Re: SSL SMTP Problems

2008-11-20 Thread Gary Lucas
On Thursday, November 20, 2008, Scott Sims scripted:

 I have tried doing it exactly as it has said and you have discribed. t
 refuses to work, both with Internode and Gmail.
 I am using Gmail for your domain.

Greetings Scott, 07:20, Thursday, November 20, 2008

I had exactly the same experience with Gmail. I tried all combinations of
STARTTLS and TLS, port 465 and 587. It simply refused to send mail.  Very
frustrating.

Some weeks later, however, I tried again and it worked the first time. My
guess is that once it gets set wrong, something (in The Bat or Gmail?)
doesn't get reset.

Try deleting the account and starting with a new one. The settings Roelof
recommends really do work.

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Re: Copying filters to another account

2008-11-11 Thread Gary Lucas
On Tuesday, November 11, 2008, Peter Meyns scripted:

GL As I recall. I was once able to copy filters from one account to another
GL using the Copy_tree function.  However, it no longer seems to be available.
GL  Is there some back door way to do this?

 No back door. Simply highlight the filter, then copy it with the
 right-click-menu or ctrl+C and paste it to its destination account.

You don't seem to understand. I want to copy the entire tree of incoming
filters from one account to another. That choice is grayed out at the
incoming filter level.

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Gary

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Copying filters to another account

2008-11-11 Thread Gary Lucas
Greetings,  12:19, Tuesday, November 11, 
2008

As I recall. I was once able to copy filters from one account to another
using the Copy_tree function.  However, it no longer seems to be available.
 Is there some back door way to do this?

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Gary  

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Never test the depth of the water with both feet.

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Re: Speaking of signatures

2008-08-26 Thread Gary Lucas
On Tuesday, August 26, 2008, Chrille Andersson scripted:

 I have noticed that you have a quote in your signature that changes every 
 time. How can I make one like that?

Greetings Chrille Andersson, 12:43, Tuesday, August 26, 2008

There's a handy program for generating random cookies.  It's called cookie
jar and it's free.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/kookiejar/

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Gary

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Re: Speaking of signatures

2008-08-26 Thread Gary Lucas
On Tuesday, August 26, 2008, Gunivortus Goos scripted:

 But in TB you don't need that, TB has a built-in option for cookies.
 Just gather your favourite cookies in a plain ASCII file (a .txt file, f.i. 
 made
 with notepad) and save that somewhere, f.i. in your The Bat directory.
 Then rightclick the mouse on a folder in the folder tree.
 Choose 'Properties', then under Template 'New message'.
 Put the cursor in the right window near above your sig delimiter, where you 
 want
 to appear the cookie, Then rightclick again and choose: 'Cookie from a 
 file'
 Then led the upcoming window to your cookies file.
 Done.
 Do the same with Reply under Template.


Greetings Gunivortus Goos, 13:49, Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Yes, but Kookiejar manages the cookies and selects them randomly. I have
Kookiejar put a random cookie in cookie.txt every 5 min. Whenever I compose
a new message the following template adds it to my message.

%wrapped=%Cookie=C:\Program Files\KookieJar6\cookie.txt

If you want to pick them manually you can, but I have over 700 to pick from
now, I'm lazy, no right click is needed, and the randomness is actually fun.

-- 
Gary

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Notice: This farmer allows all pedestrians to cross his pasture for free.
However, there is no guarantee that the bull won't charge.

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Re: Speaking of signatures

2008-08-26 Thread Gary Lucas
On Tuesday, August 26, 2008, Rick scripted:

 I only have about 35 but that is by choice. What is the advantage of
 Kookiejar? I am asking not baiting. Thanks

Greetings Rick, 14:10, Tuesday, August 26, 2008

I stand corrected, thanks to Gunivortus and Roelof. Apparently The Bat does
most of this also. The advantage is that Kookiejar has some features for
adding and editing the cookies, and the features in Kookiejar are
documented.

I had no idea The Bat could do some of this.  That's why I love it!?

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Gary

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Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm. - Sir
Winston Churchill

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Lost ticker

2006-12-29 Thread Gary Lucas
Greetings,  11:02, Friday, December 29, 2006

I now find that when I try to make the mail ticker show up, it won't.

No matter what I check, display always, display automatically, always on
top, high, medium, and low priority. Nothing works.

The only recent change in my system is that I switched from a 21-in CRT to a
19-in LCD. Could the ticker be pointed to an off-screen area and somehow
just aborting?  Any ideas on how I might get it back?

