Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
Hi David, The other reason that I segregate my e-mail is that Forte' Agent can "ignore" a thread with a single keystroke. This, as well as the "watch" key, are two of my favorite Agent features, and what I miss the most in TB. Thanks for bring them up. This isn't maintained in the filter table, and disappears when the last message in that thread is purged from the folder. While this same function could be accomplished with filters, it would be too much maintenance. Indeed. This feature isn't useful (IMHO) for non-mailing-list e-mail. I wouldn't suggest that it be implemented in The Bat! unless it was part of an integrated newsreader. This I don't agree, exactly because it's useful for mailing lists reading. Not everyone takes the trouble routing mailing-list mail to another account as you do. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
Hi Starc! well, after I suggested that we make a newsgroup, some answered that the bat already offers all functionality a newsreader would give us. So I'm asking now: how must I configure the bat to be able to read this discussion list like a newsgroup? This is off topic, and possibly not of interest, so you folks feel free to tell me to shut up. :-) I read my regular e-mail with The Bat!, and my mailing lists, including TBUDL, with Forte' Agent. I accomplish this by using a UNIX procmail filter to forward my mailing lists to an alternate POP mailbox, from which I retrieve it. The advantage of this procmail arrangement over simply using an alternate email address is that I can post with my main email address, and private mail from list members is read in The Bat!. One of the reasons I segregate my mailing list e-mail is that I want to deal with it when I have time to read newsgroups, and not as it comes in. While I can turn the message ticker off for a folder in The Bat!, it can only manage to do two the following at a time: * The new message indicator (icon wings flapping) is not triggered when new mailing list e-mail arrives. I don't want to be distracted. * The new message indicator is triggered when other new email arrives. I do want to be notified. * Mailing list e-mail is not marked read until I actually read it. Setting the filter to mark the email read seems to be the only way to accomplish the first two, but it makes it difficult for me to keep up to date. I wish that new email notification was folder-configurable, but was told by RIT that it would be difficult. It would be necessary before a newsreader integrated into The Bat! would be useful to me. The other reason that I segregate my e-mail is that Forte' Agent can "ignore" a thread with a single keystroke. It will then mark anything new coming in for that thread as read, which makes it easy to skip over conversations that are going nowhere. Since I normally am set up to view only unread messages, this means that one tap of the "i" key, and I'm blissfully ignorant of the conversation continuing. This isn't maintained in the filter table, and disappears when the last message in that thread is purged from the folder. While this same function could be accomplished with filters, it would be too much maintenance. This feature isn't useful (IMHO) for non-mailing-list e-mail. I wouldn't suggest that it be implemented in The Bat! unless it was part of an integrated newsreader. To be more specific, how can I do the following: 1. I want to be able to browse the messages while they are still on my pop server. I want to read the subject and then be able to download only the messages which I'm interested in. One user told me that this is possible, so how do I do it? Unfortunately, Agent isn't good at that. 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded directly to their specific folders, so only the messages from TBUDL are kept on the server for browsing. I use Agent's filters to send each mailing list to it's own folder. 3. I want to be able to make some sorting of the messages accordint to the thread. Is the only way I can do this to sort them by subject? This is the default. Just my $.02 David Getchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
How to make the bat work like newsreader?
