Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Krister Ekstrom]

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V> Personally, I think a new skin for TB is a great idea. I've often found myself
V> wishing for one. As long as there is a default skin that caters to the blind,
V> having alternatives to spice up TB's otherwise bland interface would be great.

I can see where you're coming from and your wish is ok, imho, as long
as functionality is the same. I don't want to miss functionality just
because i can't see to use it, so if we have the same functionality
but different looks, that's ok, otherwise it's not.


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Re[2]: different reply quotes for different people

[Vishal]

Hi Thomas

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 12:34:36 PM, you wrote:


TF> I have a weird feeling I replied to this in the morning. Either you
TF> posted the same question on another list, or I just received a
TF> duplicate of your message, or I'm experiencing a deja-vu.

Maybe you did. I posted some messages twice on TBUDL because my posts haven't
been showing up on the list for some reason. I seem to get everyone else's
except my own, but it's erratic. Sorry if you had to expend extra effort! For
some reason I never got your first reply either.

TF> Check out the %QuoteStyle="expression" macro in the help file. I am
TF> using %QuoteStyle="Mutti" for messages to my mother.

Awesome! It worked. Thanks a lot!

Cheers,

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Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

[Vishal]

Hi Marck

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:29:41 AM, you wrote:

MDP> Yes.

MDP> Many have.

So could you suggest someone who has? It would be a big help.

MDP> A *significantly* larger proportion have *not*.

Yep, I'm aware of this.

V>> I'd rather not shift to Kerio yet as ZA is otherwise an excellent
V>> firewall.

MDP> Kerio is an *excellent* firewall. It works well and in a seamless
MDP> manner for all. ZA is a good firewall for many, but not for most.
MDP> That precludes it from the "excellence" tag in my mind.

In your mind, yes. In my mind and that of most others who use it not in
conjunction with TB, ZA is excellent. One app does not a reputation destroy.

MDP> Oh yes, and
MDP> Kerio is free. I don't see why the resistance.

I've paid for the Pro version. I like the interface and trust its protection.
I'm not sure if Kerio offers all the features ZA Pro does. I haven't had time to
check out Kerio and have not discussed it with people who can vouch for it as
much as ZA.

MDP> If ZA works for you,
MDP> fine - stay with it. If it is impeding you, as it has impeded many
MDP> others - get it out of there! :-).

I've thought about it. But ZA works for the most part, and if there's a way to
get it working properly with TB I'd rather do that. TB isn't as indispensable to
me. Maybe version 2.0 will change that :)

Cheers,

-Vishal 



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Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Richard,

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

> Any chance of the folder unread

Oops, meant message list. sorry.

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Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

> I love these! They still have the distinctly modern look of "the new
> TB", but add some colour, so the buttons are easier to see and
> distingiuish. Thanks. :-)

Yes, much nicer. Any chance of the folder unread and read icons having
yellow envelopes too (I know others will like it as it is though!)

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Re: Wishlist item for scrutiny

[Pixie]

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:19:39 -0400 GMT, Vishal wrote:

V> I disagree. I think it increases the work and I'd rather get down to reading my
V> email immediately.

Perhaps it wasn't clear, this was not suggested as a replacement to
the default operation unless you want it.. as in _alternative_
default. I'm assuming you don't disagree with options?

-- Pixie



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Re: The Name!

[Pixie]

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:44:55 -0400 GMT, Allen wrote:

They derived the name from Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell tune..

-- Pixie



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Folder moving

[o . voelker]

Hi!

A found a little problem:
I have 7 POP Acounts and 1 IMAP (just created)
I can move the POP accounts by pressing Shift+CTRL+Cursor, but I cann't move
the IMAP account...
If I select the account above the IMAP account and move it down, I can
change the order without problem

Using The Bat 2.0 with WinXP SP1

Bye,
Oliver



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Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Michael,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:10:51 -0500 GMT (03/09/2003, 10:10 +0700 GMT),
Michael Harlos wrote:

> I just added a little bit of colour, and made the Outbox folder red if
> it has anything in it (I often forget to send things).

  http://harlos.net/glyphs.bmp

I love these! They still have the distinctly modern look of "the new
TB", but add some colour, so the buttons are easier to see and
distingiuish. Thanks. :-)

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Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[Allister Jenks]

On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 9:13:04 p.m., Paul Richardson wrote:

> Does this mean the Help file has been revised? This is a badly needed
> improvement. Is it any good?

Um.  See topic "Anti Spam"...

"Enter topic text here."

So, there are still patches to worry about.  As for the rest, I
actually don't remember much about the old stuff except that I could
never easily find what I wanted.

Someone else who is more familiar may have to comment...

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Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans.

Please forgive me for my stupidity, but would U explain subject ?

  

Regards,
AG



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Re: Group Template Reply Problem

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allen,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:14:26 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 08:14 +0700 GMT),
Allen wrote:

> I've  just  now  deleted  the  entry altogether and re-added it to the
> address  book  and it works. I have no logical explanation . . . maybe
> it was just a fluke.

Sounds like a fluke; glad it works now.

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The Bat 2 PGP: some problems with PGPsdkNL.dll

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans!

I've just installed 2.0 over registered 1.62
I also have PGP 7.04 installed

I'v got while choosing PGP version message (look 
http://www.dlv.rt.ru/splinty/TB2_PGP.JPG)
and that's all.

Would U advice, how i can correct that problem ?

Moreover Encrypt when Completed doesn't work inspite of presence
public Key of recipients.
But decrypting work nice

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Re: The Name!

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allen,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:44:55 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 09:44 +0700 GMT),
Allen wrote:

> I apologize for such a non-technical email, but it's a question I just
> -must-  ask,  and  it does pertain to TB directly, so I think I'm safe
> posting  it as on-topic.  I've been using TB since 1998, which is if I
> understand  correctly  about  a  year  after its public appearance.  I
> still,  to  this  day,  do not know the origin of its name and am most
> curious about it.  Anyone here who knows?

