Version 2
How do I switch the view so the HTML is tabbed behind the plain text version of an email? I did that with the lower version and cannot find the option with the new version. Elaine Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
How do I switch the view so the HTML is tabbed behind the plain text version of an email? I did that with the lower version and cannot find the option with the new version. I found it fast after this popped into my mailbox. HTML orange and black color codes removed Massive Men Hammer Tiny Women Free! Click here! recieve no more And the idiots can't even properly spell receive in the supposed link for removal ha!. I do SO detest HTML surprising me (and I'm a great-grandmother who has been surprised a LOT in her life). WHY has such a default been set into the program? I have been using K9 for spam control. Is the new version of TB going to give me the same spam/junk control? Do I need to train the TB control as I have trained K9? Which list/forum is the best place to ask questions about this new upgrade? How many have moved on and how many have sat back to see what idiots like me find out the hard way? big grin Elaine A good deed never goes unpunished. --Gore Vidal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello John, Unfortunately when replying, sometimes the reply is cross posted, because the original message was cross posted. Not if you make your reply template include the %TO with only the group you want to reply to. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, S I am finding this as well, shame the author is not on the list I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces. Version 2.5 is coming out very soon and it corrects the SMTPNNTP not starting automatically. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, Not if you make your reply template include the %TO with only the group you want to reply to. For example, when I on on folder es.charla.politica.misc for this newsgroup, may reply _folder_ template is: ,- [ ] | Hola %OFromFName, | %LANGUAGE=SP %TO=%TO=es.charla.politica.misc | El %ODate, %OTimeLong, escribiste: | | %Quotes | %Cursor | | -- | Saludos, | %FromFName `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 10:15:00 PM, you wrote: PF I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces. I received a reply from Andrew this morning: qBug is fixed in MyGate 2.5. Release is expected by weekend./q M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2Vsulv+PP8p0/caEQLLUACffHzAViSFLn9ANvAiVVC2S558woMAoNgW TD2kFSxZ7yhKCmSq+D8JWoss =Y8v9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
VFTester
Hello, I, by accident, pressed Shift+Ctrl+Alt+T key combination and got VFTester window (v 2.00.6). Whit is it intended for? I checked 1.62r version, but there was not such a thing. -- Best regards, Artemich Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:06:04 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: T I can read but not write. TB says Cannot connect to server. I T re-read the Help on SMTP - NNTP, but cannot get it to work. Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set it to do so. I must start it manually on every start. How do you do that? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you have a glass eye, tap on it occasionally with your pen while talking to others. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Michael, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:51:40 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 01:51 +0700 GMT), Michael Geyer wrote: I used to use port 25, but the helpfile says I should use the same port as defined for the Gate, so I use port 110. Still no success. What am I doing wrong? There is a port number entry in the SMTP - NNTP (likewise in POP - NNTP) gate configuration. You can enter any _unused_ port on your machine. You have to enter _this_ port in The Bat!'s SMTP port. I have only one point where I can enter the port number: Gate / Properties / Gate / Local port. I have set this to 110, and in TB I have sent the POP port to 110, and it works. Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Couuld not connect to the server. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. http://www.maennerseiten.de/pic_gummigiraffe.htm Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: VFTester
Hello Artemich, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:16:35 +0300 GMT (15/09/2003, 15:16 +0700 GMT), Artemich wrote: I, by accident, pressed Shift+Ctrl+Alt+T key combination This is an unpublished key combination that Ritlabs sometimes use when trying out new features that have not receive a menu entry yet. and got VFTester window (v 2.00.6). Interesting. I just tested in and got the same. Hm. Whit is it intended for? I checked 1.62r version, but there was not such a thing. No, there wasn't. If you want to know what VFTester is, please ask on the beta list. It hasn't been mentioned there either, but it looks like some new kind of feature is coming up. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 7. To stop those creepy guys in Marketing from looking down your blouse. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, I have only one point where I can enter the port number: Gate / Properties / Gate / Local port. I have set this to 110, and in TB I have sent the POP port to 110, and it works. I assume you refer here to a POPNNTP gate, right? A gate to _received_ news and convert to mail, right? Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Couuld not connect to the server. Have you created an SMTPNNTP gate? A gate to _send_ mail and convert to news? If so, have you started it manually? I assume you have read that it does not start automatically. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set it to do so. I must start it manually on every start. How do you do that? Select the gate you want to start and do a Gate/Start :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, On 15-09-2003 10:35, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M Select the gate you want to start and do a Gate/Start :) Exactly! g Though I select it with the mouse and press the play icon... :) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Sean, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 22:25:39 [GMT +0100] (which was 07:25 where I live) you wrote: I just sent him one but that has not bounced, as yet I must be lucky - had two replies. Nay nah nah nah :-) -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 *** BIOS is out of date, contact vendor for upgrade *** Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:34:43 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 15:34 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Have you created an SMTPNNTP gate? A gate to _send_ mail and convert to news? Excuse for me for a moment ... blushing secretly in the backgrund ... OK I'm back. If so, have you started it manually? I assume you have read that it does not start automatically. Yes, I have read it and started the brand-new SMTP gate manually. It works fine now, thanks. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. From page 468 of Using Turbo C++ by Herbert Schildt: REMEMBER: The private parts of an object are accessible only by functions that are members of that object. (Well, there goes free love...) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Excuse for me for a moment ... blushing secretly in the backgrund ... OK I'm back. Welcome back! :-)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Excuse for me for a moment ... blushing secretly in the backgrund ... OK I'm back. Welcome back! :-)) Sorry, I hit Send too soon. Yes, I have read it and started the brand-new SMTP gate manually. It works fine now, thanks. :-) I think you even know the beer brand I like, don't you? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Etm, [E] wrote: E I have been using K9 for spam control. Is the new version of TB E going to give me the same spam/junk control? You can continue using K9 with v2. E Do I need to train the TB control as I have trained K9? The antispam controls you see in v2 require a plug-in. One is currently available and it's called Bayesit. http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm You'll need to train it as you've done with K9. E Which list/forum is the best place to ask questions about this new E upgrade? TBUDL. E How many have moved on and how many have sat back to see what idiots E like me find out the hard way? big grin I've moved on and am enjoying this version. There are many others. I among many others don't yet consider ourselves idiots for having upgraded. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
