Re: Spell checker not working?

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello John,

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:15:52 +1100 GMT
(25.03.2008, 08:15 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:


JP> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, at 16:34:59 [GMT +1100] (16:34:59 25/03/2008
JP> Australian Eastern Time) I  wrote:

>> What am I missing here, and apologies for long sig;  company policy!


JP> Further investigation reveals that the dictionary has not been
JP> carried across when the "upgrade" was done.

JP> I've had a scratch around the Rit Labs web site, can't seem to find
JP> any there.

JP> As I am running the Pro edition, shouldn't the dictionarys be in the
JP> proggy?

Same problem here - no dictionary at all.

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Black Folders

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Fellow-Listers,

Last night, I was tired and decided to download 4.0.18 (professional).

Instead of my regular little folder icons, I suddenly find myself with
an ugly black box for each folder, and unable to re-install a previous
version over this current version. The folder bar at the top of the
screen is also quite askew.

Any quick work-around or should I remove TB! completely and then do a
reinstall of 3.99 ?

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Re: (no subject)

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Thomas,

you wrote:

TF> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:00:53 +0100
TF> Marek Mikus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Hello,
>> 
>>   
>> 
TF> Hello, too.

TF> -- 

TF> Cheers,

TF> Thomas.

Hello, three.

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Re: Accessing old attachments

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:04:44 +0700 GMT
(13.11.2007, 03:04 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

MM>> --B_3257177834_183071
MM>> Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mc Adam n° 1271.pdf"
MM>> Content-disposition: attachment;
MM>> filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mc%20Adam%20n%B0%201271.pdf
MM>> Content-transfer-encoding: base64

TF> Here should be the PDF file, looking like gibberish, as it is base64
TF> encoded. Did you cut this out before sending the mail, or is here
TF> nothing?
Nothing there - the only thing I have removed is the name and address
of the sender.

MM>> --B_3257177834_183071
MM>> Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mac Adam n° 1272.pdf"
MM>> Content-disposition: attachment;
MM>> filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mac%20Adam%20n%B0%201272.pdf
MM>> Content-transfer-encoding: base64

TF> Same here.

TF>>> I don't know much about what the internal backup does with
TF>>> attachments. Did the problem start after a restore?

MM>> I believe so, but in actual fact I've done at least two restores
MM>> this year, so I'm not sure when the damage was actually done. I've
MM>> just used Google Desktop Search and see (most belatedly, I'm
MM>> afraid) that the attachments were stored away in \Documents and
MM>> Settings...

TF> How did it get there...

Maybe that's where XP, in its wisdom, locks up all stray documents.

I really do appreciate all your detective work, Thomas, but, at the
moment, I do not have time to dig any deeper. I usually go along with
the TB! default settings.

Henceforth, though, I shall make a point of storing "external
attachments in message bodies" - perhaps this was the default setting
in some previous version...

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Re: Accessing old attachments

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:05:02 +0700 GMT
(12.11.2007, 14:05 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

TF> Why don't you c&p the headers of a mail with "lost" attachments here?
TF> You can neutralise the emails addresses and file names by replacing
TF> them with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and whatever.doc to protect your privacy.

Well, at the risk of overcharging the 'airwaves', here goes:


 --/ Begin copy and paste \

X-T2-Real-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Return-Path: 
Return-Path: < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.00 []
Received: from bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.155] verified)
  by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7)
  with ESMTP id 273212821 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:37:20 +0100
Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.130.16]) by bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com 
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668);
 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:37:19 -0700
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:37:19 -0700
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from 85.1.245.149 by BAY125-DAV6.phx.gbl with DAV;
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:37:18 +
X-Originating-IP: [85.1.245.149]
X-Originating-Email: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sender:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.3.061214
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:37:09 +0100
Subject: Factures n=?ISO-8859-1?B?sCA=?=1271, 1272 et 1274
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: 
Thread-Topic: Factures n=?ISO-8859-1?B?sCA=?=1271, 1272 et 1274
Thread-Index: AcdqVZnk2HXQ99ZIEdu6xQAWy5MolA==
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="B_3257177834_183071"
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2007 18:37:19.0582 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[A03327E0:01C76A55]
Return-Path:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: text/plain;
charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Bonsoir,

Vous trouverez en annexe les 3 premi=E8res factures.

A demain et bonne fin de soir=E9e

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mc Adam n° 1271.pdf"
Content-disposition: attachment;
filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mc%20Adam%20n%B0%201271.pdf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64

--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mac Adam n° 1272.pdf"
Content-disposition: attachment;
filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mac%20Adam%20n%B0%201272.pdf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64

--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mc Adam n°1274.pdf"
Content-disposition: attachment;
filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mc%20Adam%20n%B01274.pdf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64

--B_3257177834_183071--

X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.00 []
Received: from bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.155] verified)
  by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7)
  with ESMTP id 273212821 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:37:20 +0100
Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.130.16]) by bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com 
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Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:37:18 +
X-Originating-IP: [85.1.245.149]
X-Originating-Email: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sender:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.3.061214
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:37:09 +0100
Subject: Factures n=?ISO-8859-1?B?sCA=?=1271, 1272 et 1274
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: 
Thread-Topic: Factures n=?ISO-8859-1?B?sCA=?=1271, 1272 et 1274
Thread-Index: AcdqVZnk2HXQ99ZIEdu6xQAWy5MolA==
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="B_3257177834_183071"
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2007 18:37:19.0582 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[A03327E0:01C76A55]
Return-Path:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: text/plain;
charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Bonsoir,

Vous trouverez en annexe les 3 premi=E8res factures.

