Archiving in a database
Battyfolk, I'm wondering about the best way to do this. I know the different formats that TB! can save files in & I've found that 'eml' is probably the best way to go for my purposes (buy maybe not). In saving a folder of msgs to 'eml' the problems I ran across are each msg has to be saved individually each msg with the same subj can't be over-written With all msgs saved to eml format in one folder, I get headers + msgs which I can then import as separate items in a database. There may be other ways... Any better archiving ideas? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.96.15, , Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Skype: janrif Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
It's been a long time
Battyfolk, Sorry I've forgotten & couldn't find a reference but is there any way to link or add a note to a received email. For ex: sent a foloup on x data. I know I could add a reminder but that's quite the same thing. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.85.02, BayesIt! 0.8.4, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Skype: janrif Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
secondary address - how to use?
If user has an addressee with two or more email addresses, one under the other, how does user insert the 2nd, 2rd address into the address line of a post as a cc or as a bcc? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.70.07 "Qigong" (Beta), BayesIt! 0.8.4, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Skype: janrif Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
folder password protection
Is it possible to set password protection at the folder level or is account level the limit? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.63.06 (Beta), BayesIt! 0.8.4, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Skype: janrif Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sending issue
Battyfolk, I have been having trouble sending. TB! hesitates for a long time, sometimes sends, sometimes doesn't. When it doesn't send, I'm also not able to save the msg I've written. I've checked my account settings, i.e. SMTP, & they are correct. Other email programs send w/o problems or hesitations. I have a feeling this is a local problem but I'll be darned if I know where to look. Any thoughts or suggestions would be really appreciated. I'm going try sending this post; hope it works. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.62.03, BayesIt! 0.8.4, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
junk mail filter -- need some advice
Battyfolk, For a long time now I have been getting a piece of spam that I can't filter out & it's really getting on my nerves. Message is entirely HTML w attachment There is no text spam comes in the form of a gif (name changes as well) All headers seem random X-Spam: [F=0.5893273767; heur=0.727(2800); stat=0.349; I've looked thru current crop of filters and can't seem to put anything together that works for this piece of trash. I was thinking of something along the lines of: any message with no text and attachment w from not in my address book move to junk file and mark read Anyone got an idea to throw my way? Thanks, -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.61.09 Echo (Beta), BayesIt! 0.8.1, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spamalot
On Saturday, June 11, 2005 it appears that Dick Hoogendoorn wrote the following in regards to "spamalot": DH> [snip] you need to train this DH> program by moving a Spam message from the Ham List to the Spam DH> List... [/snip] Hi Dick. Doesn't identifying email as ham or spam do this essentially or is there some other means of doing this that is better? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.5.26, BayesIt! 0.8.1, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
spamalot
Battyfolk, I'm finding that the TB! spam plug-in is pretty useless as I don't see any improved spam filtering over many weeks & many msgs. Maybe I'm doing something wrong or there's something I need to check. Anyone experiencing the same &, if so, what are you doing about it? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.5.26, BayesIt! 0.8.1, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
glyph sizing
Battyfolk, Can someone tell me how to size glyphs, i.e. change from s16x16 to 32x32, etc. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.5 Return RC2, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
splitting msgs
Battyfolk, Can someone explain the splitting message option, default is 100kb. So let's say I'm sending out a msg with 4 small photos within the msg as photo inserts in an html photo. In my case TB! split this msg into 4 msgs. How does TB! split up the msg, between photos or what? What settings do some of you use? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.1.33, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
need NOD32 plug-in source
Battyfolk, Would someone be so kind as to direct me to the current NOD32 plug-in? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.1.33, , Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: need filer help please
On Wednesday, January 12, 2005 it appears that Ciprian Trofin wrote the following in regards to "need filer help please": JR>> I have a spammer that sends out msgs w/o text but only one "gif" JR>> image. How do I set up a filter for this specific problem? TIA CT> Try some anti-spam software. TB's plugin Bayes Filter (made by Achim CT> Winkler) takes care of this problem quite OK. However, YMMV. Hello Ciprian. As you can see from my sig, I use bayesit plug-in. How does the Winkler plug-in take care of this problem & where is this plug-in available? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.10, BayesIt! 0.7.9 (New Year), Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
need filer help please
Battyfolk, I have a spammer that sends out msgs w/o text but only one "gif" image. How do I set up a filter for this specific problem? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.10, BayesIt! 0.7.9 (New Year), Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I need a filter
Battyfolk, I need a filter that will separate out any email with only a graphic but w/o text. I am getting spam that is a gif & it is annoying the heck out of me. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.10, BayesIt! 0.7.9 (New Year), Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: copying msg with short headers
On Wednesday, December 22, 2004 it appears that Peter Hampf wrote
the following in regards to my question re: "copying msg with
short headers":
JR>> Is there any way of copying a msg to the clipboard so that it
JR>> shows basic header info, i.e. from, to, date, subject w/o first
JR>> saving msg as text file?
PH> Yes, it is.
PH> Download the XMP Plugin at
PH> http://www.gaijin.at/download/thebat/xmp.rar.
PH> Then create a quick-template like this (just a q&d hack):
Hi Peter. Thanks so much! A wonderful Christmas present. Works
perfectly. Of course I don't understand it but it *does* work
exactly as I wanted.
Happy Holidays to you.
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
TB!3.0.2.10, BayesIt! 0.7.7 ("4-th Adventus"), Windows 2000, Service Pack 4
ICQ 41116329
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: copying msg with short headers
On Wednesday, December 22, 2004 it appears that WilWilWil
wrote the following in regards to "copying msg with short headers":
W>> View -> RFC 822 headers, then cut and paste the message or if you
W>> have standard keyboard setup Shift-Ctrl-K, you'll have to turn it off
W>> again unless you want to always see them.
W> An other way is to create a default template call when you
W> click on "Save Button". It will save just informations needed
W> (headers of your choice). Not as easy as clipboard, but depends
W> on what for you want these headers...
Thanks. I know how to call full headers & cut/paste. And saving
msg to text file automatically does what I want. Problem is I
don't actually want to save it to a file but to copy to clipboard
& stop. That's what I'm trying to accomplish. Hope I'm clear.
