Re[3]: Attaching files to The Bat - filename not fully shown?
Hello Bill, Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 5:20:42 AM, you wrote: BBTE Hide extensions for known file types. BBTE The icons will differ, of course. Not necessarily - which makes it worse. I wonder could/would a virus re-map the icons to its evil cause? BBTE It's probably a bad idea to send someone a file with a double BBTE extension, anyway, because double extensions are considered by BBTE many antivirus programs to be hostile. Interesting. I thought it was a good practice for things like zip files for example. i.e. mybook.doc.zip tells the true story at a glance. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sort/Scroll to the last received message(s)
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 7:30:54 PM, Wayne Howard wrote: WH You're still not getting it. I'm looking to have my inbox (and WH other folders) open to the new, previously unseen messages, WH starting with the oldest of these - while keeping the remaining WH messages in view. I'm not trying to purge or compress anything. WH This is normal behavior for every other mail reader I've seen. I like TB's behaviour better myself. As Allie pointed out, it's very nice to be able to leave a folder return to it not have to find the message you were looking at before. I *much* prefer this to the way any of the other email clients I've used handles leaving/returning to a folder. I see you've found a resolution for your problem later in the thread - apparently the issue wasn't TB's behaviour but rather its option to purge compress folders. I like being able to do that too (though I don't do it on exit). -- Deborah A child educated only at school is an uneducated child. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello Leif, Thursday, February 5, 2004, 7:50:46 AM, you wrote: C It seems as if The Bat! searches for cutlines from the bottom and C not the top. LG That is correct, and as Marck alluded to earlier in this thread, the LG reason we do not include the cut line in the list footer. If we did, LG then the poster's cut line wouldn't cut. Hence the reason we ask LG people to include a cut line in their posts. Well, we all love a bit of circular logic! If you insist on it, insist on it - there's reason enough without the above. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Add to Address Book
Hello MAU, Friday, February 6, 2004, 8:14:03 AM, you wrote: M No, you are not clueless. TB is a great program but what you have M described is one of its most stupid limitations. I have used TB for over M 2-3 years and the limitation has always been there. And you are not the M first (or second, or third, or... ) to complain about it. I thought this was simply a 'feature' of Windows? i.e. the fact that there is only one active window ever by default. I see an awful lot of apps that you have to click on first before actually doing any meaningful clicks. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Add to Address Book
Hello Terry, Friday, February 6, 2004, 9:49:28 AM, you wrote: T I just wonder why some windows lock the program and others don't. See my other post, but if you're into programming you'll come across the concept of a 'modal' dialog. Such a dialog is *designed* to elicit a response from the user to exclusion of all else in the application. It appears this concept is heavily misused - probably because it makes the programmer's life easier without users trying to click on things that would upset the dialog. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Disembodied trash
Hi tbudl'ers, I seem to now have a trash can outside of all my account folder trees. I am not sure when it appeared, but I don't recall it always being there. Is this a cross between a common folder and the trash? I checked every account and they all have their own trash folders. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disembodied trash
Hi Allister, I seem to now have a trash can outside of all my account folder trees. I am not sure when it appeared, but I don't recall it always being there. Is this a cross between a common folder and the trash? I've got one as well. I believe that it appeared when I added some common folders. In fact, I think I deleted it once and it reappeared. It's been a while, so my recollection is a bit fuzzy on that one. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Account Logs - An FYI
Hi all, A weird thing happened on my machine. I discovered it when I needed to check the log on an account. If I Ctrl+Shift+A on each account to view the account logs, three of the accounts only displayed the logs up to a certain day, 1/24/04 at 8:59 in the morning. The other accounts are fine. I checked the actual log files. For two of the accounts, all the data was there but not being displayed. For one of the accounts, no new data was added to the log file since 1/24. One of the logs looked like it had some corrupt entries on 1/24, but it wasn't the one with no data after 1/24. The other two didn't have any obvious evidence of corruption. I also checked file permissions and whether the files had somehow become read-only. Everything was fine. I was not alerted to the problem until I needed the log file, naturally. :) I do look at the log panel in the main window often, but all that data was up to date, even for the account that was missing data. I deleted all log files and now they all seem to be working correctly. I'll definitely be checking the logs more often to make sure that the files haven't become corrupted. I just wanted to post a note here as to what a fix was in case someone else runs into the problem. Most likely, I experienced some kind of event on 1/24 that caused some file corruption. I have had a couple of BSOD incidences due to a driver issue which I have since corrected. It doesn't seem to me to be a TB! problem per se. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Add to Address Book
