Re: Folders and rearranging
On Friday, December 12, 2003 at 9:24:23 PM, Allie Martin wrote in the message Folders and rearranging mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Insert Before/After buttons for new rule creations would increase usability a lot. And UI clutter On this count I disagree. To each, his or her own. How does that clutter? That there are four Insert/Remove buttons is cluttered. However, if they were list buttons, it would not be as cluttered. When I say list button, I mean a button that when the vast majority of it is clicked, it preform the simple operation. However, when the far right is clicked (often indicated by ), a menu pops up with more advanced options. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Outside a Muffler Shop: No appointment necessary, we hear you coming. Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re : Re : Lost french translation
Hello, CF We can try... Do you want me to set one ? Of course. Do tou create it or I create it ? -- Rgards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Headers in quotes
Hello Ken, On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:06:53 -0800 GMT (13/12/2003, 03:06 +0700 GMT), Ken Stuart wrote: (Perhaps an option is needed Popup a warning if all headers are quoted...) Tell me you are not serious please. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Specify that your drive-through order is to go. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam reporting
Hello Lynn, On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:51:49 -0800 GMT (13/12/2003, 10:51 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: I know there's a switch that will let me attach an email with full headers so I can send it, say, to an isp to let him know one of his members is generating spam. MIME-attach the message. You can do that by clicking on Specials / Alternative Forward (shift-alt-F5), assuming that inline forward is your default. Alternatively, you can also create a new message to your ISP and just drop the offending message into it; it will then be MIME-attached just the same. But I can't remember how to do it, and can't find the mail I saw it in a year or so ago ... if you tell me again, I promise to save it for ever and ever! That's not necessary. Just buy me a beer. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Er hatte schwarze, glatte, hellbraune Haare, trug helle Jeans... * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam reporting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ken, On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, at 20:36:41 [GMT -0800] (which was 13/12/2003 (D/M/Y) 5:36 where I live) you wrote: KS Only two things work - the less effective one is using spam software KS to filter your mail and then delete the spam after scanning the KS titles/senders for real e-mails. As I posted before in the TBOT list, I find that it tends to work less, because spammers are learning to disguise the words. How does software identify words like pen1s, viag/ra and its unlimited variations, that all readers identify? - -- Best regards, Joan Josep -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - build 08 Comment: KeyID: 0xF6A61F93 iQA/AwUBP9rHx97hKWb2ph+TEQLt7gCfVSg3p3OBNR/tAUznjm69ga3FLIAAoJXa 9rGjsDlA4KY+odnzhE1B3P4S =1svN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suppress Resent-From: Header?
ON Friday, December 12, 2003, 6:15:02 PM, you wrote: KS That's a possible workaround, although since I have it set to send KS every 1 minute, there is a chance it might be sent before I can change KS the sender. I'm hoping there is a more solid way to do it. Hi Ken, As always in these Header cases X-Ray is your answer :-) One easy filter and the header is gone or altered forever. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I found out that all the important lessons of life are contained in the three rules for achieving a perfect golf swing. 1) Keep your head down. 2) Follow through. 3) Be born with money. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to bounce a message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 11 December 2003 4:35 pm, DG Raftery Sr.®© wrote: I was looking at your QT and was playing with it but oops! My experiment(s) were sent directly to this list. No chance of stopping them so for that I apologize. No problem Dude :) You obviously noticed the deliberate error, ctrl+enter should have been ctrl +space ? I miss that QT very much. Kmail has the Bounce option built in but it only bounces it from the first address in the list. If like me your normaly 4th in the cc list then it's not so good... Ces't la vie! - -- ___ Tony.©AWB 2003 SuSE 9.0® Kmail 1.5.4 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.boom/pgpkey.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/2NhTgOXiXpgUqGERAusDAJ9lCe+z9sWBOjlB7+HOlzRG+pab3QCbBoBD O848+fsUc681WcwlPQj0X64= =ysyx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML not creating links
Hi Ken, @12-Dec-2003, 21:05 -0800 (13-Dec 05:05 UK time) Ken Stuart [KS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: KS If that same href were attached to a text, it would be KS clickable, so why not make the 77x17 box with the red X KS clickable ? You make good point Kemo Sabe. I agree. KS PS Has this been reported to the bug/enhancement database KS before? I haven't seen it there, but a quick search should unearth the issue if there. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML not creating links
On Saturday, December 13, 2003, 6:05:15, Ken Stuart wrote: If that same href were attached to a text, it would be clickable, so why not make the 77x17 box with the red X clickable ? Workaround: you can click the red X (and if the image has alt text, you can click that, too. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ The only things that start on time are those that you're late for. -- Cayo's Law Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Christmas Discount