TIA
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
TB!3.0.2.10, BayesIt! 0.7.7 ("4-th Adventus"), Windows 2000, Service Pack 4
ICQ 41116329
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
copying msg with short headers
Battyfolk,
Is there any way of copying a msg to the clipboard so that it
shows basic header info, i.e. from, to, date, subject w/o first
saving msg as text file?
Thanks.
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
TB!3.0.2.10, BayesIt! 0.7.7 ("4-th Adventus"), Windows 2000, Service Pack 4
ICQ 41116329
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: headers - all or nothing
On Monday, November 08, 2004 it appears that Roelof Otten wrote the following in regards to "headers - all or nothing": JR>> But for those of us who would like to clip a msg w basic headers, JR>> i.e. from, to, date, subject, the only way I know how to do this JR>> is a 2/3 step affair: JR>> save the msg to a txt file JR>> copy/paste or drag/drop to desired destination RO> I'm not sure what you like to achieve. Do you want to save messages in RO> TB's message base without any headers except the four you mentioned, RO> or do you want to save them as file? Hi Roelof. Thanks for replying to my post. What I'd like to be able to do is to select msg + headers I mentioned to input into a database I maintain with all kinds of info in it. So for example, if I wanted to clip/copy this msg & add it to a TB! tech db, I would want to have the msg + 4 headers. Now I can't do that unless I save to txt file first. Otherwise, I can only reveal *all* the headers to select & copy which is much more information than I need in the DB. Are my goals/my question clearer now? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.6, BayesIt! 0.7.3, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
headers - all or nothing
Battyfolk, It seems user currently has two options in this regard: all or nothing. But for those of us who would like to clip a msg w basic headers, i.e. from, to, date, subject, the only way I know how to do this is a 2/3 step affair: save the msg to a txt file copy/paste or drag/drop to desired destination Anyone have any better thoughts on this? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.6, BayesIt! 0.7.3, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
icon variations
Battyfolk, In the current version, additional icons have become necessary in the sorting office dialog. I love the non-standard icon set I am currently using but it needs to be updated. All the links I had before for additional icon sets are ng. Anyone have leads on a TB! icon repository that I can raid? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.2 Rush, BayesIt! 0.7.3, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
current NOD32 plugin
Battyfolk, What is the most current NOD32 plug-in & can u direct me to the source? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.1 RC7, BayesIt! 0.7.2, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
common InBox
Battyfolk, A common inbox can be created in Thunderbird. I tried it & found it had some conveniences. It looks like this could be accomplished in TB! as well but I was wondering if anyone has tried it in TB! & what your expeience has been. TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.1 RC3, BayesIt! 0.7.0 RC2, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
drag/drop capabilities
Battyfolk, Has there been any talk of giving TB! drag/drop capabilities so user is able to d/d email to another program? Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA ICQ 41116329 SKYPE janrif Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
drag/drop capabilities
Battyfolk, Has there been any talk of giving TB! drag/drop capabilities so user is able to d/d email to another program? Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA ICQ 41116329 SKYPE janrif Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving off
As a courtesy to all of you who have helped me over the years, a short note of thanks & to say that I'm taking a break from TB! for a variety of reasons. The recent beta/new version/licensing bruhaha sort of turned me off, but more important to me, I wrote two polite requests for information from RIT labs & I've rcvd no response. Not that I expect RITLabs to answer every post sent to them but I do expect that the reasonable questions I asked, should be answered in some form. That didn't happen. Not big deal but, like many of you, these are very active lists & require fair amount of time to read/respond & sometimes throw in a helping hand for another user or even to report a bug or two or three... to RIT Labs so they can improve the product. My feeling is if they don't have time to respopnd a couple of simple questions, then I don't feel right spending my time on their behalf either. There are a # of other email clients on the market now that are lapping at TB!'s heels. Most of us don't use all of TB!'s powers anyway, or at least, I don't. So take care. I think I'll play with Poco now. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA ICQ 41116329 skype janrif Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
new msg under TB! or TB! on top of new msg
Battyfolk, I must have missed a setting somewhere but this is a PITA. How do I change it? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v3.0 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] TheBat! 3.0 new version announcement **SPAM** **SPAMP2Pplugin BODY**
On Wednesday, September 01, 2004 it appears that Mike email (The Bat!) wrote the following in regards to "[News] TheBat! 3.0 new version announcement **SPAM** **SPAMP2Pplugin BODY**": MeTB> [snip] version 2 licence on MeTB> 20th August after my 30+10 days free trial ran out and it stopped MeTB> working. I could have waited 11 days, MeTB> downloaded version 3 with another free trial and then just paid 40 MeTB> pence extra. For any further development and promised bug fixes now it MeTB> looks as if MeTB> I shall have to pay another 14 GBP. They have screwed me for MeTB> £13.60 ] Hi Mike. Even tho I'm frustrated, you are frustrated & many others are frustrated w the v2-> v3 licensing situation, I've always found the RIT Lab guys a pretty reasonable group. They are senstive to many groups, i.e. students, etc. I don't imagine RITLabs telling you to stuff it if you explain your situation to them. I wouldn't assumed a screwing until it actually happens. That's my .02 -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v3.0 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folder Problem
