IMAP vs. Exchange
TheBat-users, I have been running against the Exchange server here at work with IMAP. I tried today using the Exchange protocol. It appears that TB! handles this protocol more like it handles POP than it handles IMAP. It does not synchronize older messages, only gets new and folders are POP-coloured and not IMAP-coloured. Is this correct? Could anybody explain the Exchange protocol for me (in layman's terms)? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.03 Beta/40 /thebat version os Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 /os Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP maintainance center
TheBat-users, After having used the maintenance centre on my IMAP (Exchange server) account, I suddenly get 10-20 versions of some mails, marked unread. I cannot delete the extra versions and kill duplicates does not work. I cannot even kill the parent message they are all shown underneath. How do I get rid of them? Also, since this action, I cannot get new mail. It arrives and sometimes it is even shown in the unread column (unbolded) but there are no new messages in the folder. The account log does not show that any new messages have arrived. Heeelp! -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.03 Beta/40 /thebat version os Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 /os Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello ken, Pretty cool. Is that using WindowBlinds or similar? Yes, a WindowBlinds skin called Lignite and with a slightly modified by me ( yellowish instead of grey unread envelope icon) glyphs_55.bmp from: http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=listarticlessecid=10 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello P.Johnson, Very nice, but where is my reply (as the P. Johnson in the screenshot...)? :-))) I guess I never did hit Send :-)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP maintainance center
On 22-01-2004 11:46, [P] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: P After having used the maintenance centre on my IMAP (Exchange P server) account, I suddenly get 10-20 versions of some mails, marked P unread. I cannot delete the extra versions and kill duplicates does P not work. I cannot even kill the parent message they are all shown P underneath. P How do I get rid of them? P Also, since this action, I cannot get new mail. It arrives and P sometimes it is even shown in the unread column (unbolded) but there P are no new messages in the folder. When I changed synchronisation mode, the problems disappeared. I set them to headers only and then back to full messages. Something is definitely buggy here... -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.03 Beta/40 /thebat version os Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4/os Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Ooh. I just got Outlook 2003 at work and found a new feature that I've always wanted but never verbalized since I didn't know just how useful it would be. It is the feature of flagging a message. Once a message is flagged, it pops up in a Follow Up folder so you can always go to that folder and follow up on the messages. Once the flag is cleared, it disappears from the Follow Up folder but remains in its native folder. Quite useful for tracking to-do's. Twould be a nice feature to incorporate into TB! Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Thursday, January 22, 2004, 1:42:24 PM, you wrote: It is the feature of flagging a message. Once a message is flagged, it pops up in a Follow Up folder so you can always go to that folder and follow up on the messages. Once the flag is cleared, it disappears from the Follow Up folder but remains in its native folder. Quite useful for tracking to-do's. Twould be a nice feature to incorporate into TB! indeed - I would find that very useful. I had hoped to be able to use the scheduler for that kind of do it later message, but have not yet found a way of doing it. Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello Peter, Quite useful for tracking to-do's. Twould be a nice feature to incorporate into TB! There are different ways to achieve that and much more in TB. If you take a look at http://www.rancho-k.com/Follow_Up.png it may give you an idea of what I do with filters, flags, colour groups and folder deletion options. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
On Thursday, January 22, 2004, Peter Chiou wrote... It is the feature of flagging a message. Once a message is flagged, it pops up in a Follow Up folder so you can always go to that folder and follow up on the messages. Once the flag is cleared, it disappears from the Follow Up folder but remains in its native folder. Quite useful for tracking to-do's. Twould be a nice feature to incorporate into TB! I was talking to Allie about Outlook 2003... I have to say it is much improved. There is even a unread mail folder which shows all your unread mail across folders, a bit like TB's ticker ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ummm, trouble with grammar have I? Yes! --Yoda pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello Jonathan, On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, at 09:25:37 [GMT -0600] (which was 15:25 in my TimeZone) you wrote: JA On Thursday, January 22, 2004, Peter Chiou wrote... It is the feature of flagging a message. Once a message is flagged, it pops up in a Follow Up folder so you can always go to that folder and follow up on the messages. Once the flag is cleared, it disappears from the Follow Up folder but remains in its native folder. Quite useful for tracking to-do's. Twould be a nice feature to incorporate into TB! JA I was talking to Allie about Outlook 2003... I have to say it is much JA improved. There is even a unread mail folder which shows all your JA unread mail across folders, a bit like TB's ticker ;) Still top posts though :( -- Best regards, Michael http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members. -- Groucho Marx pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
quoting and
