Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez,

am Samstag, 10. Oktober 2009 um 04:42 schrieben Sie:

 How do I import a new root certificate into TB!? I communicate with
 people who sign all their message by S/Mime but I cannot verify the
 sigs.

You need to watch the Details of the S/MIME Certificate, there you
might find the Name of the Certification Authority (for me it is
CaCERT). On the Website of the Authority you need to fetch the Root
Certificate (.crt) - this you can import in the Adressbook under
Certification Authorities beside Thawte for Example.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens,

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:50:08 +0200 GMT (10/Oct/09, 21:50 PM +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

 How do I import a new root certificate into TB!? I communicate with
 people who sign all their message by S/Mime but I cannot verify the
 sigs.

JF You need to watch the Details of the S/MIME Certificate, there you
JF might find the Name of the Certification Authority (for me it is
JF CaCERT).

Thanks, I just checked that. The cert authority in the email I am
referring to is called DOD EMAIL.

JF On the Website of the Authority you need to fetch the Root
JF Certificate (.crt) - this you can import in the Adressbook under
JF Certification Authorities beside Thawte for Example.

They don't seem to have it on their website. However, since I have
imported the cert successfully into IE on my office computer, I will
check on Monday whether I have a .crt file on that computer.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 10 October 2009 at 3:42:12 AM, in
mid:1809206101.20091010094...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas
Fernandez wrote:



 I see. But S/Mime is internal capability?

You have a choice of internal implementation or Microsoft CryptoAPI
which is set at Options | S/MIME


 How do I import a new root certificate into TB!? I
 communicate with people who sign all their message by
 S/Mime but I cannot verify the sigs. I went to the
 organisdation's server, and they offer a .msi file,
 which actually works for Internet Explorer and the
 secure websites are now certified, so the cert
 apparently resides somewhere in an IE directory.

No experience myself but maybe the solution given at reference 2.2 in 
the first post of 
http://ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=7101MID=27073phrase_id=1629356#message27073
 
will help? I think you need to be using the internal implementation.



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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, October 10, 2009, 17:38:22, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 They don't seem to have it on their website. However, since I have
 imported the cert successfully into IE on my office computer, I will
 check on Monday whether I have a .crt file on that computer.

Even if you don't, you can export the certificate from IE - go to
Certificates - Trusted root certification authorities, find the CA
there and export it.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez,

am Samstag, 10. Oktober 2009 um 17:38 schrieben Sie:

 The cert authority in the email I am
 referring to is called DOD EMAIL.

Resources: Installing DoD Root Certificates
from searching
http://www.google.de/#q=dod+email+root+certificatebtnG=Google-Suchemeta=aq=foq=dod+email+root+certificate
and watching
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/announcements/dodrootcertificates.html
i found it should be found here, but the Site does not load for me:
http://dodpki.c3pki.chamb.disa.mil/rootca.html
but they say:
For further assistance: DTIC Web site customers should contact r...@dtic.mil or 
(703) 767-8274.

Maybe you should eMail r...@dtic.mil and tell them to guide you to the
correct Website, where you can download the Root Certificate and see
the Fingerprints, because you have to compare the Fingerprints to be
sure this is the wanted Certificate.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jernej,

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:45:58 +0200 GMT (10/Oct/09, 22:45 PM +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:

 They don't seem to have it on their website. However, since I have
 imported the cert successfully into IE on my office computer, I will
 check on Monday whether I have a .crt file on that computer.

JS Even if you don't, you can export the certificate from IE - go to
JS Certificates - Trusted root certification authorities, find the CA
JS there and export it.

Thanks, I'll try that on Monday.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:43:21 +0100 GMT (10/Oct/09, 22:43 PM +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

 I see. But S/Mime is internal capability?

M You have a choice of internal implementation or Microsoft CryptoAPI
M which is set at Options | S/MIME

I never saw that before. What different does it make, and will it help
to solve the problem?

 How do I import a new root certificate into TB!? I
 communicate with people who sign all their message by
 S/Mime but I cannot verify the sigs. I went to the
 organisdation's server, and they offer a .msi file,
 which actually works for Internet Explorer and the
 secure websites are now certified, so the cert
 apparently resides somewhere in an IE directory.