On Sunday, August 29, 2004 it appears that Alexander wrote the following in regards to "Virtual Folder Problem": A> I'm trying to set up a Virtual Folder that contains all mail correspondence A> *from* and *to* the members of a specific address book group (with threaded A> view, would be very handy to watch all kinds of private conversations with A> these people). Sounds easy... [big snip] A> I then selected my inbox and my sent folder to be watched, and after A> clicking OK it takes a moment until I get an "out of memory" error. After A> that, the selected folders are de-selected again (which may be a security A> measure, in case the VF doesn't work?). When I select the same folders A> again, I sometimes get the same error again, sometimes TB becomes A> completely unresponsive. A> Now, I have some 3500 mails in my sent folder, but: doing the exact same A> thing with a VF that is looking for mails from or to *one* specific A> person/mail address only works without problems. So, I assume it A> is a bug [/snip] Hi Alexander. I tried your experiment but set it up a little differently. However in this case I don't think it makes a difference because I encountered a similar problem as the one you describe. For the record, this was my set up: recipient = a sender = a subject = b message = b selected folders: in & known in several accounts As soon as I clicked ok after setting up all the parameters, TB! froze. The next time I tried it, it shuddered but then completed the task. But it was not an easy process for TB! and I had it searching folders that had only a few messages in them. So my conclusion is that there probably is a problem somewhere. Now I'm using a beta version so I'm going to take the liberty of cross posting this on the beta list. Hope you don't mind. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/8 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004 it appears that Thomas Martin wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros": TM> Following order is proofed: TM> 1. AntiVirus Plugin TM> 2. AntiSpam Plugin TM> 3. Filters of the Filtermanager Hi Thomas. Thank you for proofing. That answers that question. TM> But there seams to be a other problem with the statistics. E-mail TM> which BayesIt classifies as good Mail because of a match in the own TM> whitelist are not counted as good mails in the statistic. They don't TM> appear there. Other experiences? I don't think it correctly counts the spam mails that are caught by black list either. It may be counting every piece that is marked manually but otherwise I don't know where to go with this. But that's my suspicion. So maybe the problem is *both* blacklist *&* whitelist. That might explain the wide discrepancies in the figures. TM> But how ever, the plugin works incredible good for what it is TM> designed. Killing Spam. Good Job. But a good and correct statistic TM> would be fine. Agreed. Seems to be working ok. I suppose I should be grateful for little favors. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/8 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Thursday, August 26, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros": >> So, tonight I have 376 msgs in my junk folder. I marked none of them as >> junk, i.e. they were all junked automatically -- presumably by BayesIT. >> So here are my stats ASK> Those 376 junk mails are a "total", correct? Hi Alexander. yes. However, at this point I have 651. ASK> I mean... >> Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) ASK> ... :-) >> Anyone have any ideas beyond the notion that the macros don't work. Or >> put it another way, has anyone found that the macros do work & represent >> some real numbers? ASK> Try replacing the "(24)" hours in the macro call with a number large enough ASK> to give a "totals" value maybe? Changed to 48 hrs. Stats: Spam Stats, last 48 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Total Spam Emails: 69 Total Clean Emails: 286 BayesIT guessed right 99.478261% of the time My email is 19.43662% spam Then for kicks I selected all msgs in junk file <651> and marked them as junk manually. BayesIT went thru training. Stats below. So I'll have to go with my conclusion until someone comes up with a definitive answer about BayesIT stats. Spam Stats, last 48 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Total Spam Emails: 70 Total Clean Emails: 288 BayesIT guessed right 99.471429% of the time My email is 19.553073% spam Thanks, -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004 it appears that MAU wrote the following in regards to "Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'": >> Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? M> Yes, mayonnaise ;-) Sometimes this is a very entertaining list. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros": ASK> 24-Aug-2004 19:25, you wrote: >> Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) >> Total Spam Emails: 2 >> Total Clean Emails: 186 >> BayesIT guessed right 99.5% of the time >> My email is 1.06383% spam >> Now what? ASK> Apparently, something is pretty wrong with the Bayesit stats. :-} ASK> [my opinion, the more I read about it here: BayesIt is a strange thing... ASK> apparently, it works... but do its programmers know why it works? No ASK> offense intended:-] Hi Alexander. So as advertised, I de-activated all my TB! filters even though I understand BayesIT filters are supposed to do their work before the TB! filters. So, tonight I have 376 msgs in my junk folder. I marked none of them as junk, i.e. they were all junked automatically -- presumably by BayesIT. So here are my stats Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Total Spam Emails: 5 Total Clean Emails: 155 BayesIT guessed right 99.4% of the time My email is 3.125% spam Anyone have any ideas beyond the notion that the macros don't work. Or put it another way, has anyone found that the macros do work & represent some real numbers? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: auto-marking bayesIT junk mail as read
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz wrote the following in regards to "auto-marking bayesIT junk mail as read": >> For the life of me I can't figure out how to auto-mark all junk mail >> filtered by bayesIT as read junk. ASK> Preferences / Protection / Anti-Spam has a little checkbox in the lower ASK> part of the settings screen that does this. :-) Hi Alexander. Like I said, it was right in front on my nose. Thanks for your quick reply. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz wrote the following in reply to my comments re: to "BayeIT Macros": >> Yes, of course you are right about your second poing but, just to be >> stubborn for one more moment, If BayesIT filters see msgs before TB! >> filters then this would not be necessary, right? And I can't get a >> definite answer to this question yet. ASK> It doesn't matter wether BayesIt comes first or TB's filters come first ASK> when processing messages. If a message passes BayesIt as not spam (while it ASK> actually is spam) and your filter picks it up as being spam, how would ASK> BayesIt ever know the message was spam? Or what do you mean? Hi Alexander. What I mean is if BayesIT filters come first & I de-activated all my own TB! filters, then I can see how accurate BayesIT is. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
auto-marking bayesIT junk mail as read
Battyfolk, For the life of me I can't figure out how to auto-mark all junk mail filtered by bayesIT as read junk. It's probably right in front of my nose, but in the event, it isn't available, may I suggest that it should be a bayesIT configuration option. Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I access Usenet (nntp) groups using TBat!?
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that subscriber2list wrote the following in regards to "Can I access Usenet (nntp) groups using TBat!?": s> [snip] what news reader software (preferably on the free side, but s> ... ) do you folks use/recommend? [/snip] Xnews http://xnews.newsguy.com/ -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Andre Wichartz
wrote the following in reply to my comments re: to "BayeIT Macros":
AW> [snip] If BayesIT filters see msgs
AW> JR> before TB! filters then this would not be necessary, right? And I
AW> JR> can't get a definite answer to this question yet.
AW> The plugins come before the filters.
OK, Thank you.
So, tonight, as an experiment, I am going to empty my junk file
and de-activate all my active spam filters to see what happens
over the next 24hrs.
