Re[2]: Selective Quoting

2002-01-25 Thread Alan Poulton

Friday, January 25, 2002, 12:28:39 PM, David van Zuijlekom wrote:

wD>> Is it okay to reply to a message and start a new thread by using
wD>> [was original topic]

> Yes no problem.

I remember reading that that is not okay.. When starting a new topic,
start a new thread. Some people will not be following a certain thread,
so any new topics in that thread could be missed by people.  For
instance, I don't read messages pertaining to PGP since I don't use it.
If a new topic was started within a PGP thread, I would never see it.

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Deleting Messages

2002-01-21 Thread Alan Poulton

Hi List!

Is it possible to permanently delete messages without first sending them
to the Trash?

Also, is it possible to set up a filter for the Trash to delete certain
messages? I had a quick look at making a filter for "Read Messages" but
it seems I can only move them, not delete them - unless I didn't look
far enough, which is entirely possible. =]

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Re[2]: randomness of cookie

2002-01-15 Thread Alan Poulton

Tuesday, January 15, 2002, 3:14:58 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

> The longest cookies come up more often.

> Compare it with a page with ten quotes.
> The first quote is 18 lines, the other nine quotes are one line. Take
> a pencil, close your eyes and choose one quote. Chances are two to one
> your choosing the big one.

How does that work? In my cookie template file, all my cookies are one
one line each, not broken up.

I find that some of my cookies come up more often than others.

I think the ideal way to randomize the cookie file is to have a button
to randomize the cookies internally (mix up the order of the lines),
then simply choose the cookies one at a time.

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Re: Benefits of registration?

2002-01-11 Thread Alan Poulton

Friday, January 11, 2002, 5:46:49 PM, Geordon VanTassle wrote:

>   Just out of curiosity, what are the "features available only for
>   registered users" that are mentioned on the registration page?

My favourite feature was that TB! continued to work after 30 days. When
I first tried looking for a new email client, I fell in love with TB!
right away (especially after using Eudora, Pegasus and others). During
the first 30 days, I completely forgot that it was shareware and then it
stopped working on me. I sent my money in right fast!

But to answer your question more fully.. I have no idea. =]

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Re[2]: HTML Problems.../Forwarded E-mail Problems

2002-01-11 Thread Alan Poulton

Friday, January 11, 2002, 11:22:56 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> Another way would be to double click the HTML attachment - that's why
> I like it displayed - and open it in your browser, which then can
> connect to the Internet and GET the images.

But that doesn't work if it's a .MSG attachment, which is a message that
someone forwarded, but as an attachment.

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Re[2]: winxp out of mem

2002-01-11 Thread Alan Poulton

Thursday, January 10, 2002, 11:55:14 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> In XP? This is the NT version of Windows, not the DOS based like your
> ME. He shouldn't have the usual resource problems like we measly Win9x
> users have it (DOS 640 K base memory and three 64K heaps for handling
> memory and graphics).

Oops! I keep thinking of XP as the next Windows operating in a DOS
Shell, like the 95/98/ME is.  I'm fresh out of ideas in that case =]

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Re: Display Font

2002-01-11 Thread Alan Poulton

Friday, January 11, 2002, 7:12:25 AM, GJim wrote:

> After re-installing TB! (along with EVERYTHING else), I no longer have
> access to the display font, within TB!, that I used to use (Andale
> Mono).

Does the font exist in your c:\windows\fonts folder?  I couldn't tell
you, off hand, if it's a default Windows font, but this would be the
first place i'd look.

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Re: HTML Problems.../Forwarded E-mail Problems

2002-01-11 Thread Alan Poulton

Friday, January 11, 2002, 2:47:26 AM, Scott Sims wrote:

> I am wondering how i get the bat to display the pictures from an html
> e-mail? If I open up the message.hml page in internet explorer it
> displays the pics.

As already mentioned twice, but now in different words, the only way for
TB! to display the pictures in the email is if the person who wrote it
sends the pictures with the email. Most people don't do this because it
makes the message larger, so instead they put the HTML code in the
message to get the image from a website somewhere.

> Also is their anyway to make the batdisplay the
> whole e-mail like iexplorer? I get alot of fowarded e-mail's that have
> been forwarded from people to people and I have to open like the
> message.msg then again inside the message and so forth until i get to
> the main meaagse. Thanks in Advance, Scott  (Using The Bat 1.54/Beta
> 26)

The only way to fix this is to tell the person who forwarded you the
message to change their Email Settings to "Forward as Inline" instead of
"Forward as Attachment."  Then that person has to tell who forwarded
them the message, and so on and so on.  Netscape's default is Forward as
Attachment, so when I receive forwards from people using Netscape, I
always ask them to change it.

Often times people don't know what their own email program is doing (how
often do you send yourself email?). So they appreciate being told.