M No experience myself but maybe the solution given at reference 2.2 in 
M the first post of 
M 
http://ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=7101MID=27073phrase_id=1629356#message27073
M will help? I think you need to be using the internal implementation.

Hey, this is a great link! I will try that on Monday.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 10 October 2009 at 4:53:12 PM, in
mid:1004758652.20091010175...@gmx.de, Jens Franik wrote:




 Resources: Installing DoD Root Certificates from
 searching
 http://www.google.de/#q=dod+email+root+certificatebtnG=Google-Suchemeta=aq=foq=dod+email+root+certificate
 and watching
 http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/announcements/dodrootcertificates.html
 i found it should be found here, but the Site does not
 load for me:
 http://dodpki.c3pki.chamb.disa.mil/rootca.html but they
 say: For further assistance: DTIC Web site customers
 should contact r...@dtic.mil or (703) 767-8274.



Possibly try something like http://crl.disa.mil/getsign?DOD%20CA-21

I googled 'DOD EMAIL certificate' and selected the first result, 
which was an FAQ page on portal.navfac.navy.mil. Firefox gave me the 
certified by unknown authority dialogue box and I selected examine 
certificate and found the above link under details | certificate 
fields | certificate | extensions | authority information access





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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens,

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:53:12 +0200 GMT (10/Oct/09, 22:53 PM +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

 The cert authority in the email I am
 referring to is called DOD EMAIL.

JF Resources: Installing DoD Root Certificates
JF from searching
JF 
http://www.google.de/#q=dod+email+root+certificatebtnG=Google-Suchemeta=aq=foq=dod+email+root+certificate
JF and watching
JF http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/announcements/dodrootcertificates.html
JF i found it should be found here, but the Site does not load for me:
JF http://dodpki.c3pki.chamb.disa.mil/rootca.html
JF but they say:
JF For further assistance: DTIC Web site customers should contact 
r...@dtic.mil or (703) 767-8274.

Thanks for all this. Yes, I am in contact with dodpki. Believe me,
the DOD has so many different departments with different approval
procedures, that my request over here is a cry for help. They do offer
suppport for Outlook and Thunderbird (and a few others), but TheBat!
isn't in their standard list.

JF Maybe you should eMail r...@dtic.mil and tell them to guide you to the
JF correct Website, where you can download the Root Certificate and see
JF the Fingerprints, because you have to compare the Fingerprints to be
JF sure this is the wanted Certificate.

I have never heared of DTIC but am not surprised there is just another
unit again. I'll try that but don't expect a quick answer, with the
long weekend coming up in the US.

I'll also be in the 703 area code later this month, so there is hope
this problem will be solved.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:15:44 +0100 GMT (10/Oct/09, 23:15 PM +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

M Possibly try something like http://crl.disa.mil/getsign?DOD%20CA-21

M I googled 'DOD EMAIL certificate' and selected the first result, 
M which was an FAQ page on portal.navfac.navy.mil. Firefox gave me the 
M certified by unknown authority dialogue box and I selected examine 
M certificate and found the above link under details | certificate 
M fields | certificate | extensions | authority information access

This is very useful, thank you. NAVFAC is actually my customer, so
you are right on the spot.

For those who don't know US Naval Facilities (Navfac): We have often
heard about the US Army Corps of Engineers. However, in fact (and I
don't really know whether I have to shoot you after telling you this),
the world has been seperated between the Army and the Navy. Over here,
it's the Navy that fixes things (dams, ports, you name it). In other
parts of the world (like the continental US), the Army is in charge.

That's all there is to it. Not very exciting (no shooting involved),
but interesting from a logistics POV.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 10 October 2009 at 5:40:59 PM, in
mid:878417541.20091010234...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:


 This is very useful, thank you. NAVFAC is actually my
 customer, so you are right on the spot.

Completely by accident (-;


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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez,

am Samstag, 10. Oktober 2009 um 17:38 schrieben Sie:

 I will
 check on Monday whether I have a .crt file on that computer.

Or you could export from the Browser.