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros": ASK> If I were you, I'd disable your own filters that catch spam temporarily, and ASK> only train BayesIt for a while. After all, it is a *learning* filter that ASK> increases in precision the more you teach it (by telling it what is spam ASK> and what is not), and not a statistics tool. :-) Hi Alexander. Yes, of course you are right about your second poing but, just to be stubborn for one more moment, If BayesIT filters see msgs before TB! filters then this would not be necessary, right? And I can't get a definite answer to this question yet. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Zonnet wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros": Z> ,- [ ] Z> | Spam Letters:%STATSPAMLETTERS(48) Z> | Spam traffic: %STATSPAMTRAFFIC(48) Z> | Stat no spam leters: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(48) Z> | Stat no spam Trafic: %STATNONSPAMTRAFFIC(48) Z> | Stat spam letters: %STATSPAMERLETTERS(48) Z> | Stat spam Traffic: %STATSPAMERTRAFFIC(48) Z> | Stat no spam letters: %STATNONSPAMERLETTERS(48) Z> | Stat no spam traffic: %STATNONSPAMERTRAFFIC(48) Z> `- Z> Do you know the difference between all these? Nope :-( Z> I have not figured it out Z> and if you use the wrong one you could get strange results. Z> That is what I meant. Take a look @ Menu -> Options | Preferences | Plug-Ins Click plug-in click Information Scroll down to the bottom That's information that is made available by BayesIT via QT macro. I haven't tried them all, just the one that was posted to see what it would do -- not too much as it turns out. Sorry, I wish I knew what I was doing -- or even talking about for that matter. It just doesn't make sense to me unless TB! filters are second to BaeyesIT filters but no one has confirmed that. And even then, the numbers wouldn't make sense but at least I'd have a starting point. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Zonnet wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros": Z> ON Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 7:25:53 PM, you wrote: Z> JR> Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Z> JR> Total Spam Emails: 2 Z> JR> Total Clean Emails: 186 Z> JR> BayesIT guessed right 99.5% of the time Z> JR> My email is 1.06383% spam Z> Well, (2/(186+2))*100%= 1.0638% so that is correct. Z> I am not sure how BayesIT calculates the "guessed right" statistic but I Z> would assume that it looks at how many Spam or Ham msg you correct by Z> using the "mark as (NOT) junk " function. Geez, why would I do that? I'd be busy most of my day. Or am I missing something? Z> The question is did you receive 188 email within the last 24 hours? Z> Could it be 48 hours because you are using the wrong functions? Actually I've rcvd 97 pieces of Junk Mail within the last 24 hours so the calculation seems to be double the actual #. And I don't know what wrong function you refer to? What do you mean? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz wrote the following in reply to my comments re: "BayeIT Macros": ASK> 24-Aug-2004 18:33, you wrote: >> Hi Gerard. If that's the case, then do you have any ideas to explain >> the difference between the BayesIT stats & the # of junk emails I >> have in my current file? ASK> Do you have your own filters that deal with junk email, too? Yes ASK> If those ASK> aren't caught by BayesIt and you sort them to the same junk email folder, ASK> that would explain the difference. Doesn't this depend on whether BayesIT screens before or after TB! filters -- that's one thing I'm trying to find out. If it's before, then the stats are dead wrong. If it's after that might explain some of the difference but see below. ASK> For a start, use your junk email to train BayesIt with them: mark all of ASK> the junk mails [snip] should at least ASK> make a significant difference on the false negatives statistics: the ASK> percentage value that says "...guessed right 99.5% of the time" should drop ASK> a lot if BayesIt only detected 2 mails while in reality 95 mails were junk, ASK> ahem... :-) OK, did as you suggested. Here are "new" stats: Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Total Spam Emails: 2 Total Clean Emails: 186 BayesIT guessed right 99.5% of the time My email is 1.06383% spam Now what? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Zonnet wrote the following in reply to my comments re: "BayeIT Macros": Z> JR> I do use other filters to move obvious spam to my spam folder, Z> JR> thereby bypassing the BayesIT filter. Could that explain the Z> JR> difference between the real #s & the reported #s? Z> I don't think you are bypassing BasesIT. Baseyit works before TB! get its Z> hands on it, so it is BayesIT first and than your filters. Hi Gerard. If that's the case, then do you have any ideas to explain the difference between the BayesIT stats & the # of junk emails I have in my current file? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros": MLW> I let BayesIT filter everything that is spam. I use no external MLW> notifier, and no internal spam filters. Therefore, that could be the MLW> problem And I see from your stats, BayesIT is running at nearly 100% accuracy. I guess a user couldn't ask for much more than that. Something for me to think about although I don't know if there's a difference in processing one way or the other but it would certainly free up the TB! filtering system to deal with other housekeeping matters. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson wrote the following in reply to my comments re: "BayeIT Macros": MLW> There is no filter action, except the filters built into BayesIT. As MLW> BayesIT works, it is constantly updating its records and database to MLW> be current. At any time, you can query this data through the macros. Hi Michael. OK, I think it's sinking in. But here's my problem or what started me down this road: In my junk file I currently have 95 msgs from today Yet here's the stat output Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11) Total Spam Emails: 2 Total Clean Emails: 182 BayesIT guessed right 99.5% of the time My email is 1.086957% spam So there's a problem somewhere unless I'm totally off the wall. I do use other filters to move obvious spam to my spam folder, thereby bypassing the BayesIT filter. Could that explain the difference between the real #s & the reported #s? MLW> To see detailed BayesIT stats, go to options->preferences->Plugins. MLW> Highlight BayesIT and click information. Thanks, this was interesting. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson wrote the following in reply to my comments re: "BayeIT Macros": MLW> JR> Michael, Sorry to be dense but what does this QT macro look at & how MLW> JR> do you use it -- as an "run an external" -- & if so where do you place MLW> JR> it? TIA . MLW> This QT macro shows the current status of BayesIT, the MLW> anti-spam plug-in for The Bat!. It uses built in macros from BayesIT MLW> and can, therefore, only be used if BayesIT is installed. Understand that. But what I'm trying to find out is what is the macro looking at? Incoming mail? Is it part of a filter action? Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question(s). -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
On Monday, August 23, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson
wrote the following in regards to "BayeIT Macros":
MLW> My current macro set is
MLW> =
MLW> Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION)
MLW> Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24)
MLW> Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)
MLW> BayesIT guessed right %-
MLW> %calculate="100-(%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24))"%%
of the time
MLW> My email is %-
MLW>
%Calc("100*%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)/(%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24))")%%
spam
MLW> =
Michael, Sorry to be dense but what does this QT macro look at & how
do you use it -- as an "run an external" -- & if so where do you place
it? TIA .
