Re[2]: Empty Mail
Hello Marck, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 10:02:31 PM, you wrote: snipped The stripped message is what the folder (it is *not* a folder) gives to The Bat!. The folder does not store the message stripped. It strips it *while passing it to The Bat!*. The Bat! does not strip it. Please stop saying it is The Bat! and you might start moving towards a solution. Downloading direct from the ISP server instead of this silly folder (it is NOT a folder - it is just a poorly written local email server) should prove that once and for all. more snipping M Your logic to me at least makes no sense. It makes a great deal of sense. Please think a bit deeper and try to understand what I (and many others) have been trying to explain to you about how this works. Your calling it a folder and looking in the temporary message store is doing nothing but confusing you. Even if you don't know what we're talking about, accept that we actually do. It gives me no pleasure to report that requesting the emails direct has made no difference at all to the appearance of some emails, they are still being stripped. I will not bore you or anyone else withis any further as it is obviously something specific to my set up or ISP so I will live with it for a while and C. The only other option to try is to have my mails routed through a completely different MailServer to see if that makes a difference which I will try. I will only report if I find an answer to the mystery so you can put your kill file filters away :-) -- Morpheus Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail
Hello Morpheus, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 9:43:56 PM, you wrote: Now, I don't know much about satellite technique, but I assume it is some sort of proxy. Who configured the machine for you when you got that satellite connection? There was no config the CD software did it all for me illieterate as I am. OK, so you actually did install something to get that thing working, aye? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: How to bounce a message?)
Hallo John, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:20:33 -0500GMT (20-10-2004, 6:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM No there is more to it than this... in fact that may even be my JM message from before that your quoting. You have to have the bounce JM template setup before that will work. JM Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 10:41:19 PM, you wrote: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out John. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 004: Erroneous error - nothing is wrong The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpvnFtUaUZj1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: How to bounce a message?)
Hallo John, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:20:33 -0500GMT (20-10-2004, 6:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M bounce JM JM Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: JM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out John. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you! The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpTMacg6bGnE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cleaning up after update
Hallo Alexander, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:03:54 +0200GMT (19-10-2004, 21:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ASK since v2's filters where stored in a file called account.srx and v3's ASK filters are stored in a file called account.srb - which other old v2 ASK configuration files are left? Is there some sort of purge guide that ASK names the old files that can be removed? .cfg account info for v1 v2 .cfn account info for v3 .flx folder tree for v1 .flb folder tree for v2 v3 .srx filter info for v1 v2 .srb filter info for v3 This only counts for regular releases, not for betas, as I'm not sure per which beta the different formats were included. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can resist everything except temptation. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpgI7DC1VbV8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.0.2.1 Folders lost - cannot be retrieved
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:45:09 +0200GMT (19-10-2004, 18:45 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PF Hello beta testers. Wrong list? PF Due to the renaming bug PF (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3848), things got really PF messed up here. PF I cannot find my folders again. Can you find/restore a file called account.flb? That file includes your folder tree. If it somehow got corrupted, you could delete/move/rename it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Wizard's Guild Parking Only:Violators will be Toad. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpJ633FcS2cw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is it safe to delete the setup files in the Temp directory?
Hallo MFPA, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:19:24 +0100GMT (20-10-2004, 5:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Is it safe to delete the files in the following directory? M C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temp\The Bat! Setup Yes, it was done so automatically on my system. I presume that this isn't the directory you installed TB to. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Cannibals don't eat lawyers. Professional courtesy. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpt34c6eErCN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.0.2.1 Folders lost - cannot be retrieved
Roelof, On 20-10-2004 10:05, you [RO] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PF Hello beta testers. RO Wrong list? I sent it to both lists (however, I should have added TBUDL in the greeting) ... :) RO Can you find/restore a file called account.flb? That file includes RO your folder tree. If it somehow got corrupted, you could RO delete/move/rename it. Thank you! I will try when I get off from work. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.2.1 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bounce Template?
Hallo John, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:19:17 -0500GMT (20-10-2004, 5:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM I recently reformated my computer and lost all my old templates, etc. In that case you'd better start with creating a template for this list with a correct signature delimiter. JM I was wondering if someone could help me get the Bounce template JM set back up, so that I can fake bounce an occasional email. Create a QT called bounce with the following text, you can start it by replying to the message and typing bounce followed by Ctrl-space --start QT bounce-- %Clear %From='Postmaster youraddress'%- %Subject=Undeliverable mail%- Hi, This the mailserver for insert your ISP, I'm sorry but I couldn't deliver the message cited below because of no such user. This is a permanent error Original message %Headers %Text == --end of QT bounce--- -- Groetjes, Roelof In God we trust. All others we monitor... Ä Naval Intelligence The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpiZNePwnXUv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP messages disappear
Hello to All. I got a problem with IMAP; messages shown as new, for example: 8, but when open inbox, they are show again as new then quickly disappear and gone. Filter deletes only two but rests 10/19/2004, 19:20:16: IMAP - Connected to IMAP server (imap.front.ru) 10/19/2004, 19:20:17: IMAP - Logged on as [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/2004, 19:20:19: IMAP - The folder INBOX selected. 0 recent, 0 unread out of 8 total messages 10/19/2004, 19:20:19: FILTER - Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] is deleted 10/19/2004, 19:20:20: FILTER - Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] is deleted 10/19/2004, 19:20:36: IMAP - Idle timeout - logging out 10/19/2004, 19:20:37: IMAP - Session finished 10/19/2004, 19:27:03: IMAP - Connected to IMAP server (imap.front.ru) 10/19/2004, 19:27:04: IMAP - Logged on as [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/2004, 19:27:05: IMAP - The folder INBOX selected. 0 recent, 0 unread out of 8 total messages -- Best regards, VictorD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP messages disappear.