Have anyone else noticed that The Bat will put an extra on a reply even if it finds one mid-sentence? I've never noticed this before, but I just replied to a message that contained the following line: (my guess is $1000). Note that this was not at the begginning or end of a line. When I replied, the quoted text contained: (my guess is $1000). -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello MAU, On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:48:34 +0100 GMT (22/01/2004, 06:48 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: http://www.rancho-k.com/MyBat1.png Beautiful, but you have a scary amount of unread messages. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Thursday at 5:00 PM there will be a meeting of the Ladies Little Mothers Club. All wishing to become little mothers, please see the minister in his study. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/40 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Documentation on Keyboard Shortcuts for Current Version
Hello Steve, On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:10:08 +1100 GMT (22/01/2004, 08:10 +0700 GMT), Steve Mullarkey wrote: Where can I find all keyboard shortcuts for the current 2.0 version of The Bat ? View / Edit shortcuts. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Atmen Sie bewusster: Jeweils zehn Minuten lang einatmen, Luft anhalten und ausatmen. Das ermuedet rasch. * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/40 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting and
Hello ken, On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:45:35 -0600 GMT (22/01/2004, 23:45 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: Have anyone else noticed that The Bat will put an extra on a reply even if it finds one mid-sentence? Options / Preferences / Editor Preferences / General / Quote name limit. Decrease the value. If TB finds a within the set number of characters, it will assume that everything before it is part of the quoted name. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. MEOW. . . SPLAT . . . RUFF . . . SPLAT . . . (Raining cats dogs) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/40 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
On Thursday, January 22, 2004 @ 7:25:37 AM [-0700], Jonathan Angliss wrote: I was talking to Allie about Outlook 2003... I have to say it is much improved. There is even a unread mail folder which shows all your unread mail across folders, a bit like TB's ticker ;) Hmm...I actually have 2003 installed here in the computer and did take a look at it. I haven't had a chance to mess with it too much, but it doesn't look bad. Have you played with it much Jonathan? And with that, he veers OT :) -- Matt Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello Thomas, Beautiful, but you have a scary amount of unread messages. ;-) Most (1600+) are basically on a very active newsgroup. But if you have noticed I have a Reps2me folder, guess what for ;-), with only 2 unread and a Watch one for the threads I interested in following in that newsgroup. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting and
Hello ken, When I replied, the quoted text contained: (my guess is $1000). Take a look at Options/Preferences/Viewer/Editor/Editor Preferences and see how many characters you have for Quote name limit. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
On Thursday, January 22, 2004, Matt Thoene wrote... I was talking to Allie about Outlook 2003... I have to say it is much improved. There is even a unread mail folder which shows all your unread mail across folders, a bit like TB's ticker ;) Hmm...I actually have 2003 installed here in the computer and did take a look at it. I haven't had a chance to mess with it too much, but it doesn't look bad. Have you played with it much Jonathan? And with that, he veers OT :) If it continues after this email, we should go onto TBOT. Yes, I use it for work, no choice... exchange server :) Supports minimizing to the system tray now too. There are a few little things that they put in that I've been after in it for a long time... it's not too bad, though I still use TB primarily. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not seeing attachments again
Nick Andriash wrote: I remember many Beta's ago that there was a similar problem of the attachment icon not showing until you selected the message in the Message List pane... This isn't the problem I'm experiencing. I can select the message all day long and no attachment is shown (even though it *is* confirmed as being there). If I use Dispatcher and download the message again, the new copy will show the attachment icon and provide normal access to it. Strangely enough, once this happens, the _FIRST_ message now shows the attachment icon too. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting and
Thomas Fernandez wrote: Options / Preferences / Editor Preferences / General / Quote name limit. Thank you! Note that for v1.62 it's Options Editor Prefs ... Decrease the value. If TB finds a within the set number of characters, it will assume that everything before it is part of the quoted name. Within the set number of characters... ?? From the beginning of the line? Why in the world would the default value be set at 20? I changed the value to 3 (but this is the first time I've touched that option). -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Beta/40: Store Window Position (~size) does not work
TheBat-users, After Ritlabs have added an IMO completely useless feature (View-Original Text) for viewing the original message when replying (I think this was added in beta 40, no?), TB will not remember the size of my new message window but default to some size (where I don't utilize enough of my nice 2000*1500 resolution). Confirmations? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.03 Beta/40 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta/40: Store Window Position (~size) does not work
On 22-01-2004 18:53, I [PF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PF After Ritlabs have added an IMO completely useless feature PF (View-Original Text) for viewing the original message when replying (I PF think this was added in beta 40, no?), TB will not remember the size of PF my new message window but default to some size (where I don't utilize PF enough of my nice 2000*1500 resolution). PF Confirmations? Issue gone in beta/45. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.03 Beta/45 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