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On 13 December 2003, 04:00 +0100 ( 03:00 local time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PO How shall I explain that, and the X-mass offer being cheaper, to my PO boss?? I think your ranting has cost more than $3 so I'd keep quiet! :-) - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.02.3 CE | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBP9r5XDY1I3RKW2JdEQIlhACdFRuiFbJ8wRqxteMvnFFOltXku6UAn01g gIUYBXcazrhAV3jYvrEFOt2b =+JOj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam reporting
On Friday, December 12, 2003, 10:51 PM, you wrote: L I know there's a switch that will let me attach an email L with full headers so I can send it, say, to an isp to let L him know one of his members is generating spam. you can use the full headers-by hitting F9 to view them separately, or CTRL-SHIFT-K to change to full-header view. once viewing full headers, just forward the message. to send the message to the correct ISPs and admins, it is much easier to use spamcop ( IMHO). check out spamcop.net http://www.spamcop.net/ , Marck has created filters for TB that make it real easy to just hit CTRL-ALT-S and send the message to spamcop, and a second filter that will take the receiving message and bring up the spamcop window to complete the report. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-5 (11.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Christmas Discount
Hello Peter, On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 10:00:56 PM, you wrote re: The Bat! Christmas Discount: PO Another reason I posted the msg: PO At work I introduced TB! 15 copies, in July, being a 1.62 version. PO 2 or 3 months later V2.xx was released. PO You could buy it, at 50% of the normal price. Hell, we just paid for it! PO Hardly any overlap, not even close to half a year. PO How do you expect me to react to such an offer??? PO How shall I explain that, and the X-mass offer being cheaper, to my PO boss?? Very few software vendors have a grandfather update policy of a year. The industry average is around 60 days. I've seen very few that give any special upgrade price to those who purchased an upgrade within one year. If your boss doesn't understand that already than he hasn't been paying attention to the software industry. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam reporting
Friday, December 12, 2003, 11:59:55 PM, you wrote: I know there's a switch that will let me attach an email with full headers so I can send it, say, to an isp to let him know one of his members is generating spam. TF MIME-attach the message. TF You can do that by clicking on Specials / Alternative Forward TF (shift-alt-F5), assuming that inline forward is your default. That's what I was looking for! TF Alternatively, you can also create a new message to your ISP and just TF drop the offending message into it; it will then be MIME-attached TF just the same. Thought I'd tried that, but I just tested it and it worked .. [snip] TF That's not necessary. Just buy me a beer. ;-) You got it .. the next time I'm in town! And in the meantime, my undying gratitude :-) Lynn -- TheBat 1.62r Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Spam reporting
Saturday, December 13, 2003, 1:03:07 AM, you wrote: JJ As I posted before in the TBOT list, I find that it tends to work JJ less, because spammers are learning to disguise the words. How does JJ software identify words like pen1s, viag/ra and its unlimited JJ variations, that all readers identify? I was able to build a pretty successful black list simply by using the offending ip addresses; this didn't get rid of the yahoo/msn/hotmail offerings, but it reduced my spam by a considerable amount. I've never gotten any legitimate mail from China, South America or Spain, but a high percentage of my spam mail actually originated in those places. If my correspondence expands to embrace those places I'll have to amend my list, perhaps, but in the meantime ... What's more worrying is that my old isp took to 'identifying' spam; unfortunately his ID's included most of my legitimate commercial subscriptions .. and my new one wants to do the same, and is willing to dump them before they ever get to my mailbox ... he has an off switch for this useful gadget, but I clearly need to identify my *own* spam, not someone elses version of same. Aren't you thrilled that we now have anti-spam laws? sarcasm/off Lynn -- TheBat 1.62r Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam reporting
Saturday, December 13, 2003, 4:28:28 AM, you wrote: PC you can use the full headers-by hitting F9 to view them separately, or PC CTRL-SHIFT-K to change to full-header view. once viewing full headers, PC just forward the message. to send the message to the correct ISPs and PC admins, it is much easier to use spamcop ( IMHO). check out PC spamcop.net http://www.spamcop.net/ , Marck has created filters for TB PC that make it real easy to just hit CTRL-ALT-S and send the message to PC spamcop, and a second filter that will take the receiving message and PC bring up the spamcop window to complete the report. Thanks Paul .. I owe you my undying gratitude and a beer too! Lynn -- TheBat 1.62r Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML not creating links
Hello Jernej, Saturday, December 13, 2003, 2:28:42 AM, you wrote: JS On Saturday, December 13, 2003, 6:05:15, Ken Stuart wrote: If that same href were attached to a text, it would be clickable, so why not make the 77x17 box with the red X clickable ? JS Workaround: you can click the red X (and if the image has alt text, you can JS click that, too. You are absolutely right, thanks! I thought that the link was altogether gone, but it is there on the red X itself. I guess I am used to right clicking on the red X only - to select Show Picture when there is a temporary fault. So, my request is only an enhancement, rather than a bug. -- Cheers, Ken Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Broken lines when using the answer button.
