Re[2]: Expanding trees
Hello Curtis, August 05, 2000, 6:48:10 AM, you wrote: C On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:54:39 -0400, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote: ML I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread", right ML (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key. Yes! C CTRL+} does a similar sort of thing. IOW's if you're in a thread C and there's another unread message there, CTRL+} will move you to that C message and no other. dosn't work that way here? PJFS If your in message mode, i.e. I'm reading this message and want to PJFS read next message in *this thread * the ctrl key plus your PJFS directional keys for up and down will take you out of the thread PJFS and go to a previous or next message, C The CTRL+up and down keys will not expand threads but provided the C threads are expanded they will move you up and down each message in the C thread as they should. Not exactly what I meant. PJFS I want to read an entire thread while in message mode, as it is PJFS now I have to read your message (this one I am replying to) close PJFS it than use either the arrow key,or high lite the next message in PJFS thread and hit *enter* . C Hmmm. I assume that you are aware that in the view folder or message C mode as you put it, there's a message list for that window which is not C on by default. View - Message List. This message list operates C independently of the main TB!'s list and is what is being used by the C CTRL+up and down keys. I do now thank you, but I like the message screen full with just the message, when I'am done I want to hit a key ( or two) to get me to the next message without closing the messgae window I'am in now. C I find it tedious that the view folders message list doesn't initially C default to reflect the main windows message list for that folder. The C user may alter this if he wishes to but the *initial* list view should C be the same as the main windows is for that folder. This is especially C pertinent for those who use the view folder window without it's message C list enabled. I agree. PJFS Being able to * read the next message in thread while in a message PJFS window could / should * be a perfect addition to the message window PJFS option. C You seem to be unaware of the view folder windows own message list. Yes I was, thank you again, only been using the bat for under a year, so I'm still getting to know this program, ( I'm still in Agent mode ). -- Best regards, Pasqualemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Expanding trees
On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 07:07:01 -0400, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote: C You seem to be unaware of the view folder windows own message list. PJFS Yes I was, thank you again, only been using the bat for under a PJFS year, so I'm still getting to know this program, ( I'm still in PJFS Agent mode ). Ahh. Nice to have that one cleared up. :-) -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Do fish get thirsty? " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Expanding trees
Hi Pasquale, ML I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread", ML right (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key. Yes! I'm a little confused. You say "yes" here, but according to your description below it seems to me what you want is a shortcut key to got to the next message in thread, *regardless whether it's read or not*! Agent's "T" key would take you to the next *unread* message in thread. IOW, it would skip read messages. Which way do you want? I do now thank you, but I like the message screen full with just the message, when I'am done I want to hit a key ( or two) to get me to the next message without closing the messgae window I'am in now. See? If you do mean the "next message in thread" (regardless read or unread), then there're a couple of not so elegant workaround: 1. Use Ctrl-Shift-U to mark the whole message as unread before double-clicking the message (to open the message window). 2. Enable the message list pane in the message window. You may adjust the pane size to only one (message list) item high, so it won't take too much screen estate. TB would remember this setting. The next time you open the message window, the cursor would stay at the message list pane, with the current message highlighted, so you may either use Ctrl-plus (the plus sign on the Num-keypad) to expand the thread, then use the arrow button on the tool bar to navigate. Or if you are a keyboard person, you may just use the arrow keys to navigate without expanding it first. (Hint: using the right arrow key to go down one level.) I know, I wish TB is as easy to navigate as in Agent, too. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Expanding trees
Hello Ming-Li, August 06, 2000, 12:26:28 PM, you wrote: snip ML If you do mean the "next message in thread" (regardless read or ML unread), then there're a couple of not so elegant workaround: Hope to lessen the confusionYes Here! :) ML 1. Use Ctrl-Shift-U to mark the whole message as unread before ML double-clicking the message (to open the message window). ML 2. Enable the message list pane in the message window. You may ML adjust the pane size to only one (message list) item high, so it ML won't take too much screen estate. TB would remember this setting. ML The next time you open the message window, the cursor would stay at ML the message list pane, with the current message highlighted, so you ML may either use Ctrl-plus (the plus sign on the Num-keypad) to expand ML the thread, then use the arrow button on the tool bar to navigate. ML Or if you are a keyboard person, you may just use the arrow keys to ML navigate without expanding it first. (Hint: using the right arrow ML key to go down one level.) You're right not so elegant. ML I know, I wish TB is as easy to navigate as in Agent, too. And everyone who has Agent wish it could do HTML like The Bat! -- Best regards, Pasqualemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Expanding trees
Hi Ming-Li, On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:26:28 -0700GMT (07/08/2000, 00:26 +0800GMT), Ming-Li wrote: ML I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread", ML right (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key. Yes! ML I'm a little confused. You say "yes" here, but according to your Sure, he could have meant "yes" as in, "yes there *is* such a key", or "yes" as in "yes, you're right, there is *no* such key". ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Expanding trees