Hi Allister, See my other post, but if you're into programming you'll come across the concept of a 'modal' dialog. Such a dialog is *designed* to elicit a response from the user to exclusion of all else in the application. It appears this concept is heavily misused - probably because it makes the programmer's life easier without users trying to click on things that would upset the dialog. Thanks for the explanation. :) I appreciate it. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disembodied trash
Terry, [T] wrote: T I've got one as well. I believe that it appeared when I added some T common folders. In fact, I think I deleted it once and it T reappeared. It's been a while, so my recollection is a bit fuzzy on T that one. Yes. It's the common trash folder and will appear if you've started using common folders and then delete messages from any of the common folders to trash. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 RC/1 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disembodied trash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AJ I seem to now have a trash can outside of all my account folder trees. It's for your common folders. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Error: Government.SYS corrupted... Re-boot Parliament? (Y/Y). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCtj8tttnLhkydF1EQI56ACg+31favxgn/JBJg5ee6taOsHF9q4AoJ2K G7UJMu40GlUkp7MxeFth/bnu =BBtB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Possible bug: selective download filters
Hi all, I have a selective download filter set to Ignore certain messages. I assumed that meant that the messages would stay on the server until I used the dispatcher to delete them. This isn't what is happening. Here's what does seems to be happening (I'm using a test account and sending messages to that account, so no other mail is interfering.): The messages are being filtered correctly. The log indicates the presence of a message in the mailbox. 2/12/2004, 11:36:12: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new 2/12/2004, 11:36:12: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received On the next check, the log indicates that the message is still there. 2/12/2004, 11:39:12: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new On the third check, the message is gone! 2/12/2004, 11:42:11: FETCH - 0 messages in the mailbox, 0 new I've used the mail dispatcher to look at the e-mail in various stages without automatic checking. On first check, the e-mail is there with only the read flag checked. On the second dispatcher check, the read and *delete* flags are checked. *I wouldn't expect that the delete flag would be checked.* By the third dispatcher check, of course, the e-mail's been deleted because the flag was checked. My settings on the account are to Delete received messages from server. Since these aren't received messages, I wouldn't expect them to be deleted, whether through automatic checking or through the use of the dispatcher. I could, of course, use the Keep messages on server option. The messages aren't removed, but then no messages are removed. That defeats the purpose, IMHO, since the account I want to use the filter on gets a large amount of e-mail daily and I don't want to wade through all of the e-mail to find the ones that are ignored. I've read the help files, but there's not much guidance there. Is this behavior some kind of bug, or is this by design? I've also noticed that the results from the Selective Download filters (whether set to kill or ignore) don't appear in the log. Is this normal? -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sort/Scroll to the last received message(s)
Hello Deborah, On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 4:03:36 AM, you wrote re: Sort/Scroll to the last received message(s): DW I like TB's behaviour better myself. As Allie pointed out, it's very DW nice to be able to leave a folder return to it not have to find DW the message you were looking at before. I *much* prefer this to the DW way any of the other email clients I've used handles leaving/returning DW to a folder. DW I see you've found a resolution for your problem later in the DW thread - apparently the issue wasn't TB's behaviour but rather its DW option to purge compress folders. I like being able to do that DW too (though I don't do it on exit). It's working pretty well for me now, too! I had no idea that the pointer was being deleted. I'm not sure when or how the Compress on Exit feature got turned on (unless it is on by default). However, as I mentioned to Allie, I'm not sure why that would change the last read mail pointer. I have used many other databases where this is not the case. I can think back to the BBS days where all of my databases (on Wildcat!) were compressed once a week as an automated event. If all of my users lost their last read pointers, they would have been very upset. (Looking back on it - another mail product with an exclamation point in its name!) :) By the way, looking back at my last several posts, one might think my responses to you were antagonistic. I hope you did not take it that way. That certainly was not my intent. I simply was trying to find a solution - perhaps I was getting a bit frustrated trying to help others understand what I was looking to do. This is not exactly what I was looking for, but it now works pretty well for me. I don't need to compress all the time - that's for sure. