16:27:18 GMT+0200 (which was
16:27:18 where I live) Luc spread these wise comments:
  

L> if  i  go  to  an  unread  thread,  TB!  opens  the  thread  and goes
L>  automatically to the last unread message at the bottom of the thread.
  
 Forgot  to  mention:  it  happens when i go from a read thread to the
 next unread one that is above the last read.
 
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Strange threading

[Luc]

 Good afternoon list,
   
 I recently subscribed to a list and the threading is really peculiar:
 if  i  go  to  an  unread  thread,  TB!  opens  the  thread  and goes
 automatically to the last unread message at the bottom of the thread.
 Now,  i  never had this happening with other lists so i was wondering
 if  it's  a  setting  a  overlooked or just the way that list handles
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Re: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

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On Monday, October 14, 2002, 3:06:32 PM, Christopher wrote:

> I have downloaded and installed PGP 8 Beta, but I am at a loss as to
> how to make PGPTray work with TB? If you were able to provide a few
> pointers that would be grand!

Oops - I was too quick off the mark. I have managed to make it work
using the Clipboard options on PGPTray. If there is any more
convenient method available I would be pleased to know!

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Re: mailto: link with specific subject line

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On Monday, October 14, 2002, Joseph N. wrote...

> How can I create, in an outgoing message, a mailto: link that will
> incorporate a specific subject line? I want to create a hot link
> that, when clicked by a recipient, will send an email message back
> to me, containing specific language in the subject field, thereby
> triggering an auto-reply. I've looked in the help file, but I cannot
> weld the mailto: link with the %subject macro so it all works right.

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=your%20subject%20here

Try double clicking on the above, and see if the yields the result you
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Re: mailto: link with specific subject line

[Britt Malka]

Dear Joseph,


Monday, October 14, 2002 at 4:17:06 PM you wrote:


JN> How can I create, in an outgoing message, a mailto: link that will
JN> incorporate a specific subject line?

Like this:




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Re: TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Tim,

MAU>> I do it every night. So, I did it last nigh.
>
> Well, then my only other thought is to upgrade to the current version.

A simple exit and restart of TB got the counts correct. It was no big
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mailto: link with specific subject line

[Joseph N.]

How can I create, in an outgoing message, a mailto: link that will
incorporate a specific subject line?  I want to create a hot link
that, when clicked by a recipient, will send an email message back to
me, containing specific language in the subject field, thereby
triggering an auto-reply.  I've looked in the help file, but I cannot
weld the mailto: link with the %subject macro so it all works right.

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Re: Hello to old friends and new

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Hi Shane,

@14-Oct-2002, 06:07 -0700 (14:07 UK time) Shane R. Monroe [SRM] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

SRM> YOUR MAIL HAS BEEN IGNORED! Please read below to see why.


I have written to Shane off-list and asked him to adjust his
auto-responder. No comments on this one on-list please, it's
obviously a mistake.


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Re: Hello to old friends and new

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Ming-Li,

@14-Oct-2002, 21:05 +0800 (14:05 UK time) Ming-Li [ML] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

ML> ... it's about time to visit my old friends in cyberspace.

Welcome back Ming-li. Good to hear from you again.

ML> How's everyone? I miss you all!

The lists are as busy as ever they were, but never too busy to hear
from an old friend, especially one as active and helpful as your
good self.

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Re: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Christopher Taylor-Davies]

On Monday, October 14, 2002, 2:33:37 PM, Nick wrote:


> There is a new PGP 8.0 Public Beta that is out, and by using PGPTray
> you can use that version with any Mail Client you want.

I have downloaded and installed PGP 8 Beta, but I am at a loss as to
how to make PGPTray work with TB? If you were able to provide a few
pointers that would be grand!


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Re[3]: How to set TB as default mail client in Mozilla 1.1

[Jeroen]

Hello tbudl,

Monday, October 14, 2002, 2:58:11 PM, you wrote:

DW> Ah, then the solution is not to have the Moz email client
DW> installed...the only downside I have found to that is that I can't
DW> email a page directly from Mozilla to someone - I can email the URL,
DW> or save the page to my pc & then mail it as an attachment, but I can't
DW> just "email this page" as I could with IE. Not a big enough problem to
DW> convince me to go back to IE though :-)

That's indeed the right answer. Uninstall Mozilla (your profile will
not be deleted) and reinstall WITHOUT mail/news support. The mozilla
guys are aware of this problem and it will be fixed asap.


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Re: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Alexander A. Gomanyuk,

On Monday, October 14 2002 at 04:12 AM PDT, you wrote:

>  Does anybody clear knows concerning subject ? Will The Bat! team
>   plan to do with working PGP 7.0 plug-in ?

Probably not, but why wait? You do not require a Plugin simply to use
whatever version of PGP or GPG you want. There is a new PGP 8.0 Public
Beta that is out, and by using PGPTray you can use that version with any
Mail Client you want. If on the other hand you want to try GPG, try using
it with GPGShell (PGPTray equivalent) on any Mail Client. Both PGP and GPG
coexist quite nicely on the same Machine.