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Re: winxp out of mem

2002-01-10 Thread Alan Poulton

Thursday, January 10, 2002, 1:52:45 PM, ::Andrew:: wrote:

>   I just tried to perge and compress all accounts in windows XP. I
>   have an AMD 1900 (1.6) processor and 1 gig of memory. TB! bugs out
>   saying there's no enough memory (but checking only 20% is used). Is
>   this a bug? I do have a lot of mail 23,000 item in the biggest
>   account.

Despite the power of your CPU and the amount of memory you have, you
only have 640K of resources available. That's not a typo, that's a K not
a M or a G.

I thought there was a problem with my WinME machine when I upgraded from
128 Megs to 256 Megs a few months ago and the system couldn't handle
having more Internet Explorer windows open than it used to be able to.
Until I looked up the whole "resource" thing.

I don't know how TB! handles mail, if it loads all the messages into
memory for faster access or not.. but my guess is that there are too
many messages in that account.  You can only fit so much in 640 KB of
memory.  Try deleting old messages if possible, or archive them.

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Re: Deleting a thread

2002-01-09 Thread Alan Poulton

Wednesday, January 09, 2002, 3:12:13 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

> How can I delete more than one threaded messages at once?

Highlight the threads while holding down the SHIFT key. Then do the
Ctrl+Shift+Del as suggested.


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Re: Converter BADLY NEEDED/Better E-mail Programs/The Bat! Keeps Stuffing Up.

2002-01-09 Thread Alan Poulton

Wednesday, January 09, 2002, 1:36:43 PM, Scott Sims wrote:

> 2. Is their a better e-mail program that the bat? Something with the
> look of incredimail or outlook but displays your e-mail right (the bat
> does but not all...)

The only one that I've heard of that is close to being as good as TB! is
one called Becky. I haven't used it myself though.

> 3. The bat keeps screwing up forwared email's. It downloads the e-mail
> with an attached jpg of 200k but when i click on the e-mail their is
> non jpg in the window.

> 4.Is their a way to make the bat dislpay the whole e-mail at once like
> web-based? Because some forwarded e-mail have like 10 message.htm's...

Did you try double clicking the 'message.html' listed in the Attachments
pane?  It will load the HTML message into your default web browser.

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Re: ZIP and email peculiarity

2002-01-09 Thread Alan Poulton

Wednesday, January 09, 2002, 1:00:52 PM, Alastair Scott wrote:

> Yet Zip and email is still using A to send the email from.

Do you have TB! running when you try to Zip and Email?  I've noticed
that whichever account and folder I'm in at the time is the folder and
account used when I click a Mailto: link on a website.  If TB! is closed
then it uses the default account and folder.

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Re[3]: Marking threads as read

2002-01-08 Thread Alan Poulton

Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 6:15:57 PM, Juan Manuel wrote:

> Sorry for my silly question, then ;(

Oh, no worries.. I was just proud that I was able to answer a question!

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Re: Marking threads as read

2002-01-08 Thread Alan Poulton

Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 7:44:27 AM, Juan Manuel wrote:

> I  was  wondering if there is a way to mark a whole thread as read, in
> the same way that Ctrl-M marks a message as read.

OOH! I can answer that! Only because I asked it recently (a week or so
ago). heheh

Ctrl-Shift-M will mark the thread as read.


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Re[2]: OT: Browsers

2002-01-06 Thread Alan Poulton

Sunday, January 06, 2002, 11:47:23 AM, Avenarius wrote:

> Opera rocks and is without competition, just as TB! is without
> competition in the mailing world.

I used to use Netscape primarily, but was forced to switch to IE because
I can make Netscape crash without trying hard.  My problem is that I
like to open MULTIPLE windows at once.  Netscape can't handle this. IE
does a poor job of it, but at least it doesn't crash.

When I last tried Opera, the biggest complaint I had was how it handled
multiple instances, or windows.  Currently, when I do a search on
Google, I'll open a bunch of the results into new windows (Shift-Click
the link to do this in IE). In IE, all the new windows show on my Task
Bar and I can switch between them with a simple Alt-Tab.  And then
Ctrl-W to close it when I'm done.  With Opera, all the "new windows"
were in the Window pull down and I could see no easy way of switching
between them.

Does Opera still behave this way?  How about Mozilla?  I'm not Pro-MS
and use IE just because it's made by the Software GODS so I wouldn't
mind switching to another browser if the other browser does what I want.

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Re[2]: The faq and Opera

2002-01-06 Thread Alan Poulton

Sunday, January 06, 2002, 2:35:36 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> I have - it's Opera's implementation of JavaScript that's the problem.
> I can't code around it.

Sure you can.. Use regular old HTML instead of JavaScript. Or, instead
of having to click the = make the text a link to the page as well.

