Re: BayestIt! problem
Buiculescu, Wednesday, January 12, 2005, 11:34:32 AM, you wrote:== > Hello list, > BayesIt 0.7.3 gives all messages a rating of 99. No matter what. > I kept using those Mark as Junk and Mark as NOT Junk buttons but > nothing. > I'm using TB! 3.0.1.33 Try Bayes Filter Plugin from http://www.lkcc.org:8500/index.php. Once trained, it's much more accurate than RITLab's own plug-in. Be sure to get 2.01 because I found it much better than 2.00, even though the author said the changes were minor. Steve . . . -- Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 and Bayes Filter Plugin 2.01 under Windows 98SE Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
batskin.ini
For those interested in changing The Bat's interface, http://thebat.orgavision.de/batskin_ini.html has the documentation for batskin.ini. Steve . . . Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Michael, I really like K9 (& POPFile), but to conserve resources on this old system I'm trying the plug-in Achim Winklers BayesFilter, http://www.lkcc.org/achim/download/bayesfilter1.5.4.exe. So far it seems to be almost as good as K9, but learns slower. I did better with the older versions of BayesIt than the present ones, so I gave up on it. Steve . . . Michael, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 10:06:27 PM, you wrote:== > Hi, > I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people > think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do > others think? Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt web english web page
I, too, just installed The Bat! plug-in Achim Winklers BayesFilter. From my first test, it seems to be quite a cut above BayesIt. (For those who want to try it, you can get it from http://www.lkcc.org/achim/download/bayesfilter1.5.4.exe.) I'll probably move my white and black lists from K9, but it seems to work well (so far) without those lists. I actually have only a dozen or so in my black & white lists, so they shouldn't change much. Steve . . . P.Johnson, Saturday, September 25, 2004, 5:37:10 PM, you wrote:== > Can you tell me a little more about the auto-whitelist? I've installed Bayes > Filter with no problems and it seems to be working well. So far the only > addresses in the whitelist file are those I added manually. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt web english web page
Neal, I'm, using 06.6, which I thought was the latest version. BayesIt hasn't worked well for me since the version that came with The Bat 2.12; I don't remember its version number. Do you have the URL for 0.6.8? The web site for BayesIt http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm lists 0.4 as the latest version. I've been getting the URLs for the later versions from this forum. Thanks! Steve . . . Neal, Saturday, September 25, 2004, 10:55:31 AM, you wrote:== > I'm amazed at the varying experiences everyone has. So far with TB v3 I > started with v.0.6.0, trained it and all was well; no white or black lists. > I just stuck v0.6.8 into the mix and it seems OK. There were many problems > for me using the betas between 0.6.0 and 0.6.8. Which are you using? Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIt web english web page
Does anybody know if there a comprehensive BayesIt web page in English, such as the Russian http://www.ritlabs.com/ru/solutions/BayesIt.php. If I switch the language selector on the Russian page to English, nothing happens. I tried http://www.ritlabs.com/en/solutions/BayesIt.php, but only get a "not found" message. I'm frustrated enough with BayesIt's inability to recognize junk mail, that I'm ready to switch back to K-9, which averages a 97-99% junk recognition success rate for me one I got it trained. Thanks! Steve . . . Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
grayed out icons
Once in a while when reading email, several icons (primarily those that effect operation on the messages, such as Delete, the Replies, and the Forwards) will suddenly gray out and I lose access to those features. If I switch to another folder and then back, the icons un-gray and work fine. I can't find a pattern to his happening. Do others have this problem and is it a reportable bug, or is it unique to my system? I don't remember this happening with The Bat! version 1.x, just 2.x. Thanks! Steve . . . Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
group reply
How to I send the same reply to a group of email messages? If I highlight each emeil's address with , The Bat! generates a group of replies, one for each message. I just want to generate a single reply with a group of addresses. Thanks! Steve . . . Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: scheduler & backup
Peter, Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 12:14:59 PM, you wrote:== > Hi Steve, > on Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:43:42 -0700GMT (15.10.03, 16:43 +0200GMT here), > you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : SMK>> Has anybody figured out how to use ver. 2.01's Scheduler to do regular SMK>> backups? Backup doesn't seem to be one of the offered Actions. > I use Allie Martin's batch file for my backups of The Bat! instead of > TB!'s built-in backup. It saves the complete TB! directory plus registry > key to a .rar archive, and on updating only edits what has changed. > There should be a copy in Marck's TBUDL pages as linked to below. If you > prefer, I can send it to you via PM. > This .bat file can be evoked by the scheduler under actions -- run program. Peter, Please send us the batch file as an attachment. Our direct email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know why, but I never thought about using a batch file to back up The Bat!. I use one to back up my registry before I edit it and batch files for some other things. Some times, the old ways are the best (easiest). Thanks!!! Steve . . . Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
scheduler & backup
Has anybody figured out how to use ver. 2.01's Scheduler to do regular backups? Backup doesn't seem to be one of the offered Actions. Thanks! Steve . . . Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Integrate Bat witha PIM?