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.03 RC/1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add to Address Book
Hello Allister, I thought this was simply a 'feature' of Windows? i.e. the fact that there is only one active window ever by default. I see an awful lot of apps that you have to click on first before actually doing any meaningful clicks. As you have mentioned in another message, there are modal and non-modal dialogs. It is up to the application developer to use one or de other depending on the circumstances. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello Allister, Sunday, February 8, 2004, 6:46:36 PM, you wrote: AJ Well, we all love a bit of circular logic! If you insist on it, AJ insist on it - there's reason enough without the above. Nope, nothing circular about it. I purposely added another cutline below my signature to simulate what would happen if we included it in the list footer. When you reply, you'll have to remove my sig manually. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB -- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
On Thursday, February 12, 2004 , Leif Gregory wrote: AJ -- AJ Cheers, AJ Allister LG Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists LG of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. LG This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without LG the signature and list footers since everything below and including LG the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. Hello all, Well, there *was* a cut mark, was there? That reminds me of the little problem I have with The Bat!, so I'm posting this reply here. Not sure about it, just wondering if it's me or TB. When entering a template's contents, TB seems to 'eat' the trailing space after the two dashes. The same seems to happen in the message editor. This seems to lead to bugs, like TB not properly removing signatures etc. Regards, -- Onno Broekmans |Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Website:http://www.onnodb.com Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: \ before parenthesis on reply in TO address?
Hello Greg, on Tuesday, February 10, 2004, 2:25:47 PM, Greg Strong wrote: Why does TB add a backward slash \ before either a left parenthesis ( or right ) parenthesis in the TO address? LastName, FirstName \(Other Info\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, actually the backslash is used to define the character afterwards that it is used as a character and not as a function. I am not sure if the bracktes have a function in a mail address. But I guess it is made to be on the safe side with all mail-servers. -- Best regards, Martin Using The Bat 2.03 RC/1 on Windows XP Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Onno, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 9:08:18 AM, you wrote: OB Well, there *was* a cut mark, was there? That reminds me of the OB little problem I have with The Bat!, so I'm posting this reply OB here. Not sure about it, just wondering if it's me or TB. OB Regards, Please note, the below is not my real signature. I tested this with a template to show it does work. -- Onno Broekmans |Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Website:http://www.onnodb.com Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Onno, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 9:08:18 AM, you wrote: OB When entering a template's contents, TB seems to 'eat' the OB trailing space after the two dashes. The same seems to happen in OB the message editor. This seems to lead to bugs, like TB not OB properly removing signatures etc. Hmmm. I haven't noticed that being a problem here. My Template for this list is as follows: Hello %TOFName, %Cursor Tagline of the day: %COOKIE=L:\Program Files\The Bat!\templates\Tags.txt -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! %THEBATVERSION under %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB %FROM= %FROM=Leif Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] %REPLYTO= %REPLYTO=Leif Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] %IF:%TOLIST%CCLIST%BCCLIST=:%TO='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Just for the heck of it, I'm going to reply to your post a second time and use your signature to show it works fine. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