Ritlabs used to have the motto "communication with the unseen" on
their website, and bats use sonar rather than eyesight to navigate.
When communicating by email- you don't see who you are communicating
with.

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The Bat 2 PGP: some problems with PGPsdkNL.dll

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans!

I've just installed 2.0 over registered 1.62
I also have PGP 7.04 installed

I'v got while choosing PGP version message (look attache) and that's
all.

Would U advice, how i can correct that problem ?

Moreover Encrypt when Completed doesn't work inspite of presence
public Key of recipients.

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Re: Fastmail, IMAP and The Bat! 2.0

[Keith Rodrigues]

Hello Jeffrey,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:10:45 PM, you wrote:


JAS> Is anyone else using Fastmail with The Bat! 2.0?  I am curious about
JAS> how you have set the IMAP Options for Root Folder and the pre-defined
JAS> folders.  I have tried many different combinations and cannot get The
JAS> Bat! to use the Sent Items and Trash folders on Fastmail.

Jeff

I was struggling with this myself when your message came in. I'm not
sure if I've done it right, but what I ended up doing was to select
Alt-F7 to manage accounts. This showed INBOX with a + sign next to it.
Clicking the + sign brings up the default Drafts / Sent items / Trash
_under_ the Inbox folder. Silly of me, but I missed that + sign for a
while and kept trying to create the other folders manually. I was able
to move messages from the Inbox to Inbox/Trash successfully, once the
sync settings were done properly. I haven't got any other folders set
up in my Fastmail account, either on the server or locally, so this
may or may not be what you need. Let me know what else you find out!

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Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[Deborah W]

On Monday, September 1, 2003, 8:33:44 PM, Avenarius wrote:

A> After reading all the sceptical opinions about v2 betas on the TBBETA
A> list, I doubted whether it would be necessary for me to upgrade. The
A> big improvement in v2 is supposed to be full working IMAP, which I
A> don't use.

Same here. I've played with v2 a bit now, & as you say, there are some
nice features. I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I
do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with
it. If you highlight text in order to change, for example, the font &
size, you have to highlight it twice - because as soon as you change one
thing, you lose the highlight. And it doesn't appear to be possible to
paste html into the editor - I get an error message when I try that. I
suspect Ritlabs introduced the html editor in order to appeal to a wider
audience, but I don't think this one's going to do it.

On the bright side, the installation, as you say, was a dream - fast &
simple. But while I appreciate that other features are to be added as
time goes on, at the minute I'm probably going to stick with the old
version, because I can't justify paying for new features I don't need
our household income is zero :-/

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Re[2]: Can TB works in Linux OS?

[Joe Lee]

Hi DG,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, at 13:25:19 [GMT -0400] (which was 1:25 where I
live) you wrote:

DRS> Maybe under Wine? http://www.winehq.com/

Thanks for enlightenment! I'll give it a try. :)

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Re[2]: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Jack Morrison]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:27:26 PM, you wrote:

> It has added a hamstrung windows editor

Say what?

> to cater for the
> wishes of those who get the hang of a sensible free caret editor
> ;-).

Sonofagun, Marck, I've been trying, I really have, but it just ain't
gonna happen.  Ever.

The caret still flies around like a no-see-um on speed.

On the bright side, I really do like the new scheduler.

Plus, I'd have paid another $17.50 to get a new flash screen and a
fresh Bat! icon. Is it too late?  :)

But overall, so far, so good!

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Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Marck D Pearlstone]

@3-Sep-2003, 04:27 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Stan:

MDP> to cater for the wishes of those who
can't
MDP> get the hang of a sensible free caret editor ;-).

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Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Stan,

@2-Sep-2003, 22:14 -0500 (04:14 UK time) Stan Robins [SR] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marek:

SR> Has V2 replaced the cockamamie free caret text editor with a
SR> competent auto-wrapping text editor? That would be worth
SR> upgrading for.

No. Not replaced. That would be a downgrade for the majority of
users. It has added a hamstrung windows editor to cater for the
wishes of those who get the hang of a sensible free caret editor
;-). This reminds me of that gag - "reality is for people that can't
handle drugs".

SR> HTML support? ... Does TB's HTML somehow avoid the problem of
SR> executing destructive code wrapped in HTML, and other pitfalls
SR> of email HTML?

It always did and continues to do so. V2 adds the ability to write
simple (as in formatted text with embedded pictures) HTML messages
as well as continued support for safely reading HTML messages.

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Re: The Name!

[Deborah W]

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:44:55 PM, Allen wrote:

A> I apologize for such a non-technical email, but it's a question I
A> just -must- ask, and it does pertain to TB directly, so I think I'm
A> safe posting it as on-topic. I've been using TB since 1998, which is
A> if I understand correctly about a year after its public appearance. I
A> still, to this day, do not know the origin of its name and am most
A> curious about it. Anyone here who knows?

>From TB's tip-file:

Bats are the only mammals to have evolved true flight, and most species
also possess an acute system of acoustic orientation, or echolocation.
E-mail messaging is a kind of communication without seeing whoever you
are communicating with.

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Re[2]: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Stan Robins]

Has V2 replaced the cockamamie free caret text editor with a competent
auto-wrapping text editor? That would be worth upgrading for.

HTML support? The hyper-techies used to consider this a bad thing,
worthy only of the admiration of someone who considers Outlook Express
to be a sophisticated piece of engineering. What has changed? Does
TB's HTML somehow avoid the problem of executing destructive code
wrapped in HTML, and other pitfalls of email HTML?

-- 
Stan Robins
Mendota Heights, MN  

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On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 8:35:07 AM, I received a message,
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
in which you wrote:

(Text not relevant to my reply may have been snipped.) 