John, Monday, October 13, 2003, 10:48:57 PM, you wrote:== > You might try WinDates, > It is still being developed, most recent is version 5. > It is my favorite PIM. > http://www.rockinsoftware.com/windates.htm John, We also use WinDates. Do you actually have version 5.0? The latest release shown on the web site is 4.25, which has been out almost 2 years. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MenuNavigator Button
Allen, Friday, October 10, 2003, 6:27:04 AM, you wrote:== > The menu navigator makes it easy to find menu items if you have a > general idea of what they are but aren't quite sure /where/ they are -- > it saves you manually running your mouth through all the menus trying to > find message/flags/flagged -- instead, you just open the menu navigator, > type flag and watch the search results appear. Flick on the word in the > results as appropriate and it will open the menu to that item for you or > even execute it [press execute]. Hey, that's handy! More software should have that feature. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MenuNavigator Button
> Thursday, October 9, 2003, Jonathan Angliss wrote: > The CB is the bar on top of the windows, the one wit > minimize/maximize/close buttons on it. The MenuNavigator button has a > little question mark in it. Exactly what does the Menu Navigator do? I've pressed that little question mark button and popped up the Menu Navigator window a few times, but couldn't get it to do anything? (Inquiring minds and all that.) Steve . . . Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs.bmp
Yes, that's what I mean. Some of the icons are easy to figure out, but some not. For example, I'd like the upload icon to change colors, say to red, when messages are waiting to upload. I know which icon starts the upload, but can I do the color change? A map of what each icon in glyphs.bmp stands for would really help. Steve . . . Christopher, Friday, September 26, 2003, 11:02:54 AM, you wrote:==>>>> > Hi Thomas, TF>> Steve & Mary King wrote: >>> Does anybody where there's a map to the functions of the icons in >>> glyphs.bmp? TF>> It's a straight-forward bmp file, no functions included. > I think he means a description of what each icon is used for. Most > are straightforward just by looking at them, but some are not. Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
glyphs.bmp
Does anybody where there's a map to the functions of the icons in glyphs.bmp? Thanks! Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thread +,- indicators
Version 2.00.6 doesn't show the thread indicators, +-, in the message list Subject column. Can this be turned on/off, if so how, or is this a bug in this version? Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML in the editor
Does the editor have any features to automate the entering of HTML tags (I couldn't find them), or do we have to enter them manually? Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature requests
Where do we go on the web or who do we email to suggest new features? I'd like a Backup option for the Scheduler Actions to automate The Bat's backups. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Paul, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 8:26:52 AM, you wrote:==>>>> > Steve & Mary King wrote: >> The documentation of the new features, >> if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent. Perhaps they should >> have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules > The documentation for 1.6 is similarly very poor, so I don't think > schedules are an excuse for that aspect of TB's shortcomings. We didn't start using The Bat! until the first week of July '03. We moved from Poco because, after 2+ years of using it, the unfixed bugs and poor documentation were driving me nuts. Everybody raved about The Bat!'s power, so I decide to switch. I'm beginning to feel that the standard 30-day trial period just isn't enough, and that maybe users should push for 60 to 90 days. Sigh!!! Maybe I'll retry Becky. I handle software switches quite easily, but my wife will go nuts learning another interface after she just got comfortable with this. She got quite upset with the icon switch in 2.0, so I had to install the old icons. Another sigh!!! Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expand all threads command?
mm, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 9:14:52 AM, you wrote:== > I notice that the threads need to be expanded every time TheBat! is > booted. Is there a way to set a default on this? > Thank you, > Maggie From what the discussions have said, I don't think so. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expand all threads command?
mm, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:46:00 AM, you wrote:== > Hi Bats, > How does one expand/contract all the threads in the subject view > window? > I have used the Ctrl+A, then the Alt +/- but I wonder if there's a > way to set the whole thing to always display the expanded threads? > Thanks in advance, > Maggie Try for all threads, for the selected thread, and to close. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2
Jack, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 7:56:16 AM, you wrote:== > Make that two of us. > Plus a central location for gathering information on innovative ways to > actually use some of these features. > Many of TB's features go unused by me because: > 1. I don't even know some of them are there > 2. I don't know how to put them to good use I think the release of 2.0 was quite premature. The upgrade policies seem to differ, depending on who you contact. The documentation of the new features, if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent. Perhaps they should have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules and leaving features and documentation incomplete. Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...