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT scoring
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Andre Wichartz wrote the following in regards to "BayesIT scoring": AW> Graham: 1 AW> Spam-grade: 1 AW> That's the spam probability (don't ask me for the difference of the AW> two) AW> Value for The Bat!: 99 AW> That's the score that's given two tb! for which you can tell tb what to AW> do in the options. Hi Andre. Are you saying that the black/white list rules are basically +/- 99 -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to a different Address Book in Sorting Office rule
On Saturday, August 21, 2004 it appears that Dan Grunberg wrote the following in regards to "Adding addresses to a different Address Book in Sorting Office rule": DG> According to TheBat! => Help: DG> "Add addresses to Address Book - this function allows you to maintain DG> your address book and is especially useful for maintenance of your DG> mailing lists. You can choose which addresses to pick from the DG> message and which address book groups the address is added to." Dan, I think the problem is that this is available with OSF but not NSF. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/6 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
On Saturday, August 14, 2004 it appears that Alexander wrote the following in regards to "Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups": ASK> Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress ASK> books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? Hi Alexander. I don't see any advantages of using different address books unless I am creating a mailing list of some kind where each person is addressed individually. Otherwise, I use one AB with groups as it's easier to filter for. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/5 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
On Saturday, August 07, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the following in regards to "Harvest Sender Email Addresses??": PH> Addressbook group did not get any additions. PH> Seems like it should work but nothing happens. PH> ??? Here's a copy of my filter which worked. except for one little thing: the msgs in the folder were moved/deleted somewhere... I'm not sure yet *but* the addresses were harvested. Rule= Active Manual only = true Options Tab Execute action check selected msgs against rule this rule is executed by pressing hotkey BeginFilter Name: test Active: 1 Source: \\SNET \Inbox Target: \\SNET \Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00@ Actions: faAddAddress,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoHKCheckMsg,faoHotKeyOnly AddGroups: test DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 123 IsOfColour: SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the following in regards to "Harvest Sender Email Addresses??": JR>> I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @ JR>> filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book PH> I have a folder full of email messages. PH> I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of PH> the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory. Hi Pete. I assume all msgs have been read. Open Sorting office Click on 'Read' Messages Click 'New' At strings add "@" w/o quotes Under Actions Tab select "Add address to Address Book" Select 'Sender (from)' Add to Groups Under Options Tab Select Execute action set of this rule by pressing the Hot Key That should do it for you. If not, maybe someone else will have a better idea. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/2 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: selective quoting
On Saturday, August 07, 2004 it appears that rich gregory wrote the following in regards to "selective quoting": rg>>> Can't I highlight text in a received mssg then choose to forward to rg>>> reply to it and only have the highlight text quoted, with the rest of rg>>> the original email ignored? JR>> yes. rg> May I suggest that if text in a received email is highlighted and then rg> a reply is initiated that it should be assumed that the reply is meant rg> to perform this F4 function by default? huh? errrr... I think that's what happens now. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/3 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: selective quoting
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that rich gregory wrote the following in regards to "selective quoting": rg> Can't I highlight text in a received mssg then choose to forward to rg> reply to it and only have the highlight text quoted, with the rest of rg> the original email ignored? yes. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/3 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the following in regards to "Harvest Sender Email Addresses??": JR>> I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @ JR>> filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book PH> I have a folder full of email messages. PH> I would like to -- automagically, extract from each message the email address of PH> the sender and append it to a text file in a specified directory. Hi Pete. I assume all msgs have been read. Open Sorting office Click on 'Read' Messages Click 'New' At strings add "@" w/o quotes Under Actions Tab select "Add address to Address Book" Select 'Sender (from)' Add to Groups Under Options Tab Select Execute action set of this rule by pressing the Hot Key That should do it for you. If not, maybe someone else will have a better idea. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/2 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Pete Holsberg wrote the following in regards to "Harvest Sender Email Addresses??": >>> One is to write a filter that add the name to an address book when they >>> arrive. YOu can export these later to a CSV file which you can read into a >>> spreadsheet or word processor or... etc. BM>> The question (IMHO) asks about multiple From addresses in a single message, not BM>> multiple messages in a folder. PH> Sorry to be ambiguous. What I want is to harvest each From address from PH> a group of email messages. Hi Pete. I may not understand what you want either but have you looked @ filters | actions | Add address(es) to Address Book -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/2 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Darrin Rich wrote the following in regards to "The Bat!: Email program or Toy?": DR> [snip] I enjoy seeing the DR> faces of people here in the forum, adds a nice personal touch to it I DR> think. Of course, just my opinion. [/snip] ... as was mine, my opinion. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/2 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?