Hallo victorde, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:37:27 -0600GMT (20-10-2004, 7:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V I got a problem with IMAP; As an older instance of this message just appeared here. Did you encounter that problem with the (not current) beta you used to send your first message or did you encounter it it with the latest release? -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vegi. (I came, I saw, I had a salad) The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpCMOh3RTTbv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Questions
Hi guys As a newby I have a couple of question that maybe some of you experienced chaps can answer Is there a way to default the cursor to the top of folders? I am subscribed to this mailing list and I get separate emails from everyone, is there a way combine them all into one email every day? Is there another list I should join? Is there a macro to automatically backup BAT? Is Bayesit the best spam filter to use? Parking, Flagging - are these useful features and how would you use them? I like to put antidotes to emails, is using the Remind Later feature the best way of doing this? How well does the Chat function work? Would you recommend doing a full backup or is the Update function reliable? Many thanks -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions
Hallo Dave, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:11:54 +0200GMT (20-10-2004, 11:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DT Is there a way to default the cursor to the top of folders? No, the cursor starts where you've left it in that folder. DT I am subscribed to this mailing list and I get separate emails from DT everyone, is there a way combine them all into one email every day? Not exactly per day, but there is a digest possibility, see http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl DT Is there another list I should join? No, unless you prefer another language, this is the most appropriate list for newbies. DT Is there a macro to automatically backup BAT? No, of course you could start a batch file that zips your mail folder and the necessary registry settings. DT Is Bayesit the best spam filter to use? It won't work for me, but YMMV DT Parking, Flagging - are these useful features and how would you use DT them? I use flagging to make it easier to find a message, I use parking to keep a message from automatically being purged. DT I like to put antidotes to emails, is using the Remind Later feature the DT best way of doing this? Antidotes? DT How well does the Chat function work? Don't use that. DT Would you recommend doing a full backup or is the Update function DT reliable? Don't use either. DT -- DT Kind Regards Your signature delimiter isn't working properly. It should be dash, dash, space on a line by itself, yours appears to be missing the trailing space. -- Groetjes, Roelof Uh, yeah...I MEANT to do that! The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpMuWKxiD7Nj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: column settings that don't set
Hello Robin! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 9:35 PM, you wrote: RA Hmm, can't confirm that here. I assume your global view mode setting RA (for this test) was No view mode as well. Robin, your comment makes me think I wasn't completely clear in my description. All these changes were done using the drop-down menu View, from The Bat!'s main window, above the listing of messages. I am a mouse person. Before View Modes were put into The Bat!, I did my View settings from that View drop-down menu. So, I assumed that things would so continue, when I got v. 2.11. The first time I clicked on tbudl after that, I lost all my chronological arrangement. The messages were arranged by From (I always view threads by None). This threw me for a total loop. I went to View and re-set to Sort-by Received time. The message list re-sorted properly. I went to another Folder. Came back and found the messages sorted by To. Very buggy behavior to me at the time and I didn't know nearly so much as I know now. Someone asked if I were accidentally clicking on the Column Name and causing the re-setting. No, I wasn't. But it gave me a clue as to another place to do my settings. I scrolled over and clicked on Received Time column name. After that, the Sort-by setting stuck. Although it was not reflected in the View drop-down menu. Now, yesterday when David Boggon wrote in about his problem, I realized that this behavior was included in it. Re-tested using the View drop-down menu to do Sort-by settings. With View/Global View Mode/No View Mode ticked. Changes in the Sort-by settings made on this drop-down menu still do not stick. Stuart Cuddy has explained to me on tbbeta that this is by design. I have already made a BT report. But I think the design is so poor, lacking any understandable documentation for it, that I think the problem still needs to be addressed. The choices in the drop-down menu need to be worded so as to reflect the fact that they are temporary changes. Thank you so much for testing this and reporting back. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail
On Wednesday, October 20, 2004 at 1:21:44 AM [GMT -0500], Morpheus wrote: It gives me no pleasure to report that requesting the emails direct has made no difference at all to the appearance of some emails, they are still being stripped. Have you tried another e-mail client to see what happens? -- -= Allie =- . Kids-They're not sleeping, they're recharging! __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 20 Oct 2004, @ @ at 11:11:54 +0200, when Dave Thomas wrote: Is Bayesit the best spam filter to use? No. The best spam filters are Selective Download filters. I like to put antidotes to emails, is using the Remind Later feature the best way of doing this? If you have any poisoned email, you must act quickly. Remind Later doesn't help. Would you recommend doing a full backup or is the Update function reliable? No. If you like/need your mail, do it manually, or using a batch file. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 49 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBdk/C9q62QPd3XuIRAuZ0AJ9z2/dn+z7oQQiTCh2vaB+EwogrxACeLk76 E5cM+cbL1xG1E8PzzKoN8BM= =rb9/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Letters before the on reply
Hello all, I'd like to know if this is possible to add the letter before the or when you reply to someone? I have noticed that you guys use like that: FF I have noticed that you guys use like that: blahblah Do you manually add the letters or you use some kind of templates? Regards -- The Final Cut [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thebat: 3.0.2.1 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail
Hello Peter, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:35:49 +0200 GMT (19/10/2004, 21:35 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: PF This is the closest I have found for an empty mail. PF | X-SmartMax-AuthUser: PF | Received: zbp[2 PF It looks very strange. I would think that the spammer doesn't have a clue how to use his spamming software, so I wouldn't be surprised if the mail was indeed without a body. -- Cheers, Thomas. Mit einem Kostuemball kann man keine Tore schiessen. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Letters before the on reply
Hello finalcut, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:59:29 -0400GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ffc I'd like to know if this is possible to add the letter ffc before the or when you reply to someone? ffc I have noticed that you guys use like that: FF I have noticed that you guys use like that: ffc blahblah ffc Do you manually add the letters or you use some kind of templates? use the macro %QUOTESTYLE=I in your reply template, that will do the job. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Letters before the on reply
Hello finalcut! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 7:59 AM, you wrote: ffc I'd like to know if this is possible to add the letter ffc before the or when you reply to someone? ... ffc Do you manually add the letters or you use some kind of templates? Templates, in the Address Book. Here's mine for a Reply to tbudl: === Hello %OFRomFName! On %ODate, %OTime, you wrote: %quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%- (Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%- -BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3 -- Best regards, === To which I also have the rest of the sig, personal to me, which you see below. Click on the Silverstones link at the bottom of each tbudl post for other useful information. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Letters before the on reply
Hello finalcut, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:59:29 -0400 GMT (20/10/2004, 19:59 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FF I have noticed that you guys use like that: ffc Do you manually add the letters or you use some kind of templates? Go to: Account / Properties / Templates / Reply There is a box Sender information... This is where I have ticked the (.) Initial radio button. -- Cheers, Thomas. There are a lot of drunk people about to drive home, so drive as fast as you can. It's harder for drunk people to hit you. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Letters before the on reply
Hello Thomas Fernandez Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:08:55 AM, you wrote: TF Go to: TF Account / Properties / Templates / Reply TF There is a box Sender information... This is where I have ticked the TF (.) Initial radio button. thanks a lot! -- The Final Cut [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thebat: 3.0.2.1 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Letters before the on reply
Hello finalcut! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 8:13 AM, you wrote: ffc I'd like to know if this is possible to add the letter ffc before the or when you reply to someone? MB ... ffc Do you manually add the letters or you use some kind of templates? MB Templates, in the Address Book. Here's mine for a Reply to tbudl: Should have looked before I sent, since that template has the instructions to sign PGP in it. I have the macro to disable the PGP signature when sending to lists however, also in my tbudl New and Reply templates. I like Address Book templates better than the Account/Properties/Templates--which they over-ride--because I can be more specific to each circumstance of my various recipients that way. MB Click on the Silverstones link at the bottom of each tbudl post for MB other useful information. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail
Hello Morpheus, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:40:49 +0100 GMT (20/10/2004, 02:40 +0700 GMT), Morpheus wrote: M Using my language I can see inside 'the folder' the raw messages so if M anything was going to 'mangle' it as you poetically put it, would it M not have done so already? Yet when I look at the raw message in my M TEXTEDITOR I see the whole and not the stripped message TheBat! M offers up to me. How do you open the messages in the text editor? Over here, the mails are downloaded into the .tbb files, and these show garbage in the text editor. So what file are you opening? From there, we'll look which software accesses the message before it goes to TB. Let's go step-by-step. With regards to another message of yours, yes, it is obviously unique to your system, but you got me hooked and I want to see whether we can fix it. Even though I understand that we are only talking about spam messages, you have not lost real messages, have you? M When I open TheBat! and ask to see my messages it pulls them from M the folder and does its thing. If the satellite software was going M to strip the emails why would it not have done so already. No apparently it is not your satellite software, you do have the full message on your computer. But where, I wonder. The message body gets lost on the way from that file which you can open in the text editor to the import into TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. Erst starb mein Mann, dann alle 28 Kakteen. * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail
Dear Thomas, @20-Oct-2004, 20:20 +0700 (20-Oct 14:20 UK time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Morpheus: M Using my language I can see inside 'the folder' the raw messages so if M anything was going to 'mangle' it as you poetically put it, would it M not have done so already? Yet when I look at the raw message in my M TEXTEDITOR I see the whole and not the stripped message TheBat! M offers up to me. TF How do you open the messages in the text editor? The Satellite software is downloading the messages into a holding folder external to TB and driver by its own virtual POP handler. The holding folder is a simple disk folder that contains .msg files. These files can be viewed with a text editor. TF Over here, the mails are downloaded into the .tbb files, and these TF show garbage in the text editor. So what file are you opening? The satellite offline message folder contents external to TB - prior to receiving the messages in TB. ... snip TF No apparently it is not your satellite software, Actually - it seem that there is possibly something amiss with the message body format before it even arrives in the offline folder. Although the whole message can be seen in a text editor, once it is transmitted by POP protocol to TB, the body has been removed. Morpheus has said this happens with or without the middle-man offline folder's intervention. Telling TB to grab the messages from the Satellite ISP's POP server directly by changing the account settings in TB still resulted in truncated messages. Unless, of course, Morpheus simply opened the connection and downloaded, expecting the messages to come direct from the ISP without changing any settings... in which case, we still don't know. TF you do have the full message on your computer. But where, I TF wonder. The message body gets lost on the way from that file which TF you can open in the text editor to the import into TB. Yes - and POP3 is the import method. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpVN6DA5XrKl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP messages disappear.
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 3:09:56 AM, you wrote: RO Did you RO encounter that problem with the (not current) beta you used to send RO your first message or did you encounter it it with the latest release? Actually with both. And no SP2 installed. Al other IMAP account works well. When log on into e-mail account trough web interface b4 using TB, there are there. -- Best regards, VictorD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
on Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:44:02 -0700 (10:44 EDT here) you wrote This seems to hang The Bat! when called as %Qinclude=TZoffset For what it's worth: Your system's time zone offset (in seconds) iresides in your system's registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert it to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), using the ActiveTimeZone template in The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library at: http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello TBUDL, At work, I use TB 3.0.1.33 under Win XP Pro SP2 with 512M RAM. Not sure about the processor speed, but it's a usually pretty fast computer. In the main account, I have 73 Incoming filters. Some have only one condition, others more. The more conditions a filter has, the slower it gets to open the particular filter, and even slower to add more conditions. All conditions are OR and on Header: Contains and Action: Move to folder X. When I open the filter with 45 OR conditions, it already opens very slow. Today I opened the filter with 56 conditions, as I had to add another one. Opening already took many seconds. But adding the new one took several minutes! Here are the details: 1.) Click on the filter (takes several seconds for the filter to display the many conditions, see above). 2.) Click on Add and chose the kind, such as OR, that goes pretty fast. 3.) Click on Sender (in order to choose Header) and this took minutes. Literally. I opened Windows task manager and saw TB's CPU usage in the high nineties while the rest of the computer (including the usually-flapping bat icon) froze. 4.) After a while (2 minutes or so) the CPU usage went down to zero, everything went back to normal, and I could add the email address. The filtering itself works fine. I didn't have this problem with TB 2.12. I also don't notice a slow-down when opening filters with just a few conditions, but from 10 or 20 upwards, it's noticable. With 45 still tolerable, if you really love TB. With 56 conditions, the opening time alone is already intolerable, forget about adding conditions. Reliably reproducible. Can anybody confirm? NB: I know my number of filters and conditions is unusually high, but shouldn't TB v3 be able to handle it as gracefully as v2.12 did? At least you get a clue why I said in the beta phase that filtering is crucial to me, I couldn't handle over 300 messages day without TB's superior filtering system. But adding a new email address to a filter taking minutes just takes the fun out of it. -- TIA, Thomas. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Dear Dan, @20-Oct-2004, 10:03 -0400 (20-Oct 15:03 UK time) Dan Grunberg [DG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Michael: DG Your system's time zone offset (in seconds) iresides in your system's DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert it DG to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), using the DG ActiveTimeZone template in The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library at: DG http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php This should be accessible as simply http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php but the ISP has something wrong on their CGI server. I have no idea what, but I'd really appreciate a straw poll. Can people mail me off-list and let me know whether or not they can hit the domain mapped URL http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php. It might help with determining the scale of the problem. Thanks. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp9LWG3DAoLP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail
Hello Marck, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:34:09 +0100 GMT (20/10/2004, 20:34 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TF How do you open the messages in the text editor? MDP The Satellite software is downloading the messages into a holding MDP folder external to TB and driver by its own virtual POP handler. The MDP holding folder is a simple disk folder that contains .msg files. These MDP files can be viewed with a text editor. I didn't know that. So that's what satellite download software does. TF Over here, the mails are downloaded into the .tbb files, and these TF show garbage in the text editor. So what file are you opening? MDP The satellite offline message folder contents external to TB - prior to MDP receiving the messages in TB. Yes, but does TB receive directly from there? Does the satellite software place it on localhost, accessible at port 110? Does TB connect to localhost:110? Like you, I think there is something in between, and since you have answered my first question, we need to identify what is in between. Morpheus said that he is not an IT expert, so my suggestion for the next step is that we now look at port numbers. TF No apparently it is not your satellite software, MDP Actually - it seem that there is possibly something amiss with the MDP message body format before it even arrives in the offline folder. MDP Although the whole message can be seen in a text editor, once it is MDP transmitted by POP protocol to TB, the body has been removed. I'm not with you yet. If he can see the body in the .msg file, this should be imported into TB and he can see it when hitting F9. This is not the case. MDP Morpheus has said this happens with or without the middle-man MDP offline folder's intervention. Telling TB to grab the messages MDP from the Satellite ISP's POP server directly by changing the MDP account settings in TB still resulted in truncated messages. There can still be an anti-virus/spam software in between. Some of them are transparent, so he would still connect to port 110, but let's wait for his reply before going down that road. -- Cheers, Thomas. A duck walks into a drugstore and ask the clerk for Chapstick. The clerk puts the Chapstick on the counter and says, That will be $2. The duck replies, Just put it on my bill. (true story) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Dan, On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, at 17:03 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: DG Your system's time zone offset (in seconds) iresides in your system's DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert it DG to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), using the DG ActiveTimeZone template in The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library at: DG http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php I am afraid that this macro works only in case when you have negative offset to GMT. I am in GMT+3 and in my system ActivetimeBias is 4294967116. Macto says that this value gives offset in minutes. In my case it is negative number, however that macro retrieves unsigned value insted of signed one... Does anyone know how to convert unsigned value to signed value in The Bat! regexp? -- Edvinas Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Dan, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:03:06 -0400GMT Dan Grunberg wrote: DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert it DG to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: IMAP messages disappear.