On Thursday, February 12, 2004 , Leif Gregory wrote: OB When entering a template's contents, TB seems to 'eat' the OB trailing space after the two dashes. The same seems to happen in OB the message editor. This seems to lead to bugs, like TB not OB properly removing signatures etc. LG Hmmm. I haven't noticed that being a problem here. My Template for LG this list is as follows: Hi Leif, Well, perhaps I'm just talking gibberish... Never mind then :) Regards, -- Onno Broekmans |Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Website:http://www.onnodb.com Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachment icon
Hello rich, On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:43:50 -0500 GMT (12/02/2004, 12:43 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: I'll press the down arrow to go thru and preview the new mssgs then, when I get to the mssg w/ the attachment icon, it disappears, even though the message does indeed have an attachent and I can open it from the icon in the preview pane. Can anyone please tell me if this sounds familiar? No, it doesn't sound familiar. Which TB version are you using? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Love will find you, even if you are trying to hide from it. I've been trying to hide from it since I was five, but the girls keep finding me. (Bobby, 8) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 RC/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Onno, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 10:10:02 AM, you wrote: OB Well, perhaps I'm just talking gibberish... Never mind then :) OB Regards, OB -- OB Onno Broekmans OB |Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OB |Website:http://www.onnodb.com OB Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 OB Service Pack 1 I don't know about that, as your cutline is obviously not working. If you do that dashdashSpaceEnter correctly, the cutline will work as advertised. Try doing it manually. Reply to this, delete your sig, and type: -- From Onno It should work fine provided you do a -- enter. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Passworrd Change
dh Hello bats, dh on Mon, 9. Feb 2004 at 08:45:35 -0800 Lynn wrote: L I found the file, but no way really to tell what is the L password, unless it's the encrypted string which follows L the server configs .. ? And if I recklessly deleted those L strings, do you know what would happen? dAniel hAhler wrote: dh Dunno.. but someone posted sth to the lists about a program called dh DeBat, coded by HOG which can recover the account's password, IIRC. dh HTH to find it on google. Lynn, Did you have any luck finding this program? I searched the TBUD archives using DeBat as the argument and came up with a list of messages that contained ...de/bat ... .de being part of a domain name. No luck on a standalone program named DeBat though. Searched using Google ... came up with a bunch of debate web sites, poster sites, and multiple Danish web sites which I was not able to interpret. Oh well ... If you did have any luck finding the program, I would appreciate you letting me know where. Thanks in advance. -- Dirigo Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Passworrd Change
Hello Dirigo, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 10:55:14 AM, you wrote: D Did you have any luck finding this program? I searched the TBUD D archives using DeBat as the argument and came up with a list of D messages that contained ...de/bat ... .de being part of a domain D name. No luck on a standalone program named DeBat though. It was a post of mine dated 18 Dec 2003 on TBBETA with the subject of Password Vulnerability. Here's the URL you're looking for. http://www.password-crackers.com/crack3.html#thebat -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Passworrd Change
LG Thursday, February 12, 2004, 10:55:14 AM, Lief (if I may) wrote: LG It was a post of mine dated 18 Dec 2003 on TBBETA with the LG subject of Password Vulnerability. LG Here's the URL you're looking for. LG http://www.password-crackers.com/crack3.html#thebat Thanks Lief. Dummy me ... I didn't think to do a search in TBBETA archive. Hhhh, maybe I'll join that list too! Well, thanks again. -- Dirigo Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
disk space, was: Re[2]: Sort/Scroll to the last received message(s)
Hi, Deborah W wrote: using up huge amounts of system resources in Eudora...) which I'm very glad I don't see in TB. I did... before I found out about the maintenance feature I had loads of MBs occupied by TB! without even knowing it was TB!... after the first clean-up (purge old messages, remove deleted messages) I think I had appr. 100 MB of disk space recovered. Now I do the maintenance thing every once in a while, but I'm still wondering why exactly I need to do that. Does that have to do with making deleted data reversible, maybe? -- Antje Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
On Thursday, February 12, 2004 , Leif Gregory wrote: LG Try doing it manually. Reply to this, delete your sig, and type: LG -- LG From Onno LG It should work fine provided you do a -- enter. Hi Leif, Well, hereby a message with a cutmark-test to see if it works when doing it manually from the message editor. If it does, then perhaps I should try to fix my template... Btw, any idea if setting a template for a parent folder also sets that template for the folders in it? Or if there's a quick way to apply one template to multiple folders simultaneously? -- Regards, Onno Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: \ before parenthesis on reply in TO address?