On Friday, August 06, 2004 it appears that Cory wrote the following in regards to "The Bat!: Email program or Toy?": C> I feel I should add I'd rather see TB getting developed as a tool, and C> not as a toy in the sense of the lately added smileys and rogues. It's C> more useful to put efforts into solving existing problems than to add C> playful functionality, which only adds to the complexity of the sw and C> distract from the essence of e-mail, especially for the professional C> user. A solid and (virtually) bug-free mail client might even attract C> more corporate users then there are now. I tend to agree with your comments, Cory. All the s & r's are for the email kids who have time to play. Not all of us do. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/2 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help w/Color group filter for specific people
On Wednesday, August 04, 2004 it appears that Allie Martin wrote the following in regards to "Help w/Color group filter for specific people": >> I'm not sure that you're doing anything wrong. I think the function >> is not working properly. I've found problems with this on my system >> & it has been confirmed by others. AM> I thought you had problems with actions being carried out on messages AM> being filtered based on their colour group assignment? Nope. The other way around. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/1 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help w/Color group filter for specific people
On Wednesday, August 04, 2004 it appears that Darrin Rich wrote the following in regards to "Help w/Color group filter for specific people": DR> I tried to create a filter that will apply a specific color DR> group to 3 specific people in my address book. [snip] DR> what I could be doing wrong? Hi Darrin. I'm not sure that you're doing anything wrong. I think the function is not working properly. I've found problems with this on my system & it has been confirmed by others. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/1 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
junk mail folder doesn't count
Battyfolks, For many days I have been experimenting: setting my junk mail folder to limit # of msgs. It doesn't seem to be working here. Can anyone else confirm? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! not counting correctly
Battyfolks, I submit that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is no longer counting messages correctly. I have a folder that is limited to 50 msgs - keeping msgs for zero days, remove old msgs, compress folder, that currently contains 159 msgs. Yes, I know that TB! needs to be closed & re-opened to count. I've done that. TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Automatic "Remove Duplicates"
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Automatic "Remove Duplicates" : BC>> Is there a way to automatically execute the "Remove Duplicates" BC>> function after each receive session? RO> Not without a third party tool like power pro how would you do it with Power Pro? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filter action not working
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Allie posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in in response to my question re: filter action not working : >> I think this also applies to flagging & moving so I'm of the >> opinion that it's a problem of 2nd level actions all around. AM> To me, the problem is with the matching. If you try similar second AM> level filtering but instead use a string match rather than a colour AM> group match, you'll see that the actions are carried out just fine AM> whether it be moving flagging, deleting or a combination of those. OK, thanks. will test this on my machine. Nevertheless it seems to me TB! should match on color. Do you think this qualifies as buglet & should be reported as such? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filter action not working
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Allie posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to filter action not working : AM> So it would seem to be that there's a problem with filters being AM> applied when the automatically when the matching criterion is based on AM> colour group. Ah! Thank you. Finally someone agrees with me. However, I think this also applies to flagging & moving so I'm of the opinion that it's a problem of 2nd level actions all around. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filter action not working
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to filter action not working : JR>> Now have it set to flag msg as action. So far no luck. I'm JR>> thinking TB! doesn't respond to 2nd level action. What JR>> do you JR>> think? RO> Sometimes I had bad luck with filters that moved a message and RO> wanted to execute some other action too, but for the rest I've RO> never had any problems with multiple actions. Want to do a test on your machine to see what happens? filter one marks certain msgs with color group, marks as read, continue filtering filter two flags msgs in the above color group. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filter action not working
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to filter action not working : JR>> I have tried unsuccessfully to get to TB! to take an JR>> action > tried 3: flag, delete or move> on msgs that has been JR>> assigned to a JR>> color group. JR>> Is this not possible to do? RO> It should be possible. RO> Two questions. Set up that way but just checked again before responding. RO> 1) Are you sure that the filter supplies the color coding is RO> being run *before* the delete filter (It should above the RO> delete filter in the list) yes. RO> 2) Do you have the option 'Continue processing with other RO> filters' checked? yes. Now have it set to flag msg as action. So far no luck. I'm thinking TB! doesn't respond to 2nd level action. What do you think? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell-check the subject
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Charles posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Spell-check the subject : CMG> Isn't there a system-level spell checker available for CMG> Windows. yes. tinyspell -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filter action not working
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Mica posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to filter action not working : MM> If I understand well, you expect that TB deletes messages from MM> server If is not, then is word about "reader MM> limitation". (: Thanks for your reply. Still reviewing your extensive filter explanation from earlier post. As for this post, I don't expect TB! to do the impossible, i.e. delete color code msgs on server but I do expect TB! to delete or move or flag on my system & that is what is not working. Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
filter action not working
Battyfolks, I have tried unsuccessfully to get to TB! to take an action on msgs that has been assigned to a color group. I have tried this via inbox & via read msgs. Is this not possible to do? If you are wondering why I am doing this, it goes like this: I asked TB! to color code specifically annoying spam. TB! was successful @ this task. Then I added the next level to flag to test it again. Also tested w move. I've done these tests because my goal is to delete these msgs from the server so I want to be sure I'm not getting any f/p. I guess if the color coding is working properly I can assume that my filter is working properly, nevertheless I don't understand why TB! isn't taking this 2nd level action. Maybe it's a TB! limitation. Or a user limitation. Any thoughts or explanation would be appreciated. TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG Anti Virus plug in not working?
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, John posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to AVG Anti Virus plug in not working? : JP> I ran the PcCillin free scan on my pc JP> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ JP> and for the third time in a row, it picked up two viruses JP> (virii?) in Bat attachments which AVG missed. JP> Is the AVG plug in faulty, or is AVG generally not as good as JP> PcCillin? For what it's worth, I've tried them all & have found that NOD32 has been the most proficient in getting rid of virii -- all of them to date. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter to move msgs assigned to color group not working
Battyfolks, Here's the filter referenced in the subject heading. It's not working. Anyone got any ideas why not. TIA BeginFilter Name: DELETE - all msgs in DELETE COLOR GROUP Active: 1 Source: \\IDT\Inbox Target: \\IDT\$JUNK$\Test folder CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00@ Actions: faDelMsg,faoAdvColor,faoAdvAddressOut,faoHotKeyOnly AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: delete AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 57412 IsOfColour: delete SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 4 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New spammer technique?
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Paul posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to New spammer technique? : jrsn>> First thing is to filter out all msgs that are not jrsn>> addressed to jrsn>> you. That will take care of the majority of the msgs. PC> this sounds backwards. Here is my idea: PC> 1. known filter for everyone in your AB PC> 2. all lists to separate folders PC> 3. SPAM folder for the rest I haven't really considered your solution. I was simply describing what works for me. Backwards/forwards makes little difference if it works. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right or maybe it's just me. : JR>> Ah... well. Let me be more specific then. This is not a JR>> folder JR>> in which I get one msg a day, this is my junk folder JR>> which gets JR>> dozens of msgs daily. Given that extra bit of JR>> information, what JR>> do you think now? RO> Then, to stay in line with your subject, I suspect it's just RO> you. I've got several folders that have limits set and all of RO> them check with their limits. Note that I let TB do the RO> counting, I didn't count the messages Thank god. I'm so happy to hear it's only me & that TB! is ok. I rest easy tonight with this knowledge. Thanks Roelof. :-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right or maybe it's just me. : RO>>> When you collect a message everyday in a certain RO>>> folder, that folder will always have one message more than RO>>> TB's setting. (Provided you open TB once everyday.) JR>> I'm not sure I follow this logic & don't understand why the JR>> folder should have one more msg than the given JR>> parameter. Why JR>> not 2 more or 4 more, etc.? RO> Because I supposed it was a folder that received 'a message RO> everyday' (as in one msg a day) and that was mostly because RO> you complained about 1 msg too many Ah... well. Let me be more specific then. This is not a folder in which I get one msg a day, this is my junk folder which gets dozens of msgs daily. Given that extra bit of information, what do you think now? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New spammer technique?