Hello Michael, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 8:15:52 AM, you wrote: MA Account/Preference) and at the bottom of the menu is preferences. I MA clicked on that and it brought up a new window. In there is a MA selection called IMAP Fine-Tune. I played around with the settings MA (in fact I have them all checked now) and now the IMAP account is MA acting like I want it to. MA As I said, this might not be the same problem you are having, but it MA has helped my with my IMAP Account. Now I can spell IMAP :) Still the same: 10/20/2004, 08:32:19: IMAP - Connected to IMAP server (imap.front.ru) 10/20/2004, 08:32:20: IMAP - Logged on as [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/20/2004, 08:32:21: IMAP - The folder INBOX selected. 0 recent, 5 unread out of 8 total messages 10/20/2004, 08:32:27: IMAP - Session finished -- Best regards, VictorDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 38 Total Clean Emails: 1036 BayesIT guessed right 99.552632% of the time My email is 3.538175% spam = Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP messages disappear.
Hello Michael! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:15 AM, you wrote: MA As I said, this might not be the same problem you are having, but it MA has helped my with my IMAP Account. Now I can spell IMAP :) MA Hope this helps... I'll bet it does. And I found your style in writing the message brought a smile to my face, since the comments on spelling are perfectly delightful. (To an old dyslexic typo maker, that is. :) ) -- Best regards, Mary :texasflag: :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Feli! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:35 AM, you wrote: DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert it DG to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), FW 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! Musicians can't count. :gdr: :) -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Letters before the on reply
FF I have noticed that you guys use like that: Do you manually add the letters or you use some kind of templates? Oh! I know the answer to this one! In the Account Properties, under Templates and Reply there is an option there to number the replies and also to put the persons initials in front of their replies. -- Bryan Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Glad I could make you smile (Was Re: IMAP messages disappear.)
Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:40:06 AM, (Internet Time - @652) you wrote: Hello Mary, MB I'll bet it does. And I found your style in writing the message MB brought a smile to my face, since the comments on spelling are MB perfectly delightful. (To an old dyslexic typo maker, that is. :) ) Glad I could help :) As when I was in the Navy, we used to say, Yesterday I couldn't even spell Electronics Technician. Now I are one. :gdr: -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Bob! Hay what's up? How's life? pgpkqARBdHHnb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Feli! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:46 AM, Mary replied to you: DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and DG convert it to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - DG EDT), FW 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! MB Musicians can't count. :gdr: :) And then I thought, again. Hmm 60 seconds to the minute, 60 minutes to the hour: 60 x 60 = 3600 seconds to the hour 3600 x 60 = 21,600 Therefore, computer specialists and English majors can't multiply! LOL :unreal2: QED Whut? -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Mary, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:46:01 -0500GMT Mary Bull wrote: DG to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), FW 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! MB Musicians can't count. :gdr: :) Only mathematicians are good musicians and the reverse is false? -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 10:03 AM, you wrote: MB 3600 x 60 = 21,600 MB Therefore, computer specialists and English majors can't multiply! Never mind, Mary. Go back to bed. That's 60 hours and you left off a zero. :unreal2: -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Feli! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 10:09 AM, you wrote: MB Musicians can't count. :gdr: :) FW Only mathematicians are good musicians and the reverse is false? Truer words were never spoken. See my subsequent posts attempting to multiply 3600 x 60. LOL In general the universe is irreversible? Whut? -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Glad I could make you smile (Was Re: IMAP messages disappear.)
Hello Michael! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:51 AM, you wrote: MB perfectly delightful. (To an old dyslexic typo maker, that is. :) ) MA Glad I could help :) MA As when I was in the Navy, we used to say, Yesterday I couldn't even MA spell Electronics Technician. Now I are one. :gdr: LOL Decided I could risk one more reply here, since I'm posting OT all over the place already, this morning. :) -- Best regards, Mary:texasflag: :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Mary, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:03:06 -0500GMT Mary Bull wrote: FW 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! MB Musicians can't count. :gdr: :) MB And then I thought, again. Hmm 60 seconds to the minute, 60 minutes MB to the hour: MB 60 x 60 = 3600 seconds to the hour correct MB 3600 x 60 = 21,600 false, 3600 x 60 = 216 000 but why did you multiply the hours by 60? :confused: There was 5 hours time difference and this results in 18 000 seconds. Calculating time differences is very common to meteorologists (like me) :-) MB Therefore, computer specialists and English majors can't multiply! they have computers for that :compute: MB QED Whut? quot erat demonstrandum what? -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 20 Oct 2004, @ @ at 17:09:26 +0200, when Feli Wilcke wrote: Hello Mary, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:46:01 -0500GMT Mary Bull wrote: DG to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), FW 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! MB Musicians can't count. :gdr: :) Only mathematicians are good musicians and the reverse is false? Only musicians can count more than two halves in one whole correctly. (-: It says something about transcendental mathematics used in music. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 49 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBdobo9q62QPd3XuIRAvMoAKCAxyE5tIEkixEHDAAkqUdtXGuOJgCdF3km orM+GWsfW/xOGAhCQAiJhUQ= =nB5j -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 20 Oct 2004, @ @ at 10:19:43 -0500, when Mary Bull wrote: In general the universe is irreversible? Whut? In general, yes. In particular, it depends. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 49 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBdodl9q62QPd3XuIRAiMvAKCZqjKxS78Zgc90Hs3sN4UcU8r6+ACfbIV3 TR6SLapbf8BBbLfSYDCIR/4= =4h7A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Feli! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 10:35 AM, you wrote: FW 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! MB Musicians can't count. :gdr: :) MB And then I thought, again. Hmm 60 seconds to the minute, 60 minutes MB to the hour: MB 60 x 60 = 3600 seconds to the hour FW correct MB 3600 x 60 = 21,600 FW false, 3600 x 60 = 216 000 but why did you multiply the hours by 60? :confused: FW There was 5 hours time difference and this results in 18 000 seconds. Because it felt so harmonious? 60x60x60, a nice neat cube, except I left off the zero. And it fits in with all the degrees of longitude of the earth. And, and ... I went off in a daydream? FW Calculating time differences is very common to meteorologists (like FW me) :-) Of course. But not to computer specialists/amateur musicians like Dan G. And nor to English majors like me. vbg MB Therefore, computer specialists and English majors can't multiply! FW they have computers for that :compute: I love it! MB QED Whut? FW quot erat demonstrandum what? QED Computer specialists/amateur musicians and English majors can't multiply! The whut is the English major's mantra. I picked the spelling up from Terry Pratchett in his SF/Satire novel *Interesting Times*. -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Mica! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 10:42 AM, you wrote: MB In general the universe is irreversible? Whut? MM In general, yes. In particular, it depends. Time travel? You're going to present me with a means of time travel? Joy. :realtardis: -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bounce Template?
