Re: TB! and MS Exchange

2005-12-27 Thread Tom Plunket
Robin Anson wrote:

> That would be very useful since I currently have to run Outlook to
> connect to the MS Exchange server at work.

I tried using TB with Exchange and didn't have a very good time with
it.  Email handling was fine, but I didn't find any way to integrate
with the other Outlook features that are so useful in an office
environment, notably the calendar and the auto-address stuff (e.g. I
type in "tom" and hit tab and "Tom Plunket" appears in the To: field.)

I didn't figure this was functionality that was reasonable to ask for
in TB, and since 99% of my email needs at work are internal, I just
use Outlook.

Sorry this isn't very helpful, but it is my experience.  Simply put,
TB! doesn't do (afaik) some of the things that I find "key features"
in Outlook wrt intra-office email.

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Re: [bug] Problem with reply to a windows-1258 charset message

2005-12-27 Thread Tom Plunket
Stephane Bouvard [ML] wrote:

> I join with this mail a really little example, just try : open it
> in TheBat! and try to reply...

Open what?

The only attachment is this "part.txt" which is the list signature
lines.


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Re: Anti-spam system recommendations

2005-12-27 Thread Tom Plunket
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

>> 0spam.com only requires that you tell it what your mailing lists are, the
>> rest is automatic if you so desire. Just fwiw. The fact is that the
>> fastest way to deal with spam is to simply not download it in the first
>> place. Also the fact that you don't need to run any software on your
>> computer whatsoever, and, well, yeah.

> I understand the concept but I don't feel comfortable when yet another
> party enters my email conversations.

An arbitrary number of machines handle your email between point A and
point B, and one that does something that benefits you is drawn into
question?  (FWIW, as with all truly useful software, it is also
configurable to some degree.  I didn't want folks to have to respond
to a challenge email so turned that part off.  Still, the whitelisting
means I get zero spam messages in my email client.)

>> To me that was one of the beauties of PopFile when I started using it
>> 3+ years ago.

> Same here, but PopFile is so awkwardly slow and consumes a sh*tload of
> system resources. I could do my PF classifications with TBs filters just as
> well.

Huh, never noticed compared to the other apps I run.  :-|


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Re: Temporary suspension of delivery

2005-12-27 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:48:00 -0600GMT (28-12-2005, 2:48 +0200, where I
live), Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

> How do I temporarily stop delivery of messages from the list? I'll be
> going out of town for a while and would rather not have my ISP's
> server fill up with my messages.

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Re: Backups with TB pro encrypted?

2005-12-27 Thread Chris

Darrin @ 12/27/2005 10:20:47 PM
"Backups with TB pro encrypted?" 

> I use thebat pro with OTFE and I make backups about once a week with
> thebat. Are my backups by themselves encrypted? Can anyone who can
> get ahold of my backups view the emails?

If you password-protect the backup, then the backup is encrypted.

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Backups with TB pro encrypted?

2005-12-27 Thread Darrin
Hello friends,

I use thebat pro with OTFE and I make backups about once a week with thebat. 
Are my backups by
themselves encrypted? Can anyone who can get ahold of my backups view
the emails?



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still problems with Cyrillic

2005-12-27 Thread Robert D.
I have been discussing not being able to get Cyrillic to copy to my emails, 
with Mica. He sent me, as an example:

Íàäååìñÿ, ÷òî â áóäóùåì ãîäó âû îñòàíåòåñü ñ íàìè. À ÷òîáû âàøè æåëàíèÿ
îáÿçàòåëüíî ñáûëèñü, îòïðàâüòå èõ Äåäó Ìîðîçó!



And that was in Cyrillic in the email from Mica. I have the charset to KOI8-r 
right now and see it in the rfc822 headers when I put it in the outbox.

I see the cyrillic in Mica's email but when I hit *reply* they appear as seen, 
by me anyway, as garbage up above these lines here.

I have the language pack FWIW.

What other settings?  I have tried Rich Text, HTML and the usual, plain-text I 
normally use.