-- 
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Creston, B.C. Canada
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Re: Hello to old friends and new

[Shane R. Monroe]

YOUR MAIL HAS BEEN IGNORED! Please read below to see why.

You have emailed me using Carbon Copy (CC) or by using multiple
recipients in the TO: field of your email.

What you are doing is giving MY email address away to all your friends
and everyone you emailed this message to.  You are also allowing
computers that relay email from your system to mine the opportunity to
steal and harvest my email for spam purposes.  This is a horrible
invasion of my privacy as well as everyone else you emailed.  Chances
are likely you didn't know this; that is why everyone who does it gets
this email to help them understand WHY as well as how to repair the
problem.

The proper way to send mail to multiple recipients is via BLIND CARBON
COPY (or BCC) in your email program.  I understand not everyone
understands how to do this, so here is a website that will spell it
out for you:

http://www.rrudder.com/safe/bcc.html
(Should this page disappear in the future, please let me know)

The email you sent here was put directly in the trash and this
message was sent in response to it.  I did NOT see your email.  If it
was important, please send it again.

Please note: If your program sends mail like this: Monroe, Shane
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> then you are triggering this message
invalidly.  Please contact me and I'll add you to an exclusion list so
you won't get this again.

Thanks!

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Hello to old friends and new

[Ming-Li]

Dear friends on TBUDL, TBBETA, and TBTECH,

(Sorry to those on several lists for cross-posting.)

It's taken much longer than I expected, but I've finally finished my study
in the States and come back to Taiwan. After more or less settling down in
my new life (it took a while to get used to the traffic here), it's about
time to visit my old friends in cyberspace.

How's everyone? I miss you all!

My new job is extremely demanding, so I might not be able to be as active as
I used to be or as I want to. Still, I look forward to talking to you all.

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Re[2]: How to set TB as default mail client in Mozilla 1.1

[Deborah W]

On Monday, October 14, 2002, 1:38:07 PM, Tim Musson wrote:

TM> Well, the reason I asked, is IE launches a new TB message from a
TM> MailTo: link, but Mozilla tries to launch it's own eMail Client -
TM> which then asks to be set up (I have canceled each time).


Ah, then the solution is not to have the Moz email client
installed...the only downside I have found to that is that I can't
email a page directly from Mozilla to someone - I can email the URL,
or save the page to my pc & then mail it as an attachment, but I can't
just "email this page" as I could with IE. Not a big enough problem to
convince me to go back to IE though :-)

-- 
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Re: TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Tim Musson]

Hey Miguel,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60c) Business' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Monday, October 14, 2002 at 7:54:19 AM.

>> Have you done a 'Folder\Purge All Folders' recently? IIRC that was
>> the recommendation before.

MAU> I do it every night. So, I did it last nigh.

Well, then my only other thought is to upgrade to the current version.

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Re: How to set TB as default mail client in Mozilla 1.1

[Tim Musson]

Hey Deborah,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Educational' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Monday, October 14, 2002 at 8:25:19 AM.

TM>> Working to switch from IE to Mozilla, but can't seem to find
TM>> where to tell Mozilla what my default eMail client is (TB of
TM>> course!). Can anyone help?

DW> I don't think this is something you set in Mozilla; I think it
DW> just uses your default email client automatically. At least, mine
DW> does :-)

Well, the reason I asked, is IE launches a new TB message from a
MailTo: link, but Mozilla tries to launch it's own eMail Client -
which then asks to be set up (I have canceled each time).

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Re: How to set TB as default mail client in Mozilla 1.1

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Tim,
On Monday, October 14, 2002 at 08:13:36 [GMT -0400], you wrote:

TM> Working to switch from IE to Mozilla,

Good choice... :-)

TM> but can't seem to find where to tell Mozilla what my default eMail
TM> client is (TB of course!). Can anyone help?

As long as Mozilla's Mail application is installed, it is used be
default for mailto: links. There are 2 possibilities to change this
behaviour:

1.)  Install Mozilla with a custom installation and leave out the Mail
 client.

2.)  Add the following line to your user.js file in your Profiles
 directory:

   user_pref("network.protocol-handler.external.mailto", true);

HTH

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Lars

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Re: Backup without Maintenance Center

[Alexander Cicovic]

Hello there,

Monday, October 14, 2002, 3:13:02 PM, Miguel A. Urech wrote:

MAU> I keep my Mail directory in a different disk (i.e. F:\TB\Mail) and
MAU> everything needed to recover seems to be there. I use Second Copy 2000
MAU> (http://www.centered.com/) to back up every night and, just with that,
MAU> I have been able to recover a couple of times.

That's very positive :)

My aim is to backup the following, which should be included in the
mail folder:

messages/folders
quick templates
rules
address book


The Bat!'s options/settings are probably located in the registry.
I do not plan to back them up.



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 Alexander Cicovic

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Re: How to set TB as default mail client in Mozilla 1.1

[Deborah W]

On Monday, October 14, 2002, 1:13:36 PM, Tim Musson wrote:

TM> Working to switch from IE to Mozilla, but can't seem to find where to
TM> tell Mozilla what my default eMail client is (TB of course!).  Can anyone help?