How do you sort the message dates on a regular basis? Would you not have to manually initiate a filter everytime? :x Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Notebook Synchronizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL! I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.03 Beta/45 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAEDarvZSrVDqOXK0RAs37AJ9aSN6B6uBewQ1Wy9Um7jQZyniSOACgvwax dO+KkVl8qk/wA9jI2OOkfmQ= =0PuD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not seeing attachments again
ken green wrote: I had problems with The Bat not displaying Word attachments when there was a Word doc there. This is the first time it's happened with a PDF file. I just now had this happen with a JPEG. Same problem - message indicates an attachment *should* be there, check via webmail or other mail client and it's there. I know that TB is actually downloading the attachment - it shows up in the attachment directory and the message size reflects the attachment is there. But there is no icon in the left column, and no way to access the attached file through TB's interface. This problem was bad enough just not getting Word files. Now it's PDFs and JPEGs... Why is it getting WORSE?!?!? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
At 3:46 PM on 1/22/2004, Kevin Coates typed ... K I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I K normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability K to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer K IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? I choose one machine as master (my home desktop). When I retrieve mail there, I remove it from the server. When I retrieve mail using the notebook or from the office, I leave mail on the server until I dump it from the trash. This doesn't give me every message in every location, but it does give me what I want. It might work for you. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 1/22/2004 at 4:08 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Mihi ignosce. Cum homine de cane debeo congredi. (Excuse me. I've got to see a man about a dog.) This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
Kevin Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/22/2004 02:46 PM wrote: I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? I also have a laptop that I have been wanting to put on a home network with the pc and allow it to read and answer Bat mail. So, I would also appreciate input for strategies. FWIW, the pc has XP home and the laptop has XP pro. -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, ILUSA using TB ver. 1.61h (it works just fine for me, so why bother upgrading?) on Win XP (w/out SP1, which slowed me down to a crawl) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
MAU- You've got 65 messages in your Must Reply folder that are 60 days old! No wonder you never write... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello Peter, How do you sort the message dates on a regular basis? Would you not have to manually initiate a filter everytime? That is done in folder Properties. See: http://www.rancho-k.com/Folder_Del1.png http://www.rancho-k.com/Folder_Del2.png -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Documentation on Keyboard Shortcuts for Current Version
Where can I find all keyboard shortcuts for the current 2.0 version of The Bat ? TF View / Edit shortcuts. Thanks Thomas. I forgot to put the word 'Documentation' in my msg as well as in the Subject line. I can see that your suggestion allows me modify shortcuts but I was looking for documentation I can read through and search to show me what options are available. Most programs I use have this information in the Help file, but I can't find it in The Bat. The best I found is a text file from January 2000. Specifically I am looking for a keyboard shortcut to take me directly to the folder/account window. Using TAB and Shift/TAB sort of works but gets into an awful mess when HTML msgs are displayed. Regards, Steve Mullarkey Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
attachment problem
This problem of not being able to view/access attachments via The Bat continues to baffle me. I don't know how many others are having/have experienced similar problems, but this is growing beyond a minor annoyance to completely frustrating and slowing my productivity. I've heard a few suggestions for fixing this problem, but they are usually not related to The Bat. I would accept that I have corrupted something on my machine, or that I installed some program that created a conflict if it weren't ONLY THE BAT HAVING THIS PROBLEM. To me, even if I *did* cause the problem to start happening, the fact that it is not repeatable with any other mail client certainly doesn't make TB look too good. What is different about TB and the way it handles attachments that it would be the only mail client having issues with different attachment types (so far: Word doc, PDF and JPEG). Is this bizarre attachment problem being looked into? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
On Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 8:46:28 PM, you wrote: I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on it. I normally use my desktop machine, but would like to have the capability to read and answer my mail from either system. My ISP does not offer IMAP. Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the two? There's a system built in to do this although it's rather cumbersome. It's part of tools synchronise. Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Multiple email accounts - nightmare