Allister, Friday, September 5, 2003, 1:58:50 AM, you wrote:== > I've cast back through the posts and found the link (for others who > missed it, it is http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs_orig.zip). For those interested in alternate The Bat! glyphs, you'll find almost 50 sets of them at http://batworld.de/glyphs/glyphs1/index.html Steve . . . Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
Günter, Friday, August 22, 2003, 6:39:16 AM, you wrote:== > I have a vague feeling this has been mentioned before but can't find > the answer: > My messages to a Yahoo list suddenly have doublespacing (extra blank > lines) when read on the list digest. They look fine in The Bat. > This started to happen after a reinstall and restore. Maybe there's a > crucial setting that's changed, because I didn't have that problem > before. > Regards, > Günter Confirmed! b1 and b2 didn't do this, but b3 does. Steve . . . Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! Converter
The ABC Amber The Bat! Converter from http://www.thebeatlesforever.com/processtext/abcbat.html describes itself as "a useful tool that helps you keep your important emails, newsletters, newsgroups mails organized in one file. It converts your emails from The Bat! program's bases to any document format (PDF, HTML, RTF, TXT Ansi, TXT Unicode, DOC, MCW, WPS, SAM, RFT, WS4, WS7, WRI, etc.) easily and quickly. All you have to do is select required messages, choose document format to convert and click 'Save As' button. This software also supports more than 50 languages." I haven't tried it yet, but some folks have posted asking about converting from The Bat! The price is listed as EUR 9.28 / USD 9.95. Steve . . . Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quoted text
When I reply to a message in ver. 1.62r, the quoted text does not show. However, when I highlight the area where the quoted text would (should) be, it shows properly in highlighted inverse video. Is this a bug? I can't find the option setting where I specify the (unhighted) color of quoted text. Thanks! Steve . . . Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antivirus question
Rafi, Friday, July 18, 2003, 4:10:56 PM, you wrote:== RA> Hello all, RA> Using TB 1.62r Windows 2000 Pro SP2. RA> Does TB have its own built-in virus-checking engine? If not, is a RA> separate engine required? RA> I am thinking of using the Kaspersky (either Personal Pro or Small RA> Business versions) - is this tool compatible with TB? Does anyone RA> know if it offers/uses periodically updated virus info files? RA> Alternately, can McAffee VirusScan be used and how? RA> Many thanks in advance and best regards RA> Current version is RA> 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: RA> Rafi, Grisoft's free-for-personal-use AVG runs fine with The Bat! on my Windows 98SE systems. It's stopped quite a few viri (viruses???). Steve . . . Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First email client with built in POPFile
Actually, The Bat! works fine with POPFile on my system. I tried the new Courier, and it seems to be just like the old Calypso, which it's replacing. Not worth the cost of upgrade, to me anyway. Steve . . . Jurgen, Thursday, July 10, 2003, 1:37:04 PM, you wrote:== JH> there's this on POPfile news: >> Posted By: jgrahamc >> Date: 2003-06-30 18:57 >> Summary: First email client with built in POPFile >> >> The Courier Email client (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/courier/) has code in the >> latest version to automatically find the X-POPFile-Link decode the link and add a >> "Reclassify..." menu item. >> >> Very nice integration of POPFile. Thanks. JH> wouldn't it be nice if TB! would integrate POPfile, too? Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [ok] OT; Web Bugs
You might try Becky, from www.rimarts.co.jp. I think it has a MAPI MAPI handler. Steve . . . >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:31:36 -0600. "Joseph N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because of TB!'s problematic MAPI handler, I have had to try some > alternatives to get a mail client to work with a case management > program I use (Data.txt's "Time Matters"). I tried Eudora, which > worked better than I thought and has a more robust MAPI driver than > TB!, but there was management (archiving) confusion resulting from > having two mailboxes open with shared mail, so I am using the internal > mail client from "Time Matters." It's not too bad, but it ain't TB!, > which I am going to continue to use for (a) receiving all mail so that > I can archive appropriately and independently of the other program, > and (b) non-business mail. So, with that background, here's my > question, which is admittedly off-topic except that it is necessitated > by TB!'s problematic MAPI handler: if I restrict "Time Matters" to > only the ports I need for mail and to specific addresses where I want > it to connect on ports 80 and 443, will I effectively prevent web bugs > and other nasties from taking root? I am, by default, not viewing in > HTML, but occasionally it is necessary to do so. (Moderators, if this > message topic is clearly over the line, please just kill it quickly > and quietly. Otherwise, all opinions welcomed.) > > -- > JN > > > ____ > Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Steve & Mary King <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [ok] Re: recomend another mailer ?
I've been using Poco for a year or so, but have decided to switch because it has a few bad bugs that haven't been cleared up. I've reported them to no avail. The developer doesn't seem to put anywhere near the effort in the program that he used to, particularly since he brought out the new "portable" version of Poco. I've tried most of the available e-mail programs, and will probably stick with The_Bat!, unless Poco gets fixed soon or Courier, the new Calypso replacement, proves to be a major improvement over the original. Both my wife and I like Poco's interface better, but it's bugs have been quite distracting. And, The_Bat! seems quite a bit faster. Steve . . . > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:23:12 -0600, John Morse wrote: >>I'm looking for another E-mail client, as I just find "theBat!" too >>awkward. >>I hate that strange behaviours that it has, it is always so >>unpredictable. > My other email client is PocoMail (www.pocomail.com). But don't jump > too quickly without giving The Bat! a fair chance. I admit there is > a steep learning curve, and the program as a whole can be very > idiosyncratic (and frustrating at times). But no other email client > I know matches TB! speed and power (esp. filtering). I've flirted > with other email clients, but keep coming back to TB! Personally, my > ideal client would combine both TB and Pocomail. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