-- 
Gary  

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certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand
Russell

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Re: Lost ticker

2006-12-29 Thread Gary Lucas
On Friday, December 29, 2006, Marten Gallagher scripted:


 Probably not aborting it may well still be there as a ghost off-screen.
 Two suggetions of a generic nature:

 A) swap monitors back and disbale the ticker. Swap back again an re-enable?
 B) uninstall and re-install TB
 Neither may be possible or desirable but that's all I can suggest at the
 minute.

 TB has certain issues with monitors (changing resolution and dual monitors)
 which I am trying to document enough to make a bug report.

Greetings Marten,   13:36, Friday, December 29, 2006

Yes, I also had to changed screen resolutions and the last location of the
ticker was near the lower edge of the screen, so an off screen ghost seems
possible. Unfortunately, going back is not an option as the reason for the
change was that my old CRT died, so I have no way of dragging the ghost
into the present.

Is there some registry setting that I might be able to adjust to point the
ticker back into the real world?

-- 
Gary

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Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination
to do so. - Douglas Adams

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Re: Lost ticker

2006-12-29 Thread Gary Lucas
On Friday, December 29, 2006, Robin Anson scripted:

 The ticker is probably off the screen. If you are happy to edit the
 registry, run regedit and go to
 HKEY_Current_User\RIT\The Bat!\Ticker
 There are 2 values in there Left and Top. Set both to 0 and the
 ticker will be placed at the top left corner of your screen.

 However you must do this with TB! closed, since it is only read at
 start up, and TB! overwrites these values as it closes down.

Greetings Robin,   17:50, Friday, December 29, 2006

Somehow I failed to consider that The Bat should be CLOSED when I made the
registry changes. Of course, it only reads those values when it opens. Your
note jogged my thinking.

The lost ticker has now returned.  Thanks.

-- 
Gary

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As you well know, Mr. President, 'railroad' carriages are pulled at the
enormous speed of 15 mph, by 'engines.' The Almighty never intended that
people should travel at such breakneck speed. - Martin Van Buren, governor
of New York to President Andrew Jackson, 1829

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Address book has gone empty

2006-09-19 Thread Gary Lucas
Greetings,  09:26, Tuesday, September 19, 
2006

I now find my address book is empty.  And I cannot find any .ABD files that
seem to hold my old addresses.  Is there some way to import the addresses
from my backup files?

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Gary  

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Writing is easy.  All you do is stare at a blank sheet of paper until drops
of blood form on your forehead. - Gene Fowler

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Re: Junk mail to delete

2006-04-19 Thread Gary Lucas
On Wednesday, April 19, 2006, Peter Kerekes cleverly scripted:

 Hello,

 I have a folder Junk Mail using Bayes Filter Plug-in. I set FOLDER |
 PROPERTIES | NAME - Junk Mail |to Keep messages in the base for
 (days): choose 1 and tick.

 But is doesn't work for some reason. I have over 500, all since I last
 manually deleted.

 Why isn't it automatically deleting the ones over a day old?


Greetings Peter Kerekes, 17:42, Wednesday, April 19, 2006

You set the days under Properties-General

However, for some strange reason there's a second check box under
Properties-Additional that must be set to make it work.

My experience is that you may also need to check the Compress Folders
box under Properties-Additional or it still may not work.

-- 
Gary

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Strange filtering on IMAP account

2005-12-23 Thread Gary Lucas
Greetings,  09:45, Thursday, December 22, 
2005

I recently moved from a POP to an IMAP mail server. The setup seemed to go
fairly easy, but my incoming mail filters now behave strangely on the IMAP
account. Sometimes they don't run and I must run then manually. If they are
supposed to mark a message as read, the last message put in a folder is
never marked as read. I upgraded from 3.62 to the latest version, but that
didn't help.

Further, the IMAP message counts are wrong. Currently they show I have 11
unread out of 31 total in the input folder, when in fact 29 have been moved
to other folders and the two remaining have both been read. I've turned off
all synchronization, so that's not it. The count corrects itself if I
compress the folder.

Any ideas?

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Gary  

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Re: Desktop Search Tools

2005-05-23 Thread Gary Lucas
On Sunday, May 22, 2005, Steve Caine cleverly scripted:

 I can confirm, though, that it works fine with Firefox 1.0.4.  I'm
 using that as my browser along with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 and Google
 Desktop Search The Bat! Version:   1.0.0.7.