A demain et bonne fin de soir=E9e

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mc Adam n° 1271.pdf"
Content-disposition: attachment;
filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mc%20Adam%20n%B0%201271.pdf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64

--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mac Adam n° 1272.pdf"
Content-disposition: attachment;
filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mac%20Adam%20n%B0%201272.pdf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64

--B_3257177834_183071
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Mc Adam n°1274.pdf"
Content-disposition: attachment;
filename*=ISO-8859-1''Mc%20Adam%20n%B01274.pdf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64

--B_3257177834_183071--

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TF>>> Check out: Account / Properties / Files & Directories / Attachments / Keep
TF>>> attache

Re: Accessing old attachments

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Thomas,

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:44:44 +0700 GMT
(11.11.2007, 15:44 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

PM>>> I've come across an issue with my message base in TB. It appears
PM>>> that some attachments are no longer accessible from the original
PM>>> message. When I open such a message the attachment and its name is
PM>>> visible as normal, however on attempting to open the file I get an 
message:

PM>>> Contents of the attachment "whatever.doc" is not available

TF> When the message is in focus, press F9 to see the source.

TF> There are two possibilities:

TF> 1.) You are storing the attachments in the message body. Then you
TF> should see something like this after the text of the message:

TF> 14C4AD25CFBB4F
TF> Content-Type: application/msword;
TF>  name="whatever.doc"
TF> Content-transfer-encoding: base64
TF> Content-Disposition: attachment;
TF>  filename="whatever.doc"

TF> 0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/CQAGAAABbAAA
TF> EAAAbgEAAAD+AGsAAAD/
TF> [many more lines of gibberish]

TF> 2.) For some reason, you are storing attachments in a seperate file.
TF> Then, I believe TB! will have added an X-header showing where it
TF> expects the file to be.

Perhaps the X-header tells TB! where the file is, but for me it is all
gibberish.

MM>> I have exactly the same problem. I've had no time to explore the
MM>> situation, or look for solutions, but it was very frustrating to
MM>> lose the attachments.

TF> Check out: Account / Properties / Files & Directories / Attachments / Keep
TF> attached files in...

I have always gone along with the default position. For me this
behaviour is new, but henceforth I'll opt for keeping attachments with
the message - but more importantly, I guess (and thinking on my feet
now) I'll choose this option when I do a backup. Since I have done
quite a lot of restoring in the past from various backups, I am now
beginning to suspect that this could well be the source of the problem.
Many thanks.

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Re: Accessing old attachments

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Paul,

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:40:48 + GMT
(09.11.2007, 17:40 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

PM> I've come across an issue with my message base in TB. It appears
PM> that some attachments are no longer accessible from the original
PM> message. When I open such a message the attachment and its name is
PM> visible as normal, however on attempting to open the file I get an message:

PM> Contents of the attachment "whatever.doc" is not available

PM> I've run the Maintenance centre and this doesn't seem to fix the
PM> problem. Some attachments appear to be available but some aren't!
PM> Does anyone have any ideas about what might have gone wrong - or
PM> more importantly how I can access these attachments?

I have exactly the same problem.
I've had no time to explore the situation, or look for solutions, but
it was very frustrating to lose the attachments.

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Re: Antispam plugin

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Richard,

you wrote:

RW> On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 you wrote in
RW> 

MM>> I have tried installing the free version of Antispamsniper and also
MM>>the trial commercial version (1.7.0.8), but each time I exit The
MM>>Bat, I keep getting the error message:
MM>>"Unable to save the settings".

RW> You have associated it with TB! have you? Just a thought.
RW> Options/Preferences/Protection/Antispam and then you have to add
RW> Antispamsniper there. If you have done that I'm sorry for doubting your
RW> intelligence and can't think of what to suggest! :-)

RW> It might be worth going to the Sniper forum and asking there. The author
RW> is very much on the ball and answers problem posts very quickly.

Many thanks for your suggestion - I've just posted my query on the
forum.

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Re: Antispam plugin

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Batters!

RW> On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 you wrote in
RW> 

ASK>> Just a question, not directly to you, but isn't importing friendslists
ASK>> into the antispam program quite redundant when you also have an adress
ASK>> book in TB?

RW> Good point. I just automatically copied my friend list over from SpamPal
RW> when I changed programme and I think some of the addresses are not in my
RW> address book but I still want to mark them as friends so that they
RW> definitely aren't marked as spam. for someone installing it as a Spam
RW> filter programme for the first time it would certainly make sense to be
RW> able to import from the address book.

ASK>>  I just thought that it might be nice if an antispam plugin
ASK>> could access the AB and automatically whitelist the contacts.

RW> A very sensible suggestion.

   I have tried installing the free version of Antispamsniper and also
   the trial commercial version (1.7.0.8), but each time I exit The
   Bat, I keep getting the error message:
   "Unable to save the settings".

   What am I doing wrong?
   
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Re: Associating active account with specific email addresses

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Graham,

 On Sunday, October 22, 2006, 10:14:05 AM, which was 11:48:22 AM 
where I am, you wrote:

GS> I have two active accounts set up in The Bat.

GS> Some mail I want to send through one account and some through the
GS> other.

GS> While in the editor, I know I can select the active account. But is
GS> there any way of this being done automatically based on the recipients
GS> email address.

I have three active accounts.

I'd suggest the first thing to do would be to form a group, in the
address book, for individual recipients, e.g. Colleagues, Family, etc.
Then you right click on the name of the group in order to define its
properties.

In New Message you put
%ACCOUNT="GS1"Hello %tofname,

[where 'GS1' would be your first active account]
etc etc

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Re: Bad crash... HELP!

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Jernej,

 On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 11:16:30 PM, which was 8:06:40 AM 
where I am, you wrote:

JS> On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 23:07:21, Chris wrote:

>> You probably don't want to here this, but you hard drive may be bad.
>> After you recover the messages, I'd back everything up and run
>> something like SpinRite on the drive.