Hi Can I be the only one with loads of email accounts for various clients? If someone would just explain to why the following is not possible then I'll stop going on about it. The Bat is the best client I've ever used and does everything I need except: If I want to change a setting universally (for all accounts) I have tolaboriously change it in each one individually. Now, there is a check box system when doing a backup - select which accounts toapply the backup to. Why can this not be done for accoutn settings - templates, servers, checking interval etc etc. Someone tell me it's impossible and I'll cease carping. Tell me it;s possible and then tell me what I need to do to persuade someone who knows what they're doing, to actually implement it. I don't mean to sound terse - but it is very frustrating. Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee and is strictly confidential. If you are not the addressee, please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and delete the message from your computer. The system used to send this message is permanently checking for viruses and malicious scripts. However, email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free and annerykiln.co.uk accepts no liability for changes made to this e-mail (and any attachments) after it was sent or for viruses arising as a result of this e-mail transmission. Any unauthorised reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When should bayesit start doing it's stuff? For the last few days I've received a number of near identical messages telling me that i need to update my system with the attached security fix. I know that the mail is junk and the the file is a virus. Each copy of the message that comes in I mark as junk. I thought that this process was supposed to 'teach' bayesit so that it would throw away the crap when it came in. Either I'm doing something wrong or, well, not. If I'm doing it right then why isn't bayesit catching this stuff? - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Karate is a form of martial arts in which people who have had years and years of training can, using only their hands and feet, make some of the worst movies in the history of the world. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQA/Ta9ttnLhkydF1EQIJvwCgnQdYjqrrCqUB+zQbjRHuN1JaTNsAoOcG L45zSVqr5I6EJzb+c4V27wRs =jhgE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M There are different ways to achieve that and much more in TB. If you take M a look at http://www.rancho-k.com/Follow_Up.png it may give you an idea M of what I do with filters, flags, colour groups and folder deletion M options. I don't suppose you'd consider knocking up a little 'how to' document would you? - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQA/ooNttnLhkydF1EQLEAgCgsKs9hjAVhKrx7crmHGJGYPuFcVoAoKiC C3HwYXSLB/dyE3Qulwqa9R3y =Jw31 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple email accounts - nightmare
Marten, On 23-01-2004 00:36, you [MG] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MG Someone tell me it's impossible and I'll cease carping. It's impossible at present. MG Tell me it;s possible and then tell me what I need to do to persuade MG someone who knows what they're doing, to actually implement it. I agree it would be a nice feature. Please add it to the bugtracker under TheBat! Wishes, post the url to the request and I will support you in it (as will, no doubt, many more). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.03 Beta/45 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello Mark, You've got 65 messages in your Must Reply folder that are 60 days old! Well, you can't just trust the names of my folders :) In this case it doesn't necessarily mean they have not been replied. I keep most of them here to remind me about some long standing open issues. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello Stuart, I don't suppose you'd consider knocking up a little 'how to' document would you? Have you seen mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on this same thread? Does that give you a hint? Anyway, I once wrote about how I manage my Must Reply folder and some others. I'll try to find it and give you a hint. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello Stuart, I don't suppose you'd consider knocking up a little 'how to' document would you? In my previous reply I said: Anyway, I once wrote about how I manage my Must Reply folder and some others. I'll try to find it and give you a hint. Well, you may want to go to the list archives and look for these two messages: ,- [ ] | Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 02:22:15 +0200 | From: Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: My filters, colour groups and ticker setup (Re: ticker info?) `- ,- [ ] | Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:17:41 +0200 | From: Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: Displaying new status in account tree pane and folder summary | pane `- These should give you a fairly good idea of my setup. Feel free to ask questions about it but, if you do, please do so on list. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! versus others
On Sun 18 January 2004, 1:00:56 +1000, Allie Martin wrote: Mau, [M] wrote: M Yes, it looks nice. Which set is it so I don't have to scroll them M all? That would be glyphs #55. And now that I am trying out WindowBlinds, what was the skin you are using? -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit
Hello Stuart, Thursday, January 22, 2004, 7:42:55 AM, you wrote: sec When should bayesit start doing it's stuff? sec For the last few days I've received a number of near identical sec messages telling me that i need to update my system with the sec attached security fix. sec I know that the mail is junk and the the file is a virus. sec Each copy of the message that comes in I mark as junk. I thought sec that this process was supposed to 'teach' bayesit so that it sec would throw away the crap when it came in. sec Either I'm doing something wrong or, well, not. If I'm doing it sec right then why isn't bayesit catching this stuff? I have been using Bayesit for some time now and it had been working just fine. In the last little while it has quit working altogether. I don't know if it is just here, but I think it may be since Beta 40. As far as training goes, it doesn't take that many when it is working correctly. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hello MAU, Thursday, January 22, 2004, 6:22:43 PM, MAU wrote: M Feel free to ask questions about it but, if you do, please do so on M list. ,- [ http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg39937.html ] | I manage 20 accounts, 299 folders, some 20 mail lists, at least 10 | colour groups, and only in my main account (the most active one) 17 | Incoming filters, 10 outgoing, 11 read and 9 replied. And like many of | you, only on this main account, I receive 100s of messages and send | quite a bit. `- ,- [ http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg49459.html ] | So, the idea is that if I have any important messages Unread, they | will be either in MyInbox or Inbox-Unknown folders. `- Are these common folders? -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
uninstalling The Bat!