Hello Martin, Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 10:59:31 PM, Martin Schneider wrote: Why does TB add a backward slash \ before either a left parenthesis ( or right ) parenthesis in the TO address? LastName, FirstName \(Other Info\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] MS Well, actually the backslash is used to define the character MS afterwards that it is used as a character and not as a function. Yes I know this from other programs that I've used, however I do find it strange that the backslash has to be added when between quotes. This is why I asked the question. MS I am not sure if the bracktes have a function in a mail address. But MS I guess it is made to be on the safe side with all mail-servers. I guess so. Thanks! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.03 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates for multiple folders (was: Re: Mod: Cut mark)
Hi Onno, on Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:19:37 +0100GMT, you wrote: OB Well, hereby a message with a cutmark-test to see if it works when OB doing it manually from the message editor. If it does, then perhaps I OB should try to fix my template... It works ok now. :-) OB Btw, any idea if setting a template for a parent folder also sets OB that template for the folders in it? Or if there's a quick way to OB apply one template to multiple folders simultaneously? The easiest way I have found as yet is to use a Quick Template. Once created, I can use it with %QINCLUDE in any folder. I still have to paste the macro to each folder manually, but this is a minor one time hassle in my view... *S* -- Cheers Peter Life is a yo-yo, and mankind ties knots in the string. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Contact icon colors
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 8:42:07 AM, I received a message, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], in which you wrote: (Text not relevant to my reply may have been snipped.) Dear Stan, @11-Feb-2004, 08:37 -0600 (11-Feb 14:37 UK time) Stan Robins [SR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SR I hate to bother the list for a seemingly trivial question, but SR what do the colors of the icons for address book icons SR represent? To put it bluntly - Sex! Blue - Boy Pink - Girl (well, red really( Grey - Unspecified Very interesting. I didn't detect the pattern. I thought maybe there was something urgent about those red contacts that I was missing. 8^) -- Stan Robins Mendota Heights, MN Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat, 2.02.3 CE www.ritlabs.com * You're getting old when you don't care where your spouse goes, just as long as you don't have to go along. * Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office/Filters
Hi, Peter Zhigulin wrote: Good day, sirs. Even though I'm not a sir I'll try anyway ;-)) I have some questions about Sorting Office. I clearly understand Incoming, Putgoing and Selective Download filter when they are applied and for what reasons. But there are two options that confuse me a bit. It has an option to set up read mail filter. When The Bat applies it? Will be it applied when I manualy mark message as read I just tried it and it seems TB does that as soon as an e-mail that corresponds the filter settings is marked read (when I tried it it worked only when is was marked automatically). or - yes I have such cases - it should be deleted at ince as soon as I have noticed them? Well, you can set up a filter to process certain incoming mails to go directly to the trash folder, or even to be deleted right away, but in that case you should be pretty sure you don't want to take a quick look at them before they are gone. Look through the filter action tab in the sorting office to learn which options are available (gosh, I've written to many user documentations lately... I already sound like one myself :-) ). It has an option to set up replied mail filter. When The Bat applies it? As soon as hit reply button|kb shortcut, or message must be sent away As soon as the reply is sent, because only then will the original message be marked replied. Does they - filter - will be applied for the replies themself? They shouldn't be as the option is called replied mail, i.e. mail that you have replied to. And th questions. For now I'm using Incoming and Outgoing filters, and Selective download a bit (he-hem I have about 15 thousands mail-error reports). Dude, is someone using your address for spammning? :-) Is there any way to avoid duplicates. i.e. There're a lot of messges [...] After that I have four messages in `hostmaster` folder - number 1 - outgoing copy - number 2 - outgoing copy - number 1 - incoming copy - number 2 - incoming copy I don't get this exactly *confused*, but I think what you need to do is to run kill duplicates in the folder menu. Even though it's probably kind of annoying to do that all the time. I don't know that there is an automated feature for this, but I could be wrong here. How could I avoid this