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez,

am Samstag, 10. Oktober 2009 um 18:24 schrieben Sie:

 Believe me,
 the DOD has so many different departments with different approval
 procedures

I saw, how much Zertifikates are in the ZIP File, which poorly is
another .exe but you could list the certificates with Commandline
Switches, maybe you find here, what you need (about 72 inside):

Anlagen:
   1) Certs.txt (3464 Byte, Textdatei)

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DoD PKE InstallRoot v3.12A

List File Certificates: 
Store  SubjectIssuer Not 
After  Status  
--- -- -- -- 
-- --- 
 1. ROOT   DoD PKI Med Root CA
 2. ROOT   DoD CLASS 3 Root CA
 3. ROOT   DoD ROOT CA 2  
 4. ROOT   DoD OCSP SS
 5. ROOT   ECA Root CA
 6. ROOT   ECA Root CA
 7. ROOT   ECA Root CA 2  
 8. CA Med CA-1   
 9. CA Med CA-2   
10. CA DoD CLASS 3 CAC CA 
11. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-3   
12. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-4   
13. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-5   
14. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-6   
15. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-7   
16. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-8   
17. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-9   
18. CA DoD CLASS 3 CA-10  
19. CA DoD CA-11  
20. CA DoD CA-12  
21. CA DoD CA-13  
22. CA DoD CA-14  
23. CA DoD CA-15  
24. CA DoD CA-16  
25. CA DoD CA-17  
26. CA DoD CA-18  
27. CA DoD CA-19  
28. CA DoD CA-20  
29. CA Med Email CA-1 
30. CA Med Email CA-2 
31. CA DoD CLASS 3 CAC EMAIL CA   
32. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-3 
33. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-4 
34. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-5 
35. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-6 
36. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-7 
37. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-8 
38. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-9 
39. CA DoD CLASS 3 EMAIL CA-10
40. CA DoD EMAIL CA-11
41. CA DoD EMAIL CA-12
42. CA DoD EMAIL CA-13
43. CA DoD EMAIL CA-14
44. CA DoD EMAIL CA-15
45. CA DoD EMAIL CA-16
46. CA DoD EMAIL CA-17
47. CA DoD EMAIL CA-18
48. CA DoD EMAIL CA-19
49. CA DoD EMAIL CA-20
50. CA DoD Intermediate CA-1  
51. CA ORC ECA
52. CA ORC ECA
53. CA ORC ECA
54. CA ORC ECA 2  
55. CA ORC ECA FN 
56. CA IdenTrust ECA 1
57. CA VeriSign Client External Certi 
58. CA VeriSign Client External Certi 
59. CA VeriSign Client External Certi 
60. CA DoD Intermediate CA-1  
61. CA DoD Intermediate CA-2  
62. CA ORC ECA SW 3   
63. CA ORC ECA HW 3   
64. CA IdenTrust ECA 2
65. CA VeriSign Client External Certi 
66. CA DOD CA-21  
67. CA DOD CA-22  
68. CA DOD CA-23  
69. CA DOD CA-24  
70. CA DOD EMAIL CA-21
71. CA DOD EMAIL CA-22
72. CA DOD EMAIL CA-23
73. CA DOD EMAIL CA-24
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Re: Tracing filteractivity

2009-10-10 Thread Gene
Hello Dan,

Monday, October 5, 2009, 12:57:54 PM, you wrote:

DP Hello Gene,

DP Monday, October 5, 2009, 6:40:41 AM, you wrote:

 Hello TBUDL,

   I seem to remember, from a long time ago, some method to trace how a
   particular email was routed by filters. I have a problem in
   filtering that I haven't been able to trace and this feature (if I
   remember correctly) would be useful

DP If  you look at the accountlog for the respective account, it will
DP show  which rule was triggered (if any) for all emails. If it is a
DP high-traffic account, you can use the Ctrl+F 'Find' in the account
DP log to search for the particular subjectline or sender.

DP Hope this helps

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Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org

2009-10-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens,

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:46:59 +0200 GMT (11/Oct/09, 0:46 AM +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

 Believe me, the DOD has so many different departments with
 different approval procedures

JF I saw, how much Zertifikates are in the ZIP File, which poorly is
JF another .exe but you could list the certificates with Commandline
JF Switches, maybe you find here, what you need (about 72 inside):

JF Anlagen:
JF1) Certs.txt (3464 Byte, Textdatei)

Where did you get this list from? Where can I download the .exe to
import these certs into TB!?

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