> Hello all,
> Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Peter Fjelsten wrote:

>>  I must say that although I have been through all the betas (more or
>>  less) I am a bit disappointed with the features in 2.0. Like someone
>>  else said, if you don't use IMAP and PGP (which, I guess, most people
>>  don't), there is not anything "real" new.

>>  I will update, but that is in anticipation of more features later that
>>  I want (e.g. full newsgroup support), not because what is there now.
>>  :-(

> version  2.0  has  more than 70% of new code, many features were added
> and  many  of old features were improved for better handling. TB2 core
> is   prepared  for  new  features,  which  will  be  implemented  soon
> (completely  new  filtering system, customizable interface etc.). Many
> features  were promised for V2 platform, not for 2.0 version directly.



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Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...

[Michael Harlos]

Hi,

For those interested, I have made some very minor changes to the
glyphs.bmp file for TB!2.0

I just added a little bit of colour, and made the Outbox folder red if
it has anything in it (I often forget to send things).

The glyphs.bmp file goes in the home program directory of TB!; make
sure to rename the old one (if there is one) rather than overwriting
it... you might not like these  :-)

Here's the file:

   http://harlos.net/glyphs.bmp
  
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The Name!

[Allen]

I apologize for such a non-technical email, but it's a question I just
-must-  ask,  and  it does pertain to TB directly, so I think I'm safe
posting  it as on-topic.  I've been using TB since 1998, which is if I
understand  correctly  about  a  year  after its public appearance.  I
still,  to  this  day,  do not know the origin of its name and am most
curious about it.  Anyone here who knows?

Thanks :)

Be well,
Allen

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Fastmail, IMAP and The Bat! 2.0

[Jeffrey A. Shumway]

Hello tbudl,

Is anyone else using Fastmail with The Bat! 2.0?  I am curious about
how you have set the IMAP Options for Root Folder and the pre-defined
folders.  I have tried many different combinations and cannot get The
Bat! to use the Sent Items and Trash folders on Fastmail.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Jeff
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Re[2]: Group Template Reply Problem

[Allen]

TF> Hello Allen,

TF> On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:25:20 -0400 GMT (02/09/2003, 19:25 +0700 GMT),
TF> Allen wrote:

>> Generally,  this does work -- but with one problem.  When I attempt to
>> reply  to  a message in the TBUDL discussion group, it uses my default
>> account  template rather than my TB template.

TF> The reason may be that you have TBUDL twice in your AB, or it is
TF> associated with two or more groups.

Nope. I only had it in there once, had it associated with my bat group
exclusively  .  .  . I went through the settings over, and over and it
was  setup identically to the others. It used to work, then broke when
I installed the beta before last, pardon my forgetting the number. But
I  do  know  that  it  was  identical to the others, different only in
name/unique-ID  and  email  address.

I've  just  now  deleted  the  entry altogether and re-added it to the
address  book  and it works. I have no logical explanation . . . maybe
it was just a fluke.

Thanks, though.

Allen


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Re[5]: Version 2 Download Mirrors **SPAM OSIRU 194.109.127.137**

[Allen]

A>>> May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
A>>> upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
A>>> for you guys?

>> A few minutes (10 or 15).

GG> After my online registration, they're using The Element 5 site now for that,
GG> I got in a 'thank you' message the note:
GG>   "The publisher will send the license key by e-mail within 48 hours."
GG> That would make 15 hours even rather fast. :-)

I  realize  this,  but  in  light of no one else having a problem with
latency,  I threw up a red flag.  I think they'd forgotten about me --
because as soon as I emailed Cifnet, I got my reg code.

Allen


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Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

[Anne]

Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 12:49:38 AM,Vishal wrote:

V> I have ZA's 'E-mail protection' enabled as well. The problem here is that
V> explicit mail checks using alt-F2 work fine, but the automatic checking every 5
V> mins does not. I checked the ZA logs and did not see any outgoing connections
V> blocked at the times of the automatic mail checks. There is also not a delay as
V> you said, but simply that the checks never occur at all.


Vishal,

Have you checked The Bat!'s account log to see if the account is
actually trying to poll every n minutes? If it is there'll be an entry
there which may give you a hint as to where it's failing.

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Re: Filter to set high priority flag & park & still send to rightfolder

[Allie Martin]

Doug Weller, [DW] wrote:

DW> It's easy enough to filter messages so that a message from a certain
DW> person is parked and the high priority flag set, but it doesn't look
DW> obvious how I can NOT let it go to its own folder but to the folder
DW> set by other filters. I don't have a choice of 'don't send to folder
DW> yet'.

Set the target folder in the filter rule as Inbox and in the filter
options enable 'continue processing with other filters'. In this way,
the message will go on to be filtered by other rules which will then
move the message to your target folder.

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Re[3]: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Vishal]

Hi Krister

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 3:05:49 PM, you wrote:


MM> Hello all,
MM> Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

MM>>> (completely  new  filtering system, customizable interface etc.). Many

>> What do you mean by "customizable interface". Please, oh please don't
>> say you mean skins, cause if you do, i would like to be informed of
>> another MUA, cause when developers say: "New cool looking easy-to-use
>> interface", it all to often means that accessibility for the blind
>> goes down the drain.

Personally, I think a new skin for TB is a great idea. I've often found myself
wishing for one. As long as there is a default skin that caters to the blind,
having alternatives to spice up TB's otherwise bland interface would be great.

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Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

[Vishal]

Hi DG

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:07:50 PM, you wrote:

DRS> What do have "layered" between ZoneAlarm and The_Bat!?

I have Symantec Antivirus, latest version. This used to be known as NAV
Corporate Edition. I remember reading somewhere that NAV uses port 110 for its
email scanning, but that may or may not be accurate anymore.

DRS> If you are
DRS> running an Antivirus program that either intercepts port 110 or a
DRS> plugin for The_Bat! and/or have an antispam program running then you
DRS> can expect such delays.

