Re: address book gone?
Yes, in Mulberry I'm not convinced about that at this stage, Roelof. Tony has posted a number of messages testing his IMAP accounts in TBBETA using Mulberry that have failed to thread properly while other people using the prog have not had problems. I've switched from TB to Mulberry to post this - let's have a look at the headers when it appears on the list. Regards -- Clive Taylor Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcuts
ON Monday, May 16, 2005, 11:08:21 PM, you wrote: MB A new system is in place. The editor is in View/Toolbars/Customise. MB You may need a little help dealing with it. What to do has been posted MB here a time or two, I think, as well as on tbbeta. MB In case of difficulty, post further questions. ;) Hi Mary, Thanks I found it and after some thinking even figured out how to get my most wanted shortcut back. I think it is clear that we can strike The natural e-mail program from the advertising campaign though :( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eat right. Exercise. Die Anyway. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Glyphs has black background
Hello Chris, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 12:36:09 AM, you wrote: I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 9000. Changing drivers is sadly not possible since Dell provides me with just these drivers :) (and they are old). http://www.ati.com/ A bit OT but anyway ;) https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1173 -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Correct settings for GMX IMAP?
Ralph, On 17-05-2005 07:19, you [RI] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RI I used GMX IMAP before but always had a lot of messages with RI identical bodies... That bug should be fixed... -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.5 and Shortcuts
Hallo Ian, On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:56 +1000GMT (17-5-2005, 5:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IAW I used to have a shortcut Ctrl+Alt+K to mark messages that are parked IAW with a colour group. Currently the new customizing model doesn't allow for color groups, view modes and quick templates to be triggered with a shortcut. However, you're lucky, as it is possible to assign color groups with a filter action and you still can assign shortcuts to a filter (at the options tab of that filter). So I suggest you follow that path. -- Groetjes, Roelof When I was a boy, when Fortran was only Twotran The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpCsWYvcSkay.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: address book gone?
Hallo Clive, On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:07:26 +0100GMT (17-5-2005, 8:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Yes, in Mulberry CT I'm not convinced about that at this stage, Roelof. Tony has posted a CT number of messages testing his IMAP accounts in TBBETA using Mulberry that CT have failed to thread properly while other people using the prog have not CT had problems. I've switched from TB to Mulberry to post this - let's have a CT look at the headers when it appears on the list. So your headers are fine. Nevertheless, Tony's aren't. And since his headers were fine with TB, it's unlikely that he has a third party tool running that 'fixes' his headers. All leads to the conclusion that it's Tony's Mulberry. Whether it is a setting or a faulty program file, it clearly is a bug when a program headers specially for threading, but makes them in such a way that they don't work, because they're not following the proper RFC. It's a rotten discussion trick, but I really think this is off topic for tbudl or tbbeta, since it concerns a different mail client and the flow is heavy enough as it is. So I'm crossposting this to tbot and replies on tbudl will invoke my moderator's wrath. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof I can resist everything except temptation. The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpBf5KdXRn2s.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.5 and Shortcuts
Hallo Ian, On Tue, 17 May 2005 17:58:26 +1000GMT (17-5-2005, 9:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IAW Interestingly I set the condition to check if the message attribute is IAW Parked, but it seems to make no difference. Not to worry, it does what IAW I need! There is an additional checkbox on the options tab, whether you want the message checked or not. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows '95 = Mac O/S '84 The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpLOMSP2KmRz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: address book gone?
Hello Clive. --On 16 May 2005 22:25 +0100 you wrote about Re: address book gone?: As is your threading (re our exchange in TBBETA). Weird. So are you saying in TBUDL my threading is OK and all to cock just in TBBETA? -- Tony. M. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: address book gone?
Hello Tony, just now (on 05/17/2005 at 10:24) you dropped the lines: So are you saying in TBUDL my threading is OK and all to cock just in TBBETA? Fire up TB! and see yourself. ;-) -- Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: address book gone?