I don't think this is something you set in Mozilla; I think it just
uses your default email client automatically. At least, mine does :-)

-- 
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Re: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Robert Golovniov]

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Hello Alexander,

Monday, October 14, 2002, 1:12:56 PM, you wrote:

AAG>   Does anybody clear knows concerning subject ? Will The Bat! team
AAG>   plan to do with working PGP 7.0 plug-in ?

I  have  inquired  them  about it some time ago but got no response. I
am  not  sure,  however, whether they will do anything about it, since
the former owner of PGP did not release the code for version 7.0.x

Did you try, perhaps, using GPG instead?


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How to set TB as default mail client in Mozilla 1.1

[Tim Musson]

Hey all,

Working to switch from IE to Mozilla, but can't seem to find where to
tell Mozilla what my default eMail client is (TB of course!).  Can anyone help?

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Re: Backup without Maintenance Center

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Alexander,

> I want to automate the process of backing up The Bat!'s mail and
> settings.  Will backing up the MAIL folder be enough? (maybe I
> need the address book in The Bat!'s directory or something else?)
> Also, I must mention that I plan to automatically copy the
> folder/files on a regular basis, not use the maintenance center
> since as far as I know there is no automatic way to run it and
> make it backup files, except if I set up myself a macro/script
> that will do that.  How does this whole approach sound to you?
> Will I be able to recover The Bat!'s setting and mail without
> problems in case of a catastrophic event by copying the backed-up
> files in its directory?

I keep my Mail directory in a different disk (i.e. F:\TB\Mail) and
everything needed to recover seems to be there. I use Second Copy 2000
(http://www.centered.com/) to back up every night and, just with that,
I have been able to recover a couple of times.

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Re: TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Tim,

G>> I don't see the problem. 5+95=101 unread msg. If you are referring
G>> to the (0)122, that should be the number of mails , read + unread,
G>> in all subfolders combined under mail admin. Seeing that you have
G>> 101 unread msg, there should be 21 read msg.

> I think he is talking about the 75 in the highlighted folder...

Of course, that's what I mean.

> Miguel, I seem to recall something about this from earlier
> discussions.  Have you done a 'Folder\Purge All Folders' recently?
> IIRC that was the recommendation before.

I do it every night. So, I did it last nigh.

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Re: TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Tim Musson]

Hey Gerard,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Business' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Monday, October 14, 2002 at 7:30:27 AM.

G> I don't see the problem. 5+95=101 unread msg. If you are referring
G> to the (0)122, that should be the number of mails , read + unread,
G> in all subfolders combined under mail admin. Seeing that you have
G> 101 unread msg, there should be 21 read msg.

I think he is talking about the 75 in the highlighted folder...

Miguel, I seem to recall something about this from earlier
discussions.  Have you done a 'Folder\Purge All Folders' recently?
IIRC that was the recommendation before.

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Re: TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Gerard]

ON Monday, October 14, 2002, 1:00:27 PM, you wrote:

MAU> I never noticed before (perhaps I didn't pay attention) but it looks
MAU> like TB unread counts don't add up correctly some times. The total
MAU> unread count for one of my accounts is much less than it should, take
MAU> a look at:

Hi Miguel,
   I don't see the problem. 5+95=101 unread msg.
   If you are referring to the (0)122, that should be the number of mails
   , read + unread, in all subfolders combined under mail admin.
   Seeing that you have 101 unread msg, there should be 21 read msg.

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Re: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Monday, October 14, 2002, 13:12, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote:

>   Does anybody clear knows concerning subject ? Will The Bat! team
>   plan to do with working PGP 7.0 plug-in ?

Not until the full source code for 7.0 is released. Unfortunately, that
is not very likely to happen.

Try the ckt builds at http://www.ipgpp.com instead, they are distributed
with excellent TB! plugins.

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? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  Does anybody clear knows concerning subject ? Will The Bat! team
  plan to do with working PGP 7.0 plug-in ?

Regards, Your sincerely registered
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TB doesn't klnow how to add :-)

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello all,

I never noticed before (perhaps I didn't pay attention) but it looks
like TB unread counts don't add up correctly some times. The total
unread count for one of my accounts is much less than it should, take
a look at:

   http://www.ctv.es/USER/murech/TB_unread.htm

I assume this is a bug of some kind, but please note that I am still
on v1.60c and it may have been corrected in later versions.

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Backup without Maintenance Center

[Alexander Cicovic]

Hello there,

I want to automate the process of backing up The Bat!'s mail and
settings.  Will backing up the MAIL folder be enough? (maybe I
need the address book in The Bat!'s directory or something else?)
Also, I must mention that I plan to automatically copy the
folder/files on a regular basis, not use the maintenance center
since as far as I know there is no automatic way to run it and
make it backup files, except if I set up myself a macro/script
that will do that.  How does this whole approach sound to you?
Will I be able to recover The Bat!'s setting and mail without
problems in case of a catastrophic event by copying the backed-up
files in its directory?

Thanks...



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