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Mica posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to New spammer technique? : MM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MM> Hash: SHA1 MM>***^\ ."_)~~ MM> ~( __ _"o Was Wed, 14 Jul 2004, at 08:21:37 -0400, MM>@ @ when [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> If there is interest in how to defeat spam w/o bayesit, it has >> been discussed quite frequently on this list &, >> in addition, I'd be happy to provide the basic filters I use to >> do the job for me. MM> That would be good to see how. I made some Selective Download filters, MM> using most frequently used spamers' patterns, and am getting about 1-3% MM> of spam after that work. What remains are addresses consisting from MM> random letters, eg.: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Have you some idea how MM> to define this random part, using Selective Download option, as for MM> instance "random_part@"? I'm not smart enough to do it that way. First thing is to filter out all msgs that are not addressed to you. That will take care of the majority of the msgs. Then I set all my filters for those subjects whom/that I know, i.e. mail lists, etc. Then I set all my filters for entries in my ABs. Finally, I flag those msgs which don't fall into any of those categories. Eventually a pattern emerges & I filter for that as well. I rarely, if ever, filter on content for the reasons that you cite. I really haven't changed my filters for months but just started to fool around again. I will tell you that between 175-300 pieces of email end up in my junk folder daily. And only rarely do I get a false/positive. And almost *never* do I find a piece of junk mail in my inbox. This was not my experience with Bayesit filtration & I subjected my filters to thousands of pieces of spam. I'm happy to amplify or help if you need further help. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right or maybe it's just me. : RO> Hallo jan, RO> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:35:22 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 18:35 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: JR>> If I set folder properties to limit 50 msgs in the folder, I JR>> get 51 msgs. If I set the limit to 49, TB! allows 50. RO> When you collect a message everyday in a certain RO> folder, that folder will always have one message more than RO> TB's setting. (Provided you open TB once everyday.) I'm not sure I follow this logic & don't understand why the folder should have one more msg than the given parameter. Why not 2 more or 4 more, etc.? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.
Battyfolks, If I set folder properties to limit 50 msgs in the folder, I get 51 msgs. If I set the limit to 49, TB! allows 50. Does anyone besides me think this is weird counting? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working : RO> were you just afraid that you might have overlooked RO> something? yes RO> When you'rew doubting a 'delete' filter, you can always set it RO> up as a 'move' filter, so you can follow its behaviour Excellent advice. In fact, I have been following this filter for a while. As a last step, I asked TB! to flag all msgs added to this color group . However, TB! didn't flag these msgs so I started to wonder. I guess I could try a move instead. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working : JR>> The idea is that certain msgs > filter> are set to a certain color code. With this filter JR>> these JR>> msgs are to be deleted. RO> You're mentioning that you want to delete messages belonging to a RO> certain colour group. RO> But at the advanced tab you've also checked that the sender and RO> all RO> recipients should be part of your AB. Is this intentional? I think it says should *NOT* be part of my AB &, yes, that is intentional. Advanced: Address(es) must not be listed in the address book Items: sender & all recipients Just being conservative since it is a delete filter which I will probably move to delete on server once I'm sure of it. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working
Battyfolks, See any fallacies in the following filter as I'm not sure it's working? The idea is that certain msgs are set to a certain color code. With this filter these msgs are to be deleted. BeginFilter Name: DELETE - all msgs in DELETE COLOR GROUP Active: 1 Source: \\IDT\Inbox Target: \\IDT\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00@ Actions: faDelMsg,faoAdvColor,faoAdvAddressOut,faoHotKeyOnly AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: delete AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 57412 IsOfColour: delete SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 4 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New spammer technique?
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Martin posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to New spammer technique? : C2>>> Any training suggestions for BayesIt? JR>> IMHO, you don't need bayesit to defeat 99.9% of all spam. I JR>> rarely see a spam & I don't use bayesit. MW> That was really helpful... Being less that courteous gets you nowhere with me. The poster did not ask for TB! filters. The poster asked for Bayesit suggestions. Mine is to dump it. If there is interest in how to defeat spam w/o bayesit, it has been discussed quite frequently on this list &, in addition, I'd be happy to provide the basic filters I use to do the job for me. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/4/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New spammer technique?
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Code posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to New spammer technique? : C2> Any training suggestions for BayesIt? IMHO, you don't need bayesit to defeat 99.9% of all spam. I rarely see a spam & I don't use bayesit. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/4/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: color code my own msgs filter position
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to color code my own msgs filter position : JR>> Or to put it another way, if I change the first string to JR>> 'sender' JR>> instead of kludges, it should work? RO> Yep. But it also seems that there was a buglet because now, with RC4, at least on my system, I can see the color group which I couldn't see before. Thanks, Roelof. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/4/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: color code my own msgs filter position
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to color code my own msgs filter position : JR>> The following filter which should mark my own msgs & then JR>> continue filtering so posts will be moved to proper folders JR>> doesn't seem to be working. RO> I best it doesn't work as intended. It picks all messages to RO> your current list address to, because it's looking for that in RO> the kludges. And just as the sending address is in the RO> kludges, so is the receiving address. Roelof, thanks for helping me out but, to be clear, are you saying everything is ok except that I include 'kludges' rather than sender & therefor it won't work? Or to put it another way, if I change the first string to 'sender' instead of kludges, it should work? Your idea of AB groups is certainly logical, probably 6 of one half dozen <12> of the other if I could just get it working :-) Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/3/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: color code my own msgs filter position
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to color code my own msgs filter position : JR>> The following filter which should mark my own msgs & then JR>> continue filtering so posts will be moved to proper folders JR>> doesn't seem to be working. RO> I best it doesn't work as intended. It picks all messages to RO> your current list address to, because it's looking for that in RO> the kludges. And just as the sending address is in the RO> kludges, so is the receiving address. I just noticed something -- perhaps a buglet. When I look at my own msg in the list, I can see that it is assigned to the color group but it does not show up that way in the msg list. hmm. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/3/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
color code my own msgs filter position
Battyfolks, The following filter which should mark my own msgs & then continue filtering so posts will be moved to proper folders doesn't seem to be working. It is @ the top of the filter list. Could that be the problem? If so, where should it go or do I have to totally restructure my filter? BeginFilter Name: Mark My Msgs Active: 1 Source: \\SNET\Inbox Target: \\SNET\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:1: 00Jan Rifkinson AltSet:2: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:3: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:4: 00[Jan Rifkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Bogart's Daddy, Inc.)] Actions: faoContinueProcessing,faSetColor AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: my_msgs AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/3/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Please ignore this test msg. Thank you.