I've moved on and am enjoying this version. There are many others. I among many others don't yet consider ourselves idiots for having upgraded. Thanks, Allie. I'll continue to reserve judgment about my own intelligence in upgrading. Self-taught approaching-70 computer users should probably keep company with Gates who seems to have inspired the whole world to think in terms of XP-blues/hues. If I didn't so loathe HTML in email MS probably would have me. Best, Elaine Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 2
Hi, ETM (State of Virginia) wrote: Thanks, Allie. I'll continue to reserve judgment about my own intelligence in upgrading. Self-taught approaching-70 computer users should probably keep company with Gates who seems to have inspired the whole world to think in terms of XP-blues/hues. If I didn't so loathe HTML in email MS probably would have me. --SOT-- I understand what you mean and I think your message showed good humour and self-mockery - and: I think it's just great when people try to cope with the challenges new software gives them, regardless of age/gender etc. :-)) Even though it has to be said that there aren't many 70-year-olds who would do that, let alone those who would even sit in front of a computer with a happy face. :-) Antje Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Junk plug-in
Sunday, September 14, 2003, 11:40:38 AM, Rich wrote: R What else are batters using for a junk filter plug-in? POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net) -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
keeping old mail
Hi, I'm a person who keeps a lot of messages, I only throw the spam and not important messages away. I keep All my work related stuff. What's the best way to stor those messages, preferably in such a way that it is still easy to search through these archived messages. Thanks, -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 680 641 368 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk plug-in
Hello Peter, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 12:51:49 PM, you wrote: I used to use SpamPal which works quite well too, but you'll have to rely on their blacklists. http://www.spampal.org There's also a Bayesian filter plugin for Spampal that exists. And, it works well. And, I also use a RegEx filter plugin for Spampal. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: keeping old mail
Hallo Lex, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:15:19 +0100GMT (15-9-03, 14:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LT I'm a person who keeps a lot of messages, I only throw the spam and LT not important messages away. I keep All my work related stuff. What's LT the best way to stor those messages, preferably in such a way that it LT is still easy to search through these archived messages. What I like best is a dummy account, I called mine 'archief', where I store messages. I move those messages manually to that account. I'm using a (sub)folder structure to store my messages: main folders per subject with sub folders per period of time. The tools TB offers to search for a given message are sufficient for me. My archive account is back-upped with my normal back-up schedule. As far as HD-space is concerned, it's cheap and very accessible. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: keeping old mail
On Monday, September 15, 2003, Lex Thoonen wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: LT I keep All my work related stuff. What's the best way to stor LT those messages, preferably in such a way that it is still easy to LT search through these archived messages. Lex, Mailbag Assistant, from Fookes Software, available on the Web. It stores, it searches, it can deliver reports, you can even reply from it, and it takes mail from many different formats, so that it will be useful regardless of which mail client(s) you have. (I think there are other, similar products, but I haven't tried them.) -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
someone use v2 on NT4?
Hello, Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ? I ask because I checked many messages here listing their OS, and see nobody with NT, and I'm still having that AV with v2. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking of using TB for work
Hi Steven, @15-Sep-2003, 09:16 -0400 (14:16 UK time) Steve M. Sawczyn [SMS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SMS ... Perhaps I can have two database files, one for each SMS account? If this were possible, would each database file have SMS its own trash, sent mail, inbox, ...? Every folder in TB uses its own separate database, with a .TBB file to store the messages in that folder and a .TBI file to index them. Each TB account opens a folder tree in a separate disk directory. Even more separation. Each account has separate configuration and content control files. The separation you seek is already there and you need look no further. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking of using TB for work
Hallo Steve, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:16:36 -0400GMT (15-9-03, 15:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SMS Perhaps I can have two database files, one for each account? If SMS this were possible, would each database file have its own trash, SMS sent mail, inbox, ...? Any help with this would be greatly SMS appreciated. TB keeps your accounts separated in their own directories, each with their sub directories for the various folders. So it's rather simple to make back-ups for one account and ignore the other. Each account has it's own inbox, outbox, trash, quarantaine and whatever folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do I create the Junk Mail folder without using a plug-in?
Hello , I was playing around with BayesIT and when it caught it's first spam mail the Junk Mail folder was created. However, since I am running Spamassassin on my mail server with bayesian filtering enabled I do not need this plug-in. I have therefore set up SpamPal which gets rid of the few runaway spam mail Spamassassin lets through. I want to install The Bat! 2.0 on a couple of other machines with SpamPal, but can't figure out how to create the Junk Mail folder without having a spam plug-in do it. Am I missing something obvious? -- //Christian Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why the forums?
Hello TBUDL, I have been away from The Bat! for a while using Linux, and as you all know there are no Linux-Bat yet (sniff). Coming back I find web forums for The Bat! on the Ritlabs site, and have to ask: Why using the web to discuss an e-mail program that is wonderfully capable of dealing with a good 'ol mailing list? I do not mind web forums and message boards. But what I would like to see is that everyone that can/want to discuss a certain topic is doing it in the same place if possible. It makes the mailing list, or the message board for that matter, more useful to everyone. Right now I have to switch between a browser and The Bat! to keep myself in the loop. I am hoping that I will be able to only use this list as I did before and not have the to keep a message board open also. Just my 2 (last) cents after having upgraded to 2.0 (worth every penny though). -- //Christian Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
The antispam controls you see in v2 require a plug-in. One is currently available and it's called Bayesit. I know of TWO Bat installations that, once Bayesit was installed, caused TB to no longer start! (The fix was to rename/remove the c:\bayesit directory/folder.) I gather from many other messages I've seen that this plugin must be working for quite a number of users though. PS the subject of this thread has now become something other than the originally intended question about v2 features. At what point does one change the subject? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I create the Junk Mail folder without using a plug-in?