Hi Robin Wednesday, December 10, 2003, 7:37:59 AM, you wrote: RA Could others confirm this? Definitely. Happens all the time. Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
baysian problems
Hello buds, Ever since i installed the spam plugin baysian, my connection center seems to hang up occasionally. I have to bring up task manager and terminate the Bat.. and restart it. Any ideas why? I'm on TB 2.01.3 .. Thanks! -- Best regards, Laura mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Christmas Discount
Hello Wayne, On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:03:12 -0500 your time, you said: WH Very few software vendors have a grandfather update policy of a WH year. [...snip] If your boss doesn't understand that already than WH he hasn't been paying attention to the software industry. I really don't think that's the point Peter is making. It's been only a few months since many existing users upgraded to v2.x at the discounted upgrade, many upgraded because there was a set time period to upgrade in at the discounted price...so may upgraded believing that the discount offer wouldn't get any better than it was. But along comes Xmas and all of a sudden the discount is greater, and it is now obvious to his boss that it would have been wiser to hang on and get the upgrades for less. Not only that, but those that upgrade now are getting a better discount than the early adopters, those folk that do all the work 'checking TB! out' and reporting bugs. I can understand where Peter is coming from, and I think he's got a fair point actually. -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #738. Islam Qed Sour Wry ¶ Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: baysian problems
Hello Laura, =(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))On you wrote in : 'mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ever since i installed the spam plugin baysian, my connection center seems to hang up occasionally. I have to bring up task manager and terminate the Bat.. and restart it. Are you talking about the Baysian filter that goes with SpamPal or the other one (Bayesit)? If it's the first then I can confirm that it happens occasionally. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.02.3 CE SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and the best browser: Opera7.23 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: baysian problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi alists, On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:47:44 -0800 (11:47 AM here), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [awc] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: awc Ever since i installed the spam plugin baysian, my connection awc center seems to hang up occasionally. I have to bring up task awc manager and terminate the Bat.. and restart it. I had this happen occasionally with the BayesIT plugin. When it occurred. I had to kill The Bat! just like you. Aside from that occasional problem, BayesIT worked fairly well. It never classified spam incorrectly, but would occasionally miss new spam until trained. Now that the spammers are adding new words to confuse Bayesian filters, the amount of spam to be trained is increasing. I found this inconvenient. To make a long story short, I went back to the SpamPal that I had used previously. I think that SpamPal's DNSBL lists filtering in conjunction with its Bayesian and URL Body plug-ins is more effective in intercepting almost everything. The net result is less work for me. I also don't have the hang up problem that I did experience with BayesIT. The downside is that you have to run another relay and the self contained nature of the BayesIT plug-in (easy to backup within the bat) is lost. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.02.3 CE under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/21VivZSrVDqOXK0RAk/kAKDJj3ycW7vBsY3264xQ60DL3ng4WQCeOuVf cIG79vIrpkUIzxcWNW7R2Eo= =F4Dd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam reporting
Hello Lynn, On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:08:11 -0800 GMT (13/12/2003, 23:08 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: That's what I was looking for! Glad it I could help. TF That's not necessary. Just buy me a beer. ;-) You got it .. the next time I'm in town! You are aware that by in town you mean Bangkok, right? Just checking... ;-) And in the meantime, my undying gratitude :-) Humbly accepted. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sic transit gloria mundi. (Latin for: Gloria threw up on the bus on Monday.) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam reporting
Saturday, December 13, 2003, 10:02:37 AM, you wrote: You got it .. the next time I'm in town! TF You are aware that by in town you mean Bangkok, right? Just TF checking... ;-) Any time I'm in town ;-) Lynn -- TheBat 1.62r Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam reporting