Hello Clive. --On 17 May 2005 07:07 +0100 you wrote about Re: address book gone?: Tony has posted a number of messages testing his IMAP accounts in TBBETA using Mulberry that have failed to thread properly while other people using the prog have not had problems. Lot's of people get cascading AV's when using The Bat! I myself and most others do not so that's that theory gone. I don't know what to try. I've tried completely uninstalling, I've tried earlier non beta versions and I still can't get it to work. I'm waiting to see what Mulberry support has to say about it. -- Tony. M. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.5: View | Toolbars | Customization Bug and Missing Items
Hello Bill, If there was significant testing of the keyboard shortcuts, then either the testers missed some obvious flaws or Ritlabs ignored their suggestions. There was a lot of testing on many issues as , in a way, you could say that TB was turned upside down. It just happens that Customise is not finished or complete yet. Now, if they should have released this new version without this new feature being fully completed is another question. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: address book gone?
Hello Peter, Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:30:56 PM, you wrote: Jurgen, On 16-05-2005 19:59, you [JH] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JH after installing 3.5, my two address books were gone, there was just JH a new generic one with a single address, ritlabs. Did that happen JH only to me, or is the 'standard procedure'? No problem here. hmmm that's weird. It happened on my side as well as on my g/f's side. I haven't joined this Beta cycle, upgraded straight from the last 3.x version. -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: Hey it compiles! Let's ship it! Using The Bat! v3.5, Opera v8.00.7561 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpjMyPLUVCYy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Glyphs has black background
Fredrik Bergström @ 2005-May-17 2:15:37 AM Glyphs has black background mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 9000. http://www.ati.com/ A bit OT but anyway ;) https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1173 I see. Oh well. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Same difference pgpiSZMOusVg3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unthread
Is there any way to break a thread using the GUI? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Extinct Life pgpTOwcnnG1U8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unthread
Hello Chris, Is there any way to break a thread using the GUI? Yes, Ctrl+click on the message and drag out of the thread. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 3.5: View | Toolbars | Customization Bug and Missing Items
Hello Bill, If there was significant testing of the keyboard shortcuts, then either the testers missed some obvious flaws or Ritlabs ignored their suggestions. The problem was not missing or being ignored. The problem is with the difference in the architecture between the old interface and the new one. I won't go into depth, though. I'm sincerely sorry that the customised shortcuts from older versions were lost and I miss them too. We are still thinking of the elegant way to make the shortcut system at least not worse than it was before, but it takes time to find a viable solution... -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: address book gone?
Hi Jurgen, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 5:47:32 AM, you wrote: JH I haven't joined this Beta cycle, upgraded straight from the last JH 3.x version. I doubt the fact that you went from the last official version to version 3.5 is the issue because I did the same and have had no problems here. I have been reading TBBeta faithfully but I did NOT install any of the interim releases before installing 3.5. Good luck in finding the real cause and/or in resolving your issue. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Hi Allie and list, On Monday, May 16, 2005 at 05:58:20 GMT -0500 (which was 12:58 where I live) Allie Martin wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of TB! Memory Consumption: Mem Usage: 83,372K Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 VM Size: 76,108K Confirmed since RC1! There even exists a BT-Entry: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4531 Please add your comments. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.5, , and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows 2000 Pro 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: address book gone?
Hello Perry, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 2:30:32 PM, you wrote: Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 5:47:32 AM, you wrote: JH I haven't joined this Beta cycle, upgraded straight from the last JH 3.x version. I doubt the fact that you went from the last official version to version 3.5 is the issue because I did the same and have had no problems here. I have been reading TBBeta faithfully but I did NOT install any of the interim releases before installing 3.5. Good luck in finding the real cause and/or in resolving your issue. thanks. I have no clue what has happened, maybe it was because I had none that was named as they originally were called? Or maybe because it's a TB installation where two users share the same base? Well I found some address books that were a bit older but might have been even up-to-date. I don't change that much in them. Are there any themes or icon sets to download yet, somewhere? I checked out the german and the czech batpages but there was nothing. -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: Ich kann nicht tanzen, ich bin Deutscher Using The Bat! v3.5, Opera v8.00.7561 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpp1yhZjaz15.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another alternate Glyph for v3.5 available (Small Edition)
Hello All, If you managed the symbol size via the 'Batskin.xml', there is the unpleasant effect which unsightly blurredly represents the Icons. This circumstance made a further version of the Minimal Design necessary. The SMALL Edition contains smaller symbols [1], which was optimized for a monitor solution of 640x480 pixel. Now, the icons are also represented clearly from the menu bar [2]. This version was also tested for bugs on Windows 98/Windows 2000 and Windows XP. See Screenshots [1],[2]+[3] If you would like to try them, please take a look at the readme file before installing the icon set. enjoy... ;) Preview: http://bat-mail.de.vu/minimal.html Download [28 KB]: http://thebat.orgavision.de/zip/minimal_batskin_SMALL_v335.zip -- best regards Miroslav Attachments / Dateianlagen: --- [1] minimal_small_vs_big.gif (8,91 KB) [2] minimal_small_menu.gif (6,38 KB) [3] GUI http://bat-mail.de.vu/samples/minimal_big_vs_small.gif (25 KB) BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hi, ,- - [ Le lundi 16 mai 2005 vers 14:17 Roelof Otten écrivait: ] - - | moderator on Please keep your entire signature under your signature delimiter. TB does not recognise two signature delimiter, and there is already one added by the add, so it does'nt change anything... but if you want... I realize that several ISPs and employers have those added by their SMTP server, if that's the case you can keep them from appearing in your message body by signing the message with PGP/MIME or S/MIME or by I would like to sign my messages using S/MIME, but TB does not recognize my official/legal certificate :( But it will not change anything, the add is imposed by internal rules. | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Best regards... _ (_' ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: address book gone?