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Re[2]: Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Roland,

Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 10:37:40 AM, you wrote:

Roland> Hi Darrin,

Roland> on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 16:04 you wrote in message
Roland> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roland> among others:


RB>>> is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if 
yes, how?
>> Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could
>> probably just export it as that format then import it to tbat.

Roland> I don't find in Thunderbird any possibilities to export something!

It is possible to export from TB and import to Bat.

 I used Thunderbird and some months ago converted all folders and
addressbook to the Bat. I am not sure exactly how I did, but remember
that each folder I had to export and convert to Unix format, than
imported to Bat.

I think the Address Book I exported as comma delimited file
transferred to an Excel spreadsheet and imported into Bat.

There could be simpler ways, I tried a number of other possibilities
but found this as the simplest. I ended up with some duplicates, but
Bat can handle this.

I am not sure anymore of all the details - should have made notes.

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Re: weird problem, keeps sorting folder wrong

2005-12-27 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 6:48:38 AM, you wrote:

awc> Hello everyone,

awc>  I'm on TB 3.62.14 (very experienced for 5 years now, so not a newbie)
awc>  but some of my folders keep mysterioiusly sorting by the name. Now
awc>  from time to time I will click on one of the labels and sort the
awc>  folder however, but it never STAYS that way. I have not done any
awc>  setting that I can think of to make it stay that way. But for
awc>  instance, last week, in inbox, it kept sorting alphabetical by
awc>  sender. I would click in the folder, resort so the most recent was at
awc>  the top, then I would click in another folder, go back to INBOX and
awc>  the darn thing was resorted back by sender. For some reason its not
awc>  doing it right now on that folder, but other folders are behaving
awc>  that way and I'm not sure how to fix it. (or what caused it)

awc>  Any ideas?



I vaguely remember the solution had been given in this list.

You right-click on the header row (From, Subject etc.), then
Left-click on No View Mode

You do this for each folder, so that the settings you use are
independent of other folders.


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Re: weird problem, keeps sorting folder wrong

2005-12-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Laura,

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:48:38 -0800GMT (27-12-2005, 20:48 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

A>  but some of my folders keep mysterioiusly sorting by the name. Now
A>  from time to time I will click on one of the labels and sort the
A>  folder however, but it never STAYS that way. I have not done any

Looks like you somehow changed the folder view mode associated with
that folder.
Change the folder vew mode or else create a new folder view mode and
associate that the necessary folders.

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weird problem, keeps sorting folder wrong

2005-12-27 Thread alists
Hello everyone,

 I'm on TB 3.62.14 (very experienced for 5 years now, so not a newbie)
 but some of my folders keep mysterioiusly sorting by the name. Now
 from time to time I will click on one of the labels and sort the
 folder however, but it never STAYS that way. I have not done any
 setting that I can think of to make it stay that way. But for
 instance, last week, in inbox, it kept sorting alphabetical by
 sender. I would click in the folder, resort so the most recent was at
 the top, then I would click in another folder, go back to INBOX and
 the darn thing was resorted back by sender. For some reason its not
 doing it right now on that folder, but other folders are behaving
 that way and I'm not sure how to fix it. (or what caused it)

 Any ideas?

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Re: Anti-spam system recommendations

2005-12-27 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Alexander,

Monday, December 26, 2005, 11:18:43 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Andre Wichartz & everyone else,

> on 26-Dez-2005 at 12:53 you (Andre Wichartz) wrote:

>> Two of the really really bad bugs affect tagging of messages found to be
>> spam: One is adding the header to the body area of a message, the
>> workaround beeing to have tb! search the whole message and not just the
>> header area, slowing the filtering process down.

> I've created a custom header field "X-Text-Classification" in TB and have
> the filter in TB look if that very header contains the word "spam". This
> works reliably ever since I started using K9 (I switched to K9 from
> PopFile, which uses the same X-Text-Classification header).

I'm not too familiar with the v3 filtering system but I think that
would only catch mails with the header in the right place not in the
body.