Hello Lynn, On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:16:37 -0800 GMT (13/12/2003, 23:16 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: I've never gotten any legitimate mail from China, South America or Spain, Are you sure? When I still lived in Taiwan, a user on this list filtered all messages with a .tw top level domain and never saw my postings. This list features members from the China and Spain, even though I am not sure about South America at the moment. but a high percentage of my spam mail actually originated in those places. I read that most spam actually originates in the US, they just use open relays in those countries. Aren't you thrilled that we now have anti-spam laws? It is estimated that 50% of all email traffic is spam by now. The anit-spam laws don't mean to be a convenience to the recipients, that's just a side-effect. The enourmous amount of spam is costing the ISPs a lot of money, they have to upgrade their bandwidth and all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. George Best (Englische Nationalmannschaft 1966): Ich habe viel von meinem Geld fuer Alkohol, Weiber und schnelle Autos ausgegeben. Den Rest habe ich einfach verprasst. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam reporting
Saturday, December 13, 2003, 10:12:38 AM, you wrote: I've never gotten any legitimate mail from China, South America or Spain, TF Are you sure? When I still lived in Taiwan, a user on this list TF filtered all messages with a .tw top level domain and never saw my TF postings. This list features members from the China and Spain, even TF though I am not sure about South America at the moment. Well, it's true it's not easy to be certain, but that's what whois returned on those ips ... it's all a little arcane, isn't it? I haven't any reason to thing that overseas listers have been trying to reach me with no luck - if they were, a post to the list in question would have found me, and I could have fixed it. but a high percentage of my spam mail actually originated in those places. TF I read that most spam actually originates in the US, they just use TF open relays in those countries. Given the kinds of mail, I would think a very high proportion of it does, but you know, here they claim the open relays are overseas :-) And I'm ever amazed when I talk to a new isp and his reaction on hearing that I'm using TB is that it's a spammer's mailer ... but a *huge* percentage of the spam I see, where ever it purports to originate, comes from Outlook, unless, of course, they're spoofing their mailer origin ... Aren't you thrilled that we now have anti-spam laws? TF It is estimated that 50% of all email traffic is spam by now. The TF anit-spam laws don't mean to be a convenience to the recipients, TF that's just a side-effect. The enourmous amount of spam is costing the TF ISPs a lot of money, they have to upgrade their bandwidth and all. I don't doubt it, I just doubt that the US government is going to be able to impose any realistic controls .. even if it is true that the greatest amount of spam originates in the US. And they certainly can't hope to control whatever *does* come from overseas ... DON'T get me started, really! lol! Lynn -- TheBat 1.62r Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Current Folder in Title Bar
Hello, I use Vertical Split Mode and so, the highlighted folder can be out of view (due to scrolling). I'd like to see the currently selected (viewed) folder to be named in the program Title Bar - right next to The Bat!. What do you think? -- Cheers, Ken Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! Christmas Discount
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, Saturday, December 13, 2003, 10:16:24 AM, you wrote: S I can understand where Peter is coming from, and I think he's got a S fair point actually. I would tend to agree with you Simon... - -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- Using SecureBat! v2.02.8 CE on Windows 98 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBP9t4XdrrL7k7yn3SEQLa5QCffjBtlMGKCdtPs9qGvjdQE8evXK8Anjaw 2HdNNctsqDqdRsN767d3umWK =wu2O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Christmas Discount
On Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 12:16:24 PM, Simon wrote in the message The Bat! Christmas Discount mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: But along comes Xmas and all of a sudden the discount is greater, and it is now obvious to his boss that it would have been wiser to hang on and get the upgrades for less. But unless his boss was psychic, he or she wouldn't have known this. If I am to follow this reasoning, I would never buy anything because the price COULD go down. There is an economics lesson in here somewhere... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Never hit a man with glasses. Hit him with a baseball bat. Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:The Bat! Christmas Discount
