Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-29 Thread Spam

 Spam, [S] wrote:

 I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I
 am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if
 I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally
 and I get a new mail icon in the system tray. The problem is the
 filters which do not activate unless I click on the Inbox folder.
 When I do I can see messages moved to Trash and other folders.

 There's nothing you can do about this. This is how TB!'s IMAP
 filtering behaves at the moment. You could check to see if your ISP
 offers a webmail access to your account and if so, check if you can
 filter from there. In this way you could do some of the filtering at
 the server level. Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it
 comes to auto-filtering.

  Seriously, this would seem to be a severe flaw in The Bat! The whole
  idea with filtering is its automation instead of have to do things
  manually.

  Is this going to change anytime soon? It's not like The Bat! doesn't
  receive messages. It does, and it tells me I have new messages too.

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Re[2]: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-29 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Allie,

On Tuesday, September 28, 2004 19:44 your local time, which was
Wednesday, September 29, 2004 at 01:44 my local time, Allie Martin [AM]
wrote;

AM There's nothing you can do about this. This is how TB!'s IMAP
AM filtering behaves at the moment.

8 Snipped a bit 8

AM Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it comes to
AM auto-filtering.

I have to agree, the filtering in IMAP is very poor at the moment. You
end up clicking on various folders chasing the filtered messages around.

:-(
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Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-28 Thread Spam

  Hello everyone,

  I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I
  am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if
  I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally
  and I get a new mail icon in the system tray. The problem is the
  filters which do not activate unless I click on the Inbox folder.
  When I do I can see messages moved to Trash and other folders.

  What can be the problem and how do I get around this?

  Thank you for any suggestion.

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Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-28 Thread Allie Martin
Spam, [S] wrote:

 I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I
 am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if
 I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally
 and I get a new mail icon in the system tray. The problem is the
 filters which do not activate unless I click on the Inbox folder.
 When I do I can see messages moved to Trash and other folders.

There's nothing you can do about this. This is how TB!'s IMAP
filtering behaves at the moment. You could check to see if your ISP
offers a webmail access to your account and if so, check if you can
filter from there. In this way you could do some of the filtering at
the server level. Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it
comes to auto-filtering.

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Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-28 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allie Martin

-
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, at 19:44:54 [GMT -0500] (which was 5:44 PM where
I live) you wrote:

 Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it
 comes to auto-filtering.

To say the least. sigh


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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dan,

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:10:14 -0400 GMT (09/06/2004, 20:10 +0700 GMT),
Dan Grunberg wrote:

DG For what it's worth, this works for me:

DG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | in the Kludges | Yes

The only condition under which this will not work is when you have
seperate folders for mailing lists, and a message is cross-posted to
two lists.

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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-09 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 8 Jun 2004 19:52:01 -0500 (8:52 PM EDT here) Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 On Tuesday, June 08, 2004, Leif Gregory wrote...

 Duane ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options.

 Don't need the Regular Expressions. That'll break it.

 Would do in this example, Duane put Reply-To:.*TBUDL The .*
 wouldn't match anything if regular expressions were off, so it'd try
 to find the string:

   Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Which it wouldn't find. But as others have suggested, just use the
 same string, but without the .*... Unless the normal filter can do
 wild card matching without regex enabled... If so, I missed it.

For what it's worth, this works for me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] | in the Kludges | Yes



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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-09 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Jonathan,

Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 6:52:01 PM, you wrote:
Jonathan Would do in this example, Duane put
Jonathan Reply-To:.*TBUDL The .*

Whoops. Musta not been paying too close attention.


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Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Duane Lambe
Hi - I've just picked up The Bat! (whatever version's current), and
jumped on this mailing list to help me get into the interface, etc.

I've set up a filter for my Incoming IMAP box, as per the Welcome
email, but I'm not sure I'm doing things right.

For the account, I've gone to Incoming Mail, made a new filter, and
under Filtering Strings, I've entered the following:

Strings  Location Presence
Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Kludges  Yes

...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options.

Will this work on an IMAP box, and if so, what have I missed?

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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Duane,

On 08 June 2004, 13:48 -0400 (08/06/200418:48 local time) Duane Lambe
[DL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DL Hi - I've just picked up The Bat! (whatever version's current), and
DL jumped on this mailing list to help me get into the interface, etc.

Welcome! :-)

...snip

DL For the account, I've gone to Incoming Mail, made a new filter, and
DL under Filtering Strings, I've entered the following:

DL Strings  Location Presence
DL Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Kludges  Yes


I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the
regular expressions.

