Re: Tooltips
Hello Miguel, On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 you wrote: You are right, but I did not reply to your original post. I replied to Thomas Fernandez who said: Aargh, that's what comes of being away for two days, rushing through the responses too quickly and not getting the threading right in my head. Sorry and should have known that you wouldn't make that sort of mistake anyway ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not connect to the Server messages using Windows 2000SP3
Hello Mary! But I do suspect the modem-messaging code in the OS. This is where I think the problem lies, or possibly somewhere in the bowels of The Bat! After establishing a dial-up connection, The Bat! doesn't get as far as talking with my ISP. I've watched the network monitor and no information gets transferred over the link. Unfortunately, on my system, it it's a permanent problem. I've yet to use 'The Bat!' and am still relying on a rather old and clunky mail reader (but one that works without problems). -- Nigel Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:18 +0300 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tooltips
Hello Richard, Sorry and should have known that you wouldn't make that sort of mistake anyway ;-) Right. I don't make that sort of small mistakes, just big ones ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help needed using the Bat! with screen reader
Hello Thomas, Thanks for referring me to the Jaws scripts. Unfortunately, I'm using a different screen reader callde WindowEyes, however, the Jaws scripts may give me a really good starting point for developing what Window Eyes calls set files. Like Jaws scripts, set files tell the screen reader how to behave within an application, i.e. what to read, what to ignore, what to say when certain graphics/colors present themselves, etc... Again, thanks. Wednesday, July 9, 2003, 11:44:53 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Steve, TF On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:16:41 -0400 GMT (10/07/03, 05:16 +0700 GMT), TF Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: I am subscribed to a number of mailing lists resulting in about 700 Emails daily. TF That's a lot! I went under view/view threads by/references standard, but can not tell if messages are actually grouped into threads. In Outlook, threads, or conversations as they like to call them, are shown by a little minus symbol to the left of the message listing. When the thread is expanded, the minus changes to a plus. Anyway, with my screen reader, I am not detecting any sort of symbol when I change to the thread view. TF Are you using JAWS? There are some scripts that Thomas Boerrigter TF wrote for Jaws in combination with The Bat a few years ago. I haven't TF been on the German Jaws ML for a while, so I don't know whether it's TF been updated. Anyway, here is the download URL, based on Jaws 3.7 and TF The Bat! 1.53 (yeah, two years old): TF http://www.boerrigter.de/thebat.zip TF HTH. -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mercury problems
On Thursday, July 10, 2003, 9:16 AM, you wrote: Hi gang, long time!!! I was out of town recently ( alot) so I was off the list for a while.. just in the past 2 days something weird has been happening, but I don't think it was a TB issue, I THINK it was mercury. related or not, what happened was I tried to send a message from one of my accounts ( don't remember which) and as SOON as I hit SEND, it came back with an error message- NOT A LOCAL USER- and brought me back to the message edit window. I switched users to one that uses my ISPs SMTP server and the message went OK. I replaced the mercury.ini with an older known good one, and the messages went out again OK. today, I was doing something, decided to reboot, went into TB, tried to send another message, and same problem. replaced mercury.ini and everything is fine again. anybody using Mercury had any problems like this??? -- Paul People have rights, but the government has what's left. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! Recieves messages but says it can't write them to disk.
Hi all, I'm not too sure whether or not this (incredibly) talented group can help me or it's a developer problem. Two days ago emails stopped coming into my account. A quick check of the log showed that the messages were listed as received but each message was promptly followed with ! 7/8/03, 16:20:20: fetch - [inbox] could not store message (file name - c:\docume~1\admin~1\locals~1\temp\bat1bbo.tmp A check of the tmp files in question however shows that the messages were written (with varying file sizes) and I can open them in Notepad and see the message. There were over 18,000 tmp files in the directory and at first I thought that TB! was choking on the number so I deleted them all. This didn't help. I then downloaded TB! and reinstalled it (I didn't do an uninstall first.) The particulars of the machine running TB! is as follows: Win2K Service Pack 3 TB! Version 1.62r Approximately 188,000 emails in the main account The Mail folder is approximately 5.6 gigs Any suggestions, or work arounds would be greatly appreciated. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Recieves messages but says it can't write them to disk.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, @10-Jul-2003, 09:46 -0400 (14:46 UK time) Nick OHare2 [NO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NO ! 7/8/03, 16:20:20: fetch - [inbox] could not store message NO (file name - c:\docume~1\admin~1\locals~1\temp\bat1bbo.tmp ... snip Thoughts: 1) Are you running logged in as Administrator? (TB is trying to use the Administrator's temp folder). 2) What are the permissions on that folder? 3) What AV software is running - could that be stopping things? 4) Are you running a firewall? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPw1wHznkJKuSnc2gEQL55gCeOZrKZFGZECmK3WG3N5oKVbxdOCUAoMng T10BVxLmyXEKp0Y32OenQJfd =yV+r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mercury problems
Hello Paul, snipped quite a bit anybody using Mercury had any problems like this??? I use Mercury/32 and I seem to recall similar problems reported in the Mercury list (which I monitor regularly). Maybe you should post you query there. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Recieves messages but says it can't write them to disk.