JS> Err, SpinRite is a scam, don't use it.
I bought it to recover my daughter's files on a memory stick. I was
unsuccessful. SpinRite would access the hard disks, but not the memory
stick.
They reimbursed - no questions asked.

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Re: Remind later

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Peter,

 On Friday, March 31, 2006, 12:14:06 AM, which was 11:31:28 AM 
where I am, you wrote:

>>> I have a VF folder but how do I direct the flagged mail to the VF
>>> folder within an account? Is that part of the filtering, if so how can
>>> I do it for all folders (account) simultaneously?

Marten>> You will only have one Virtual Folder that you would call @flagged'
Marten>> probably.

Marten>> Then right click on the folder name, select properties and click the 
FILTER
Marten>> tab.

Marten>> Click Use Fast Search and then Fast Search Types: Flagged.

Marten>> Probably you want AUTO-REFRESH ticked as well

Marten>> I also have Store State Between Sessions ticked - can't remember why
Marten>> though.

PK> Thanks for your help. I made a mistake by mixing up Folder with Tab.
PK> (I had a Virtual tab tried to get copies of flagged messages in but
PK> naturally it didn't work.).

PK> One more question: if I finished with this item, should I remove the
PK> flag in the "Flagged" folder and this would take care of it?

PK> I understand that if I delete the message in the flagged folder the
PK> original will go too. Is this so?

I understood the original question to be about flagging messages, so
that they get answered within a specific time frame. For my part, I
click on Reply, save the unfinished message in the Outbox, and wait
till I get time to reply.
What am I missing with Virtual Folders?

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Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Jack,

 On Thursday, February 9, 2006, 4:47:00 AM, which was 6:21:37 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

>>> I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using
>>> the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative
>>> antivirus program.

NL>> I just set up on a new laptop and had the same problem with AVG. have
NL>> not investigated much yet, but check to see if the proxy servers are
NL>> checked and on. This can result in sending failure with TB. AVG always
NL>> been good to me :)

JSL> I use AVG also and have never had any trouble with it. No viruses have
JSL> infected my machine (AFAIK) but, AVG has never told me it intercepted
JSL> a virus. Which makes me wonder... Anybody know a way to test the
JSL> functionality of whatever AV is being used?

http://www.eicar.com/anti_virus_test_file.htm#dl ?

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Re: Trouble with Connection Centre

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Roelof,

 On Thursday, February 2, 2006, 1:28:18 PM, which was 5:23:45 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

RO> On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:52:59 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 12:52 +0100, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

RD>> From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to
RD>> check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is
RD>> GMX and is **usually** this one too.

RO> That's a long time issue. When an already established connection with
RO> a server fails, the CC (and TB) gets stuck.
RO> It's not very strange that it's the same server most of the time,
RO> because it has something to do with the quality of your connection to
RO> the server and gmx is supposed to be on the other side of the world
RO> for you.
I've had the same problem for many months now, despite ADSL and a local
ISP.

RO> Of course it can be related to the time you're connected to the
RO> server, suppose you get ten times as much mail from gmx as from the
RO> rest, then it's got ten times as likely that that connection fails
RO> when you've got a bad connection from your ISP.

RO> So, in other words: It's a known issue and it's not strange that it's
RO> often the same connection.

RO> I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, but you could
RO> consider to check the mail less frequently. That lessens the chance of
RO> failure.
I find that a rather strange suggestion. I have arranged my settings
so that TB! downloads mail on startup; I've also tried to download,
only when I do Ctrl-F2, with many shades in-between (I even purchased
the Professional Edition), but all with very relative degrees of
success.

Logically, I guess, if I stopped trying to access my email for a week,
I would be free of the problem for a good seven days...

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Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Bob,

 On Friday, January 20, 2006, 7:23:24 AM, which was 8:44:58 AM 
where I am, you wrote:

BM> A "friend" sent me a message with a _very_ large attachment (several
BM> MB) which was taking forever to download. (I'm on dial-up.)  I aborted
BM> the procedure and directly accessed my ISP mailbox via web-mail and
BM> deleted the offending message along with everything else in my in-box.
BM> Now whenever I attempt to check for new mail on that account The Bat!
BM> reports that it is downloading the messages that I have already
BM> deleted and just sits there at 0% received for however long I remain
BM> connected. As a check I have accessed the offending account both via
BM> web-mail and by PocoMail, both of which report that there is no mail
BM> currently in the account.

BM> I figure that there must be some sort of cache that The Bat! is
BM> referring to and that it thinks that there is still mail to retrieve.
BM> I have closed The Bat! down (several times) and also rebooted the
BM> computer a couple of times as well with no change.  Any ideas on how I
BM> can clear whatever is that is locking things up?

I had a similar type of problem with large attachments, and kept
getting warned by my ISP that my account quota was close to the limit.

Have you tried emptying the trash folder on your web-mail?

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Re: Testing

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Marck,

 On Tuesday, January 10, 2006, 09:11:46 AM, which was 10:34:06 AM
where I am, you wrote:

MDP> @10-Jan-2006, 10:09 +0100 (10-Jan 09:09 here) Maurice McAdam [MM] in
MDP> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP> ... 
TF>>>> problem. Anyone else having POP hanging issues?

MDP>>> Yes!!! If there is a glitch on the network and a packet goes missing,
MDP>>> there is a timeout missing within the CC that leaves the account
MDP>>> completely locked until you notice it. The only way out is killing the
MDP>>> TB task and restarting.

MM>> Does that mean that if there is _no_ CC in a message, the account
MM>> will not lock up?

MDP> That's "CC" as in Connection Centre, not "CC" as in Courtesy Copy.
Thanks for clearing that up - so it's back to the ole
three-finger-salute (Ctrl-Alt-Del), we have really come a long way
, nothing more to be done...