Hello TBUDL, well, after I suggested that we make a newsgroup, some answered that the bat already offers all functionality a newsreader would give us. So I'm asking now: how must I configure the bat to be able to read this discussion list like a newsgroup? To be more specific, how can I do the following: 1. I want to be able to browse the messages while they are still on my pop server. I want to read the subject and then be able to download only the messages which I'm interested in. One user told me that this is possible, so how do I do it? 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded directly to their specific folders, so only the messages from TBUDL are kept on the server for browsing. 3. I want to be able to make some sorting of the messages accordint to the thread. Is the only way I can do this to sort them by subject? -- Best regards, starc -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
Hallo starc, On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:00:53 -0300 GMT (30/06/2000, 19:00 +0800 GMT), starc wrote: s 1. I want to be able to browse the messages while they are still on my s pop server. I want to read the subject and then be able to download s only the messages which I'm interested in. One user told me that this s is possible, so how do I do it? Main Menu: Account / Dispatch mail on server. s 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded directly s to their specific folders, so only the messages from TBUDL are kept on s the server for browsing. I haven't tried it, but I would think that's what the "selective download" filters are there for. Account / Sorting Office. s 3. I want to be able to make some sorting of the messages accordint to s the thread. Is the only way I can do this to sort them by subject? View / View threads by / (take your pick). Explore around, TB will not bite you. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
starc, Friday, June 30, 2000, 1:00:53 PM, you wrote: starc 1. I want to be able to browse the messages while they are still on my starc pop server. I want to read the subject and then be able to download starc only the messages which I'm interested in. One user told me that this starc is possible, so how do I do it? Account - Dispatch Mail On Server starc 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded directly starc to their specific folders, so only the messages from TBUDL are kept on starc the server for browsing. This will probably be possible through some (signal) strings. However, since I've just discovered that TB! can do a hell of a lot more as I was thinking, I'm not able to give you a hint. starc 3. I want to be able to make some sorting of the messages accordint to starc the thread. Is the only way I can do this to sort them by subject? No, you can choose between references, subject, author and date. References is the most convenient way to read your mail, especially if you want to have that "newsreader look-and-feel". You can choose your desired option by clicking View - View Threads By. -- Best regards, Arnomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:32:40 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: s 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded directly s to their specific folders, so only the messages from TBUDL are kept s on the server for browsing. MDP This doesn't sound possible with TB. Hmmm. The selective download feature in the sorting office filters seems to be able to do this. A filter could be setup and the advanced option to 'ignore' the messages matching the filter string used. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=-Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Oxymoron: Soviet Life. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi A, On 14 August 2000 at 12:38:52 GMT -0500 (which was 18:38 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "How to make the bat work like newsreader?": s 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded s directly to their specific folders, so only the messages from s TBUDL are kept on the server for browsing. MDP This doesn't sound possible with TB. ACM Hmmm. The selective download feature in the sorting office ACM filters seems to be able to do this. A filter could be setup and ACM the advanced option to 'ignore' the messages matching the filter ACM string used. Don't the messages that are left on the server disappear from view next time in thus spoiling the browse effect? I'm asking here - I don't know - I never leave messages on the server because mine is on the LAN and the messages have already been downloaded. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQA/AwUBOZg7dznkJKuSnc2gEQLZ1QCfdhr6l7CF/Z4NIEgie4T5X+X9/pAAoPRi +NL3kOE3/7Hd9/Abr+piP0pL =PlmA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:33:27 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: ACM Hmmm. The selective download feature in the sorting office filters ACM seems to be able to do this. A filter could be setup and the ACM advanced option to 'ignore' the messages matching the filter ACM string used. MDP Don't the messages that are left on the server disappear from view MDP next time in thus spoiling the browse effect? I'm asking here - I MDP don't know - I never leave messages on the server because mine is MDP on the LAN and the messages have already been downloaded. You can easily access and download the ignored messages by using the mail dispatcher, setting it to display all messages on the server. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=-Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "One man's error is another man's data. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
Hello starc, On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 at 08:00:53 [GMT -0300], you wrote: s well, after I suggested that we make a newsgroup, some answered s that the bat already offers all functionality a newsreader would s give us. It offers similar functionality, but it's *not* a newsreader, wasn't designed as a newsreader, and you're only going to be able to simulate one using the different functions of TB. V2 of TB might include functionality for a newsreader-- I really hope *not*, unless it's a plugin. s 1. I want to be able to browse the messages while they are still on s my pop server. I want to read the subject and then be able to s download only the messages which I'm interested in. One user told s me that this is possible, so how do I do it? Use Account | Dispatch Mail On Server s 2. I want messages that are not from TBUDL to be downloaded s directly to their specific folders, so only the messages from TBUDL s are kept on the server for browsing. You'll need to set up a Selective Download filter, and set messages matching TBUDL and/or TBBETA criteria to "Ignore". This will get the rest of your mail, but then you can use dispatcher to see all the TB* list messages still on the server. s 3. I want to be able to make some sorting of the messages accordint s to the thread. Is the only way I can do this to sort them by s subject? See View | Sort-by Cheers, Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: It was recently discovered that research causes cancer in rats. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to make the bat work like newsreader?
Hello Leif, Monday, August 14, 2000, you wrote: LG It offers similar functionality, but it's *not* a newsreader, wasn't LG designed as a newsreader, and you're only going to be able to simulate LG one using the different functions of TB. V2 of TB might include LG functionality for a newsreader-- I really hope *not*, unless it's a LG plugin. Please, please, please, whatever influence you have, don't let the developers go there. The Bat! is a damn good mailer, and I *really* would like to see the bug backlog addressed (especially the IMAP bug I've been bitching about for years now). I don't want Opera newsreaders, Netscape newsreaders, newsreaders in Outlook, and newsreaders in The Bat! It isn't economy when you have to pay (in one way or another) five times over for functionality that's already over-provided. Best regards, Iainmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