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Nick OHare2 wrote: I'm not too sure whether or not this (incredibly) talented group can help me or it's a developer problem. Two days ago emails stopped coming into my account. A quick check of the log showed that the messages were listed as received but each message was promptly followed with ! 7/8/03, 16:20:20: fetch - [inbox] could not store message (file name - c:\docume~1\admin~1\locals~1\temp\bat1bbo.tmp A check of the tmp files in question however shows that the messages were written (with varying file sizes) and I can open them in Notepad and see the message. There were over 18,000 tmp files in the directory and at first I thought that TB! was choking on the number so I deleted them all. This didn't help. I then downloaded TB! and reinstalled it (I didn't do an uninstall first.) 1) problem can be antivirus, but you did not told about antivirus warnings. 2) tmp files are stored but not imported to TB, as I understand. Did not your system crashed two days ago? Try to close TB, backup messages.tbb and messsages.tbi files from INBOX folder of this account and run TB again. One user has similar problem and he had corrupted msgbase somehow (probably by crash). -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not connect to the Server messages using Windows 2000SP3
Hello Nigel! On Thursday, July 10, 2003, 3:06 AM, you wrote: MB But I do suspect the modem-messaging code in the OS. N This is where I think the problem lies, or possibly somewhere in N the bowels of The Bat! Or how the two relate. N After establishing a dial-up connection, The Bat! doesn't get as N far as talking with my ISP. I've watched the network monitor and no N information gets transferred over the link. I don't have a monitor like that. But I notice that the little red light on the front of the computer, which flickers to signify activity, does not come on during this problem. N Unfortunately, on my system, ... it's a permanent problem. ... Yes. I did know from your description that the behavior you were experiencing is not the same as my experience. I don't know very much about computers--just what I've learned trial-and-error, with a little support from friends and family, and a lot of help from this list and one or two others. I guess I contributed to this thread more in a spirit of misery loves company and the hope that there was an off-chance that I might provide a clue to help you solve the problem, than with any idea that I knew the answer myself. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smartbat hotkeys
Is there any way to change the SmartBat hotkeys? -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) Experience: What you get when you don't get what you want. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! Recieves messages but says it can't write them to disk.
Hello Marck, Thursday, July 10, 2003, 9:54:34 AM, you wrote: MDP @10-Jul-2003, 09:46 -0400 (14:46 UK time) Nick OHare2 [NO] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NO ! 7/8/03, 16:20:20: fetch - [inbox] could not store message NO (file name - c:\docume~1\admin~1\locals~1\temp\bat1bbo.tmp MDP Thoughts: MDP 1) Are you running logged in as Administrator? (TB is trying to use MDPthe Administrator's temp folder). MDP 2) What are the permissions on that folder? MDP 3) What AV software is running - could that be stopping things? MDP 4) Are you running a firewall? Thank you for your response. I am indeed logged in as Administrator and the permission for the folder are set properly (the tmp files are written to the temp directory). I should have mentioned that I was running a firewall (ZoneAlarm) and a AV (AVG). I shut both of them down and the same problem occurs (I'm doing checks through the message dispatcher). One test I did do involved using another TB! account and did manage to download an email I sent it. Is it possible that my brother finally came up with the magic number of emails that can bring TB! to it's knees? I was shocked when I saw the number emails and the size of the Mail folder. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! Recieves messages but says it can't write them to disk.