Hi Jurgen, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 8:46:57 AM, you wrote: JH I have no clue what has happened, maybe it was because I had none JH that was named as they originally were called? Or maybe because it's JH a TB installation where two users share the same base? The two conditions I've quoted above are different than my installation. My primary address book was the default name, Personal Address Book, and I have 5 sub groups under it that were preserved. And I am the only user on this system. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: looking for a mass-mailing makro
Jurgen, On 17-05-2005 15:26, you [JH] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JH Is there a makro running on some helpful soul's PC that I could use? JH Something like reading the recipients from an external list and then JH sending independent mails to each recipient or so? You could make a new address book (group), import all your addresses into it and then make a quick template to use for the mass mailing. Then, in the address book, focus on the relevant book (group) and select File New mass mailing from template... -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: looking for a mass-mailing makro
Hello Peter, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 3:31:27 PM, you wrote: JH Something like reading the recipients from an external list and then JH sending independent mails to each recipient or so? You could make a new address book (group), import all your addresses into it and then make a quick template to use for the mass mailing. Then, in the address book, focus on the relevant book (group) and select File New mass mailing from template... I will try that out when I get to work, thanks for the tip! -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: In Europe you have watches but in Africa we have time Using The Bat! v3.5, Opera v8.00.7561 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpMy0duV1pd4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
My Bat Keeps Dying
Hello Group I have just installed 3.5 pro over my previous 3.0 pro. When collecting mail TB! died, three times, no warnings/errors just disappeared off the screen. I went in to check by webmail and found some spam which I deleted off the server and TB! was fine after that. It seems odd behaviour though, what could be in spam email to kill TB!? Is there a log file I can check or is it possible to turn logging on so I can keep an eye on it? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: looking for a mass-mailing makro
Hi Jurgen, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 9:43:48 AM, you wrote: JH Something like reading the recipients from an external list and JH then sending independent mails to each recipient or so? PF You could make a new address book (group), import all your PF addresses into it and then make a quick template to use for the PF mass mailing. PF Then, in the address book, focus on the relevant book (group) and PF select File - New mass mailing from template... JH I will try that out when I get to work, thanks for the tip! It appears today is my day to reply to messages from you, Jurgen. ;) I do exactly what Peter recommends for the mass mailings I send out intermittently to a large group of my friends. Each receives an individual copy of the same message. The template I use for the mass mailings follows. As you'll see it is very rudimentary and I'm sure not very sophisticated, but it works and it may help you get started with something more elegant. ,--- ( My QT for mass mailings ) | Hi %ABToFirstName, | %SUBJECT='%PUT=c:\Notes\MassMail\subj.txt' | %PUT=c:\Notes\MassMail\current.txt | -- | Regards, | Perry `--- You'll note that it requires two text files: one called subj.txt that is merely a one-line subject and the other called current.txt that contains the body of the message that is sent. The path to those files would have to be tailored to your own situation, of course. HTH -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Hello Stephane, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 7:02:53 AM, you wrote: S I would like to sign my messages using S/MIME, but TB does not S recognize my official/legal certificate :( But it will not change S anything, the add is imposed by internal rules. We understand your plight. With regards to this rule on the lists, we have in the past, and will continue to do so, make exceptions for people who have no choice in the matter. Don't worry about it. Now that we know where the ad is coming from you aren't going to be penalized for it. However, (you knew that was coming didn't you! grin), to address your S/MIME issue. I'm not quite sure what the exact problem is, but if you'd like you can get a free personal e-mail certificate from www.thawte.com or at least you used to be able to. Those are known to be just fine for use in TB. I don't quite recall the URL off the top of my head but someone wrote a very nice tutorial detailing the process step by step. I'm sure someone will chime in with it here shortly. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: You know you're getting old when you stop to tie your shoes and wonder what else you can do while you're down there. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: looking for a mass-mailing makro