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Maurice

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Re: Testing

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Marck,

 On Tuesday, January 10, 2006, 9:22:53 AM, which was 10:05:14 AM 
where I am, you wrote:

MDP> @10-Jan-2006, 09:24 +0700 (10-Jan 02:24 here) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in
MDP> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Matt:

TF>> I think you meant to send this to the list and not to my PM.

MDP> Thanks for re-posting this!

TF>> This is a forwarded message
TF>> From: Matt Thoene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF>> To: Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF>> CC: 
TF>> BCC: 
TF>> Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2006, 1:30:14 AM
TF>> Subject: Testing

TF>> ===8<==Original message text===
TF>> On Monday, January 9, 2006 @ 4:48:02 AM [-0700], Thomas Fernandez wrote:

MT Haven't seen anything since Fridayjust testing.

>>> There have been several messages over the weekend.

TF>> Aha! Looks like I have a hanging POP task with one of my accounts. I
TF>> cannot delete or abort it either. Only a restart of TB fixes the
TF>> problem. Anyone else having POP hanging issues?

MDP> Yes!!! If there is a glitch on the network and a packet goes missing,
MDP> there is a timeout missing within the CC that leaves the account
MDP> completely locked until you notice it. The only way out is killing the
MDP> TB task and restarting.

Does that mean that if there is _no_ CC in a message, the account
will not lock up?

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Re: Connection Centre hung > The Bat is not responding

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Paul,

 On Sunday, December 4, 2005, 5:18:36 AM, which was 12:52:59 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

PB> Is there a better way to recover from this?

PB> When downloading mail, it stopped on the last email, so I forced exit
PB> from Task Manager.
I have had to do this regularly. Most annoying.
I have unchecked "Check Mailbox at Startup" and when I want to
download mail, I now do it via  "Account" "Dispatch Mail on Server".
So far, anyway, that avoids me having to use Task Manager.

PB> Then The Bat would open but not respond.
Fortunately, for me, it's never gotten that bad.

PB> So I uninstalled The Bat, ran Registry Mechanic to clean registry,
PB> Reboot
PB> Install from scratch
PB> Tools - Restore from the last backup.

PB> Luckily the backup was only 3 days old.

PB> The filters and sub-folders (of the Inbox) did not restore, and have
PB> to be rebuilt.

PB> Does anyone know of a quicker or better fix if this happens again?


PB> (I sent this earlier, but it seemed to bounce. So trying again.)

PB> -- 

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Maurice

Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP Pro 
 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



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MAQ (Most frequently answered questions)

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello tbudl,

I read in the monthly statement that

"There  is also a beginners 'MAQ' (Most Asked Questions) available by
 clicking  here:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  and
 sending the resulting message."

I have tried twice to get this, unsuccessfully...

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Maurice

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MAQ (Most frequently answered questions)

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello tbudl,

I read in the monthly statement that

"There  is also a beginners 'MAQ' (Most Asked Questions) available by
 clicking  here:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  and
 sending the resulting message."

I have tried twice to get this, unsuccessfully...

-- 
Regards,
Maurice

Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP Pro 
 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re: TB won't close after connection centre hangs

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Marten,

 On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 2:07:07 PM, which was 2:47:32 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

AaA> I have, as sig says, gone back to 3.51.10 because I need the
AaA> template funstionality that is broken from then on.

AaA> However, I now have the problem that comes with that version:

AaA> The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process
AaA> cannot be aborted. The only waiy out being to kill TB service in
AaA> the Task Manager.

AaA> Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or
AaA> did it just 'go away' with the next version?

I have had to use Task Manager on a regular basis, since TB! would
hang every time I downloaded. I have upgraded, downgraded and upgraded
again. I am delighted to say that my current version (3.62.14) - so
far, anyway - is doing extremely well.
Don't know anything about 'template functionality' though.
Good luck.

--
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Maurice

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Re: Ctrl - Alt - Del

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Greg,

 On Saturday, August 6, 2005, 4:31:40 PM, which was 5:05:16 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

TF>>> Yes, this was a problem in that beta version. Please upgrade to the
TF>>> current release version, the bug has long been fixed.

>> To my knowledge, I have _never_ used a beta version of anything - only
>> what was available as a standard release.

GS> I think you misread Thomas's reply. Beta's become release versions
GS> eventually. Thomas follows TBBETA as I do. Thomas is saying the
GS> problem was fixed in TBBETA which has now been released. If you
GS> download and install the CURRENT released version the problem is
GS> fixed.

I appreciate your reply.
I have no doubt that Tbeta people are doing their best to expand
horizons, and make The Bat fly higher and higher. But after my recent
experience, I am feeling more of an Icarus - I got into a panic and
wasted a couple of hours trying to fix problems, caused by the
standard release, downloaded from the page you mentioned.
I'll go back to being a Luddite, at least till the upgrade bug kicks
in again... 

-- 
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Maurice

Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro 
 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



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Re: Ctrl - Alt - Del

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Thomas,

 On Saturday, August 6, 2005, 12:34:54 AM, which was 7:58:21 AM 
where I am, you wrote:

MM>> Using version 3.5.30, my connection centre hangs every time. I get the
MM>> message "Some tasks are now active" and "Do you want to exit when they
MM>> are finished?" Someone has a sense of humour: the only way to gain
MM>> control of The Bat is with ctrl, alt, del.

TF> Yes, this was a problem in that beta version. Please upgrade to the
TF> current release version, the bug has long been fixed.

To my knowledge, I have _never_ used a beta version of anything - only
what was available as a standard release.

Mary's advice about going with whatever works is more to the point,
all the more so, in my opinion, when I see highly experienced
Batters using version 2.12 and even 1.62.

At some point I will learn, I guess, never to fix what ain't broken...

-- 
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Maurice

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 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



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Ctrl - Alt - Del

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Batters,

Using version 3.5.30, my connection centre hangs every time. I get the
message "Some tasks are now active" and "Do you want to exit when they
are finished?" Someone has a sense of humour: the only way to gain
control of The Bat is with ctrl, alt, del. I tried disabling the anti
virus - to no avail. I tried creating a new account - same thing.