Anyone know what to do next when Add/Remove Programs fails? I want to wipe my laptop clean, install 1.62, upgrade to CE, then install the latest beta. When I try to uninstall TB through Windows Add/Remove I get a popup window: AbacusBat! - Uninstall This will remove AbacausBat! Continue? When I click Yes, I get the following: AbacusBat! - Uninstall Error cleaning up AbacusBat! program directory. Uninstall aborted Anyone know what to do next? (besides dump TB and go with Becky...) -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Notebook Synchronizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bill, On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:11:58 -0500 (4:11 PM here), Bill Blinn Technology Editor [BBTE] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: BBTE At 3:46 PM on 1/22/2004, Kevin Coates typed ... K I just purchased a laptop and would like to install The Bat! on K it. . Can anyone provide some strategies for synchronizing the K two? BBTE I choose one machine as master (my home desktop). When I BBTE retrieve mail there, I remove it from the server. When I BBTE retrieve mail using the notebook or from the office, I leave BBTE mail on the server until I dump it from the trash Thanks for sharing your solution. I will try that and also take a look at the built in synchronizing feature that Marten mentioned. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.03 Beta/45 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAEKCLvZSrVDqOXK0RAph9AJ9gwTxFyFxaWp3gHJ4O3O8xs4F7zQCggg5a B50tGWq5WfCgxPyaQv+dgPI= =WQnE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: uninstalling The Bat!
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 22:15, ken green wrote: Anyone know what to do next when Add/Remove Programs fails? [..] AbacusBat! - Uninstall Error cleaning up AbacusBat! program directory. Uninstall aborted Anyone know what to do next? (besides dump TB and go with Becky...) You'll probably find there is a safety net in the uninstall that says not to delete the folder if there is non-installed items in it. This means that your mail accounts, mail data, personal options etc are safe and protected by the install script. If you go to where you installed TheBat, you should see a few folders left over, and a couple of files. If you don't need them, remove them. However, for the upgrade path, you really didn't need to uninstall the previous version. It is quite safe to just install the 2.x series over the top of the 1.x series, though you should note you'll need a new registration key if you haven't already got one. All the appropriate files are upgraded by TB when it runs that way. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: uninstalling The Bat!
Jonathan Angliss wrote: You'll probably find there is a safety net in the uninstall that says not to delete the folder if there is non-installed items in it. This means that your mail accounts, mail data, personal options etc are safe and protected by the install script. If you go to where you installed TheBat, you should see a few folders left over, and a couple of files. If you don't need them, remove them. If that is the case, the error messages I received didn't even hint at that explanation. No message about protecting anything. Just what I posted. Why something as simple and basic as an uninstall has to be so esoteric and cryptic is just bad usability. Come on... You reply indicates that an uninstall was started ( you should see a few folders left over, and a couple of files) but nothing began. I never got past those error boxes. Unfortunately, I cannot test this because I am in the process of a complete manual delete of all things Bat. I deleted all program files and mail files (made a zip backup first), then proceeded to go through the registry and look for bat entries to delete. I'm still working on that Do you know how many registry entries have bat in them? Adobe Acrobat alone consists of about 50-60 entries, not to mention .bat files, etc. I tried searching on RitLabs first but that turned up one entry. God, do I have a headache! However, for the upgrade path, you really didn't need to uninstall the previous version. It is quite safe to just install the 2.x series over the top of the 1.x series, though you should note you'll need a new registration key if you haven't already got one. All the appropriate files are upgraded by TB when it runs that way. What about installing 2.x over 2.x? This was my laptop, which I had running first CE, then beta 40. Part of the reason I wanted a clean install was because of the corrupt folder problems I was having (messages not displaying). I know it's a longshot, but I thought a clean install might be nice.. :( I was also wondering (and would appreciate any advice) the best way to restore accounts without going through the IMAP convert to POP during the 1.62 upgrade to 2.x - and whether that's worth the hassle. I thought I might create fresh new IMAP accounts, then copy and paste the message base. Can I do that? Will that invite more problems that trying to do a Restore? Also, I could conceivably do a restore on my laptop to 1.62r and convert all accounts to POP, then upgrade. At that point, create my IMAP accounts and just copy messages from the POP folder equivalents... am i going insane...? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: uninstalling The Bat!