Hello Perry, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 4:03:39 PM, you wrote: It appears today is my day to reply to messages from you, Jurgen. ;) well I have no objections to that ;-) As you'll see it is very rudimentary and I'm sure not very sophisticated, but it works and it may help you get started with something more elegant. thank you for the little macro. I will try it out and when it works I might actually try to adjust it a bit to my needs. -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/24/us_security_fiasco/ Using The Bat! v3.5, Opera v8.00.7561 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpEfnO19AMTO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)
Leif wrote on Dienstag, 17. Mai 2005, 16:37: However, (you knew that was coming didn't you! grin), to address your S/MIME issue. I'm not quite sure what the exact problem is, but if you'd like you can get a free personal e-mail certificate from www.thawte.com or at least you used to be able to. Those certificates are stil free - i ordered mine a few days ago. Should you use Opera 8.0 as your browser, switch it's identifier to Mozilla and everything should work fine (according to their customer support)... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My Bat Keeps Dying
Hello Jeff, Is there a log file I can check or is it possible to turn logging on so I can keep an eye on it? On the main menu select Account/View log. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unthread
Hello MAU everyone else, on 17-Mai-2005 at 13:44 you (MAU) wrote: Is there any way to break a thread using the GUI? Yes, Ctrl+click on the message and drag out of the thread. Its Shift+Click here. :-) Whew. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Finagle's First Law: If an experiment works, something has gone wrong. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unthread
Hello MAU everyone else, on 17-Mai-2005 at 13:44 you (MAU) wrote: Hello Chris, Is there any way to break a thread using the GUI? Yes, Ctrl+click on the message and drag out of the thread. Seems like I'm only able to attach the messages to another thread, but not unthread them (break a thread) at a certain level. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I suspect that most of us get old without growing up, and that inside every adult (sometimes not very far inside) is a bratty kid who wants everything his own way. (Bill Watterson) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My Bat Keeps Dying
Hallo Jeff, On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:09:54 +0100GMT (17-5-2005, 16:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG It seems odd behaviour though, what could be in spam email to kill JG TB!? Maybe it's some interaction with your spamkiller? (just guessing) Are you using that the rest of us doesn't? -- Groetjes, Roelof Everyone IS entitled to my opinion. The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpXNVfGpZW15.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Where to download ETOken software ?
Hi, I would like to know where to download Aladdin EToken drivers and software ? Greetings, -- Claude Renaud Skype : Name : renaud_claude Number : 0870445179 Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: My Bat Keeps Dying
Hello Group On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 6:13:49 PM, Roelof wrote: Hallo Jeff, On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:09:54 +0100GMT (17-5-2005, 16:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG It seems odd behaviour though, what could be in spam email to kill JG TB!? Maybe it's some interaction with your spamkiller? (just guessing) Are you using that the rest of us doesn't? I am using the Bayesit plugin, for the first time admittedly. I have looked at the logs but there seems nothing untoward, I suspect TB! fell over too quickly to log anything. I'll keep an eye on the group for any similar reports. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unthread
Hello Alexander, Is there any way to break a thread using the GUI? Yes, Ctrl+click on the message and drag out of the thread. Its Shift+Click here. :-) Whew. It's Shift+Click everywhere. I don't know why I wrote Ctrl, sorry. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where to download ETOken software ?