Greetings Steve and All, 14:34, Monday, May 23, 2005

I can confirm that this combination works. Firefox, The Bat 3.0.1.33, the
GDS plugin 1.0.07 for The Bat, Win XP pro.

The initial behavior was a little strange. After I configured the plugin
in TB and forced an initial re-index only a small number of the mail
indexes showed up in GDS. GDS updates in the background and so it takes a
while, but the process seemed to stall after a few thousand messages were
indexed. I went back to plugin configuration re-indexed again and another
thousand mail messages showed in the GDS count almost immediately.

I re-indexed four times before the count of mail messages appeared to
asymptote on the GDS status page, so the plugin still needs some tweaking.
However, the searches are quick once the indexes are in place. This looks
like a very promising tool.

-- 
Gary

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Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely
consistent people are dead. - Aldous Huxley, 1894-1963

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Re: Desktop Search Tools

2005-05-23 Thread Gary Lucas
On Monday, May 23, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz cleverly scripted:

 I found it works best when you set it to index messages on exiting TB.

Greetings Alexander S. Kunz, 16:06, Monday, May 23, 2005

Yes, that's the way it is supposed to work, but it seems to need help
getting started.  It didn't automatically index everything when I
configured it to do so and then closed TB down to force it to start.

Not sure why, but it seemed to go better when I forced the re-indexing
manually.  Hopefully, this will be useful feedback for the author.

-- 
Gary

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Good)

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As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain;
as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. - Albert
Einstein, 1879-1955

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Globally changing reading confirmation

2002-07-15 Thread Gary Lucas

Hi,   Monday, July 15, 2002 18:51


Somehow I have managed to get the reading confirmation toggled ON in every
one of my folder.  Even though I never set it in any folder I can't
seem to figure out how to turn it off globally.  There must be a way to
turn it off and keep it off.

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SSL Authentification

2002-07-01 Thread Gary Lucas

Hi,   Monday, July 01, 2002 08:57

  My university internet service decided to go to SSL/TSL verification.
  I setup TB for TSL authentification and all seemed well. I was logging
  in and authenticating in that mode. But, on the official switchover
  I now fail, the server responds--login only available under a layer.

  Can someone explain what this means?  And can TB handle it?

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Re: New User Questions

2002-06-27 Thread Gary Lucas

Hi Marck,   Thursday, June 27, 2002 09:04

  Thanks for the helpful reply.

  However, I think there may still be a problem with the FAQ page.  I am using
  IE 6.0.2600.IC under Win 98/SE 4.10.A and I have all the latest
  Win 98 and IE update patches from Microsoft.  Still, the FAQ reports
  Done, but with errors on page after loading and all that gets displayed is
  one line at the top and a white background.  No links or anything.

--Gary

==Original message text===
From: Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gary Lucas on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, June 27, 2002, 4:22:59 AM
Subject: New User Questions
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Hi Gary,

@27 June 2002, 21:40:04 -0500 (03:40 UK time) Gary Lucas in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 The FAQ page is full of javascript errors that prevent it from
 displaying in both Netscape and IE on my machine.

The pages work perfectly on IE 5.5 and later, Mozilla and many others.
NetScape is buggy and there's nothing I can do about that and I'm
trying to code around some of Opera's shortcomings. With those
provisos the FAQ works well and includes a link at the front page to a
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Re: New User Questions

2002-06-27 Thread Gary Lucas

Hi,   Thursday, June 27, 2002 20:13

OK. I installed both Beonex and Netscape 7.0 for a tryout.
Beonex has the look and feel of Netscape 7.0 but seems to be faster.

The FAQ page displays with Beonex and with Netscape 7.0, just fine.

The FAQ page does not display under either Netscape 4.7 or IE 6.0.
I get javascript errors and a blank page in both cases.

I think Beonex is going to be my new default browser.

--Gary

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To: Sudip Pokhrel on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, June 27, 2002, 10:56:49 AM
Subject: New User Questions
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@27 June 2002, 21:02:35 +0545 (16:17 UK time) Sudip Pokhrel in
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 the FAQ reports Done, but with errors on page after loading and
 all that gets displayed is one line at the top and a white
 background. No links or anything.

MDP Could you be getting a cached version? I use the same version of
MDP IE as you do and the page has no errors.

 Mark, as I described in my earlier thread, I have the same problem.

I think yours is a different problem. Like I said earlier, turn off
Identify as IE and make it Identify as Opera before viewing.

 Also confused about the first page with flat links that you refer
 to i.e. where is it?

In the middle of the page you say is blank.

You can get directly to the flat version on
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq_flat.html

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