Hello Christian Dysthe, Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, September 15, 2003 at 3:59:14 PM CD Hello , CD I was playing around with BayesIT and when it caught it's first spam CD mail the Junk Mail folder was created. However, since I am running CD Spamassassin on my mail server with bayesian filtering enabled I do CD not need this plug-in. I have therefore set up SpamPal which gets rid CD of the few runaway spam mail Spamassassin lets through. I want to CD install The Bat! 2.0 on a couple of other machines with SpamPal, but CD can't figure out how to create the Junk Mail folder without having a CD spam plug-in do it. Am I missing something obvious? If you want to move the messages that Spampal considers to be spam you have to manually create a new folder and make a filter in the account where you want to have it active. This process is being described on the site of Spampal http://www.spampal.org/usermanual/clients/bat/bat.html it is self explanatory, for setting up the filter please look at point 3.4 hope this is of assistance -- Best regards, Renemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hello Christian, Coming back I find web forums for The Bat! on the Ritlabs site, and have to ask: Why using the web to discuss an e-mail program that is wonderfully capable of dealing with a good 'ol mailing list? I do not mind web forums and message boards. I don't have anything against forums or message boards myself but yes, it does seem a bit to use the web to discuss about an e-mail program. But what I dislike more is the fact that this forum seems to be something official by Ritlabs, while there is no mention whatsoever about this and the TBBeta lists (and others) even though they have been going on for years and helping many, many, many old and new users. I feel quite disappointed with Ritlabs if we don't even deserve a link to http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html on their site. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do I create the Junk Mail folder without using a plug-in?
Hello Cyber, Monday, September 15, 2003, 9:47:18 AM, you wrote: CT Hello Christian Dysthe, CT Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, CT September 15, 2003 at 3:59:14 PM CD Hello , CD I was playing around with BayesIT and when it caught it's first spam CD mail the Junk Mail folder was created. However, since I am running CD Spamassassin on my mail server with bayesian filtering enabled I do CD not need this plug-in. I have therefore set up SpamPal which gets rid CD of the few runaway spam mail Spamassassin lets through. I want to CD install The Bat! 2.0 on a couple of other machines with SpamPal, but CD can't figure out how to create the Junk Mail folder without having a CD spam plug-in do it. Am I missing something obvious? CT If you want to move the messages that Spampal considers to be CT spam you have to manually create a new folder and make a filter in CT the account where you want to have it active. CT This process is being described on the site of Spampal CT http://www.spampal.org/usermanual/clients/bat/bat.html CT it is self explanatory, for setting up the filter please look at point 3.4 CT hope this is of assistance Yes it was. Thanks! However, I would still like to know if it is possible somehow to create the Junk Mail System folder with the red cross somehow without having a plug-in do it. -- //Christian Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I create the Junk Mail folder without using a plug-in?
Monday, September 15, 2003, 4:11:41 PM, you wrote: Yes it was. Thanks! However, I would still like to know if it is possible somehow to create the Junk Mail System folder with the red cross somehow without having a plug-in do it. You can do it by creating a new folder called $JUNK$ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I create the Junk Mail folder without using a plug-in?
Hello Christian, Monday, September 15, 2003, 9:11:41 AM, you wrote: CD Yes it was. Thanks! However, I would still like to know if it is CD possible somehow to create the Junk Mail System folder with the CD red cross somehow without having a plug-in do it. moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Christian. Please trim replies to context. Try to cut out as much of the original text as possible in your replies so that your response is targeted to specific items in the message you are replying to. You don't necessarily need four layers of quoted material to respond to the last comment made. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. We have list archives for the purposes of being able to go back to view the entire thread contents. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug in
Hello Robert, Friday, September 12, 2003, 11:14:00 PM, you wrote: RS Hello Spike, RSActually it depends on the digital sign used. If a thawte or RSVerisign digital signature is used it means the sender took the RStime to enter his/her password and send from his client. That is snip moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Robert. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hallo Christian, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:21:32 -0500GMT (15-9-03, 16:21 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CD Why using the web to discuss an e-mail program that is wonderfully CD capable of dealing with a good 'ol mailing list? Personally I despise forums. I registered at the RIT forum and even answered some questions to get the feel of it, but answering messages in TB goes naturally for me, including my own templates, QT's, etc. I don't think I'll go on visiting it. I suppose they could relay a lot of know-how to that forum by linking it to this list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version question
Saturday, September 13, 2003, 10:58:43 PM, Roelof wrote: RO When you want to start using TB, you'd better use the newest version. RO V 2.00.6, because you can't register 1.xx anymore and most people RO answering questions on this list will be using the newest version. Having said that this list is archived and those archives are searchable, so the answers to many v1.x problems will still be available there. Some info on v1.x is also available on the unofficial support forum (see below) and there are no plans to delete that info at this time just because many have upgraded to v2.x - there will still be users who prefer to stay with v1.x and to whom that info is relevant. The forum will still offer support on v1.x even if some on this list don't feel they wish to now they're using v2.x. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:58:29 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 16:58 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I think you even know the beer brand I like, don't you? ;-) Mahou... make another tickmark behind my name in your list. I believe this is not the first one I owe you. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What is this? Arnold Schwarzenegger has a big one... Cher and Madonna don't have one... And the Pope doesn't use his... Answer: A Last Name! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: dispatch function