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject)
[new msg IDT template] , -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: convert folder to common folder?
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 9Val posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to convert folder to common folder? : JR>> Is it possible to convert a folder to a common folder? And if JR>> so, how? > Quite simple FW> just move the folder outside the account by Ctrl+Shift+Left Val & Feli - Thanks very much for your response(s). Knew how to move folders but didn't realize that would make it true 'definition' of common folder. Simple is good. :-) Jan Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
convert folder to common folder?
Hello TBUDL, Is it possible to convert a folder to a common folder? And if so, how? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
open all threds command bug?
On my system, shortcut * no longer opens all msgs in folder. Can anyone confirm? Thanks, -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 Beta/1/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: An overview of the file structure please
Hi Roelof, At 4:25 PM on Sunday, June 20, 2004 Roelof Otten wrote the following in regards to An overview of the file structure please: JR>> In either case, it is my opinion that TB! installation is a JR>> PITA & shouldn't be @ this stage of its development. RO> As I just did a fresh install, I respectfully have to disagree with RO> you. I thought it went kind of easy. Are you sure that's due to your familiarity with the program? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 Beta/1/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: An overview of the file structure please
Hi Roelof, At 6:46 PM on Saturday, June 19, 2004 Roelof Otten wrote the following in regards to An overview of the file structure please: RO> It tells TB the names of the accounts, where to find them. RO> It stores the registration key, the sizes of the different screens RO> ans RO> where to place them on your desktop. RO> It stores everything you can edit at: RO> Options -> Preferences -> . RO> When you're not very familiar with TB, you might consider it RO> easier to RO> duplicate all of the settings you found with sweat and tears. RO> When you're an old hand at TB, you might consider to start with the RO> defaults, just to reconsider the settings you were working RO> with. In either case, it is my opinion that TB! installation is a PITA & shouldn't be @ this stage of its development. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 Beta/1/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
color group font setting
Playing around with color group font setting, I discovered that user can not assign individual fonts to a group color. Just to be clear, I'm not talking about font style, but the ability, for example, of choosing a script font for a particular color group in addition to the color/text/background options. Or am I missing something?\ -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 Beta/1/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange outbox error msg
Hi Thomas, At 9:18 AM on Saturday, June 12, 2004 you TF> wrote the following in response to my question re: strange outbox error msg: JR>>> While typing, a TB! error/warning window popped up noting that the JR>>> outbox (empty at that time) was not able to save the msg, then JR>>> approaching 2megs in size. JR>> I did when I saw error msg but error persisted. Buglet perhaps? TF> I side with Mica. Try hitting Save a couple of times and see whether TF> you can reproduce the error at will. At the time, I did try to save & reproduced the error. In addition, I removed the attachment & tried to save again w the same result. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Mark as intresting/irritating
Hi WilWilWil, At 10:01 AM on Sunday, June 13, 2004 you wrote the following Mark as intresting/irritating: JR>>> I use PP. Where can I d/l this wonderful sounding script? PM>> Have a look at www.rancho-k.com W> I've read the feature of rancho-k and he say that he develop W> this feature because he use TB for newsgroup. Thanks for the tip. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mark as intresting/irritating
Hi Peter, At 12:52 PM on Saturday, June 12, 2004 you PM> wrote the following Mark as intresting/irritating: PM> To assign a thread, you have to create a filter that PM> assigns the color group. Then you paste the message-ID of the PM> initial message in the filter to be present in kludges. PM> [x]Continue with other filters. PM> PM> The Bat! doesn't do this automatically, but if you, by chance, PM> use PowerPro, there is a nice script from another TBUDL member PM> that does it with one click. Same goes for "Ignore PM> user/thread". <\snip> I use PP. Where can I d/l this wonderful sounding script? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange outbox error msg
Hi Mica, At 8:56 AM on Saturday, June 12, 2004 you MM> wrote the following strange outbox error msg: MM> [...] noticed that when you write a letter, frequently doing MM> Ctrl+S (a habit under Windows), it seems that TB's editor [...] used memory MM> increases. You can check this out by compressing "outbox" MM> during writing a larger letter. [...] I suppose MM> that if you add an attachment *before* you have finished the MM> letter, this amount of memory might be even much larger. MM> [\...] I think this is probably what happened which makes it sound like a buglet to me. MM> I didn't, yet, get any "error" messages, but sometimes, TB MM> starts to act "strangely" in various ways [\...] Here too. This has been particularly true in the most current versions. I am going to un-install spam plug-in & see what happens. Thanks, -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange outbox error msg
Hi Thomas, Thanks for your response. At 8:28 AM on Saturday, June 12, 2004 you TF> wrote the following in response to my question re: strange outbox error msg: JR> While typing, a TB! error/warning window popped up noting that the JR> outbox (empty at that time) was not able to save the msg, then JR> approaching 2megs in size. TF> How is your disk space? 20 gigs available TF> Also, I heard that TB shows warnings when a TBB file exceeds 2 TF> GB. Have you ever compressed your Outbox? I did when I saw error msg but error persisted. Buglet perhaps? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
strange outbox error msg
This was a new one on me. I opened a new msg window I added a rather large attachment Then I started writing what turned out to be a rather long message. While typing, a TB! error/warning window popped up noting that the outbox (empty at that time) was not able to save the msg, then approaching 2megs in size. Don't know if this msg is connected to the split message setting, if it's a convenience, a buglet or something else. Whatever it was, I'd never seen it before. Anyone else? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