Thanks, works like a charm! -- ~John Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 3:28:30 AM, you wrote: RO Create a QT called bounce with the following text, you can start it by RO replying to the message and typing bounce followed by Ctrl-space RO --start QT bounce-- RO %Clear RO %From='Postmaster youraddress'%- RO %Subject=Undeliverable mail%- RO Hi, RO This the mailserver for insert your ISP, I'm sorry but I couldn't RO deliver the message cited below because of no such user. This is a RO permanent error RO Original message RO %Headers RO %Text RO == RO --end of QT bounce--- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV's
Hello, Not sure if this got lost, so here we go again.. I am getting AV's with 3.0 and the latest GA version and the latest beta and all the RC. All I have to do is click on the Folder Maintenance manager and bamm... AV... Am I the only one having this problem See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3901 Also, the bug is in feedback status. what does that mean? Are they expecting something from me? IF so, what? They did not indicate anything in a note... Thanks for the help Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.7.3 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AVs when clicking on Folder Maintenance [was Re: AV's]
Hello Joe! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 11:12 AM, you wrote, in part: J Am I the only one having this problem J See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3901 Did you not see my reply to you here yesterday? I thought perhaps you might have, since you seemed to take my advice, by having put an updated note to your BT issues report. However, you did not also write to tbbeta about the problem, as I thought you should, although you turned up there asking where to get the latest beta version of The Bat! Did you take my advice and write directly to Stefan or 9Val, inquiring what Feedback information they need from you? It is frustrating to me to post to you and not receive a direct Reply as a return Post on the lists where I have replied to you. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVs when clicking on Folder Maintenance [was Re: AV's]
Hello Joe! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 11:31 AM, you wrote: MB Did you not see my reply to you here yesterday? ... J Sorry, No... I did not see your reply. Everytime I get the AV, J it doesn't go away and I have to kill TB. I then loose some mail, J and sometimes folders like my bat list folders. It's real J frustrating. ... I know that it is. I really want to get some help for you. J ... Yes, I did also send the mesasage to the beta list. You say I J should write directly to Stefan or 9Val, inquiring what Feedback J information they need. Ok, I will do that. ... Good. I have never written to either of them without getting an answer, although it sometimes takes a few days. J ... It just seems that since We are doing all their testing, it J would be nice if they sent me a note explaining what they need as I J requested in the bug notes. ... I think, partly, it is that we are writing to them in a language which is a foreign language to them. I think from their point of view that a request for Feedback--meaning, usually, that they could not reproduce the problem and need help for what else to try in order to reproduce it--is self-explanatory. Do you have an except.log in the directory The Bat!/Mail/except.log? If so, it should show a time-by-time account of the occurrence of the AVs. That (I don't know for sure) might help them spot the place that's giving you fits. Another thing which is happening right now, is that they have just begun coding the new beta series. So they may wait to look at the new and old Bug Notes until they have taken care of the agenda they've set out to do for the beta series leading up to the Christmas Edition release. That is why I thought you should write directly to 9Val or Stefan, as programmers, explaining that you don't know what Feedback to give and asking them to be more specific in the request. J Anyway, I will do it. How can I be the only one having this J proplem??? Don't know. It could be somewhere in your other settings, obscure to you, but making this block. It could be in how The Bat! is interacting with other software on your computer, or how it is interacting with your operating system. It could be that at some point you got a faulty download of The Bat! and that, in overwriting to install subsequent versions, the fault was conserved. A complete uninstall followed by a clean install might solve the problem. Or not. I don't know how extensive your computer skills are. Are you up to doing a complete backup of all your TB! configuraiton, registration, and data files? To an external back-up source, for safety's sake? And then a complete uninstall, including editing the Registry, in case Add/Remove did not finish its job? I would have to be desperate to attempt that, myself. But I guess you *are* desperate. And guys on these lists do that sort of thing routinely, mostly without getting in trouble. :) Anyway, keep us posted, both here and on tbbeta as to what happens next with you. Best of luck. Thanks for writing back to me. I'm glad this time my mail to you didn't get lost. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
testing of IMAP
Hallo TBUDL, Never mind my signature, I'm testing an IMAP account. -- Groetjes, Roelof Everyone IS entitled to my opinion. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: testing of IMAP
Hallo Roelof, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:29:23 +0200GMT (20-10-2004, 19:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Never mind my signature, I'm testing an IMAP account. If I only found out why my filter doesn't work. -- Groetjes, Roelof Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy of Windows95. - Satan The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:35:13 +0200 (10:35 AM EDT here) Feli Wilcke wrote: Hello Dan, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:03:06 -0400GMT Dan Grunberg wrote: DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert DG it to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! Oh my. Of course I meant the time offset in minutes. Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Dan! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 1:02 PM, you wrote: DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert DG it to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - EDT), Feli 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! DG Oh my. DG Of course I meant the time offset in minutes. Oh, we knew that. It just gave me a great opportunity to launch myself off-topic again. Haven't had so much fun since HMS Pinafore. lol -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:06:30 -0500 (2:06 PM EDT here) Mary Bull wrote: Hello Dan! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 1:02 PM, you wrote: DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and DG convert it to your time zone (e.g. -300 seconds = 5 hours, - DG EDT), Feli 300 seconds are only 5 minutes, 5 hours have 18000 seconds! DG Oh my. DG Of course I meant the time offset in minutes. Oh, we knew that. It just gave me a great opportunity to launch myself off-topic again. Haven't had so much fun since HMS Pinafore. lol I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical, I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical, About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news, With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse. I'm very good at integral and differential calculus; And so what if I can't count? Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to bounce a message?
Hi On Wednesday, 20 October, 2004, at 5:20:33 AM, John Morse wrote: Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 10:41:19 PM, you wrote: TB Highlight all the text you want to bounce, TB press F4. Type bounce and hit TB ctrl+enter and it'll generate a message saying TB your address has no valid TB recipient. bounce M bounce No there is more to it than this... Evidently, from the two lines above that say bounce! You have to have the bounce template setup before that will work. The bounce template? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT Calculating Pinafore Style [was Re: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies]
Hello Dan! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 1:26 PM, you wrote: DG I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical, DG I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical, DG About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news, DG With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse. DG I'm very good at integral and differential calculus; DG And so what if I can't count? 2, 4, 6, 8, Who do we appreciate? Dan, Dan, Dan, he 'da Man!! lol One can learn a lot in a batty marching football-season band! I think I've about pushed my OT Luck to the Limit. I don't think using the word batty will be considered as keeping this mail on-topic. :unreal2: :) -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: : : TB 3.01 Installer
Hi On Sunday, 17 October, 2004, at 6:22:48 PM, Perry Nelson wrote: Hi Jeff, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 1:06:46 PM, you wrote: I did notice that I don't have the same properties screens available for *.zip and *.pdf files as I do for *.exe files. There doesn't seem to be a Summary tab for those. For *.exe I have General, Version, Compatibility, Virus Property, Summary. For *.zip and *.pdf I have General, Virus Property, Summary. For *.msi: General, Digital Signatures, Custom, Virus Property, Summary. YMMV ;-) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Determiing Reply Type in Macros
Hi On Saturday, 16 October, 2004, at 7:06:09 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Bill, On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:38:09 -0700GMT (16-10-2004, 19:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM TB has two buttons: Reply to the message selected and Reply to all. Is there BM any way in a reply template to determine which one was pushed? 'Reply to all' is likely to have more addressees, so you could check for those. If I select reply for your message I generate an email to Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] with nothing in CC: or BCC:. If I select reply to all I generate an email to Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] with CC: to Bill McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access violation when moving folders for rules
When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation, like the message attached. Access violations then occur each time I try to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB. Nothing is corrupted and everything works fine after I restart the client. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgpIIzTanxAZs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: IMAP messages disappear.
Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:35:41 AM, (Internet Time - @649) you wrote: Hello victorde, v Still the same: 10/20/2004, 08:32:19: IMAP - Connected to IMAP server (imap.front.ru) 10/20/2004, 08:32:20: IMAP - Logged on as [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/20/2004, 08:32:21: IMAP - The folder INBOX selected. 0 recent, 5 unread out of 8 total messages 10/20/2004, 08:32:27: IMAP - Session finished Ok, have you tried the Folder/Purge+Compress? I am not that familiar at all with IMAP and I am just telling you the things that I have done. Maybe that will help a little. If not then I can't think of anything else I have done to get my IMAP account working. Hope this helps, alittle... -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Mulder! FBI! Step out of the suit, Kosh; I have some questions. pgpeJLFW8TnFW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVs when clicking on Folder Maintenance [was Re: AV's]
Hello Mary, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 12:54:07 PM, you wrote: Hello Joe! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 11:31 AM, you wrote: MB Did you not see my reply to you here yesterday? ... J Sorry, No... I did not see your reply. Everytime I get the AV, J it doesn't go away and I have to kill TB. I then loose some mail, J and sometimes folders like my bat list folders. It's real J frustrating. ... I know that it is. I really want to get some help for you. Hi, thanks for the response. I did write to them. Waiting for response. I have many machines. I installed TB on three. One is win2k sp4, Others are xp, sp2 and sp1. All 3 fail the same way. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP support in TB 3.x: OpenPGP option and spotting PGP messages with filters
Hi On Monday, 18 October, 2004, at 12:22:48 PM, Allie Martin wrote: You may wish not to use OpenPGP from within TB! and only externally. There are those who do not wish to use integrated support. I find that if I use TB!'s integrated support to encrypt and sign with PGP 8.1 the message is only sometimes sent, further attempts to sign or encrypt using the integrated support bring up Access Violation messages, and often I can no longer verify or decrypt using the integrated support until I close down and restart TB! (restarting PGPserv won't help). The bug report is at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3488 -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski On 20.October.2004, 3:14 PM (Now: 20.October.2004, 3:50 PM), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGA When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I AGA slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation, AGA like the message attached. Access violations then occur each time I try AGA to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB. Nothing is corrupted AGA and everything works fine after I restart the client. I had this bug with the same version that you have right now I suggest you to upgrade to a more recent version of TB! -- The Final Cut [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thebat: 3.0.2.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Calculating GMT (Time Zone) for replies
Hello Dan, old message... DG Your system's time zone offset (in seconds) iresides in your system's DG registry. You can read the TZoffset from the registry and convert it DG http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php My reply... I try the TZone macro with all the sub-macros and it hangs The Bat 3 So, it is lovely that this thread has gotten s off topic, I just want to use this macro. -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had this bug with the same version that you have right now I suggest you to upgrade to a more recent version of TB! Uh, I only upgraded to this version six days ago. Do I have to upgrade this product once a day, or what? I've also noticed that this problem may be hanging to client in some way; I noticed it hanging on POP3 access, but after I killed the process it worked again. Not sure what's happening there. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgpVZ4vI2mCbr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBAT v3.0 disappears...
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 1:53:56 AM, Pietro Iacono wrote: I've upgraded to TheBAT! v3.0 few days ago and I have this problem: from time to time it close itself, without any error message o anything else. It just disappears. This happens both when I'm using other software and TheBAT is in background, and when I'm not using the PC. Is it a known bug? Has anybody else noticed it? I'm having the same experience. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBAT v3.0 disappears...
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 4:13:12 AM, Pietro Iacono wrote: I've just checked riilabs website and seen it's a known bug of 3.0 version, and it has been fixed in 3.1. I'll download it as soon as i can. No. Even happened to me today with the latest beta. Tried to post on beta list, but it hasn't shown up yet there. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] everyone else 20-Okt-2004 21:51, you wrote: AGA When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I AGA slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation, AGA like the message attached. Access violations then occur each time I try AGA to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB. Nothing is corrupted AGA and everything works fine after I restart the client. I had this bug with the same version that you have right now I suggest you to upgrade to a more recent version of TB! Ahem... Anthony is using 3.0.1.33 which *is* the latest stable release version, the only more recent version is 3.0.2.1 (which is a beta), and the stability of that release is, according to the posts here, even more questionable... (btw. I just saw that I, after thinking wow, lucky I don't have any problems forgot to actually install 3.0.2.1 ... so its wait and see for me now) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 without smilies :-P Deliplayer2 is playing: Catharsis by Deviant Electronics from the 1997 album 'Brainwashing Is Child's Play' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Hello Alexander S. Kunz On 20.October.2004, 4:19 PM (Now: 20.October.2004, 4:21 PM), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ASK Ahem... Anthony is using 3.0.1.33 which *is* the latest stable release ASK version, the only more recent version is 3.0.2.1 (which is a beta), and the ASK stability of that release is, according to the posts here, even more ASK questionable... ASK (btw. I just saw that I, after thinking wow, lucky I don't have any ASK problems forgot to actually install 3.0.2.1 ... so its wait and see for ASK me now) Well I am just saying that because I had the same problem so whatever the name or the number of the version, it doesnt matter at all And when I upgraded to 3.0.2.1, the bug disappeared chears -- The Final Cut [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thebat: 3.0.2.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP support in TB 3.x: OpenPGP option and spotting PGP messages with filters
MFPA writes: I find that if I use TB!'s integrated support to encrypt and sign with PGP 8.1 the message is only sometimes sent, further attempts to sign or encrypt using the integrated support bring up Access Violation messages, and often I can no longer verify or decrypt using the integrated support until I close down and restart TB! (restarting PGPserv won't help). The first part of this problem appears to have been fixed in 3.x; I had similar problems and now they seem to be gone, although it's still early. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgpb6lwqx6bCS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP support in TB 3.x: OpenPGP option and spotting PGP messages with filters
Hi On Wednesday, 20 October, 2004, at 9:08:44 PM, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: The first part of this problem appears to have been fixed in 3.x; I had similar problems and now they seem to be gone, although it's still early. Good to hear. Looking forward to being able to use this feature reliably. I downloaded the latest version of TB! last night. I suspect I shall install and try it out soon. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP support in TB 3.x: OpenPGP option and spotting PGP messages with filters
MFPA writes: Good to hear. Looking forward to being able to use this feature reliably. I downloaded the latest version of TB! last night. I suspect I shall install and try it out soon. I current have the client set to sign all of my messages to this list (via folder templates), and it is working correctly and automatically, as you can see. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgpOxnwhn8xSI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Empty Mail
Hello Allie, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 12:03:42 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, October 20, 2004 at 1:21:44 AM [GMT -0500], Morpheus wrote: It gives me no pleasure to report that requesting the emails direct has made no difference at all to the appearance of some emails, they are still being stripped. Have you tried another e-mail client to see what happens? I recently transferred my mail from Poco Mail to TheBat! I had not experienced this problem with mail before this exchange... however there is more to this than this simple statement..if I may explain- When I heard about the wondrous things TheBat! could do with handling spam I decided to lift all my redirection email addresses which were currently going into an account at mailinator.com and have them once again bombard me with spam so that I could try and teach BayesIT how to recognise an avalanche of spam. 95% of my spam was going unseen but there were odd iems that kept getting through the net and as I like to tinker I thought I could get TheBat! to spamate them once and for all. So to tell the truth Poco Mail has never received any spam mail so I cannot say for certain that it did not have this problem before the installation. I have had my domain name for several years and as such I am have been found by up to 50 spammers a day so TheBat! gets a good workout :-) I have only lost one email that I did not want to lose all the rest that have been stripped have been crap mail. Bonafide mail does not seem to be affected at all. In fact I opened a hotmail account and sent myself a message to see if it was stripped and it was not so I suspect it is those emails that contain only a HREF to an external image and no content. And this leads me to suspect BayesIT is the guilty party with some internal flag to render this type of email harmless. -- Morpheus Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Empty Mail