Saturday, September 13, 2003, 6:57:14 PM, Rich wrote: RG How is the dispatch function used? Richard, You may find this page useful.. it's a step-by-step guide for new users to use the Mail Dispatcher. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/beginners/Dispatcher.html -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Autocomplete in v2.0
Hello all, A question for those of you who have already upgraded to v2.0. Is it possible now to select autocomplete for addresses independently of autocomplete for subject? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hello MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:49:13 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 21:49 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I don't have anything against forums or message boards myself but yes, it does seem a bit to use the web to discuss about an e-mail program. There obviously was a need for it and it was satisfied. Otherwise people wouldn't use it. @Christian: I don't read web forums; I don't like them. Personal preference. I don't feel out of the loop either. Maybe I'm missing something, but I have limited time. Oh, I read seven TB-related mailing lists in three languages, and one newsgroup. I am currently in the position to have the time for so many lists, but there are even lists in English I am not subscribed to and I have to draw the line somewhere. Don't worry; TBUDL is the main list. But what I dislike more is the fact that this forum seems to be something official by Ritlabs, while there is no mention whatsoever about this and the TBBeta lists (and others) even though they have been going on for years and helping many, many, many old and new users. I feel quite disappointed with Ritlabs if we don't even deserve a link to http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html on their site. I agree there should be a link. But it's up to Ritlabs to decide. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Compaq is considering changing the command Press Any Key to Press Return Key because of the flood of calls asking where the Any key is. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Autocomplete in v2.0
Hallo MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:54:25 +0200GMT (15-9-03, 17:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Is it possible now to select autocomplete for addresses independently of M autocomplete for subject? Nope. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Autocomplete in v2.0
Hello Roelof, Nope. Darn!!! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Autocomplete in v2.0
Hello MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:54:25 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 22:54 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Is it possible now to select autocomplete for addresses independently of autocomplete for subject? You mean autocomplete addresses but not the subject? I don't see the option for this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hello Thomas, and one newsgroup. Which one is that? Is it in English? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Mahou... make another tickmark behind my name in your list. I believe this is not the first one I owe you. ;-) When I add the next tickmark I'll be able to see if auto-wrap works on my list ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
newbie here, 3 questions
Hello TBUDL, New here, just 3 questions 1. I've tried the TB v2.00.6, and found out that it doesn't support asian characters very well, especially in html email. If future version of TB can cope with asian language properly? 2. I use Becky! v2.0 now. It store every 640k letters in a file. If one file is corruptted, it would not impact other files. And TB store all mails in one file(*.tbb). What I want to know is that, if I have 300M mails store in one .tbb file, can it keep the data intact while I got power failure during fetching mails or compressing the mailbox. 3. I want to make a simplified chinese language pack for TB v2.0, but I don't know which tool is suitable. So I come here for some advice. sorry for my poor english. -- Best regards, drifthat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hello MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:09:47 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 23:09 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: and one newsgroup. Which one is that? de.alt.comp.the-bat Is it in English? It's in German. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was ist das Problem der heutigen Gesellschaft - mangelndes Wissen oder mangelndes Interesse? - Weiss ich nicht, ist mir auch egal. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hello Thomas, It's in German. I love German :-)) but I don't understand a word of it :-(( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: newbie here, 3 questions
Hello drifthat, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:07:09 +0800 GMT (15/09/2003, 23:07 +0700 GMT), drifthat wrote: 1. I've tried the TB v2.00.6, and found out that it doesn't support asian characters very well, especially in html email. If future version of TB can cope with asian language properly? Big5 is displayed fine over here, except for the missing line breaks. Which encoding are you talking about, and what is your Windows version? 2. I use Becky! v2.0 now. It store every 640k letters in a file. If one file is corruptted, it would not impact other files. And TB store all mails in one file(*.tbb). What I want to know is that, if I have 300M mails store in one .tbb file, can it keep the data intact while I got power failure during fetching mails or compressing the mailbox. I haven't experienced problems, but that may be because I haven't experienced a power failure for a long time. Where are you located? 3. I want to make a simplified chinese language pack for TB v2.0, but I don't know which tool is suitable. So I come here for some advice. The intpack used to contain some Chinese versions, but I have only an subset with European languages at the moment, so I don't know the current status. I think Max Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the person you want to contact with your noble intentions. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I like to sing to the songs on the radio in my car. When you go into a tunnel, it's hard to come out on the right note. Actually, the news is more difficult. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Periodic mail checking annoyance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL! I usually read my mailing lists with View/Display/Only Unread Messages toggled. If I set the account to poll for new mail periodically the message I am reading in the preview pane disappears when the new mail arrives in that group. Any suggestions how to work around this? - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA X-Request-PGP: http://www.kcoates.com/0x434798B9.htm Using TB! v2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/ZenWRbTFvUNHmLkRAvbNAKDZqP/JIYtzGHjZNGPaV3Xc7PsP5ACeKrMR GG0HEukPhdhzjX01kJ15/DE= =905f -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Autocomplete in v2.0