I have ZA's 'E-mail protection' enabled as well. The problem here is that
explicit mail checks using alt-F2 work fine, but the automatic checking every 5
mins does not. I checked the ZA logs and did not see any outgoing connections
blocked at the times of the automatic mail checks. There is also not a delay as
you said, but simply that the checks never occur at all.


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Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Cyber,

CT>  Maybe there you will have more luck

CT> 
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Re: Spam blacklist

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Paco,

@2-Sep-2003, 22:47 +0200 (21:47 UK time) Paco Capocasa [PC] in
mid:74174856.20030902224714@ freesurf.ch said:

PC> I'm trying to use The Bat! to filter all spam.  How can I
PC> incorporate a list of email addresses in the filter rules?

Create a special group in your address book (or a special address
book) and put the list of email addresses in there. Now use the
'Advanced' filter option of "Sender must be in address book/group".

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Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Sophos AntiVirus Pluggin)

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Archy,

@2-Sep-2003, 22:44 +0200 (21:44 UK time) ArchY [A] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

A> Have Ritlabs planned to have a new version of Antivirus Sophos
A> for the bat! ?


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Re: Sophos AntiVirus Pluggin

[Martin Webster]

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Hash: SHA1


Bonsoir ArchY,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 11:04:03 PM, you wrote:

MW>> I don't think there's any need for a new plugin as version 0.1 works
MW>> fine with TB! 2.00.

A> Just know that sophos have made many change about their engine.
A> But it seems to work fine

I always run the latest version (currently 3.73) and haven't
experienced any problems. 100% detection rate too!

M
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Re[2]: Sophos AntiVirus Pluggin

[ArchY]

Bonjour Martin,

Le mardi 2 septembre 2003 à 23:13:38, vous écriviez :

MW> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MW> Hash: SHA1


MW> Hello ArchY,

MW> Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:44:00 PM, you wrote:

A>> Have Ritlabs planned to have a new version of Antivirus Sophos for the
A>> bat! ?

MW> I don't think there's any need for a new plugin as version 0.1 works
MW> fine with TB! 2.00.

MW> BTW, don't use "reply to" when starting a new thread.

MW> M

ok ;) for the "reply to",
Just know that sophos have made many change about their engine.
But it seems to work fine

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Re[2]: Fwd: It appears I have screwed myself by registering v 1.62rearly

[P.Johnson]

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Christopher.

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 4:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


C>  I sent an email to Ritlabs last night about a free upgrade, pointing
C>  out that I registered on 27 Aug.

C>  This afternoon, I called cifnet, and they told me to fill out a form
C>  on their website explaining my situation.

C>  2 minutes after I submitted the form, my 2.0 registration key arrived
C>  at my inbox. Not sure which action of mine prompted the key, but it's
C>  done.

Could you please direct me to the web page with the form? I also
registered on Aug 27.

Thanks!
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Re: Fwd: It appears I have screwed myself by registering v 1.62rearly

[Christopher Brown]

Hello Craig,

 My story:

 I sent an email to Ritlabs last night about a free upgrade, pointing
 out that I registered on 27 Aug.

 This afternoon, I called cifnet, and they told me to fill out a form
 on their website explaining my situation.

 2 minutes after I submitted the form, my 2.0 registration key arrived
 at my inbox. Not sure which action of mine prompted the key, but it's
 done.

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Re: Key set does not exist?

[Martin Webster]

Hello Steve,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:32:30 PM, you wrote:

SMS> I just imported a Thawte smime certificate which I was hoping to use
SMS> with TB.  I wrote a message, enabled Smime, requested that the message
SMS> be signed and then hit send.  I was asked which cert to use-- the one
SMS> I had just imported was selected.  I hit OK and, about twenty seconds
SMS> later, get an error stating that the Key set does not exist.  I went
SMS> into internet options/content/certificates and see my certificate
SMS> listed and, in properties, I see that it has an associated private
SMS> key.  Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?  Personally, I'd rather
SMS> use PGP, but the recipients are using Outlook and I'm not sure I want
SMS> to talk them through it.

I got my certificate(s) from Certum
(http://www.certum.pl/en/eng/index.html). I think I sent a request
(blank e-mail?) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

M
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Re: Sophos AntiVirus Pluggin

[Martin Webster]

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Hash: SHA1


Hello ArchY,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:44:00 PM, you wrote:

A> Have Ritlabs planned to have a new version of Antivirus Sophos for the
A> bat! ?

I don't think there's any need for a new plugin as version 0.1 works
fine with TB! 2.00.

BTW, don't use "reply to" when starting a new thread.

M
- --
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Filter to set high priority flag & park & still send to right folder

[Doug Weller]

Hello,

  It's easy enough to filter messages so that a message from a certain
  person is parked and the high priority flag set, but it doesn't look
  obvious how I can NOT let it go to its own folder but to the folder
  set by other filters. I don't have a choice of 'don't send to folder
  yet'.

  What am I missing? Using V2.

  Thanks.

  Doug


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Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Anne]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 4:30:22 PM,Jonathan wrote:

JA> And the plugins :)


Oooops I forget the plugins!!!  Thanks for the reminder Jonathan
- speaking of which - I was asked yesterday if there is any progress
with the newsreader plugin... does anyone have any info about it's
progress/timescale please?

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Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[Peter Asenbauer]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 7:54:22 PM, you wrote:

M3>> Work continues on the Bayesian plug in.

> Could you give me a pointer to where to get this plug-in? I tried to
> google but everytime, I end up at programs like Spampal, K9, Popfile.

The Bayesian plugin for TB! can be found at
http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip

Note that this zip does not include docs. You should find Alexey's
explanations in the archive of the tbbeta mailing list. I have not
tried his plugin as up to now spampal has served my needs
sufficiently.

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Spam blacklist

[Paco Capocasa]

Hello all,

I'm trying to use The Bat! to filter all spam.  How can I
incorporate a list of email addresses in the filter rules?