DL Will this work on an IMAP box, and if so, what have I missed?

It should do... IMAP support is _temperamental_ but improving. Just
shout if you have any problems.

If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands
on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP
support.


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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Duane,

Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:48:05 AM, you wrote:
Duane Hi - I've just picked up The Bat! (whatever version's current),
Duane and jumped on this mailing list to help me get into the
Duane interface, etc.

Welcome! :-)

Duane I've set up a filter for my Incoming IMAP box, as per the
Duane Welcome email, but I'm not sure I'm doing things right.

And let me be the first to give you a great big hug for actually
reading the Welcome message which meant you read the list rules, and
for having a properly configured cut-mark.

Now I'm waiting with my fingers crossed that you read the rules
concerning replies too! grin

Duane ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options.

Don't need the Regular Expressions. That'll break it.



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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Martin

On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 19:14 our local time, Martin Webster [MW]
wrote;

MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your
MW hands on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much
MW improved IMAP support.

Sorry to jump in here, but what is the improved IMAP support?

All I've seen is that is has an 'IMAP requests watcher'.

If there's more than this on the IMAP side, let me know as I keen to
'test' IMAP support!
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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Martin Webster
Hello Chris,

On 08 June 2004, 20:09 Chris Weaven [CW] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your
MW hands on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much
MW improved IMAP support.

CW Sorry to jump in here, but what is the improved IMAP support?

It's working _much_ more reliably in just about every aspect. There are
problems still but it's usable.

CW All I've seen is that is has an 'IMAP requests watcher'.

That's to help identify problems... which it has.

CW If there's more than this on the IMAP side, let me know as I keen to
CW 'test' IMAP support!

Please join in! :-)


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Re[2]: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Duane Lambe
MW I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the
MW regular expressions.

Did as much, but I can't seem to get it to work... I /did/ put a space
after the colon - not sure that that should be in there or not.

Also, I'm IMAP-ping an Exchange box - I don't think that should make a
difference (it might), but I've been noticing some odd behaviour on this
server/account... like now, I can't seem to read any old (still
visible, but read) messages in that folder. Every message in the Inbox
shows as one particular email, no matter which one I select. New
messages don't exhibit this this behaviour, like the mail coming in
from this list, for instance.

MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands
MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP
MW support.

I didn't see a location to download this off the main site (my About
box just says 2.11). Trouble you for a link? :)



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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread nednieuws | charles
Hello Martin,

Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:14:24 PM, you wrote:

MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands
MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP
MW support.

Where do I get this beta?

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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread nednieuws | charles
Hello nednieuws,

Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:16:01 PM, you wrote:

MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands
MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP
MW support.

nc Where do I get this beta?

Disregard...

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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Duane,

On 08 June 2004, 16:33 -0400 (08/06/200421:33 local time) Duane Lambe
[DL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MW I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the
MW regular expressions.

DL Did as much, but I can't seem to get it to work... I /did/ put a space
DL after the colon - not sure that that should be in there or not.

That's correct; press F9 to see for yourself in the message source.

DL Also, I'm IMAP-ping an Exchange box - I don't think that should make a
DL difference (it might), but I've been noticing some odd behaviour on this
DL server/account... like now, I can't seem to read any old (still
DL visible, but read) messages in that folder. Every message in the Inbox
DL shows as one particular email, no matter which one I select. New
DL messages don't exhibit this this behaviour, like the mail coming in
DL from this list, for instance.

I think there was a discussion about the problems with Exchange and IMAP
last month. However, I didn't watch that thread. Maybe someone else can
help?

MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands
MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP
MW support.

DL I didn't see a location to download this off the main site (my About
DL box just says 2.11). Trouble you for a link? :)

See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/body.html#tbbeta for information
about beta testing and the beta list.


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Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Mail Filtering)

2004-06-08 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Leif,

On 08 June 2004, 15:46 -0600 (08/06/200422:46 local time) Leif Gregory
[LG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LG A ma!!! You were doing so good.. What'd you do with your
LG cut-mark / sig delimiter?

I could see that one coming! ='(


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Re: Mail Filtering

2004-06-08 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 08, 2004, Leif Gregory wrote...

Duane ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options.

 Don't need the Regular Expressions. That'll break it.

Would do in this example, Duane put Reply-To:.*TBUDL The .*
wouldn't match anything if regular expressions were off, so it'd try
to find the string:

  Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which it wouldn't find. But as others have suggested, just use the
same string, but without the .*... Unless the normal filter can do
wild card matching without regex enabled... If so, I missed it.

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