This message is to say that I have now _downgraded_ to version
3.0.1.33 and am delighted with the result.

--
Regards,
Maurice

Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro 
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Re: Backup Hangs

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Mary,

you wrote:
 
>> But I never do an "add-to" backup - always a full one from scratch.
>> It seems strange that TB would go looking for the file again...

MB> This happened to me. F-Secure flagged a double-extension as a virus
MB> which it said it couldn't clean or delete, in my enormous TBOT folder.
MB> Happened last year.

MB> The only way I found to deal with it was to move all the messages to
MB> a new folder and delete the old TBOT folder.

MB> Then I moved the TBOT archive outside of The Bat! and made myself a
MB> new TBOT folder.

MB> Of course, TBOT isn't anything essential to my life, just only
MB> pleasant diversions in pleasant company.

MB> Not sure how much this would apply to your attachment "hang"
MB> situation, but thought I'd throw it into the mix, here, in case it
MB> would help.

Thank you for your input. I will think on it.

I have just attempted another backup, this time disabling (in the
'What to backup' menu) Attachment Files - it worked !

What is extremely curious however, is the strange behavior, which
greys out 'Maintenance' in the Folder menu, whenever I highlight the
name of a given account e.g. Main Identity.
But, when I highlight individual folders e.g. 'Inbox' 'Sent' etc
'Maintenance' is suddenly accessible.

-- 
Maurice


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Re: Backup Hangs

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Roelof,

you wrote:

MM Even after doing a re-install, and opting for "Repair" I continue to
MM get the message "Thread error. Access refused (5)". I have removed the

RO>>> Is it possible that you've got a virus infected document among your
RO>>> attachments?

MM>> Have just scanned all attachments with AVG - all clean.
MM>> Any other suggestions?

RO> Did you maybe delete one of your attachments while TB thinks it should
RO> still be present? I presume that you're keeping your attachments in a
RO> separate directory.

Actually now that you mention it, AVG had flagged a suspect virus (a
file with a double extension, it said). I do remember deleting that
file with Windows Explorer.
But I never do an "add-to" backup - always a full one from scratch.
It seems strange that TB would go looking for the file again...

MM>> BTW, yesterday I did use a program mentioned on the Langa List, to
MM>> clean out temp files - any possible connection?

RO> Don't know. Doesn't seem likely, it's not as if you're keeping your
RO> attachments in %temp%, are you?

No in the default directory.

-- 
Maurice


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Re: Backup Hangs

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Roelof,

you wrote:

MM>> Even after doing a re-install, and opting for "Repair" I continue to
MM>> get the message "Thread error. Access refused (5)". I have removed the

RO> Is it possible that you've got a virus infected document among your
RO> attachments?

Have just scanned all attachments with AVG - all clean.
Any other suggestions?

BTW, yesterday I did use a program mentioned on the Langa List, to
clean out temp files - any possible connection?

-- 
Maurice


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Backup Hangs

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Batters,

I've been doing a weekly backup for years ; firstly Folder,
Maintenance, then Tools, Backup, without any problem. Yesterday the
program stopped during the "Storing attachments". For the first time
'Maintenance' was greyed out.

Even after doing a re-install, and opting for "Repair" I continue to
get the message "Thread error. Access refused (5)". I have removed the
Bayes plug-in but to no avail. The process always stops at the same
point - 80% of storage attachments.

Any suggestions?

-- 
Maurice

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Re: spamalot

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Mark,

 On Saturday, June 11, 2005, 6:52:03 PM, which was 8:46:43 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

G>> K9 running here. Gets almost all SPAM.

rlmc> Yes, K9 is so awesome that I donated. I can see the attraction of an
rlmc> all-under-one-roof solution, but I continue to use K9. The plugins
rlmc> seem such a fiddle. I would recommend it to anyone using POP3.

rlmc> K9, with good/bad databases of about 40,000 words each: Spam
rlmc> consistently rates at more than 85% while good messages rate at less
rlmc> than 15%. The decisiveness of the software is fantastic. It would be
rlmc> true enough to say that spam never gets past. 100% rating in 34 days
rlmc> (since I reinstalled XP.)

rlmc> Other features include whitelists and blacklists. I have a few
rlmc> important addresses in the whitelist, just to be sure (you never know
rlmc> what your friends will send.) It can refer to online DNS blackhole
rlmc> lists too, but I have that turned off right now.

rlmc> Spam messages output can be custom-marked, including a percentage for
rlmc> spam probability. Alternatively it can mark them with your own
rlmc> invisible custom headers. Obviously TheBat! can filter and store these
rlmc> into a time-limited folder.

rlmc> All is no bother after a few weeks training. Just sits in the system
rlmc> tray, silently outsmarting the spammers best efforts..

I used it too, up until about a year ago, and was extremely happy with
the results.

My only misgiving was that there was no password protection; my
accounts in The Bat! are all password protected, but with K9, the
contents of my all my e-mails were visible to anyone using my machine.

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Maurice


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Re: [OT] wanadoo.fr "bouncing" list messages

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Thomas,

 On Saturday, June 4, 2005, 7:53:43 PM, which was 8:41:22 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

MB>> Happened to me this morning, and I was so paranoid about a possible
MB>> spoof--since the returned message was presented as an attachment--and
MB>> I knew I had sent no messages recently to anyone with a wanadoo
MB>> domain--that I first scanned the attachment with F-Secure and
MB>> TDS-3--and then, scared of it still, deleted it off the Desktop (where
MB>> I had put it for the scan) and emptied the Recycle bin.

TF> If the attachment is a file with .msg extension, you can click on it,
TF> because it will open in TB (make sure this extension is active in
TF> Options / Preferences / Applications, though). If it is an executable
TF> file, your precautions are laudable.