Thanks... a hell of a list, this!

Paco







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Sophos AntiVirus Pluggin

[ArchY]

Bonjour ,

Have Ritlabs planned to have a new version of Antivirus Sophos for the
bat! ?


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Key set does not exist?

[Steve M. Sawczyn]

Hi,

I just imported a Thawte smime certificate which I was hoping to use
with TB.  I wrote a message, enabled Smime, requested that the message
be signed and then hit send.  I was asked which cert to use-- the one
I had just imported was selected.  I hit OK and, about twenty seconds
later, get an error stating that the Key set does not exist.  I went
into internet options/content/certificates and see my certificate
listed and, in properties, I see that it has an associated private
key.  Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?  Personally, I'd rather
use PGP, but the recipients are usingOutlook and I'm not sure I want
to talk them through it.

Any help appreciated,

Steve




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Re[2]: message.att file attachment with The Bat! v2.0 issue

[Paul Harrison]

Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 6:29:26 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hello Mark,

TF> On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 13:18:46 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 00:18 +0700 GMT),
TF> Mark wrote:

>> What are the message.att file attachment appear on all The Bat! v2.0
>> users e-mails?

TF> Often they are PGP/MIME signatures, which you can only fully
TF> appreciate if you use TB 2.0.

I'm giving TB v2 a whirl...are PGP/MIME signatures possible using GnuPG?

P

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Re: Upgrade - academic to full

[William Moore]

Hello Roel

Thank you for your email dated Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 5:53:57 PM,
in which you wrote:

R> I've upgraded from educational to personal without problems...
R> Just order the upgrade version you want and it'll be ok...

Great. Thanks Roel.

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Re: Address Book

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Bob,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:10:27 -0700 GMT (03/09/2003, 02:10 +0700 GMT),
Bob Brunson wrote:

> When new address books or folders are created how do I change the
> order of appearance in the address book itself...Some of them are in
> Alphabetical order and some are not as well as some of the original
> default folders are different colors...

The user-defined addressbooks are in blue. You can click on Name
to get the entries in alphabetical order.

The ones in red are for certificates. I choose to ignore them. This is
easy by clicking View and unchecking Certificate Databases.

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Re: Address Book

[Dave Kennedy]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 3:10:27 PM, Bob wrote:
B> When new address books or folders are created how do I change
B> the order of appearance in the address book itself...Some of
B> them are in Alphabetical order and some are not as well as
B> some of the original default folders are different
B> colors... Thanks, BOB

Did the address book get any attention in 2.0?

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Address Book

[Bob Brunson]

When new address books or folders are created how do I change the order of appearance 
in the address
book itself...Some of them are in Alphabetical order and some are not as well as some 
of
the original default folders are different colors...
Thanks, BOB

  

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Re[2]: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

MM>> (completely  new  filtering system, customizable interface etc.). Many

> What do you mean by "customizable interface". Please, oh please don't
> say you mean skins, cause if you do, i would like to be informed of
> another MUA, cause when developers say: "New cool looking easy-to-use
> interface", it all to often means that accessibility for the blind
> goes down the drain.

AFAIK customizable toolbars (adding/removing icons), customizable
menus (adding/removing menu options), no skins, as I think.

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Re[4]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[Danger]

Hello Robert,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 3:29:45 AM, you wrote:

RG> On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:04:14 AM, FJ de Bruin wrote:

FdB>> Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into
FdB>> the final 2.0 version?
FdB>> I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find
FdB>> any reference.

http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip


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Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

[DG Raftery Sr.]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Tuesday, September 02, 2003
2:00:36 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: "zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?"

Greetings Vishal,

On Monday, September 1, 2003, 1:29:47 PM, you wrote:

Vishal> I know, I know, this has been discussed before. But
Vishal> has ANYONE managed to get TB
Vishal> to do automatic mail checks with Zonealarm Pro
Vishal> installed? I'd rather not shift
Vishal> to Kerio yet as ZA is otherwise an excellent
Vishal> firewall. ZA does not appear to be
Vishal> blockign outgoing SMTP connections, so I don't know what the problem is.

What do have "layered" between ZoneAlarm and The_Bat!? If you are
running an Antivirus program that either intercepts port 110 or a
plugin for The_Bat! and/or have an antispam program running then you
can expect such delays. From a mail-monitoring firewall to an
antispam plugin, or program, through an AV monitoring port 110 incoming
I would, myself, expect quite a delay in The_Bat! processing mail.
Further any The_Bat! incoming filters you have set will slow the
process down that much more.

Anyway ...

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Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Krister Ekstrom]

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Hash: SHA1

Hi Marek,
In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 2 Sep 2003 15:35:07 , you typed:
MM> (completely  new  filtering system, customizable interface etc.). Many

What do you mean by "customizable interface". Please, oh please don't
say you mean skins, cause if you do, i would like to be informed of
another MUA, cause when developers say: "New cool looking easy-to-use
interface", it all to often means that accessibility for the blind
goes down the drain.
I also want new features, but what good are features if you can't use
them?

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Re[4]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[FJ de Bruin]

Hello MikeD,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:37:33 PM, you wrote:
M3> Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not "included", though.
M3> You do have to go out and get it separately.

Could you give me a pointer to where to get this plug-in? I tried to
google but everytime, I end up at programs like Spampal, K9, Popfile.

While they do the trick, I would prefer a solution that does not need
yet another active process on my machine.

Frank

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Re: verify please?

[Michael Thompson]

Hello daveiw,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, at 16:43:16 [GMT +0100] (which was 16:43 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:

dcn> Hi all,

dcn> Sorry again, but please verify my sig?

Works fine here.



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Re: message.att file attachment with The Bat! v2.0 issue

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Mark,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 13:18:46 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 00:18 +0700 GMT),
Mark wrote:

> What are the message.att file attachment appear on all The Bat! v2.0
> users e-mails?