Hello Claude, I would like to know where to download Aladdin EToken drivers and software ? .-[ quote ]- | | Those who will be using eToken version of The Bat!, please update the | RTE (Aladdin Drivers) to v3.60: | ftp://ftp.ealaddin.com/pub/etoken/enterprise/RTE_3_60.msi | | eToken - http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/etoken/TokenMgrSetup.exe | iKey - http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/ikey1000/TokenMgrSetup.exe | '--- -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Search feature
I may have found a bug. I was in this forum and did a search for Steve Lee in the new Search field (vain aren't I?) and that worked great so I could find all messages to and from me. Unfortunately I could not then look at all other messages without leaving the program and coming back in. I tried clearing the filed then hitting return and then tried entering a * but it just insisted on just displaying my messages. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Threading
This can be done by change message list column settings. I do not see List Column under the Message dialog. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?
Did you se my message to you yesterday on which I explained how to set up Space and Return as shortcuts to mark as read and move to next unread? No I missed it first time round. Thank you for digging it out again for me. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search feature
Dear Steve, @17-May-2005, 20:29 Steve Lee [SL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SL I may have found a bug. Not this time ;-). ... snip SL I tried clearing the filed then hitting return and then tried entering SL a * but it just insisted on just displaying my messages. You can clear the imposed filter in one of three ways: 1) Press Esc 2) Press Ctrl+= 3) View ... Display ... All messages -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpkcfTxQakTz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: Threading
Hello Steve, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 10:20:48 PM, you wrote: I do not see List Column under the Message dialog. It's in the View|Message List Columns -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My Bat Keeps Dying
Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 17-Mai-2005 at 20:02 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: I am using the Bayesit plugin, for the first time admittedly. I'd suggest you remove BayesIt to see if it works then. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Threading
This can be done by change message list column settings. Got it thank you. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Undelete? Used for...?
Hello List, Does anybody know what the item undelete (found in Customise dialog, branch MessageListViewer in the left pane) is used for? Tried to bring back from the trash messages I deleted, but that did not work. -- Martin Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello ms, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 11:11:18 PM, you wrote: Does anybody know what the item undelete (found in Customise dialog, branch MessageListViewer in the left pane) is used for? Currently, it's used only in the browser of deleted messages. It is possible, we will make it possible to browse deleted messages in normal message lists (i.e. in main window and separate folder browser) together with alive messages. :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello ms, Does anybody know what the item undelete (found in Customise dialog, branch MessageListViewer in the left pane) is used for? Tried to bring back from the trash messages I deleted, but that did not work. When you delete messages let's say in folder A, before you purge compress it, you can select folder A and the from main menu you can do Folder/Browse deleted messages (also from folder RMB menu). Then, a folder window open showing you the deleted messages that you can then Undelete. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello MAU, Does anybody know what the item undelete (found in Customise dialog, branch MessageListViewer in the left pane) is used for? Tried to bring back from the trash messages I deleted, but that did not work. When you delete messages let's say in folder A, before you purge compress it, you can select folder A and the from main menu you can do Folder/Browse deleted messages (also from folder RMB menu). Then, a folder window open showing you the deleted messages that you can then Undelete. Thanks for showing me another great feature of TB! that I did not discover yet! I was just confused, because I put Undelete as a Toolbar-Word-Button into the main toolbar and it was not grayed out in the normal list, but had no effect either. But I don't think this is worth a bug report. -- Martin Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! Memory Consumption
Hello Martin, On 16 May 2005, 19:48 you wrote: TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: thebat.exe Mem Usage: 83,372K Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 VM Size: 76,108K Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? Yes, very similar. Memory usage was around 150M after twenty hours or so. After a restart it's back to 30M. I'm using a single IMAP account and the Avast plug-in. I've been monitoring this over the past couple of days and reckon it's linked to browsing messages. I'm certainly confident it's not caused by receiving messages; an increase in memory usage only occurs if I'm actively using TB!, i.e. viewing messages. Memory usage didn't increase over an eight hour period while I was away from my desk. TB! was checking for mail every minute: a tad under 1,000 messages received. Try this. Restart TB! and note memory usage. Now browse your messages with PTV or RTV and you'll see memory usage increase (just keep clicking on messages.) Every time I choose another message or folder the memory footprint grows. The RTV has the added problem that messages larger than about 1M consume heaps of memory. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 One of the greatest pains to human nature is the pain of a new idea. WALTER BAGEHOT, 1826 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello Stefan, On 17 May 2005, 22:06 you wrote: Does anybody know what the item undelete (found in Customise dialog, branch MessageListViewer in the left pane) is used for? Currently, it's used only in the browser of deleted messages. It is possible, we will make it possible to browse deleted messages in normal message lists (i.e. in main window and separate folder browser) together with alive messages. :-) Does this mean that deleted messages will be visible in the main window and identified by strikeout text? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The Golden Rule is that there is no golden rule. GEORGE BERNARD SHAW ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC9 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello Martin, Does this mean that deleted messages will be visible in the main window and identified by strikeout text? Yes, something like this... -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Proposal for spam filters