>> For the second there is no workaround cause to some messages K9 doesn't
>> add the header at all.

> Odd. I've never had that problem. The only thing I've noticed is that K9
> seems to stumble over "newer" headers like the very lengthy domainkeys - it
> did not affect my spam filtering however; the messages are just incorrectly
> displayed in K9's list of recent messages.

I have no problems with the gui. But I had two occurences of bug 2
yesterday and one of bug 1 today. So I experience them on two computers
with two different OS and after having installed K9 freshly on this
laptop and with fresh training. The funny thing is when I look at the
source of these messages I can't find anything special about them.

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Re[2]: Roguemoticons only good if others use the bat?

2005-12-27 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Eric,

Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 5:59:05 PM, Eric wrotened:

Darrin>>> If I use Roguemoticons, it wouldnt be of much use
Darrin>>> other than with other bat users. Is that a correct
Darrin>>> assumption?

BA>> Frankly yes. But then we are the only beautiful mail
BA>> users. So perhaps you  should  be  thankful  for that.
BA>> Basically I don't know of another mail program with that
BA>> functionallity.

Eric> There's Ameol.

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Re: Roguemoticons only good if others use the bat?

2005-12-27 Thread Eric
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:32:59 + GMT(26/12/2005, 07:32 + GMT), Ben Allen 
wrote:

BA> Monday, December 26, 2005, 7:13:10 AM, Darrin wrotened:

Darrin>> Hello friends,

Darrin>> If I use Roguemoticons, it wouldnt be of much use
Darrin>> other than with other bat users. Is that a correct
Darrin>> assumption?

BA> Frankly yes. But then we are the only beautiful mail
BA> users. So perhaps you  should  be  thankful  for that.
BA> Basically I don't know of another mail program with that
BA> functionallity.

There's Ameol.

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Re: Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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> is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and
> if yes, how?

Each mailer is able to export both, in at least one "universal" format:
UNIX mailbox (plain text with headers) as to mail, and as a text file
(*.txt), as to address books. Although, there are plenty other formats.

It is typically done by a "Save As" and/or "Export..." commands in the
source mailer, and by the "Import..." command in the target mailer,
where these features specific to the given program are listed.

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Re: Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Roland,

> I don't find in Thunderbird any possibilities to export something!

Thunderbird » Extras » Address Book » Extras » Export... (tab-delimited *.txt)

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Re: Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Roland Burger
Hi Darrin,

on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 16:04 you wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
among others:


RB>> is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if 
yes, how?
> Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could
> probably just export it as that format then import it to tbat.

I don't find in Thunderbird any possibilities to export something!

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Re: Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Darrin,

> Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could
> probably just export it as that format then import it to tbat.

the import from Thunderbird as CSV or LDIF file does not work correctly.
Export the address-book from Thunderbird as TXT file with comma separation.

With "Mbox2eml" the messages can be converted into the EML format, and
afterwards imported into TB!.

You can find it here: http://thebat.zetema.de/howto.html

Thunderbird » EML format
[37 KB] http://thebat.zetema.de/tools/Mbox2eml_DEU.zip

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Re: Scheduler stops working

2005-12-27 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Sunday 18 December 2005 at 6:38:55 PM, in
,
Luca wrote:


> For a series of reasons I'd prefer not to involve my POP server for the same
> account, my set of filters would get too complicated. I could set a bogus pop
> server to do the same operation without actually downloading email with the
> same account, but I should also disable the Windows sound that would bother me
> at each error, every five minutes :-)

Why use a bogus one that causes an error rather than a real one
that does not receive any mail?

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Re: Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Darrin
Hello Roland,

Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 5:52:12 AM, you wrote:

RB> is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if 
yes, how?
Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could
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Re: Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Roland,

Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 2:52:12 PM, you wrote:

RB> is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if 
yes, how?

Not that I know of. You could try this (Address Magic):

http://www.connectedsw.com/Overview/57262


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Import from Thunderbird

2005-12-27 Thread Roland Burger
Hi,

is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, 
how?

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