Often they are PGP/MIME signatures, which you can only fully
appreciate if you use TB 2.0.

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Re: Upgrade - academic to full

[Michael Thompson]

Hello William,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, at 17:33:27 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:33 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:




WM> Hello TBUDL

WM> Has anybody upgrade from 1.x academic to 2.0 full. There doesn't seem to
WM> be that option.


I did the version update 1x to 2, and now I have a "Educational
Licence" Any ideas why?

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Re[5]: Version 2 Download Mirrors **SPAM OSIRU 194.109.127.137**

[Jos Klaassens]

Hello Gunivortus,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 6:32:00 PM, you wrote:

GG> After my online registration, they're using The Element 5 site now for that,
GG> I got in a 'thank you' message the note:
GG>   "The publisher will send the license key by e-mail within 48 hours."
GG> That would make 15 hours even rather fast. :-)

Same message here, but I received my key today within 15 minutes .

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Re: Can TB works in Linux OS?

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Tuesday, September 02, 2003
1:24:19 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: "Can TB works in Linux OS?"

Greetings Joe,

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:38:15 AM, you wrote:

Joe> I recently installed RedHat Linux on my machine and I wanna know if
Joe> TB! can work there. If not, is there any plan for approaching this?

Maybe under Wine? http://www.winehq.com/

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message.att file attachment with The Bat! v2.0 issue

[Mark]

What are the message.att file attachment appear on all The Bat! v2.0
users e-mails?

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Re: Upgrade - academic to full

[Sergey Kalabekov]

Hello Roel,

On Sep 2, 2003, 18:53 +0200 GMT (11:53 AM CST) you [R] typed:

R> On 2 Sep 2003 17:33:27  (my local time 18:33:27), William Moore wrote:

WM>> Has anybody upgrade from 1.x academic to 2.0 full. There doesn't seem to
WM>> be that option.

R> I've upgraded from educational to personal without problems...
R> Just order the upgrade version you want and it'll be ok...

I did the same thing, but haven't received the key yet.

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Re: Upgrade to 2.0

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Tuesday, September 02, 2003
12:56:49 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: "Upgrade to 2.0"

Greetings Wayne,

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 11:18:52 AM, you wrote:

Wayne> Does anyone know if there is a grandfather policy for TB 2.0? I just
Wayne> purchased a license for 1.62 a short time ago.

I think you meant "Grandfather Clause".

Main Entry: grandfather clause
Function: noun
Date: 1900
: a clause creating an exemption based on circumstances previously existing

I'm not sure of RIT's policy but you may want to direct that query to
them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as that seems to be the sales team they are
currently utilizing direct from their website.

Anyway ...

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Re: Upgrade - academic to full

[Roel]

Hi William

On 2 Sep 2003 17:33:27  (my local time 18:33:27), William Moore wrote:

WM> Has anybody upgrade from 1.x academic to 2.0 full. There doesn't seem to
WM> be that option.

I've upgraded from educational to personal without problems...
Just order the upgrade version you want and it'll be ok...

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Re: verify please?

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Tuesday, September 02, 2003
12:51:39 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: "verify please?"

Greetings daveiw,

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 11:43:16 AM, you wrote:

daveiw> Sorry again, but please verify my sig?

Verified here, imported, signed and updated.

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Re: different reply quotes for different people

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Vishal,

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:55:59 -0400 GMT (01/09/2003, 20:55 +0700 GMT),
Vishal wrote:

> 2. If not TN, is there any way I can get "The Group" as my quote prefix just for
> this one group?

I have a weird feeling I replied to this in the morning. Either you
posted the same question on another list, or I just received a
duplicate of your message, or I'm experiencing a deja-vu.

Check out the %QuoteStyle="expression" macro in the help file. I am
using %QuoteStyle="Mutti" for messages to my mother.

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Upgrade - academic to full

[William Moore]

Hello TBUDL

Has anybody upgrade from 1.x academic to 2.0 full. There doesn't seem to
be that option.
  
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Re: Group Template Reply Problem

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allen,

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:25:20 -0400 GMT (02/09/2003, 19:25 +0700 GMT),
Allen wrote:

> Generally,  this does work -- but with one problem.  When I attempt to
> reply  to  a message in the TBUDL discussion group, it uses my default
> account  template rather than my TB template.

The reason may be that you have TBUDL twice in your AB, or it is
associated with two or more groups.

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Re[4]: Version 2 Download Mirrors **SPAM OSIRU 194.109.127.137**

[Gunivortus Goos]

A>> May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
A>> upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
A>> for you guys?

> A few minutes (10 or 15).

After my online registration, they're using The Element 5 site now for that,
I got in a 'thank you' message the note:
  "The publisher will send the license key by e-mail within 48 hours."
That would make 15 hours even rather fast. :-)

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Re[3]: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Jos Klaassens]

Hello Allen,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:31:42 PM, you wrote:

A> May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
A> upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
A> for you guys?

A few minutes (10 or 15).

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Re: verify please?

[Stuart Hemming]

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dcn> Sorry again, but please verify my sig?
Verified OK using key on keyserver.pgp.com
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Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Urban]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Allen wrote:

> May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
> upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
> for you guys?

Update to my previous message.
It was a mistake on my side, the reg message had found its way to the
spam folder.

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Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Urban]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Allen wrote:

> May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
> upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
> for you guys?

I'm in the same situation you are.

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Re: the new 2.0

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Tuesday, September 02, 2003, Jurgen Haug wrote...

> I just installed the new v2 and not much has changed on the first
> look.

Depends where you look...

  - HTML Support
  - Anti-Spam Plugins
  - IMAP Support
  - PGP/MIME Support

Just a few things.