Hello Marck, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 2:34:09 PM, you wrote: Dear Thomas, @20-Oct-2004, 20:20 +0700 (20-Oct 14:20 UK time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Morpheus: M Using my language I can see inside 'the folder' the raw messages so if M anything was going to 'mangle' it as you poetically put it, would it M not have done so already? Yet when I look at the raw message in my M TEXTEDITOR I see the whole and not the stripped message TheBat! M offers up to me. TF How do you open the messages in the text editor? The Satellite software is downloading the messages into a holding folder external to TB and driver by its own virtual POP handler. The holding folder is a simple disk folder that contains .msg files. These files can be viewed with a text editor. TF Over here, the mails are downloaded into the .tbb files, and these TF show garbage in the text editor. So what file are you opening? The satellite offline message folder contents external to TB - prior to receiving the messages in TB. .. snip TF No apparently it is not your satellite software, Actually - it seem that there is possibly something amiss with the message body format before it even arrives in the offline folder. Although the whole message can be seen in a text editor, once it is transmitted by POP protocol to TB, the body has been removed. Morpheus has said this happens with or without the middle-man offline folder's intervention. Telling TB to grab the messages from the Satellite ISP's POP server directly by changing the account settings in TB still resulted in truncated messages. Unless, of course, Morpheus simply opened the connection and downloaded, expecting the messages to come direct from the ISP without changing any settings... in which case, we still don't know. TF you do have the full message on your computer. But where, I TF wonder. The message body gets lost on the way from that file which TF you can open in the text editor to the import into TB. Yes - and POP3 is the import method. No I am stupid but not that stupid :-) I changed my settings from pop3server 127.0.0.1 to mail.skydsl.de and this requires an open internet connection to pull (did I say that right) the mail to my PC. I said in an earlier email that this stripping appears to be very selective and far more intelligent than I. It only appears to strip spam but I do recall the emails I viewed intact before DID contain text and not just an external reference to an image or site elsewhere. Something on my computer seems to be leaping in at the transfer stage from localhost folder to TheBat! to kill the content. Could it be SPYBOT? It is not designed to do this as far as I know but apart from that and AVG and Kerio is the only stuff I have running except of course my satellite software which always running. -- Morpheus Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More than six accounts: check fails over six
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 11:07:10 AM, admin wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] a Having got v3.0.1.33 and running POPFile I find the same problem over a checking more than six email accounts occurs. a I.e: TB log reports 'could not connect to mail server' for any more a than six accounts being checked at the same time. a Can anyone offer a way round this? I have to check all accounts a individually to be sure all have been checked. Are they all accounts on the same mail server? If so it may be a limitation of the server set up rather than a problem in TB!/POPFile. One of our domains would only accept three connections at a time to the mail server - more than three and we had the same message as you had. -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux user #345132 Flying high with The Bat! v3.0.1 RC3 on Xandros Desktop Deluxe v2.0 Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message flags icons
On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 4:35:29 AM, MFPA wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M I use colour groups, so that all unread messages are listed in M red. Or you could set an Unread Messages display shortcut. I have this set to Ctrl+# for Show Only Unread Messages and then I use the preset shortcut Ctrl+= to show all messages if I want to see everything. Set shortcuts via Alt+F12 then look down to find Main Menu View Display Only Unread Messages and double click to open the box to set the shortcut. It's extremely simple and effective. -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux user #345132 Flying high with The Bat! v3.0.1 RC3 on Xandros Desktop Deluxe v2.0 Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)
On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 11:04:10 PM, Alexander wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A *And* it has been proven more than once that there's simply *NO* so-called A saving at all - what improvement and daylight saving is this when by A the end of October the clocks go back 1 hour so its earler light in the A morning, but in exchange for that its earlier dark in the evening? We were taught at school that the reasoning behind it was to make it safer for children walking to school in the morning. Being light earlier meant they were visible rather than having to walk in the dark. As schools generally finish before it gets dark in the afternoon the children were still safe to walk home again. Nowadays many are taken by car so it's questionable whether there is a benefit but if it does make walking safer for those who do then I hope it stays. :) Follow Up to TBOT as now way OT for TBUDL ;) -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux user #345132 Flying high with The Bat! v3.0.1 RC3 on Xandros Desktop Deluxe v2.0 Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: More than six accounts: check fails over six
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 11:07:10 AM, admin wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are they all accounts on the same mail server? If so it may be a limitation of the server set up rather than a problem in TB!/POPFile. One of our domains would only accept three connections at a time to the mail server - more than three and we had the same message as you had. Hmm... I think I checked that before - but I'll do so again. Thanks. ALthough I do believe it's something to do with port limits or something in WinXP -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
KAV plugin for TB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 20.October.2004 5:40 PM Hello TBUDL! I got this Kaspersky Antivirus plugin and i can't start it to work with The Bat! this file doesn't have any README, HELP, TUTORIAL, nothing. the plugin comes from: http://thebat.orgavision.de/zip/kav40119.zip - -- Cheers B R i a N S -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Defend your privacy, use PGP or GnuPG. iD8DBQFBdtyTp/MIcGtkTEURAoUQAJ44o89kA5+Chas/h+zGgqgh37ncPACdFJXG eQk5tYFJ/uf1QKGyeJ4aG2w= =ldR4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Hello Anthony, old message... AGA When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I AGA slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation, AGA like the message attached. Access violations then occur each time I try AGA to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB. Nothing is corrupted AGA and everything works fine after I restart the client. My reply... I would like to speak a little about operating system stability and the Bat!. The Bat is written in a very high level language that does not touch deep operating system problems. Since the Bat! only works on Windows machines, people really need to look to their OS before complaining. Microsoft Windows, all version, are, by nature, self corrupting. They store data incorrectly, never clean themselves up and work off a registry that is not self correcting. I know this and say this because I worked for 16 years in Redmond Washington, for Microsoft. Engineers who work on windows all follow this simple rule: Every six months, backup your important data, not the programs, and reformat the hard drive, and reinstall windows. Then reinstall the programs and copy back the data. I have done this ever since windows 95, and have never had any problems with programs giving Access Violations. The Bat! has always worked well for me. It has been tough to learn, and I wish they would document, but the program, now at version 3.02.1 works flawlessly. So, before you jump on the instability of The Bat!, backup, reformat and reinstall. You will be amazed at the speed of your new machine and how stable it is. Every six months...I am not kidding. Personal note: for me, it takes about 6 hours every six months. I keep my music and pictures on multiple removable drives so that they are always backed up. I format it, and reinstall, which takes about an hour, then I reinstall the programs I need, not everything I have. Every six months, and I have two very stable windows machines. -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: IMAP messages disappear.