Hello Marek, Thursday, July 10, 2003, 10:12:14 AM, you wrote: MM On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Nick OHare2 wrote: Two days ago emails stopped coming into my account. A quick check of the log showed that the messages were listed as received but each message was promptly followed with ! 7/8/03, 16:20:20: fetch - [inbox] could not store message (file name - c:\docume~1\admin~1\locals~1\temp\bat1bbo.tmp A check of the tmp files in question however shows that the messages were written (with varying file sizes) and I can open them in Notepad and see the message. MM 1) problem can be antivirus, but you did not told about antivirus MM warnings. MM 2) tmp files are stored but not imported to TB, as I understand. Did MM not your system crashed two days ago? Try to close TB, backup MM messages.tbb and messsages.tbi files from INBOX folder of this account MM and run TB again. One user has similar problem and he had corrupted MM msgbase somehow (probably by crash). Thank you for your response. I was running an AV but shut it down and tried again with the same results. According to my brother the machine hasn't crashed recently. As I just wrote Marck, I can download to another account under TB! but for my main account the log keeps insisting that it can't write to the Windows directory file. However TB! tmp files clearly show up in that directory. I think my brother hit the magic number that chokes TB. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Recieves messages but says it can't write them to disk.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, @10-Jul-2003, 14:59 -0400 (19:59 UK time) Nick OHare2 [NO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP 3) What AV software is running - could that be stopping things? MDP 4) Are you running a firewall? NO I should have mentioned that I was running a firewall NO (ZoneAlarm) (sharp intake of breath) - have a look for references to ZA, ZAP and ZoneAlarm in the archive. It is widely held to be a source of problems for many. Not all, but many for sure. NO and a AV (AVG). I shut both of them down and the same problem NO occurs (I'm doing checks through the message dispatcher). Shutting down ZA is not an option. It has been conclusively proven that nothing short of a complete exorcism will stop ZA from doing at least *something* you didn't tell it to within your system. This alone is my main reason for advising folks to make the shift to Kerio if they possibly can. No software should be that pervasive, unbeknownst to the user. However, we digress, since this is clearly *not* the source of your problem. NO One test I did do involved using another TB! account and did NO manage to download an email I sent it. Is it possible that my NO brother finally came up with the magic number of emails that can NO bring TB! to it's knees? No. I sincerely believe that there is no possibility of that being the problem. Since you are using the dispatcher, you can batch the downloads and reduce the number of messages coming in. I predict that the result will be the same. I think that Marek hit it when he said that the Inbox of the account may well be corrupt in some way, shape or form. Are there many messages in the Inbox? Move them out to another location. Exit TB. Use Windows Explorer to find the Inbox folder on disk and delete the .tbb and .tbi files. Run TB again and see if your mails will now import correctly. They are downloading just fine (to the temp folder) - it's just the act of importing them to Inbox that's choking. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPw3CEjnkJKuSnc2gEQKF9gCfZV+BiE0AIm/01zIEMZKMGO5ocQYAn31b tmpOd69RAchokVbipkaaC4sf =7f6a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
First email client with built in POPFile
Hallo Fledermäuse, there's this on POPfile news: Posted By: jgrahamc Date: 2003-06-30 18:57 Summary: First email client with built in POPFile The Courier Email client (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/courier/) has code in the latest version to automatically find the X-POPFile-Link decode the link and add a Reclassify... menu item. Very nice integration of POPFile. Thanks. wouldn't it be nice if TB! would integrate POPfile, too? -- regards, Jurgen Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on WinXP.5.1.2600.SP1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First email client with built in POPFile
Jurgen Haug on Thursday, July 10, 2003, 9:37:04 PM, you scribed: The Courier Email client (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/courier/) has code in the latest version to automatically find the X-POPFile-Link decode the link and add a Reclassify... menu item. Very nice integration of POPFile. Thanks. wouldn't it be nice if TB! would integrate POPfile, too? Could that be done using an Anti spam plugin? Just a thought -- Duncan Strand ICQ: 16966914 www.zebs.org.uk I am Locutus of the Borg. This tagline is irrelevant Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First email client with built in POPFile
Hello Jurgen, wouldn't it be nice if TB! would integrate POPfile, too? It certainly would. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First email client with built in POPFile
Some time around 7/10/2003 16:37:04, I think I heard Jurgen Haug say: Hallo Fledermäuse, wouldn't it be nice if TB! would integrate POPfile, too? That would be great! :) dZ. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First email client with built in POPFile
Actually, The Bat! works fine with POPFile on my system. I tried the new Courier, and it seems to be just like the old Calypso, which it's replacing. Not worth the cost of upgrade, to me anyway. Steve . . . Jurgen, Thursday, July 10, 2003, 1:37:04 PM, you wrote:== JH there's this on POPfile news: Posted By: jgrahamc Date: 2003-06-30 18:57 Summary: First email client with built in POPFile The Courier Email client (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/courier/) has code in the latest version to automatically find the X-POPFile-Link decode the link and add a Reclassify... menu item. Very nice integration of POPFile. Thanks. JH wouldn't it be nice if TB! would integrate POPfile, too? Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smartbat hotkeys
Hello ravi, On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:58:35 +0100 GMT (10/07/03, 21:58 +0700 GMT), ravi wrote: Is there any way to change the SmartBat hotkeys? Does Alt-F12 not do what you want? You can change the SmartBat hotkey from F6 to anything you like (conditions apply). ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. -- Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First email client with built in POPFile
10-Jul-2003 22:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wouldn't it be nice if TB! would integrate POPfile, too? Why? I'm using SpamPal and Bayesian filter, and I wouldn't ask if that, or SpamAssassin, or K7, or whatever anti-spam solution, be integrated into TB. Let the users decide what they like best, TB is big enough an application already. -- Best regards, neurowerx (http://www.neurowerx.de) One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. -- Groucho Marx Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