situation and have only - number 1 - outgoing copy - number 2 - outgoing copy or - number 1 - outgoing copy - number 2 - incoming copy And, of course, I need all incoming mail not writen by me and directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] processed by Incoming filter and moved to `hostmaster` folder Any ideas? You mean without having your own messages moved to that folder, too? Try to set up a filter for all messages sent to that address, moving them to the desired folder, and then create a new filter to sort out the messages written by yourself and putting them somewhere else. Make this filter the first in your list and activate continue with other filters (sorry, I don't have the English version of TB, hope my translation is close to the original wording) in the filter's options tab. Should work! Antje Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Onno, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 11:19:37 AM, you wrote: OB Well, hereby a message with a cutmark-test to see if it works when OB doing it manually from the message editor. If it does, then OB perhaps I should try to fix my template... Btw, any idea if OB setting a template for a parent folder also sets that template for OB the folders in it? Or if there's a quick way to apply one template OB to multiple folders simultaneously? It worked fine. See, you just had to believe in me! grin What I did was create a text file that is actually my sig, then used the %PUT macro. i.e. %PUT=L:\Program Files\The Bat!\templates\TBsig.txt You can create as many different sig text files as you want, and then you only have to modify them once to affect any number of folders. BTW, my .txt file for each sig is where the -- cutline is... i.e. The contents of my TBsig.txt file is as follows. *** -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! %THEBATVERSION under %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB *** -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
On Thursday, February 12, 2004 , Leif Gregory wrote: LG What I did was create a text file that is actually my sig, then LG used the %PUT macro. i.e. LG %PUT=L:\Program Files\The Bat!\templates\TBsig.txt Hi Leif, Now *that*'s a terrific idea! Will do that shortly... It does not only properly solve the cut mark problem, but also makes life a bit easier ;-) Thanks a lot! Regards, -- Onno Broekmans |Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Website:http://www.onnodb.com Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Onno, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 1:37:52 PM, you wrote: OB Now *that*'s a terrific idea! Will do that shortly... It does not OB only properly solve the cut mark problem, but also makes life a OB bit easier ;-) Thanks a lot! Great! Looking forward to seeing proper cutlines from you soon! ;-) Glad to help. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
strange encodings
Hello all, I have had something strange happen twice now, so I thought I would ask and see if anyone has any ideas. I am subscribed to a mail list much like this one. Twice now when I have replied to emails from the list (going back to the list), the messages ended up being in base-64 plain text instead of 8-bit plain text. It happened the first time many months ago when I was using an older version (ver 1.46 IIRC) and then again just yesterday. I sent out three replies to the list and only the middle one had the problem. So I am guessing it has something to do with the original message. But I did not get any indication that the message I was replying to was anything other than plain text. Can anyone offer some insight into 1.) why this happens, 2.) how I can prevent it ... or at least detect when it is happening. -- Best regards, MikeD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB!'s Icon
TB!'s desktop icon choices seem to be embedded in the executable. Is there a place to find the bitmaps themselves, so I can use it in my IBM Word Pro word processing app to launch TB!? -- JN Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!'s Icon
Hello List! Hi Joseph N., on 12.02.2004 at 22:58 [GMT -0600] you wrote: TB!'s desktop icon choices seem to be embedded in the executable. Is there a place to find the bitmaps themselves, [...] Use Icon Extractor to extract the icon from the executable and save as bitmap. (Freeware) hp : http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jaesenj/software/software.html dl : http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jaesenj/downloads/jsie.exe scr: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jaesenj/software/screenshots/JSIconEx.gif -- Regards, Stefan TheBat! v2.04 RC/2 with Windows 2000 v5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: disk space, was: Re[2]: Sort/Scroll to the last received message(s)