On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 12:04:15 AM, ken green wrote in the message uninstalling The Bat! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do you know how many registry entries have bat in them? Adobe Acrobat alone consists of about 50-60 entries, not to mention .bat files, etc. I tried searching on RitLabs first but that turned up one entry. The Bat! creates one registry entry per user: HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat! The Bat! may be registered elsewhere too. For example, as the default mailer. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. When it rains, why don't sheep shrink? Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: not seeing attachments again
Wednesday, January 21, 2004, 11:42:35 AM, you wrote: I had problems with The Bat not displaying Word attachments when there TF I can't confirm. I receive MS Office and PDF files as attachments all TF the time, through all TB versions, and have never experienced a TF missing attachment. RO Me neither. I have, unfortunately. Intermittently. But often. Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Using Linux
GC Will The Bat! run [under Linux] VN Not directly, but maybe under Wine. M3 I have gotten it to run under Wine with Mandrake 9.1. But I did M3 not do extensive testing. Are any of youse guys using TB! under Linux (via WINE)? How well *does* it work? Thx R -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not seeing attachments again
Vishal Nakra wrote: I have, unfortunately. Intermittently. But often. Ahh... I am sorry that you are also experiencing this problem. But at least it's evidence that I'm not insane (and I need evidence sometimes... ;) -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: uninstalling The Bat!
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 23:04, ken green wrote: You'll probably find there is a safety net in the uninstall that says not to delete the folder if there is non-installed items in it. This means that your mail accounts, mail data, personal options etc are safe and protected by the install script. If you go to where you installed TheBat, you should see a few folders left over, and a couple of files. If you don't need them, remove them. If that is the case, the error messages I received didn't even hint at that explanation. No message about protecting anything. Just what I posted. Why something as simple and basic as an uninstall has to be so esoteric and cryptic is just bad usability. Come on... That is certainly odd. I'm sure I'd seen that before and it was the result of the uninstaller protecting the files, but it was a long time ago. Do you know how many registry entries have bat in them? Adobe Acrobat alone consists of about 50-60 entries, not to mention .bat files, etc. I tried searching on RitLabs first but that turned up one entry. The only ones you should worry about is the branch: \HKLM\Software\RIT Or it might be \HKCM\Software\RIT The rest of the registry keys that TB might alter can usually be reset by opening Outlook. God, do I have a headache! Know the feeling ;) What about installing 2.x over 2.x? Should be just fine. I upgrade through the beta cycles just fine. This was my laptop, which I had running first CE, then beta 40. Part of the reason I wanted a clean install was because of the corrupt folder problems I was having (messages not displaying). I know it's a longshot, but I thought a clean install might be nice.. :( I originally had an issue with an imap setting on one of my accounts that I couldn't get unstuck, and ended up reinstalling... so sometimes it is worth it. I thought I might create fresh new IMAP accounts, then copy and paste the message base. Can I do that? Will that invite more problems that trying to do a Restore? Not entirely sure. It seems the IMAP files are created with random names, so you might have to do some playing to get this to work. Also, I could conceivably do a restore on my laptop to 1.62r and convert all accounts to POP, then upgrade. At that point, create my IMAP accounts and just copy messages from the POP folder equivalents... am i going insane...? No, just a little batty ;) IMAP is a server side storage. Which means you shouldn't have to copy anything from your local computer into an IMAP account. Providing the messages have been left on the server by the old IMAP implementation, it should just refetch them correctly. Unless I'm miss-understanding what you're attempting to do. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
