Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[George Mitchell]

Dwight Corrin wrote:

DC> On Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 3:37:30 PM, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

>> Why should I not move parked messages and keep the "Parked" flag?

DC> You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It
DC> would be like having a door locked and open it the same time.

I think what people, myself included, are looking for is something 
like the Agent newsreader's Keep flag which just prevents against 
accidental deletion/purging.  Just because I want to protect a message 
doesn't mean I don't want to organize it.  The Park flag is 
especially ill-suited for this as currently implemented.

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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Dwight Corrin]

On Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 3:37:30 PM, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

> Why should I not move parked messages and keep the "Parked" flag?

You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It
would be like having a door locked and open it the same time.

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Re: Moving parked messages

[Luc]

Good evening MFPA,  
  
It was foretold that on 18/03/2008 @ 00:46:38 GMT+ (which was
21:46:38 where I live) MFPA would write:



M> I thought he was referring to filing a wish on Bug Tracker
M> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/

Done as we speak :-)
 
 
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Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

[MFPA]

Hi

On Monday 17 March 2008 at 10:42:57 AM, in
, Grumpy Gamer
wrote:

> Does anyone know where the location of the anti-virus plugins in The
> Bat is? I have an errant plugin ("Generic DLL Plugin") listed in
> Options-AntiVirus (with a status of 'error') and I want to get rid of
> it if it isn't for an anti-virus I currently have installed.

I used to have that file but it disappeared all on its own when I
upgraded to v4.

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Re: Moving parked messages

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 18 March 2008 at 9:24:12 PM, in
, Volker Ahrendt wrote:


> So you really think that I should make even more "friends" on TBBeta
> Mailing List as I did in the past? ;-)

I thought he was referring to filing a wish on Bug Tracker
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/

It had never occurred to me that when you moved the parked message to
another folder, it would not be parked there. If I move my parked
car to another location, it is then parked in a new place.

Perhaps the pop-up could/should have a checkbox option to re-park
the messages after moving them.
 
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Re: Download manager

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Paul,
Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 1:52:03 PM, you wrote:

PB> Is there some way to turn off this download manager?

Remove the check mark from the box in the lower left corner that says "Show
this window automatically".

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Re: some questions

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 18 March 2008 at 4:48:24 PM, in
, Luc wrote:

>  When i have a parked message and i want to move it manually to
>  another folder, the message gets unparked in that folder.

I never noticed that before.

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Download manager

[Paul Berger]

Is there some way to turn off this download manager?


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Re: some questions

[Luc]

Good evening Volker,  
  
It was foretold that on 18/03/2008 @ 22:42:23 GMT+0100 (which was
18:42:23 where I live) Volker Ahrendt would write:



VA>  Now I get you.

Yeah, i thought that i didn't make myself clear (happens a lot, don't
worry about it lol)

VA>  No, I don't think that you can change the colors.
VA> Is it worth it to file a wish?

Oh no, it's not a big deal... but i thought it was possible in
previous versions of TB! but maybe i'm wrong (also happens a lot ;-) )
 
 
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Re: some questions

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Luc« · 2008-03-18 · 22:25 h (CET)]

Moin, Luc!

> VA> In message editor's menu uncheck: View|Original text

> Ah right, but that means that the preview disappears. I was wondering
> if there was a way to keep the preview but alter the background
> (colour and text colour).

OIC – Now I get you. No, I don't think that you can change the colors.
I was searching for a way, but found none.

Is it worth it to file a wish?

Cheers!
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WAS: moving parked messages

[Luc]

 Good evening list,

 First of all, tnx to all those who replied to my question.

 I must admit, i think it's not so much as a bug but more a "glitch"
 in the way the developers conceived the "parking" method.

 It makes sense to have messages being able to be parked when they
 arrive in your mailbox. But probably the designers overlooked the
 fact that users sometimes manually want to move parked messages and
 keep them parked.

 The way i go around this for the time being is that i mark them as
 unread and move them. That way i easily find them back and
 "shortcut" them as parked and read.
 
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Re: some questions

[Luc]

Good evening Volker,  
  
It was foretold that on 18/03/2008 @ 18:00:05 GMT+0100 (which was
14:00:05 where I live) Volker Ahrendt would write:



VA> In message editor's menu uncheck: View|Original text

Ah right, but that means that the preview disappears. I was wondering
if there was a way to keep the preview but alter the background
(colour and text colour).
 
 
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Re: Moving parked messages

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Stuart Cuddy« · 2008-03-18 · 21:50 h (CET)]

Moin, Stuart!

> I am with you on this one. It is often very difficult to find the
> parked message once you move it. I would also support the wish you
> are going to file. ;)

So you really think that I should make even more "friends" on TBBeta
Mailing List as I did in the past? ;-)

Cheers!
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Re: Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Volker,
Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 3:37:30 PM, you wrote:

VA> I bet it is working as designed, but I am not convinced that the
VA> design is completely user friendly:

VA> I sometimes move a bunch of messages (parked and unparked) from one
VA> folder to another. I confirm the warning and have to go through all
VA> the messages to find the ones which need to be parked again.