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:54:39 -0400, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote: ML I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread", right ML (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key. CTRL+} does a similar sort of thing. IOW's if you're in a thread and there's another unread message there, CTRL+} will move you to that message and no other. PJFS If your in message mode, i.e. I'm reading this message and want to PJFS read next message in *this thread * the ctrl key plus your PJFS directional keys for up and down will take you out of the thread PJFS and go to a previous or next message, The CTRL+up and down keys will not expand threads but provided the threads are expanded they will move you up and down each message in the thread as they should. PJFS I want to read an entire thread while in message mode, as it is PJFS now I have to read your message (this one I am replying to) close PJFS it than use either the arrow key,or high lite the next message in PJFS thread and hit *enter* . Hmmm. I assume that you are aware that in the view folder or message mode as you put it, there's a message list for that window which is not on by default. View - Message List. This message list operates independently of the main TB!'s list and is what is being used by the CTRL+up and down keys. I find it tedious that the view folders message list doesn't initially default to reflect the main windows message list for that folder. The user may alter this if he wishes to but the *initial* list view should be the same as the main windows is for that folder. This is especially pertinent for those who use the view folder window without it's message list enabled. PJFS Being able to * read the next message in thread while in a message PJFS window could / should * be a perfect addition to the message window PJFS option. You seem to be unaware of the view folder windows own message list. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Borg? Where? I don't se*(#$#..NO CARRIER " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Expanding trees
Hi Pasquale, Ok... but where is the short cut for * read next message in thread *? ctrl + ] may take you out of the thread into the next unread message not necessarily in that thread. I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread", right (like the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key. If you do mean "read next message in thread", then cursor keys will do. -- Best regards, Ming-Li Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Win2k -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Expanding trees
Hello Ming-Li, August 04, 2000, 9:22:34 AM, you wrote: ML Hi Pasquale, Ok... but where is the short cut for * read next message in thread *? ctrl + ] may take you out of the thread into the next unread message not necessarily in that thread. ML I guess you mean "read next *unread* message in thread", right (like ML the "T" key in Agent)? No, there's no such key. ML If you do mean "read next message in thread", then cursor keys will ML do. If your in message mode, i.e. I'm reading this message and want to read next message in *this thread * the ctrl key plus your directional keys for up and down will take you out of the thread and go to a previous or next message, I want to read an entire thread while in message mode, as it is now I have to read your message (this one I am replying to) close it than use either the arrow key,or high lite the next message in thread and hit *enter* . Being able to * read the next message in thread while in a message window could / should * be a perfect addition to the message window option. IMHO. -- Best regards, Pasqualemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Expanding trees
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think this has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer... In "Thread by references" view, when I open a thread I want it all expanded, not just the first 'layer' of replies. Is that possible? - -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 on a PentiumII-400 with 128MB PGP: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Retr%20PGP%20Key Any of my keys _under_ 3072 bit (usually on keyservers) don't work. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOYlaBw75xx+xD8DeEQKlfACcCuFKz51kNyQiHd90m58ibqkxkP0AoOXa Sp8nU4jQ5nFflgNICfqg9dVs =2rtG -END PGP SIGNATURE- S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Expanding trees
Thursday, August 03, 2000, 12:39:47 PM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think this has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer... In "Thread by references" view, when I open a thread I want it all expanded, not just the first 'layer' of replies. Is that possible? Ctrl- * * being the number pad * I am desperate for a toggle for all folders to open already expanded, dunno if that will be forthcoming. -- Best regards, Chrismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.formula3.freeserve.co.uk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Expanding trees
Hi Deryk, In "Thread by references" view, when I open a thread I want it all expanded, not just the first 'layer' of replies. Is that possible? Ctrl + (the plus on the Num*keypad). Maybe you want to bookmark the shortcut key list: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcut.eng or the FAQ: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcut.eng -- Best regards, Ming-Li Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Win2k -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Expanding trees
Hi Ming-Li, On Thursday 03/08/2000 at 13:11, you wrote: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcut.eng Thanks, didn't know there was a list of the hidden keys... They should consider including more menu items one day, it's getting a bit like vi :) -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 on a PentiumII-400 with 128MB PGP: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Retr%20PGP%20Key Any of my keys _under_ 3072 bit (usually on keyservers) don't work. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Expanding trees
Hello Ming-Li, August 03, 2000, 8:11:55 AM, you wrote: ML Hi Deryk, In "Thread by references" view, when I open a thread I want it all expanded, not just the first 'layer' of replies. Is that possible? ML Ctrl + (the plus on the Num*keypad). ML Maybe you want to bookmark the shortcut key list: ML http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcut.eng ML or the FAQ: ML http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcut.eng Ok... but where is the short cut for * read next message in thread *? ctrl + ] may take you out of the thread into the next unread message not necessarily in that thread. -- Best regards, Pasqualemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