> btw, is talking about the v2 release on TBBETA not off topic now O:-)

Well, I guess discussing the release is off topic, but discussing bugs
in it isn't, as v2 seems to just be rc1, which we were beta testing.

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Re: verify please?

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Daveiw,

@2-Sep-2003, 16:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [D] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL:

D> Sorry again, but please verify my sig?

D> Best regards,

D> Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good - nice PGP/MIME sig.

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verify please?

[daveiw]

Hi all,

Sorry again, but please verify my sig?





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Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Tuesday, September 02, 2003, Anne wrote...

> Don't forget that v2 has HTML support which 1.x didn't have ;-) oh
> and the Scheduler!

And the plugins :)

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RE:SpamAssassin and TheBat ?

[Jurgen Haug]

Hello Randy,




Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 4:53:25 PM, you wrote:


> Note:

> In the following email-header, I'm using a Yahoo-Mail "From" address (my
> Yahoo POP3/SMTP address--paid service) to send (with The Bat! v2.00 ) a message
> to my runbox.com (web email) inbox (which uses SpamAssassin).

> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-92.1 required=5.0
>   tests=FORGED_MUA_THEBAT,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,
> IN_REP_TO,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,REFERENCES,USER_IN_WHITELIST
>   version=2.55
> X-Spam-Level: 
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp)

unfortunately the page got removed with the new v2 look on Ritlabs.com, but maybe that 
helps out:

http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:TThpN1rr1AAJ:www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html+%22the+bat%22+and+spam&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

it's either that, or they just haven't heard about The Bat! v2, and are actually 
having a little table with existing mail programs?




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Upgrade to 2.0

[Wayne Howard]

Hello tbudl,

Does anyone know if there is a grandfather policy for TB 2.0? I just
purchased a license for 1.62 a short time ago.
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SpamAssassin and TheBat ?

[r . burns]

Note:

In the following email-header, I'm using a Yahoo-Mail "From" address (my
Yahoo POP3/SMTP address--paid service) to send (with The Bat! v2.00 ) a message
to my runbox.com (web email) inbox (which uses SpamAssassin).

>From the (received) email header (see X-Spam-Status,) it looks like
SpamAssassin has a problem with TheBat!, as a mailer, and the way it generates a
yahoo message ID.

Is there a problem? And, is there more information about how Spam filters
treat TheBat?

Thanks,
Randy

=

Received: from mail by lassie.runbox.com with spamassassin (Exim 4.20)

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 20:35:44 -0500
From: Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00) UNREG / CD5BF9**
Reply-To: Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: 

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-92.1 required=5.0
tests=FORGED_MUA_THEBAT,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,
  IN_REP_TO,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,REFERENCES,USER_IN_WHITELIST
version=2.55
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp)

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Ver. 2 and AB Import of E-mail Addresses

[Joseph N.]

Does the release version of 2.0 have the capacity to import more than
one field of e-mail addresses? Up through the Beta versions, one could
import only one e-mail field from other file formats into the AB.
Second e-mail addresses had to go to Notes or some other field.  This
was a big deficiency in my view.  Has it been fixed?

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MS Indexing and .eml Association

[Joseph N.]

Since I turned on the MS indexing service in my Win XP Pro computer,
the O/S seems to keep changing the file association of .eml files.
Every time I load TB!, it asks me if I want to associate that format
with TB! (which I do).  Is there any way to modify the indexing
service so that it does not change the .eml file association?

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The Bat of the bat

[Jurgen Haug]

Hallo Fledermäuse,

since the Ritlabs homepage changed to v2, it looks really professional. I guess 
professional also means NO to cute little bats with mailman caps? Does anyone know who 
painted that little piece of art, and if there's more graphics with the mascot of my 
favorite mail program somewhere on the net?

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Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Peter Fjelsten wrote:

>  I must say that although I have been through all the betas (more or
>  less) I am a bit disappointed with the features in 2.0. Like someone
>  else said, if you don't use IMAP and PGP (which, I guess, most people
>  don't), there is not anything "real" new.

>  I will update, but that is in anticipation of more features later that
>  I want (e.g. full newsgroup support), not because what is there now.
>  :-(

version  2.0  has  more than 70% of new code, many features were added
and  many  of old features were improved for better handling. TB2 core
is   prepared  for  new  features,  which  will  be  implemented  soon
(completely  new  filtering system, customizable interface etc.). Many
features  were promised for V2 platform, not for 2.0 version directly.

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Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Vishal,

@1-Sep-2003, 13:29 -0400 (18:29 UK time) Vishal [V] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

V> I know, I know, this has been discussed before. But has ANYONE
V> managed to get TB to do automatic mail checks with Zonealarm Pro
V> installed?

Yes.

Many have.

A *significantly* larger proportion have *not*.

V> I'd rather not shift to Kerio yet as ZA is otherwise an excellent
V> firewall.

Kerio is an *excellent* firewall. It works well and in a seamless
manner for all. ZA is a good firewall for many, but not for most.
That precludes it from the "excellence" tag in my mind. Oh yes, and
Kerio is free. I don't see why the resistance. If ZA works for you,
fine - stay with it. If it is impeding you, as it has impeded many
others - get it out of there! :-).

V> ZA does not appear to be blockign outgoing SMTP connections, so I
V> don't know what the problem is.

The problem is ZA.

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TLS, Bayesit, NOD32 and TB version 2

[Terry]

Hi all,

If I upgrade to version 2 and utilize the Bayesian plug-in, will I
also be able to use TLS? And, am I correct in assuming that until Eset
comes up with a NOD32 version 2 plug-in for TB version 2, IMON won't
work with TLS?

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Re[2]: Wishlist item for scrutiny

[Vishal]

Hi Pixie

Saturday, August 30, 2003, 8:54:55 AM, you wrote:


P> When TB starts and  message auto-view = ON, default to preview of no
P> message. Or perhaps if it's ON by default, turn it OFF on initial
P> startup until a message is specifically selected.