I am with you on this one. It is often very difficult to find the parked message
once you move it. I would also support the wish you are going to file. ;)

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Moving parked messages (was: some questions)

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Rick Grunwald« · 2008-03-18 · 18:13 h (CET)]

Moin, Rick!

>> AFAIK there is no option to keep the "Parked" status. Maybe a
>> filter could be a workaround, but I don't know how, yet. – I think
>> you should file a wish to Bugtracker. I would support. :-)

> Is not the purpose of parking a message to keep you from
> accidentally deleting or moving it.

Is it so? I don't know. Does "Parking" only mean to keep one from
deleting a message or does it mean to keep one from deleting *and*
moving a message? Why should I not move parked messages and keep the
"Parked" flag?

> I would think the work around would be to unpark it.

This is the status quo when moving a parked message and confirming
the warning.

> You get a message asking you if you really want to move a parked
> message and it will allow it. I think it is working as designed

I bet it is working as designed, but I am not convinced that the
design is completely user friendly:

I sometimes move a bunch of messages (parked and unparked) from one
folder to another. I confirm the warning and have to go through all
the messages to find the ones which need to be parked again.

Cheers!
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Re: some questions

[Rick Grunwald]

>>  Q2: When i have a parked message and i want to move it manually to
>>  another folder, the message gets unparked in that folder. Is there a
>>  way to have it kept parked? Or do i need to create some filter for
>>  that?

> AFAIK there is no option to keep the "Parked" status. Maybe a filter
> could be a workaround, but I don't know how, yet. – I think you
> should file a wish to Bugtracker. I would support. :-)

Is not the purpose of parking a message to keep you from accidentally
deleting or moving it. I would think the work around would be to
unpark it.

You get a message asking you if you really want to move a parked
message and it will allow it. I think it is working as designed
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Re: Configuration of URL Download Manager behind a proxy

[Philippe Macaire]

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Marek Mikus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  check Account log (Ctrl+Shift+A), where program logs communication with
>  mail and HTTP servers, so You can see if was image downloaded and if not,
>  what is the reason.

I tried, but I see no information whatsoever in the log.

Is it supposed to download images every time you access a message, or
does it download it just once, when you access it for the first time,
for instance?

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Re: some questions

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Luc« · 2008-03-18 · 17:48 h (CET)]

Moin, Luc!

>  Q1: when i reply to a message, the message that i reply to is shown
>  with a white background in the preview... where can i change that? I
>  thought somewhere in the editor settings but i just can't seem to
>  recall it.

In message editor's menu uncheck: View|Original text

>  Q2: When i have a parked message and i want to move it manually to
>  another folder, the message gets unparked in that folder. Is there a
>  way to have it kept parked? Or do i need to create some filter for
>  that?

AFAIK there is no option to keep the "Parked" status. Maybe a filter
could be a workaround, but I don't know how, yet. – I think you
should file a wish to Bugtracker. I would support. :-)

Cheers!
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some questions

[Luc]

 Good afternoon list,

 I have some questions regarding the preferences:

 Q1: when i reply to a message, the message that i reply to is shown
 with a white background in the preview... where can i change that? I
 thought somewhere in the editor settings but i just can't seem to
 recall it.

 Q2: When i have a parked message and i want to move it manually to
 another folder, the message gets unparked in that folder. Is there a
 way to have it kept parked? Or do i need to create some filter for
 that?
 
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Re: Configuration of URL Download Manager behind a proxy

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, March 18, 2008, Philippe Macaire wrote:

> but in no case TB did download the images in the mail.

check Account log (Ctrl+Shift+A), where program logs communication with
mail and HTTP servers, so You can see if was image downloaded and if not,
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Configuration of URL Download Manager behind a proxy

[Philippe Macaire]

Hi all,

I have to say that I was eager to try out V.4 's URL Download Manager
in order to have some well-chosen messages correctly displayed with
The Bat.

I may be missing something here but I can't manage to get it to work.
I'm using TB at work, where I'm behind a proxy, and this may be the
reason why it doesn't work. But let me explain my configuration.

I discovered a couple of years ago that in order to have the version
checker work from behind a proxy a urlmgr.xml file was to be created
in the default mail directory, containing


   


[it was a post from Marek]

and apparently it allowed me to check the version file.

This file has never changed since, and now I can see that this file
contains all the URL that I have declared as "allowed" or "blocked",
so I'm quite sure this is the right file.

Unfortunately it is the whole functionality of the Download Manager
which does not convince me since I tried:
* home (no proxy), with proxy disabled in the file
* at work (proxy), with proxy enabled, then disabled in the file

but in no case TB did download the images in the mail.

Is anybody enjoying a working Download Manager? What can I check to
diagnose the problem?


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