Hallo MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:08:21 +0200GMT (15-9-03, 18:08 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Nope. M Darn!!! Yep, it would be a nice enhancement. I wonder if anyone has taken the trouble to feed it to the wishlist. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, September 15, 2003 1:01:21 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy Greetings Thomas, On Monday, September 15, 2003, 4:23:14 AM, you wrote: Thomas Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Thomas Couuld not connect to the server. Port 119 outbound since you are not sending to an SMTP or POP(3) server? - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. This website may not be idiot proof, but at least it's dimwit resistant. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2Xwurwi09Hs/j+VEQL6HwCfS/0h7rbM/6jy6tshfVo5PpVjS4cAn25T GJsdsdNSVnofObG4KxYvAekr =/8GC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello DG, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:02:52 -0400 GMT (16/09/2003, 00:02 +0700 GMT), DG Raftery Sr. wrote: Thomas Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Thomas Couuld not connect to the server. Port 119 outbound since you are not sending to an SMTP or POP(3) server? Thanks for your input, but I hadn't set up an SMTPNNTP gate in MyGate. It works fine now. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hallo MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:26:36 +0200GMT (15-9-03, 18:26 +0200, where I live), you wrote: It's in German. M I love German :-)) but I don't understand a word of it :-(( Strange, you can do Spanish and that's much more difficult. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodic mail checking annoyance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pixie, Monday, September 15, 2003, 5:46:29 PM, you wrote: P On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:33:25 -0400 GMT, Kevin Coates wrote: I usually read my mailing lists with View/Display/Only Unread Messages toggled. If I set the account to poll for new mail periodically the message I am reading in the preview pane disappears when the new mail arrives in that group. Any suggestions how to work around this? P It's very annoying, I ended up going back to view all. Most P accommodating work-around if it really is one, is to set the 'mark read P after xx' off or a reasonable time longer than your auto fetch P interval. P I haven't tried it but maybe parking all the messages? What about an item for the wish list? Under View-Display-Advanced filtering... it would be great to have options for Messages older than n days, hours, minutes etc. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2Xy0Fv+PP8p0/caEQJ9qQCg+UFZCdVEpSSCS3NPTltkm/GvmncAoLU4 2QhEtnioiIB/hIxEmr09N29n =cjpN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Autocomplete in v2.0
Hello Roelof, Yep, it would be a nice enhancement. Yes, it would be nice. I wonder if anyone has taken the trouble to feed it to the wishlist. ;-) Yes, I do wonder too ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
Hello Roelof, Strange, you can do Spanish and that's much more difficult. Yeap. That's because I'm quite smart. My issue with German is pure laziness ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodic mail checking annoyance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pixie, On Monday, September 15, 2003 at 12:46 (-0400 GMT), Pixie [P] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: P Most accommodating work-around if it really is one, is to set the P 'mark read after xx' off or a reasonable time longer than your auto P fetch interval. Thanks, I'll give that a try. Its so annoying to be in the middle of reading an interesting message only to have it disappear, and then spend 5 minutes hunting for it. Perhaps the authors can fix this annoyance ... someday. :) - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA X-Request-PGP: http://www.kcoates.com/0x434798B9.htm Using TB! v2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/ZfUfRbTFvUNHmLkRAiO3AJ4/bX0hLitH+gOxZ1lWCTLpVQPn+ACfWcB6 7rud4dcSl7bSm58tgUx9IjY= =N4BT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
certificates and servers- at wits end...
Hello List! I've been lurking the list(s) since December (when I bought TB1.62r) and had a couple forays into the archives but have not yet found a way to get SSL/TLS working for me on any servers with that capability. I really need your help here- detailed steps, if possible, would be most appreciated. The first day TB!2 became available for upgrade I jumped as well used every beta since December in an attempt to get this to work. About my 3 problem mail accounts: AKO- us.army.mil is POP3, IMAP4 (preferred), and SMTP, all SSL secure to dedicated and require authentication for use. Server Cert is DOD issued and the entire chain has been imported to system trusted root store. MRB- .myrealbox.com is POP3, IMAP4 (preferred), and SMTP all allow secure to dedicated and StartTLS option, I have to authenticate to SMTP to send past my ISP... Server cert is Comodo issued but has a goofy *.myrealbox.com server name that TB refuses to entertain. I'm not sure how to import their cert to system trusted root store- I don't know how to download a .p* or .cer from the site... Cotse- pop.cotse.com (POP3) and www.cotse.net (SMTP) only and allow secure to dedicated port and StartTLS option. The POP cert is a self CA job and the SMTP cert is issued by Equifax. I have requested they send me a copy of the certs used so I can import them to root... More about my ultra-frustrating problem g On AKO I can finally direct connect to pop and imap, not sure what happened here to allow this, but I cannot send SMTP secure (I can send plain though)... I really need the dialog box that pops up and asks to trust this cert to have an enabled 'add to trusted' button. TB continues to complain of the certificate heirarchy... Getting this one working properly is critical, especially smtp since the pop and imap work when I keep eyes on for popup dialog... On MRB I get absolutely nowhere, TB complains of server and cert not matching pop3/imap/smtp.myrealbox.com is server name, *.myrealbox.com is the cert name presented... I really need to get this one working, at least to prompt me for permission rather than silently fail- every single time... On COTSE, neither the pop nor the smtp work, the failure is during the TLS handshake and again is silent- no user prompt to accept nor add to trusted. Is there really any reason this process has not been made simple to the point of fool proof? (maybe a post to tbbeta about that;) I use JBMail3.2 off a USBkey drive and it works flawlessly, asking me the first time if I want to trust the cert and making a hash of it from there, once done- there are no issues unless there is a change. I must say I love TB, especially since IMAP has developed so nicely, but when I bought it in Dec- the version change log was what made me decide TB was for me and that was the exceptional (sounding) SSL/TLS support as well integrated certificate function and PGP support. ok, I know I talk alot, especially for my first post and all- but if you can feel my pain I beg you to reply as detailed as my described plight is... -- Most Sincerely, Mark (aka- Army RedLeg) Using TheBat! 2.00.6 on Win2ksp3+ (plus all patches:) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