Dear Ritlab folks, In order to easily identify emails from this group trapped in our spam filters can all subject fields please be prefixed with [The Bat!] if you have control over the emailer software used? I would hate to accidentally report genuine emails as spam at Spamcop for instance. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Threading
Dear Stefan, I've added two more options to space bar reading today: Where would we download this version? Is that the beta version or the current live download? -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters
In order to easily identify emails from this group trapped in our spam filters can all subject fields please be prefixed with [The Bat!] if you have control over the emailer software used? Why can't you just sort on list email adresses?!? You can not rely on each user to insert a tag - it won't work! There would be no lasting standard unless list admin is deciding something. Relying on users to insert tags manually, would be to rely on a tag anarchy. Sort messages on (list) recipient: TBUDL = tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com TBBETA = tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com and so on. I understand your problem - I, too, got tired of the lack of proper subject tags that some mailing lists have. I just designed a plug-in for my TB featuring a bunch of *very* useful things (ie. a *terrific* anti-spam system). One feture I eventually added was one that inserts the correct subject tag for any mailing list (TBUDL, TBBTEA, etc.). It works perfect, and it looks GOOD, too! :) (It even converts improper subject tags into proper subject tags if I am not happy with the ones provided! ;). Like I said, you can not rely on each user to insert a tag. You must do it yourself unless the list admin fixes it. I would hate to accidentally report genuine emails as spam at Spamcop for instance. Hmmm... -- St Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[The Bat!] Tree folder oddity
Is it just me or is the left-hand folder view behaving oddly. I mean when it is opened so that folder tree is longer vertically than the pane and the scroll bar comes into operation (or not). It isreally difficult to put into words what is happening but the scroll bar action - like clicking in the empty scroll bar space / dragging the bar up and down is just not behaving as it does normally. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.5 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat!] Tree folder oddity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2005-May-17 7:58:04 PM [The Bat!] Tree folder oddity mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It [is really] difficult to put into words what is happening but the scroll bar action - like clicking in the empty scroll bar space / dragging the bar up and down is just not behaving as it does normally. The only oddity I have noticed it that if you click below (on the vertical scroll bar) or right (on the horizontal scroll bar) of the grab bar, it will scroll too far. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Save the whales. Collect the whole set. pgpRcWsxbgB6a.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Steve Lee wrote: SL In order to easily identify emails from this group trapped in our SL spam filters can all subject fields please be prefixed with [The SL Bat!] if you have control over the emailer software used? Please, no. IMO it's a waste of horizontal space. There are plenty of headers that can be used to positively identify list mails. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters
On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 19:47:07, St - Musaic.Net wrote: I just designed a plug-in for my TB featuring a bunch of *very* useful things (ie. a *terrific* anti-spam system). One feture I eventually added was one that inserts the correct subject tag for any mailing list (TBUDL, TBBTEA, etc.). It works perfect, and it looks GOOD, too! :) (It even converts improper subject tags into proper subject tags if I am not happy with the ones provided! ;). Neat. Can you post it somewhere? With it's source maybe? Regards, Roman -- LA is like several thousand square miles of American Express junk mail, but without the same sense of moral depth. -- Douglas Adams Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Low Quality Address Book Icons
Does anyone else notice that the Address Book icons (in the left-hand column) are a low quality when using the default theme? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. pgpYy1OBQeDA4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters
Hello Roman. --On 17 May 2005 21:26 -0400 you wrote about Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters: Neat. Can you post it somewhere? With it's source maybe? Gordon Bennett. Everyone's going to be using it now. Subject lines full of quirky little anecdotes enclosed in square brackets. I'm with Wham on this one, there are enough headers to filter on. And if it ain't spam it shouldn't get classified as such. Truth is only one in a million posts to any of these bat lists, including the Yahoo group is spam. And even then it's normally a genuine mistake on a list members part so why the need to filter for spam at all? In any case, I'm pretty sure Steve wasn't being 100% serious... Was you Steve? -- Tony. M. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