Are Word files (with possible macros) something I should worry about -
in other words, first download, and then scan every single attached
document ?

-- 
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Maurice

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Re: [OT] wanadoo.fr "bouncing" list messages

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Mary,

 On Saturday, June 4, 2005, 5:06:30 PM, which was 6:48:29 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System) has returned a
>> couple of list messages to me recently. I mean messages that I
>> posted and which appeared on TBUDL. Perhaps somebody using
>> wanadoo.fr as their isp is experiencing intermittent problems
>> receiving messages from this list?

MB> Happened to me this morning, and I was so paranoid about a possible
MB> spoof--since the returned message was presented as an attachment--and
MB> I knew I had sent no messages recently to anyone with a wanadoo
MB> domain--that I first scanned the attachment with F-Secure and
MB> TDS-3--and then, scared of it still, deleted it off the Desktop (where
MB> I had put it for the scan) and emptied the Recycle bin.

MB> Then I deleted it and the message, separately in TB!, and purged and
MB> compressed the TB! trash.

MB> Didn't even think about it having been a returned TBUDL message.

You are obviously extremely careful.
Do F-Secure and TDS-3 not scan all incoming emails and attachements
_automatically_ ?
If so, there would surely be no need to save the attachment to desktop
and then re-do a scan... ?

-- 
Just curious,
Regards,
Maurice


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Re: cannot connect to server

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello MOG,

 On Saturday, October 30, 2004, 1:23:39 PM, which was 1:45:32 PM 
where I am, you wrote:

>> But would you really be happier without something to complain about?

CT> Probably not. My wife's taken to calling me Mog, anyway. It's short
CT> for miserable old git.

My acronym finder tells me that MOG is a
"Messenger of God" - I agree.
Down with all those "little devils" 

-- 
Maurice


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Version 3.0.1.33 officially available

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Tbuddlers,

Good to see that the latest official version is now available. I just
love the new splash screen.

They are a bit slow however about modifying the web site

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/
   
where they say TB! 2.0 has been released.

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Re[2]: Tools, Restore

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Peter,

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:18:36 +0200 GMT
(14.08.2004, 18:18 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

PO> on Sat, 14 Aug 2004 17:23:04 +0200 (2004-08-14 17:23:04 in .nl) in the
PO> message with reference
PO>  you
PO> [MM] wrote (at least in part):

MM>> Surely it is backed up along with the msg base? If so, where is it?

PO> This depends on settings you made on the first page of the backup
PO> window. Is 'Address Books' checked? Are address books selected (use the
PO> 'Choose...' button).

Like a fool, I've been accepting the default settings and never
bothered to look beyond "Trusted Root CA" (though why anyone would
want to have this as a default, is beyond me...). Mystery solved: I
did not check the individual Address Books on the next page.

Am I the only fool out there?

-- 
Regards,
Maurice

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Using The Bat! 2.04.7 under Windows XP 5.1 Pro
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Tools, Restore

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello TBUDLers,

After losing half my msg base and my address book (Friday 13th? - no,
not really, it happened yesterday) I followed Roelof's advice on
creating fictitious accounts. I thought I was out of the woods, until
I discovered that nothing that I could do, would bring back my address
book. I opened the address book and tried

>File, Import From, and even
>File, Open Address Book

as well as the various permutations therein.
No luck

I have now spent several hours trying to recover my address book,
which has somehow got badly corrupted. At one point, there was a huge
list of cabalistic signs or gibberish. I've got Intermediate and
Trusted Root CA, but none of my own addresses.

What annoys me most, is that I have been backing up religiously (at
least once a week), using the internal function (Tools, Backup).
Now that I need to reinstall with Tools, Restore - and irrespective of
the date of the back up - the Restore refuses to perform, apart from
doubling up the number of messages in the msg base.

I used tbkdigger to explore TB's internal backups. It was interesting
to see the names of the files and attachments in each account, but
even with Tbkdigger I could not see my address book.

Surely it is backed up along with the msg base?
If so, where is it?
And why doesn't Restore do what it is supposed to do and roll
everything back to where it was last week/last month ?

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Maurice

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Re[2]: I have a problem..

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Gerard,

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:30:10 +0200 GMT
(23.04.2004, 13:30 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

G> ON Friday, April 23, 2004, 4:06:18 AM, you wrote:
m>> I use Second Copy too. But I have it set to do a continuous back up
m>> (well, almost) every 20 mins and that includes my message base.

G> With a backup scheme like that I have to ask what is so important that it
G> needs backing up every 20 min.

Are you an email-aholic, or are you not? 

-- 
Maurice



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Re: Meaning of QT

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Jean,

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:09:31 +0100 GMT
(28.12.2003, 11:09 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

JS> I have read in a message : Using QTs What is the meaning
JS> of QT ?

Quick templates - check out

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html#templates

--

Maurice

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Re: recursive wrap template macro

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello rich,

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:29:08 -0500 GMT
(23.12.2003, 21:29 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:


rg> I am looking for the link to the Library (for the "recursive wrap template
rg> macro").

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html

-- 

Be happy,
Maurice


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Using The Bat! 2.01.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Pro
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Re[2]: Backups

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Elaine,

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:05:52 -0500 GMT
(24.11.2003, 23:05 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:

MM>> Yes, I am missing something. I have just noted that when
MM>> I enable "store external attachments in message bodies"
MM>> I get a much larger backup - mystery solved.

E> I went from 395 to 397 MB, not a major difference.  What is
E> the advantage or disadvantage of the different methods?

Don't know. Have just done a backup _disabling_ "store
external attachments in message bodies", and have ended up
with a much larger file ; perhaps one of the more
experienced members could explain things.