LDAP over SSL
Hi! I'm playing aroung with IMAP on The Bat 2 and the last thing I need to get working is to connect our LDAP address book. The problem here is that the LDAP server only works over SSL. Somehow I cannot find any option to create an LDAP address book with SSL. Am I missing something or is it really not there. Thanks in advance for any answers. Greets, Robert F. Beeger || | Robert F. Beeger | | e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | web-site : http://beeger.net | || Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodic mail checking annoyance
Hello Martin, What about an item for the wish list? Under View-Display-Advanced filtering... it would be great to have options for Messages older than n days, hours, minutes etc. You can actually achieve that very easily with the Search tool. Search let's say for a space and on the Advanced tab select the date. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodic mail checking annoyance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MAU, Monday, September 15, 2003, 6:40:37 PM, you wrote: What about an item for the wish list? Under View-Display-Advanced filtering... it would be great to have options for Messages older than n days, hours, minutes etc. M You can actually achieve that very easily with the Search tool. Search M let's say for a space and on the Advanced tab select the date. But I was referring to current view; e.g. only display unread messaged received in the last 2 hours. ;-) I don't think the search works with hours and minutes either. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2X7xFv+PP8p0/caEQKyyQCgrphS8dXK0x6g1fz4bi1NVALZI4UAoNIQ 6JuL+wCK89U0c9+2O9reTrAU =eM80 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Separate signature
Hello, Why do some messages have TBUDL signature separated as a attachment? -- Dejan [aka Sir Jinx!] ICQ#: 179138447 http://wwp.icq.com/179138447 When a man says money can do anything, that settles it: he hasn't got any. Edgar Watson Howe Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Folder
Hello Richard, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 5:25:04 AM, you wrote: DG I've noticed the Empty Folder function is considerably and DG annoyingly slower in v2 than in the 1.63 beta series. Although DG the progress indicator is nice. Mine is considerably quicker with v.2 than before. I don't see any progress indicator, however; maybe it's because it empties the folder (with several hundred messages) in a fraction of a second? I've figured out a pattern. If I empty a large folder of regular sized, no attachment emails, it occurs more rapidly than before. If I empty a folder of emails that all have attachments, it is much slower than before. It seems that, for some reason, message size has become an issue in emptying the folder whereas it wasn't previously. Another thing I've noticed. If I empty several hundred large attachment emails from the Inbox, it takes several minutes. When I empty the same messages from the Trash, it is instantaneous. -- Dave Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Problem with AVG upgrade
Hello Joan, Saturday, September 13, 2003, 11:07:55 AM, you wrote: JJ -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JJ Hash: SHA1 JJ Hello Jamie, JJ On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, at 17:16:16 [GMT +0100] JJ (which was 13/09/2003 (D/M/Y) 18:16 where I live) you wrote: JD Uninstall and reinstall it from fresh. JJ I did. I uninstalled, downloaded the full AVG anew, I deleted the grisoft JJ folder with the remaining files and reinstalled the new full JJ 6.0.518 version (free). snip JJ Now I suspect that the program is not *damaged*, but that it JJ is *modified*, and this is the normal behavior of the new version. JJ Any idea about that? If this is really the case, is it a trick JJ from Grisoft to push you into purchasing a paid version? Has their JJ sense of how to conduct business been *damaged* ?. It works fine here. I ran into problems on another computer when trying to update by the method you first mentioned. It's much cleaner and safer to use the AVG Control Center for updating. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with AVG upgrade
Hello Quin, Monday, September 15, 2003, 12:13:04 PM, you wrote: JJ -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JJ Hash: SHA1 QS It works fine here. I ran into problems on another computer when QS trying to update by the method you first mentioned. It's much QS cleaner and safer to use the AVG Control Center for updating. moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Christian. Please trim replies to context. Try to cut out as much of the original text as possible in your replies so that your response is targeted to specific items in the message you are replying to. You don't necessarily need four layers of quoted material to respond to the last comment made. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text, and/or the PGP signature. We have list archives for the purposes of being able to go back to view the entire thread contents. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scheduler problems
Sunday, September 14, 2003, 1:35:16 AM, you wrote: [...] Any ideas about why I'm only getting the Reminder window, and nothing else? Just guessing: A bug? If anyone knows a work around, I'd be interested as well ... Here's what I don't get, Peter. A bug, at least to my way of thinking, is essentially a *quirk* in a program. For example, if someone is doing something (or has something on his computer) that the programmer couldn't possibly have allowed/planned for, the program might not work exactly as advertised, or it might not work at all under those specific conditions, etc. But Scheduler doesn't do just about *everything* that it's *supposed* to do, so how can that just be a bug? It's like Scheduler was just an rough draft add-on that isn't/wasn't ready for prime time yet. And why there are no work-arounds for it, either. So why even include it at all? I just don't get it. Look, I love TB!, don't get me wrong. And I will wait patiently for Rit-Labs to get Scheduler to work as advertised. But the thing I've always loved most about it is, with the lone exception of Agent, it has always been my most BOMB PROOF program, *very* stable, etc. I never had to worry about stuff not working as advertised. I can't say that anymore. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Separate signature
Hi An, @15-Sep-2003, 10:34 +0200 (09:34 UK time) An Incurable TheBatoholic [AIT] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: AIT Why do some messages have TBUDL signature separated as a AIT attachment? Because they have minor attachments, such as PGP/MIME or S/MIME signatures (like this message) that come between the message body and the footer. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why the forums?
* MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Thomas, and one newsgroup. Which one is that? de.alt.comp.the-bat (in a few weeks it will move to de.comm.software.mailreader.the-bat) Is it in English? No, German. -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
* MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Carsten, - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you should follow the rules. Why not Carsten? What I suggested is so that MIDs will be unique to _his_ messages Ok, as long as you don't use fake addresses no problem for me. Sorry, I didn't get the point here. -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
* Thomas Fernandez writes: [ USENET, The Bat! and MyGate ] I even use a valid email-address (one that I don't check very often). Even? AFAIK you use news.cis.dfn.de or news.individual.de|net. Then you *must* use valid e-mail addresses: http://news.individual.net/rules.html http://news.individual.net/faq.html#5.3 http://news.cis.dfn.de/dnn/rules.html(German) http://news.cis.dfn.de/dnn/faq.html#5.3 (German) This is off-topic, isn't it? -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Carsten, Monday, September 15, 2003, 12:13:15 PM, you wrote: CT Even? AFAIK you use news.cis.dfn.de or news.individual.de|net. Then CT you *must* use valid e-mail addresses: snip CT This is off-topic, isn't it? It's getting there. I've CC'd it to TBOT for you. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v2 strange behavior
Hello Melissa, Monday, September 15, 2003, 1:47:23 PM, you wrote: Sometimes when a new message comes into a folder, I'll hear the new message sound, but the new messages list in the folder tree will not show in bold font until I actually click on that folder. This causes me to not know which folder within the account has received new mail until I get lucky and click on the affected folder. This doesn't happen every time new mail comes in, but it happens often enough to be annoying. For what it's worth, I've noticed that type of behaviour (though only occasionally) under 1.x. I've definitely seen it on my XP machine, but I think it may also happen once in a while on the Win2K machine as well. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.62r on Windows XP Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: someone use v2 on NT4?
Hello Wilfried, WM Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ? So I think I can make already conclusion :( If I develop a new software is is tested on all stable OS. I assume I have to downgrade and wait until TB is testet in NT ? if they ever wants to do.. The sorry thing is that I have payed for the upgrade :( -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: someone use v2 on NT4?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Wilfried, Monday, September 15, 2003, 2:04:49 PM, you wrote: WM Is someone here using version 2 of TB on windows NT4 SP6a ? WM I ask because I checked many messages here listing their OS, and see nobody WM with NT, and I'm still having that AV with v2. A quick search of my archive shows a few using version 2 with Windows NT. WM -- WM Rgds, Wilfried BTW, your new message template is missing a space after the -- in your signature. Your reply template looks okay. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2YgD1v+PP8p0/caEQKyCACfSN49+OXfaE+s4y3nmxyAB1+SgyQAoNOd BWL56LYTnI0IpVmx9sPoTjIK =mEhV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Autocomplete in v2.0
Hallo MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:16:51 +0200GMT (15-9-03, 19:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Yes, I do wonder too ;-) Are we going to initiate a 'me too' thread just between the two of us? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v2 strange behavior
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Melissa, On Monday, September 15, 2003 at 12:47 (-0700 GMT), Melissa Reese [MR] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MR when a new message comes into a folder, I'll hear the new MR message sound, but the new messages list in the folder tree MR will not show in bold font until I actually click on that folder. If its any consolation, it happens here also. I believe it is a bug that's been previously reported. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/Zh31RbTFvUNHmLkRAjiPAKCc6mD+H8alVKD5tCJ0aRenxTjTlgCfV6Cs e5ZnSwE3SO96U2ZA+jeWYCk= =lFYL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Autocomplete in v2.0
Hello Roelof, Are we going to initiate a 'me too' thread just between the two of us? Not me! ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Sunday, September 14, 2003, 12:32:14 AM, DG wrote: DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could resolve and will query root DNS servers. DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Invalid naming convention. No resolve query. You men that even though it's formatted like an e-mail address TB! knows it isn't because of the invalid and doesn't make it a hotlink ... ? -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Saturday, September 13, 2003, 1:48:43 AM, Thomas wrote: TF Doesn't work here on the above URL. Using PTV. H that's strange Thomas as I only use the PTV as well and it works just fine for me... I wonder why it doesn't for you? Ahhh I've just thought... are you highlighting the [brackets] as well? If so it won't work... you have to highlight the text inside the brackets! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:14:47 PM, MAU wrote: M That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try? Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-) What I will do is try it on a standalone PC that isn't on the network. One without any personal files, shared drives etc... I won't put mine online without a firewall in case it compromises the network. Thanks for the suggestion though. :-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hallo Anne, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:25:42 +0100GMT (15-9-03, 23:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could resolve and will query root DNS servers. DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Invalid naming convention. No resolve query. A You men that even though it's formatted like an e-mail address TB! A knows it isn't because of the invalid and doesn't make it a hotlink A ... ? It's not the word invalid, but it's that the tld (in this case 'invalid') is longer than four characters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG PS the subject of this thread has now become something other than RG the originally intended question about v2 features. At what point RG does one change the subject? Whenever you think it appropriate. I read all messages so I at times, inadvertently ignore the subject. So if we continue to discuss the antispam plugin support then we'd need to change the subject. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Saturday, September 13, 2003, 3:26:20 AM, Vishal wrote: V Update - it worked for me too! Thank you VERY much Anne..this problem has V plagued me for as long as I can remember :) Here's a reason for people to V upgrade to version 2 - ladies and gentlemen..please welcome..the scheduler! Glad you finally got it to work Vishal... I hate problems like that that can't be resolved. (Like a terrier me - I never give up! ;-) I'd still like to know why the auto checking won't work by itself, but that may take more experimentation! -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Saturday, September 13, 2003, 3:32:40 AM, Vishal wrote: V How do I let Marek know? Do you think you could forward the mail I just sent V about it working? I'd really like the developers to know. Thanks! I thought he was subbed to this list also so would have seen the message as well, but if not he's def subbed to TBBETA list, you can find him through there. :-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Saturday, September 13, 2003, 4:24:56 PM, Vishal wrote: V I've never tried it myself since I find the ticker V irritating I wonder if I'm the only person who finds that the ticker makes them nauseous? Literally when I had the ticker running I had the same effects as with motion sickness so I have turned it off and have never been able to use it. It's a shame as I'm sure it'd be useful if it just didn't make me feel ill. :-( -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Monday, September 15, 2003, 11:00:02 PM, Roelof wrote: RO It's not the word invalid, but it's that the tld (in this case RO 'invalid') is longer than four characters. Ahhh right, I see... thanks for the clarification Roelof. :-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