Hello Michael, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 1:28:42 PM, you wrote: MA Ok, have you tried the Folder/Purge+Compress? Yes, I did. I even tried to delete account, leave files behind and recreate account againTB remembered settings but I did not want to delete all setting, templates and mail. -- Best regards, VictorDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 19 Total Clean Emails: 1046 BayesIT guessed right 99.684211% of the time My email is 1.784038% spam = Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Michael Wilson [MLW], wrote: AGA When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I AGA slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation, AGA like the message attached. Access violations then occur each time I try AGA to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB. Nothing is corrupted AGA and everything works fine after I restart the client. MLW My reply... ...snip (I couldn't bear to repeat it) What! ??? You're having us on right? ,- [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_violation ] | An access violation occurs when a process attempts to access a portion | of memory assigned to another application, or an unused memory area, | without having permission to do so. It is typically the result of a | computer bug, for example a wrong pointer. In the popular C | programming language, the most frequent cause for access violations is | the use of a pointer that has been set to the NULL value, that is, | zero. This addressing is always reserved by the operating system, and | it is handled as a sure symptom of a serious programming error. `- -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 People are always blaming circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get ahead in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them , make them. GEORGE BERNARD SHAW ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.1.33 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: IMAP messages disappear.
Victorde [V], wrote: MA Ok, have you tried the Folder/Purge+Compress? V Yes, I did. I even tried to delete account, leave files behind and V recreate account againTB remembered settings but I did not want to V delete all setting, templates and mail. Try clearing the local cache... right-click on the folder and select properties. Then for good measure, exit TB! and restart. Also, in Account Settings use compress folder when changing folders. I've had similar problems in the past that may be caused by a damaged message base. You can use the maintenance centre to repair a folder but I only recommend working on one IMAP folder at a time. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 One sees great things from the valley; only small things from the peak. G K CHESTERTON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.1.33 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Determiing Reply Type in Macros
Hallo MFPA, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:58:00 +0100GMT (20-10-2004, 20:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 'Reply to all' is likely to have more addressees, so you could check for those. M If I select reply for your message I generate an email to Roelof M Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] with nothing in CC: or BCC:. M If I select reply to all I generate an email to Roelof Otten M [EMAIL PROTECTED] with CC: to Bill McQuillan M [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Yes, that's more or less what I said, isn't it? Or are you making a point that I don't get? -- Groetjes, Roelof A vote on the tally sheet is worth two in the box. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpqwZZfqcokK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Hallo Anthony, On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:14:48 +0200GMT (20-10-2004, 21:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AGA When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I AGA slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation, AGA like the message attached. What happens when you try to move the filter with the up and down arrows in the toolbar? -- Groetjes, Roelof Unbelief in one thing springs = blind belief in another. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp07meVGtZIj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
On Wed 20-Oct-04 2:51pm -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this bug with the same version that you have right now I suggest you to upgrade to a more recent version of TB! He has the latest version of TB! I certainly wouldn't recommend that buggy beta to anyone not on the beta list - I've tested it, written a bug report and, like many others, backed off to the release version. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message flags icons
Hello Anne, On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 13:54:23, Anne wrote: Or you could set an Unread Messages display shortcut. I have this set to Ctrl+# for Show Only Unread Messages and then I use the preset shortcut Ctrl+= to show all messages if I want to see everything. Again, thanks for a good tip and thanks in general for your advice on this list! I think many people appreciate your effort here. However, I still think this is a UI design flaw. Nothing fatal but annoying. It could just have been done better. Roman -- Take it easy, don't let the sound of your own wheels make you crazy. -- Eagles Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More than six accounts: check fails over six
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2004-Oct-20 5:24:54 PM More than six accounts: check fails over six mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ALthough I do believe it's something to do with port limits or something in WinXP Windows XP SP2 limits outgoing connection to 10, so this may also be your problem. Search the Internet for Windows XP SP2 Connection limit and you'll find a work-around. - -- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQXb+E4WxIhrNzBDyEQLfiACgx52+6Wg2tGcDafamWh5mv1aKBCAAnRrH DKsoxTZ6IHiwbRl3+6TQHfj+ =ynRF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Roelof Otten writes: What happens when you try to move the filter with the up and down arrows in the toolbar? I haven't tried it. Next time I'll try that and see what happens. I don't create new rules very often. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgpkq9UqbKiHU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Michael L. Wilson writes: I would like to speak a little about operating system stability and the Bat!. The Bat is written in a very high level language that does not touch deep operating system problems. Since the Bat! only works on Windows machines, people really need to look to their OS before complaining. It's not the operating system. The Bat! has always worked well for me. It has been tough to learn, and I wish they would document, but the program, now at version 3.02.1 works flawlessly. The program works well enough for me, also, which is why I use it. It does have bugs, though--too many to make it successful as a mass-market or enterprise product. The lack of documentation and support also effectively excludes it from enterprise implementations (few corporations would be willing to roll a program like this out to 40,000 desktops--it would be a support nightmare). So, before you jump on the instability of The Bat!, backup, reformat and reinstall. You will be amazed at the speed of your new machine and how stable it is. Every six months...I am not kidding. You may not be kidding, but the suggestion is nevertheless unreasonable and unwarranted. The OS is not the source of the access violations. I have _never_ done backups, reformats, and reinstallations to fix problems--even for OS problems, it's almost never necessary, especially with today's operating systems. Every six months, and I have two very stable windows machines. I've had stable Windows machines for a decade, and they've never been reinstalled or reformatted. I back them up regularly, of course, as I would any system, but I've never experienced any problem that required restoring from backup, either. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgpVdfY5sSCRG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