Hello Chris, Saturday, December 13, 2003, 11:32:27 PM, you wrote: On Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 12:16:24 PM, Simon wrote in the message The Bat! Christmas Discount mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: But along comes Xmas and all of a sudden the discount is greater, and it is now obvious to his boss that it would have been wiser to hang on and get the upgrades for less. But unless his boss was psychic, he or she wouldn't have known this. If I am to follow this reasoning, I would never buy anything because the price COULD go down. There is an economics lesson in here somewhere... Ever bought a TV or VCR or DVD player or the likes? I mean.. NOT just before christmas, rather in summer or so? And ever checked out the prices in Christmas sales for the same stuff? Better don't, you would get depressed. Let's not talk about prices for the Computer hardware today, that one bought half a year ago... -- Regards, Jurgen It's a woman's prerogative to change her mind. For men it's called lying. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE, Opera v7.23.3227 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! Christmas Discount
But along comes Xmas and all of a sudden the discount is greater, and it is now obvious to his boss that it would have been wiser to hang on and get the upgrades for less. C But unless his boss was psychic, he or she wouldn't have known this. C If I am to follow this reasoning, I would never buy anything because C the price COULD go down. I was thinking of it more along the lines of how life is always more like sitting at a Black Jack table, never knowing if the next card out of the shoe will be the 9 that gives you 21 or a ten that busts you. You have to just do what is right AT THE TIME and not look back too much. -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! Christmas Discount
Hello Simon, Saturday, December 13, 2003, 12:16:24 PM, you wrote: S On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:03:12 -0500 your time, you said: S It's been only a few months since many existing users upgraded to v2.x S at the discounted upgrade, many upgraded because there was a set time S period to upgrade in at the discounted price...so may upgraded S believing that the discount offer wouldn't get any better than it was. We bought v2 even though we had no intention of actually upgrading the machines until the little annoyances in v2 were worked out. The reason we bought is because we had a deadline before the price increase. So, we're still on 1.62r, with a pretty expensive v2 now that we're not using yet. (!) It almost sounds as if the corporate suits have taken over RitLabs or somebody's gotten greedy. It's not nice to treat your long-time customers suchly. -- Cheers, Maggiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Current Folder in Title Bar
Hello Ken, On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:21:36 -0800 GMT (14/12/2003, 03:21 +0700 GMT), Ken Stuart wrote: I use Vertical Split Mode and so, the highlighted folder can be out of view (due to scrolling). Same here. I'd like to see the currently selected (viewed) folder to be named in the program Title Bar - right next to The Bat!. If you open a folder view, this is what happens. If you stay in the main window, the title shouldn't change when you scroll. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Rechnen Sie mit robotron! Unsere Mikroelektronik ist einfach nicht klein zu kriegen! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Current Folder in Title Bar
Hello Thomas, Saturday, December 13, 2003, 7:11:08 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Ken, TF On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:21:36 -0800 GMT (14/12/2003, 03:21 +0700 GMT), TF Ken Stuart wrote: I use Vertical Split Mode and so, the highlighted folder can be out of view (due to scrolling). TF Same here. I'd like to see the currently selected (viewed) folder to be named in the program Title Bar - right next to The Bat!. TF If you open a folder view, this is what happens. If you stay in the TF main window, the title shouldn't change when you scroll. What do you mean by if you open a folder view? -- Cheers, Ken Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Current Folder in Title Bar
Hello Ken, On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:51:10 -0800 GMT (14/12/2003, 11:51 +0700 GMT), Ken Stuart wrote: I'd like to see the currently selected (viewed) folder to be named in the program Title Bar - right next to The Bat!. TF If you open a folder view, this is what happens. If you stay in the TF main window, the title shouldn't change when you scroll. What do you mean by if you open a folder view? Highlight a message in the message list. Hit enter. A folder view window opens. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It is wrong to ever split an infinitive. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Current Folder in Title Bar
On Sun 14 December 2003, 16:03:08 +1000, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF If you open a folder view, this is what happens. If you stay in the TF main window, the title shouldn't change when you scroll. What do you mean by if you open a folder view? Highlight a message in the message list. Hit enter. A folder view window opens. But Ken may not realise it is the message view unless he selects View/Message List (this does not seem to be the default). Otherwise he will only see the contents of the message he originally selected. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html