Re: Address book entries not working after converting from Eudora
I tried the solution, and it will work to a degree, but it will require touching every single group, massaging them all into CSV or TXT files, and then importing them. That just isn't a reasonable solution. I'm still looking for a way to move the address books I had under Eudora containing the addresses and groups out from under the Personal Address Book where TB put them. That would probably be the ultimate solution. TB does advertise that it converts Eudora which is why I moved. I even paid for 5 copies so that I could convert a few family members too. But not converting address book entries correctly may make me reconsider. I'm beginning to think I should have waited to closer to the end of the 30 day trial before shelling out the hard cash. P.S. Actually Roelf, I did cancel a meeting to 700 people who I'd not emailed to before as a group. We have a newsletter, regular meetings, and a discussion list somewhat like this one we use. (Not everyone is on the discussion list). Regular email to the members isn't something we do very often. Just don't have that need at the moment. I don't believe I did it more than 5 - 6 times last year - twice due to weather. > Hallo Jim, > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:27:53 -0500GMT (8-2-03, 20:27 +0100, where I > live), you wrote: JK>> If what I'm reading makes sense, what you are both suggesting is JK>> that I need to create a single address entry for anyone whose JK>> email address I might want, > Yes. JK>> and then create a group, and then associate each individual email JK>> address with the group. > No, I'd go the other way around. Create a group and add members to it, > but that's a minor issue. JK>> For example, if a club I was associated with had 10,000 members, JK>> and I wanted to send them all an email from the club - let's say JK>> to tell them a meeting was cancelled due to a blizzard (which I JK>> just did actually in Eudora), I would first have to individually JK>> enter 10,000 email addresses to accomplish this? If that's the JK>> case the blizzard would be over before I was done... :-> This JK>> can't be true. > Of course it isn't true. What you're suggesting is ridiculous. You > wouldn't cancel a meeting with 1 people via e-mail when you'd > never mailed with them before. The concept is that you've got them in > your address book (AB) and that you maintain your AB whenever there's > a new member, a different address or a quitting member. JK>> I couldn't just dump all of the email addresses from the database, JK>> and paste them into a group somehow? > Yes you could, depending on the database you've got those addresses > in. It would mean that that you processed all those addresses to > address book entries associated with a single group. JK>> But Roelof's images raise another question. When TB converted my JK>> Eudora address lists, it dropped each of the address books, which JK>> each contained groups, I had under TBs 'The Personal Address JK>> Book.' How do I move them out from under it? I tried cutting and JK>> pasting with no success. > Cut and paste works for me when transporting AB-entries from one group > to another, so I suppose that's not what you meant. > It's possible that the concept behind TB's and Eudora's ABs are so > different that it's not possible to do a really good conversion. > But let's start from the beginning. You've got a database with 1 > blizzard evaders. Can you export that list to a csv-file (csv = comma > separated value), that means you've got a file that contains per > member one line containing: > first name, last name, e-mail address > If so, export to that > and import that into your AB > First create the AB-group 'No more blizzards' > Select that group and do > File -> Import from -> Comma-separated > That ought to do the trick. -- Jim Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book entries not working after converting from Eudora
If it does what I think you are suggesting it might work, but if I'm sending to a group of addresses where I'm not trying to hide whom I'm talkng to, like everyone on a board I'm on, that solution isn't a good one. The people in the BCC would start to wonder why they were getting BCC's on some issue. > Hello Jim Kilgannon, > On or about Saturday, February 08, 2003 at 09:34:52GMT -0500 > (which was 9:34 AM in the tropics where I live) Jim Kilgannon > posted: JK>>>> I've just converted from Eudora and I can't seem to get any JK>>>> of the groups of email address to work in the Bat. All I JK>>>> seem to get is the first email address which was in the JK>>>> list. > Wouldn't this work in a roundabout way if the tickbox for the > addressbook entry was set for BCC: all secondary addresses?? -- Jim Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book entries not working after converting from Eudora
Thanks. The examples helped point me in the right direction. And then Julian's answer gave me another clue I needed. If what I'm reading makes sense, what you are both suggesting is that I need to create a single address entry for anyone whose email address I might want, and then create a group, and then associate each individual email address with the group. For example, if a club I was associated with had 10,000 members, and I wanted to send them all an email from the club - let's say to tell them a meeting was cancelled due to a blizzard (which I just did actually in Eudora), I would first have to individually enter 10,000 email addresses to accomplish this? If that's the case the blizzard would be over before I was done... :-> This can't be true. I couldn't just dump all of the email addresses from the database, and paste them into a group somehow? But Roelof's images raise another question. When TB converted my Eudora address lists, it dropped each of the address books, which each contained groups, I had under TBs 'The Personal Address Book.' How do I move them out from under it? I tried cutting and pasting with no success. -- Jim Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book entries not working after converting from Eudora
I'm trying to send to a list of addressees. Something like addr1, addr2, addr3, etc. by using what I'm thinking are the converted groups from Eudora. When I enter the group name, all I see is the first address in the group list and not the entire list of addresses. Is this normal? When I view the RFC headers I only see the first email address in the list. I agree that it doesn't make sense. That's exactly my concern. But the other part of that question is, do I need to have commas after every address in the group list? And do I need to string them all out on the same line instead of addr1 addr2 addr3 ? > Hallo Jim, > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:15:33 -0500GMT (8-2-03, 4:15 +0100, where I > live), you wrote: JK>> I've just converted from Eudora and I can't seem to get any of the JK>> groups of email address to work in the Bat. All I seem to get is JK>> the first email address which was in the list. > What are you exactly trying to do? JK>> I've gone in and put commas after all of the entries and that JK>> hasn't seemed to have helped either. > Because this doesn't make any sense. JK>> Part 2 of this is, is there a way to expand the list of addresses JK>> so that you can see more than four or five at a time? > No. -- Jim Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address book entries not working after converting from Eudora
I've just converted from Eudora and I can't seem to get any of the groups of email address to work in the Bat. All I seem to get is the first email address which was in the list. I've gone in and put commas after all of the entries and that hasn't seemed to have helped either. It's probably some setting, but I can't find it anywhere. Part 2 of this is, is there a way to expand the list of addresses so that you can see more than four or five at a time? -- Jim Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding and Redirected messages are stalled
That worked. Thanks from a Bat newbie. Although, I have to admit, I haven't a clue why the default would be to just wait in the outbox for something which is set up as 'automatic' forwarding. > Hello Jim Kilgannon, > On or about Thursday, February 06, 2003 at 22:11:44GMT -0500 > (which was 10:11 PM in the tropics where I live) Jim Kilgannon > queried: JK>> I manage email to a group I belong to, and I've set up a filter so JK>> that email to the groups address will get redirected to someone else JK>> while I'm on vacation. JK>> When I tested this, everything seemed to work except that the JK>> forwarded and redirected emails are now just sitting in my Outbox, and JK>> have been for more than a day now. JK>> Any ideas on what I've missed? > Did you select IMMEDIATE DELIVERY in the filter Options _. Send > Messages tab of the filter? -- Jim Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Forwarding and Redirected messages are stalled
I manage email to a group I belong to, and I've set up a filter so that email to the groups address will get redirected to someone else while I'm on vacation. When I tested this, everything seemed to work except that the forwarded and redirected emails are now just sitting in my Outbox, and have been for more than a day now. Any ideas on what I've missed? -- Jim Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