--

Regards,
Maurice

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Re: Backups

[Maurice McAdam]

MM> I notice that when I now do "Tools, Backup" the resulting
MM> .tbk file is about half the size of what it used to be, when
MM> I did backups under 1.62r.

MM> Is this more efficient compression with version 2, or am I
MM> missing something?

Yes, I am missing something. I have just noted that when I
enable "store external attachments in message bodies" I get
a much larger backup - mystery solved.

-- 
Maurice

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Backups

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Listers,

I notice that when I now do "Tools, Backup" the resulting
.tbk file is about half the size of what it used to be, when
I did backups under 1.62r.

Is this more efficient compression with version 2, or am I
missing something?

--
 
Regards,
Maurice

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Re[2]: Virus Scan msg on mail check - Exploit-MIME.gen.exe

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Marck,

On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:38:55 +0100 GMT
(10.06.2003, 11:38 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:


MDP> 3) Get shot of McAffee and instead use an AV solution
MDP> that has a TB plug in and won't interfere with normal
MDP> operation. NOD32 is generally acknowledged as the best
MDP> while Kaspersky is also known to be good. I personally
MDP> use AVG, although many don't rate it very highly.

I have been quite happy with AVG (the free version), but on
two recent occasions it detected viruses which arrived,
through one of the children using Kazaa.

Each time, I received a msg saying that my computer had a
virus and that I should run AVG. Which I did. However, I was
never given the opportunity to put the infected file in the
vault, or to disinfect it. AVG continued to tell me my
computer was infected. But could do nothing about it.

Do you think that's because I had the free version?

Regards,
Maurice

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 on a Pentium 2 with 512MB.



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Re[2]: Mailbox Locked by a Pop3 Session

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Thomas,

 Many thanks for yours.

>> my screen seemed to freeze. The only way I could exit was
>> Ctrl-Alt-Del.

TF> The message from TB might be system modal.

Don't understand what that means.

TF> Did you try to click Y or N instead of crtl-alt-del?

Several times, but since I could not make a 'clean exit'
from The Bat, opted for ctrl-alt-del

TF> If you did and
TF> it didn't work, which Windows version are you using?

XP.

All for now and thanks for your interest.
Maurice

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Re[2]: Mailbox Locked by a Pop3 Session

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Batters,

Thank you Tomasz, Peter, Gerard for your responses. After
several calls to my ISP's help line, I'm finally up and
running once more.

It's good to know that the problem had nothing to do with
The Bat but rather with my ISP.

When I got the following Bat message :

"Some tasks are now active.
Do you want to exit when they are finished?"

my screen seemed to freeze. The only way I could exit was
Ctrl-Alt-Del.

This apparently is not the thing to do; when I tried logging
on once more, I found the mailbox locked (some sort of
protection, if two or more people try to log on to the same
address at the same time). And, as the technician said, it
remains locked for 20 minutes when it is released
automatically.

Many thanks,
Maurice

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Mailbox Locked by a Pop3 Session

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Batters,

I cannot download my mail because I keep getting the above
message, so there's probably little point asking for help on
the list (since I will be unable to receive your answers).

I'd be grateful therefore if someone could write me at

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

with a solution.

My problem started with version 1.61, when I ended up
downloading over and over again the same messages. I wasn't
aware at the time that one could delete them on the server
(Account, Dispatch Mail on Server): a workaround, but at
least one that worked.

I read somewhere on this list that one should leave them for
1 day on the server (Account, properties, Mail Management).
That worked. Since then, a single download did the trick. I
installed v1.62i last night, opted for my original 'Delete
received messages from server'. This morning the downloading
hung. I turned off my machine, started up but still have
same problem. I'm snookered, stymied.

TIA
Maurice


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Re[2]: Character Set Choice

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Edvis,

>>  Can someone tell me how does one choose the correct character
>>  set. I am UK based so do I choose 1250 Central European?

E> No, you should choose Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1)

According to the help file one should "Choose which
character set is used for the message auto-view window"

I've been using "None" for years - what am I missing out?

Maurice



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Re[2]: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' & Parenting

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Oliver,

 Many thanks for yours.

OA> Since yesterday I use Kaspersky, The Bat! has a
OA> built-in plugin for this virus scanner. The only
OA> strange thing is that it doesn't tell me if I
OA> received an infected email message, it silently
OA> deletes it.

Does it also do the same thing with the eicar anti-virus
test file?

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

Regards,
Maurice



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Re[4]: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' & Parenting

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello DG,

 Many thanks for yours.

MM>> but when I tried to find it with Windows Explorer, I got
MM>> as far as the temporary internet files, but could not
MM>> find any folder named 'Content.ie5', or more especially
MM>> a file named Jennifer.

DRS> Open up Windows Explorer, select Search, click on All
DRS> files and folders, type in "content*.*" without the
DRS> quotes, select your root drive that WindowsXP Pro is
DRS> installed on (usually C:) and further select More
DRS> advanced options then place a checkmark in the box
DRS> Search hidden files and folders. You should see, with
DRS> one main user of the system, at least 5 instances of a
DRS> Content.IE5 folder.

Have done all the above, but can no longer find
'Jennifer[1].htm'. Has she been cleaned out, or
transmogrified into some new virus? Time alone will tell.
Thank you for your help.

Maurice

Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition
Windows XP Pro



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Re[2]: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' & Parenting

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Roelof,

 Many thanks for yours.

RO> Did the scanner give you a place where to find the
RO> infected file?

Actually yes:

c:\documents and settings\Maurice\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.ie5\k5kholkz\Jennifer[1].htm

but when I tried to find it with Windows Explorer, I got
as far as the temporary internet files, but could not
find any folder named 'Content.ie5', or more especially
a file named Jennifer.

I use ie version 6, so am intrigued by the significance
of ie5. As for 'k5kholkz' I have no idea what it might
be.

Any further thoughts?