On Monday, September 15, 2003 at 5:56:41 PM, Anne wrote in the message zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wonder if I'm the only person who finds that the ticker makes them nauseous? Literally when I had the ticker running I had the same effects as with motion sickness so I have turned it off and have never been able to use it. It's a shame as I'm sure it'd be useful if it just didn't make me feel ill. :-( Do you feel sick even if it is going at its slowest speed? I don't feel sick. I just have trouble tracking it if it is moving too quickly. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. How do I set my laser printer on stun? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
On Monday, September 15, 2003 at 8:26:00 PM, Chris wrote in the message zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. How do I set my laser printer on stun? Shoot... My signature's messed up. It should be all fixed now... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Billboard on the side of the road: Keep your eyes on the road and stop reading these signs. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP and attached files
Hello TBUDL, I'm sending an email with an attachment. I pick SHFT-ALT-E (Sign and encyrpt entire message). The message gets encrypted but not the attachment. PGP/Mime is set to Auto. Under PGP Options use PGP/Mime when sending emails is ticked. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong ? or what I'm not doing ? I just want the attachment to also be encrytped. When I receive an email with an encypted attachment I choose decrypt and *before* I type anything it displays the msg box The passphrase you entered does not match any of the listed keys. That msg popup is redisplayed each time I hit the OK button (about a dozen times). When it stops redisplaying, I get the chance to enter the passphrase and all seems to work fine. Just one question: it seems that the only way to decrypt the in-coming attached file is to save the file, then decrypt it outside of thebat!. Is that correct ? or is there a way to decrypt the attached file within thebat ? -- kind regards, Sean _ Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 1:26:00 AM, Chris wrote: C Do you feel sick even if it is going at its slowest speed? C I don't feel sick. I just have trouble tracking it if it is moving too C quickly. Yes even when it's very slow :-( I can't watch scrolling games or anything like that either - they have the same effect. Even using a microfilm/fiche reader does it to me. :-( -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v2 strange behavior
Hello Kevin, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:15:48 -0400 GMT (16/09/2003, 03:15 +0700 GMT), Kevin Coates wrote: MR when a new message comes into a folder, I'll hear the new MR message sound, but the new messages list in the folder tree MR will not show in bold font until I actually click on that folder. If its any consolation, it happens here also. I believe it is a bug that's been previously reported. There was a bug that was reported for the first v2-beta, and that one has been fixed. I am not sure whether what you describe under XP has been reported; I see all of you use XP and Shauna even reprots to have seen it under 1.x. I suggest you check the bugtracker whether this bug is really reported there, and add it if not. www.ritlabs.com/bt -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I've noticed that the press tends to be quite accurate, except when they're writing on a subject I know something about. - (Keith F. Lynch) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
First, create a new pad in SmartBat. For example, a new pad named Clips. Now try to delete it. Good luck with that! It will remain in the SmartBat's tabular index no matter what you do. You can even fire a cruise missile at it, totally destroying it via Microsoft Explorer, but it will *still* be included in the tabular index. Like kudzu, you just can't kill it. -- Best regards, Jack mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:31:22 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 04:31 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: M That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try? Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-) You mean this is how Miguel hurt his knee? Wow, I didn't know what hackers/crackers are capabable of... ;-) What I will do is try it on a standalone PC that isn't on the network. One without any personal files, shared drives etc... I won't put mine online without a firewall in case it compromises the network. Good thinking. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. SYMPTOM: Opposite wall covered with fluorescent lights. FAULT: You have fallen over backward. ACTION: Have yourself lashed to bar. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Jack, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] First, create a new pad in SmartBat. For example, a new pad named Clips. Now try to delete it. Good luck with that! If you use Close pad instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not the way it should work I know, but it does ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello Anne, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:33:55 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 04:33 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: TF Doesn't work here on the above URL. Using PTV. H that's strange Thomas as I only use the PTV as well and it works just fine for me... I wonder why it doesn't for you? Ahhh I've just thought... are you highlighting the [brackets] as well? If so it won't work... you have to highlight the text inside the brackets! ;-) We might be talking about different things: Yes, I can copy and paste. But this is not what I am talking about. *I* don't highlight anything, TB does it for me. Again: Works = www.url.com Doesn't work = [www.url.com] The difference I am seeing that the first one is light-blue and underlined in both TB's editor when I type it, and the viewer when I read it. You should see the same. On the first, I can click and it opens in the browser. The second is just text and I would have to cp it into my browser's address field. I hope I have explained it better now. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Have you had your Hard drive axle checked for alignment? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Jack, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:17 +0700 GMT), Jack Morrison wrote: First, create a new pad in SmartBat. For example, a new pad named Clips. Now try to delete it. Good luck with that! It will remain in the SmartBat's tabular index no matter what you do. Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it. You can even fire a cruise missile at it, totally destroying it via Microsoft Explorer, but it will *still* be included in the tabular index. I didn't try the cruise missile thing, so that part is not confirmed... By MS Explorer, I guess you mean windows Explorer and not Internet Explorer, and I used total Commander instead and deleted the file while TB closed. Upon restart of TB, the tab is still there in SmartBat, but of course the text is gone. But it is not empty: I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from the maintab in the new tab. When I go to the main tab, that entry is missing. Back to the new tab, it is gone there too. Closing SmartBat and reopening it shows the entry back in the new tab and missing from the main tab, but gone again when going back to the new tab. No text file for the new tab on the HD. Anybody can confirm this? So, I type something into the new tab. A text file gets created on the HD. Close SmartBat, reopen, the old entry from the main tab is there again, plus the newly-type text. Main tab is still missing that entry. Back to new tab shows only the newly-typed text. Text file on HD contains only the newly-typed text. Is anybody seeing the same? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 10. A computer program will always do what you tell it to do, but rarely what you want it to do. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