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Usenet?

2002-01-03 Thread Alan Poulton

Oh neat.. OT: I just used the %TO macro to autofill in the To: field.
I'm so proud of me.

Anyway.. that's not the point of this message. I just want to know if
it's possible to use TB! to use Usenet. I don't think it IS possible, as
it's not in the Help files. But I ask because this OutPost Firewall has
a predefined Rule for The Bat! that says that TB! is allowed to access
NNTP servers ... so, if there is a way, how?  If there isn't, would it
be a worthwhile feature suggestion? =]

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Re: Printing Problem with 1.53d

2002-01-02 Thread Alan Poulton

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 3:10:47 PM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

> Now, hitting the print icon simply begins the printing process and all
> pages are printed.

I just assume that this is the standard in *all* Windows Programs, so I
_always_ use Ctrl-P to print. Even if I am going to take the default
settings.  That's when I just go Ctrl-P, Enter.  I would expect that
future versions of TB! will remain the way they are now with regards to
the Print button.

btw... it takes me longer to find the print button on the screen than it
does to go Ctrl-P or even File/Print.  But that's me. =]

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Re: SOT: TB!-aware firewall

2002-01-01 Thread Alan Poulton

Tuesday, January 01, 2002, 5:49:14 AM, Alastair Scott wrote:

> Just to note that the new Agnitum Outpost [Free] firewall* knows of
> The Bat! - it has preset rules for it, as I found out to my surprise
> when I first tried to retrieve email with the firewall installed.

I just loaded the page and haven't looked at it yet. So I thought I'd
ask this out of ignorance anyway (LOL).  Is this Outpost any better
than, say, ZoneAlarm - also freeware?  Does it pass the tests at
www.grc.com (such as the Shields Up! and more importantly the Leak
Test)?  I have to wonder what the preset rules are.. All I can think of
is that it allows TB to send and retrieve mail even if the Internet is
"Locked" (if Outpost has such a feature as ZA).

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Re: Registration Question (boxed ver.)

2002-01-01 Thread Alan Poulton

Monday, December 31, 2001, 9:49:58 AM, Randy Burns wrote:

> How long should I wait for a reply to an emailed registration form
> before I decide that my registration attempt didn't work?  I'm trying
> to register a boxed disk version.  When trying to update the disk's
> ver. 1.49f to ver. 1.53d, I seem to need that registration password,
> etc.

My registration took a week or slightly more. But then I had to mail
payment in from Canada, and the mail apparantly got forwarded to the
wrong department or something.. Or was it that it went to the right
place, but they forgot to tell the other people to send me an email with
my registration code.  But I would just send them an email asking them
if payment was received and eventually I got the reply back. heh. Don't
forget it's the holidays right now, so it might be a bit slower than
normal.

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Re: This mailing-list (OT?)

2001-12-30 Thread Alan Poulton

Sunday, December 30, 2001, 4:39:11 AM, Dirk Dörr wrote:

> The discussion about the "BAT's word wrapping" is going to be too
> emotional and looks like a "flamewar". Even after several comments of
> the list moderator it doesn't stop.

My only comment on this is that, unfortunately, we're human. We want to
get the last word in and by jove, we'll do it moderator or not!  Upon
joining this list one week ago, I remember reading that messages such as
that posted in the Word Wrapping thread were not to be allowed. So I
choose not to engage in such trivial things.  But it took me several
years to realize that I'm the only me.

Alternately, it could be that people posted their comments before
reading the list moderator's requests to stop.

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Re[2]: Up and running again :-))

2001-12-30 Thread Alan Poulton

Sunday, December 30, 2001, 7:35:55 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote:

> different means including HTML. But David mentioned already, that only
> being online could spread Viruses. How? I dant know!

While I've been surfing on the .. *ahem* .. less reputable sites, I've
often encountered a website try to force a .EXE file on me. Basically
it's a simple link to a .EXE that tries to load when the web page is
finished loading.  While I'm sitting there, the dialog box that gives me
the option of "Run from this location" or "Save file to disk" pops up on
my screen.  The file is often small, and I'm on DSL. So while I'm
sitting there, going, "HUH? I didn't want to download a file!" Windows
is busy downloading the file to the TEMP directory so that it can be
finished when I decide what I want to do.

As soon as the file is finished loading in the background, InoculateIT
(my Anti-Virus software. Previously free, is now commercial. But free
versions can still be found on the net and virus updates will be free
forever) scanned the file and found it to be a Worm then said that it
deleted the file and would not restore it.

Now.. I know that by running TB! and having no addresses in my Outlook,
if I accepted the virus and didn't have a virus scanner running, it
would not spread. But if it was a virus that destroyed something on my
system, it would work.