I should perhaps add that it's something of an academic
question by now: having run the AVG scan, and emptying
the internet temp. files, I've now got a clean bill of
health.

Thank you anyway,
Maurice

Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition
Windows XP Professional



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Re[2]: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' & Parenting

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Victor,

VBG> You should be pretty safe simply deleting it or better
VBG> yet wiping it clean from your system.

 Have deleted it and so far so good: AVG now gives me a
 clean bill of health.

 Many thanks for your help.

Regards,
Maurice


Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition
Windows XP



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AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' & Parenting

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Batters,

  Grisoft's free anti-virus program told me today that
  my computer was infected with VBS/NAPTIME.A@MM.

  I promptly ran my anti-virus program, (System Suite 4
  which used to be called Fix-it Utilities) and chose
  the the so-called deep scan: it found nothing. I
  then downloaded the latest Grisoft anti-virus update
  to disinfect my system. The guilty file apparently is
  'jenniferp[1].htm'

  I was told "We recommend you select the 'Move to Virus
  Vault'", which I did, but the computer then hung. I
  have since repeated the AVG virus scan; the same
  troublesome file is flagged, but each time I click on
  'Move to Virus Vault' the computer hangs.

  In an attempt to have computer literate 'kids', the
  three of them, have always been allowed access to the
  machine, whenever it's free. My wife is the fifth user
  (I'm the only one using The Bat). Would appreciate any
  suggestions from "responsible parents" - whatever that
  is - on the list.

Maurice



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Re[2]: How to configure BAT with Yahoo

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Listers,

 A copy of all my regular mail (for which I use The Bat)
 goes automatically on to my hotmail account. When I
 travel - with no laptop - I can always stay in touch,
 using whatever web connection comes to hand.

 If you give up on Yahoo, Hotmail, etc. is there some
 other way of getting one's email?

TIA,
Maurice



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Version of The Bat! is Obsolete

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Batters,

I've installed the free version of Grisoft's AVG .

When I tried installing their plug-in - avgbat9us.exe - in
the same directory as thebat.exe (C:\program files\the bat\)
I get the above message, with the warning that I need at
least version 1.6 of the Bat.

I am using Christmas 1.62. What gives?

TIA
Maurice



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Re: Leave on server woes.

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Craftsman,

C> If I set The Bat to leave files on the server, it will
C> continue to download *all* the files left on the server
C> over and over. It doesn't take long to end up with a
C> gazillion dupes.

I had the same problem, but only when I switched to 1.62;
I now leave all messages on the server for 1 day - since
then all is well.

Regards,
Maurice


C> 
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Re[2]: Compuserve

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Roelof,

RO> What format does 'Quick View Plus' support for exporting mail?

It cannot export files - merely allows one to view them as
text or ASCII without the original application.

RO> BTW You started your question as an answer to another thread. That's
RO> not the best thing to do for the following reason.

... 

Thank you for the *ever so gentle* correction. This was not
the case some three years ago, when I first started lurking
on TBUDL; many participants seemed to take a fiendish
delight in putting down others.

It seems to me that the tone of the list now shows great
forbearance - long may it continue.

Maurice



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Compuserve

[Maurice McAdam]

Dear Batters,

I stopped using Compuserve as an email client about 7 years
ago, but I still have a lot of email on my hard disk. I can
read it with "Quick View Plus" but not with "Mailbag
Assistant". I have tried importing it into The Bat, but so
far unsuccessfully.

Any ideas anyone?
TIA
Maurice



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Re[2]: "The Bat!"'s lost its subfolders.

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Roelof,

MM>> yet my messages, including this one, continue to be
MM>> saved on the C drive. What gives?

RO> Select the account you want to move. And select in the menu:
RO>  account -> properties -> files and directories

 Thank you for your suggestion which I've followed. The
 result is

   E:\Program Files\The Bat!

 Yet when I send an email, it still ends up, as before,
 in the Sent folder of the *C:* drive (I check through
 Windows Explorer and Quick View Plus). Very strange. I
 have even turned everything off, then switched back on.
 The files and directories setting remains unchanged
 (E:\Program Files\The Bat!) Makes no difference
 however.

 Any further thoughts?

Maurice



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Re[4]: "The Bat!"'s lost its subfolders.

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Ernie,

EB> Would anyone know how to unsubscribe to this list?

Just go to the following address and click on the
appropriate button

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Regards,
Maurice



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Re[2]: "The Bat!"'s lost its subfolders.

[Maurice McAdam]

Hello Roelof,

 Many thanks for yours.

MM>> Does Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L search the entire hard disk for the
MM>> relevant Bat data or just the main folder?

RO> It makes TB look for lost folders in the account directories and their
RO> subdirectories.

I consider myself very much a newbie, even though I've
been using TheBat! for three years. I've been setting up
new accounts, deleting others and never paying too much
attention as to where the stuff all ended up.

Running out of space on C:, I've been trying to move TB
to my E: drive. I was warned off attempting to do this
manually (something to do with the registry?), so I used
the Powerdesk utility. Despite a couple of error
messages along the way, the transfer seemed to be
successful. When I click on properties for the bat
desktop icon, I get the following

"E:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe"

yet my messages, including this one, continue to be
saved on the C drive. What gives?

I have just downloaded Mailbag Assistant in an attempt
to get out of the mess but don't yet know enough about
it to know if that can provide some sort of solution.

I checked the Tbudl archives on "Moving TB" but that
seems to refer to moving TB to another machine.

Would appreciate any suggestions.

TIA,
Maurice



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Re: "The Bat!"'s lost its subfolders.

[Maurice McAdam]

>Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L will re-acquire the folders and bring them
>back into the folder tree.

Does Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L search the entire hard disk for the
relevant Bat data or just the main folder?

I'm in the process of transferring TB from one drive to
another and have lost / mislaid a few things along the way.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Maurice



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