Antje Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 12-Feb-2004 1:25:55 PM disk space, was: Re[2]: Sort/Scroll to the last received message(s) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] before I found out about the maintenance feature I had loads of MBs occupied by TB! without even knowing it was TB!... after the first clean-up (purge old messages, remove deleted messages) I think I had appr. 100 MB of disk space recovered. Now I do the maintenance thing every once in a while, but I'm still wondering why exactly I need to do that. Does that have to do with making deleted data reversible, maybe? When you delete a message in The Bat!, it is only marked as deleted in the index file (the .TBI file). This has a number of benefits: * Messages can be deleted quickly. * Deleted messages can be restored. * The Move function can be safer. It copies then deletes. If any part fails, the message still exists. When you compress, The Bat! reads the index file and removes any messages not in it from the message base (the .TBB files). That is why, after a couple of months of use, compressing can save so much space. Every time you use a move filter, a duplicate copy exists in the Inbox until you compress. Your deleted messages also exist until you compress. NB: The message may be marked as deleted in the message base also. To test this theory, delete a message but do not compress. Then, after making the proper backups, delete the index files. Re-open The Bat! and see if the deleted message reappears. If it does, it was only marked as deleted in the index file and not the message base. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernanta estas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. If little green men land in your back yard, hide any little green women you've got in the house. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!'s Icon
Joseph N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 12-Feb-2004 4:58:13 PM TB!'s Icon mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB!'s desktop icon choices seem to be embedded in the executable. Is there a place to find the bitmaps themselves, so I can use it in my IBM Word Pro word processing app to launch TB!? You will need to use a resource editor program to extract the icons from the EXE. I can do this for you if you want me to. E-mail me and tell me where to send the file(s). -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernanta estas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. When in doubt, use brute force. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Selected quote in reply
Hello all, Could someone please remind me of the key sequence to include only selected (highlighted) text in the quote of a reply? Sorry to be so dim yet again. (:-) -- From damp Texas Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selected quote in reply
Hello P.Johnson, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 4:18:07 PM, you wrote: PJ Hello all, PJ Could someone please remind me of the key sequence to include PJ only selected (highlighted) text in the quote of a reply? Sorry PJ to be so dim yet again. (:-) Highlight the text you want and press 'F4' ;) -- Best regards, Dan Perez San Diego CA pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!'s Icon
Hello Joseph, JN TB!'s desktop icon choices seem to be embedded in the executable. Is JN there a place to find the bitmaps themselves, so I can use it in my JN IBM Word Pro word processing app to launch TB!? Try www.wincustomize.com, select Object Dock from the library to the left and search for the bat. There are a few nice icons for Object Dock in PNG format, which you can use. Peter Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Passworrd Change
Thursday, February 12, 2004, 9:55:14 AM, you wrote: D Did you have any luck finding this program? I searched the TBUD D archives using DeBat as the argument and came up with a list of D messages that contained ...de/bat ... .de being part of a domain name. D No luck on a standalone program named DeBat though. D Searched using Google ... came up with a bunch of D debate web sites, poster sites, and multiple Danish D web sites which I was not able to interpret. Oh well D ... D If you did have any luck finding the program, I would D appreciate you letting me know where. D Thanks in advance. I didn't search, the person who suggested it sent it to me. Email me privately, and I'll pass it on to you :-) Lynn TheBat 2.02.3 CE Windows 2000Service Pack 2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://home.comcast.net/~Hhawthorn/index.html Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: attachment icon
TF Hello rich, TF On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:43:50 -0500 GMT (12/02/2004, 12:43 +0700 GMT), TF rich gregory wrote: I'll press the down arrow to go thru and preview the new mssgs then, when I get to the mssg w/ the attachment icon, it disappears, even though the message does indeed have an attachent and I can open it from the icon in the preview pane. Can anyone please tell me if this sounds familiar? TF No, it doesn't sound familiar. Which TB version are you using? The latest CE download -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