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Threading Messages

2001-12-29 Thread Alan Poulton

I've never used the Message Threading Option in The Bat! until joining this
list last week. Now that I have seen it, I think it's incredible! Having
threaded messages makes it SO much easier to read the messages in the list.
But I have a question regarding it. How does one mark a message thread as
read?  As opposed to marking all messages in the folder as read, that is. Some
threads don't pertain to me, so I want to be able to just pass by them but I
don't want to have it listed that I have New, Unread messages in the message
folder list.

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Re[2]: Message Viewer Window

2001-12-28 Thread Alan Poulton

Friday, December 28, 2001, 10:04:15 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

>> So tell me.. in the 1.54 beta series, does the Attachment pane show up when
>> viewing the 'message.html' ?

> Luckily, yes. But, shouldn't View/Attachments/Hide hide them always?

Hmm.. that's too bad. I really liked it the way it was in 1.53bis and earlier.
When viewing message.html (in the HTML viewer in TB), the only way to see the
attachment pane was to click on the '1' tab on the bottom to see the Text
Message.

View/Attachments/Hide does hide them always. Yes. So it's not a viable
solution to viewing the html message in full screen width.

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Re[2]: Message Viewer Window

2001-12-28 Thread Alan Poulton

Thursday, December 27, 2001, 1:30:40 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> Now, I thought this behaviour had changed with the new viewer logic in the
> 1.54 beta series. The behaviour you are lamenting is the way I thought it
> always used to work. In short, I can't help other than to say that I don't
> think you're dreaming..

Actually, I think I figured it out. It used to be, in 1.53bis, that when
viewing an HTML message, the file attachment pane would not show. But then I
recently upgraded to 1.53d and now the file attachment pane is there when
viewing an HTML message.. I wish it wouldn't. I liked having the full width to
view the HTML message better. I know, I know.. I could always just click
View/Attached Files/Hide when viewing.. but that's a pain.  heheh.

So tell me.. in the 1.54 beta series, does the Attachment pane show up when
viewing the 'message.html' ?

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Message Viewer Window

2001-12-27 Thread Alan Poulton

I seem to recall a time, not that long ago, where, when I would receive an
HTML email, the attachment pane on the side would not show up unless I clicked
the '1' Tab on the bottom. This allowed me to see the HTML message in full
screen width.  Then if the HTML message had pretty pictures I wanted to see, I
would have to click the '1' Tab on the bottom, which shows the Text portion of
the message and the attachment pane, and I could double click the message.html
to see the email message in my browser in all it's glory.

But lately.. when I receive an email with HTML in it, I get the Attachment
Pane on the side of the HTML message as well as the main Text tab.

Now.. am I just on glue and I dreamt up reading the messages in the past? Or
is this something that can be changed?  I tried the help files and looking
through the Preferences, but to no avail. I notice that I can have the
Attachment Pane show Automatically, Always and Never. What I need is
"Automatically, but not when viewing HTML message".  Any ideas?

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Sending HTML email

2001-12-23 Thread Alan Poulton

Hi Everyone

I'm new to this discussion list, although a somewhat seasoned user of The Bat!
and computers in general.  If this message is real long, I apologize. I'm
profilic like that.

I tried finding the answer to this already by reading the FAQs and searching
through the message archives, yet was unable to find exactly what I'm looking
for.

I want the ability to send an email with HTML stuff in it. Basically I'm
wanting to create a Newsletter of sorts so I want to have all the pretty
formatting and the option for pictures (although I won't allow 'web bugs').
When I read the FAQ at the silverstones website, the answer wasn't completely
clear for me. Create an HTML document in your favourite editor, attach the
file in a new message in TB!, export the message, doctor the header and import
the message back in.

This is what I did: Created the HTML document in Evrsoft First Page 2000
(excellent freeware HTML editor, btw!). Created a new message in TB!, attached
my new HTML document, Saved the message (saved in Outbox). I then went to the
Outbox, clicked on the message and did a Save As.. so I could save it as a
.MSG. I opened the .MSG in Notepad, changed multipart/mixed to
multipart/alternative. Saved the file.  And then .. how do I Import the
message? I double-clicked the file and it loaded into TB! message viewer. I
then did a Re-Direct on it and sent it to myself to test it.

When I received the message back, it came back with the HTML document as an
attachment.  Yet, when I use Netscape to compose an HTML message and send it
to me, the HTML message isn't an 'attachment', it's part of the message.

The reason I need the HTML message to not be an attachment is because the List
Server I will be using attaches some important stuff to the bottom of the
Newsletter - such as Unsubscribe information. It does not attach this
information to the bottom of an attachment.

Does anyone know if it's possible to send an HTML message with TB! the way I
want it done?  Am I even importing the message into TB! properly?

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