I disagree. I think it increases the work and I'd rather get down to reading my
email immediately.

P> It's annoying to have spam or whatever happens to gain focus
P> at startup get tagged read, shown and so-on.

Perhaps I prefer it the way it is because I get close to zero spam. But having
to mark messages unread can be a problem, I agree. The way I work around this
(quite effective, if I may add) is to increase the time limit after which a
message is marked read. Change it to around 7-8 seconds. This will give you
enough time to delete spam or move on to the next message if you prefer that
this one remain unread.

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Re[4]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[Sean Stark]

 <==  Reply to your email of Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:37:33 PM  ==>

FdB>> Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into
FdB>> the final 2.0 version?

> Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not "included", though.
> You do have to go out and get it separately. Also the docs have not
> been improved yet.

Hello MikeD,

I use a beautiful little peice of software (for Bayesian Spam
filtering) that works well with TB (or any mail client) its called K9.
You can get it from www.keir.net/k9.html  oh yeah... its free :-)

The Sept-2003 Australian PCUser magazine compared 9 anti-spam software
products. Of the ones that were not list-based, it scored mid-field
with false-negatives at 17% (range was 15% - 20%) and it scored best
of all on false-positives at 0.1% (range was 0.1% to 4.7%).

Enjoy... ;-)

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Re: Amnesty

[Christopher Brown]

Hi danger,

dh> I have not found posted the Amnesty policy for newly registered 1.x
dh> uses to obtain a new key for Ver. 2.x

I am also interested in this. I registered on 27 August. I sent an
email to ritlabs last night, and am awaiting a response. I'm sure they
have many emails to go through this week with the new version coming
out.

As someone had mentioned a few days ago, I had over 20 days left on
the eval period, and I now hope that registering early was not a mistake.

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Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues

[Anne]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:08:41 AM,Peter wrote:

PF>  I am a bit disappointed with the features in 2.0. Like someone
PF>  else said, if you don't use IMAP and PGP (which, I guess, most people
PF>  don't), there is not anything "real" new.


Don't forget that v2 has HTML support which 1.x didn't have ;-) oh and
the Scheduler!

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 Anne  

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Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Alan Jarvis wrote:

> Hi,

> I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been
> sent an Educational license) but can't download it.  The following
> link from the Ritlabs website isn't working:

> http://download2.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat.exe

> I've also tried downloading it from www.thebat.co.uk and
> ftp.ritlabs.com with no joy. Anybody know of any alternatives?

yes, here they are:

ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/the_bat_200.exe
http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/the_bat_200.exe

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Re[2]: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Allen]

AJ> Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 1:31:42 PM, you wrote:


AJ I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been
AJ sent an Educational license) but can't download it.
CR>>> Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key
CR>>> generation.

>> May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
>> upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
>> for you guys?

AJ> About 1.5 hours for me.  I registered this morning and was surprised
AJ> it came through so quickly.

AJ> Cheers, Alan.


OK,  well  then . . . I'm just really not sure what to think about all
this.  I feel . . . botched. :-)


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Re[3]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[MikeD (3)]

Hello FJ,

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:04:14 AM, you wrote:

FdB> Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into
FdB> the final 2.0 version?

FdB> I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find
FdB> any reference.

Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not "included", though.
You do have to go out and get it separately. Also the docs have not
been improved yet.

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Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Alan Jarvis]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 1:31:42 PM, you wrote:


AJ>>> I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been
AJ>>> sent an Educational license) but can't download it.
CR>> Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key
CR>> generation.

> May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
> upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
> for you guys?

About 1.5 hours for me.  I registered this morning and was surprised
it came through so quickly.

Cheers, Alan.





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Re[2]: Version 2 Download Mirrors

[Allen]

Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 8:01:27 AM, you wrote:

CR> Hi,

AJ>> I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been
AJ>> sent an Educational license) but can't download it.
CR> Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key
CR> generation.

May   be  something  wrong,  indeed  --  as  I  have yet to receive my
upgraded  key  some  15 hours after registering.  How long did it take
for you guys?

Allen



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Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

[MikeD (3)]

Hello Vishal,

Monday, September 1, 2003, 12:29:47 PM, you wrote:

V> Hi,

V> I know, I know, this has been discussed before. But has ANYONE managed to get TB
V> to do automatic mail checks with Zonealarm Pro installed? I'd rather not shift
V> to Kerio yet as ZA is otherwise an excellent firewall. ZA does not appear to be
V> blockign outgoing SMTP connections, so I don't know what the problem is.

Yes, it works just fine for me. But I am on a newer (still beta)
version so you may need to wait for the official release of the newest
version.

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Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Avenarius,

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:33:44 +0200 GMT (02/09/2003, 07:33 +0700 GMT),
Avenarius wrote:

> However, the few hours that I've been using version 2 have convinced
> me that v2 is worth paying the price for upgrade. There are lots of
> cosmetic improvements and bug-fixes in version 2 compared to 1.61 that
> I wouldn't want to live without any longer. Such as,
[snipped]

This was the best summary so far. I have parked your message, as the
question "why pay for upgrade" is sure to be asked again and again
over the coming weeks.

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Group Template Reply Problem

[Allen]

In  my  address book, I have separate address book entries for each of
the  TB mailinglists, all of which I'm subscribed to.  I have them all
placed in a group and have defined a group template.  The idea is that
my  compose/reply/forward  template  will  be  shared  amongst  them.
Generally,  this does work -- but with one problem.  When I attempt to
reply  to  a message in the TBUDL discussion group, it uses my default
account  template rather than my TB template.  With all 3 of the other
subscriptions,  it  properly  uses  my  TB  group template.  I'm quite
certain  that  all  of  the  addresses in the group are configured the
same,  so  I'm  absolutely  stumped  as  to what might be causing this
behavior.   I must be missing something, somewhere, but I can't figure
out what.  Any ideas?

Allen

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