Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread MAU
Hello tb,

 But, also be aware of the following:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001866
 
 Ouch, well I hope to see some way to annotate or have useful memos per
 message soon.

Until Ritlabs does something, I am using a work-around that is good
enough for me. I am using a QT that I have called Memo.

,- [ Memo QT ]
| %To=%To=Memo%-
| %Subject=[Memo] %Osubj%-
| %Clear%-
| %Cursor
`-

So, when I want to annotate a message, what I do is reply to it a then
just type MemoCtrl+Space to execute the QT, then write my memo,
send it to the Outbox and manually move it to the appropriate folder. As
I use threading by Reference in 99% of my folders, the Memo message
will appear just below the message. Not perfect but good enough for me
so far.

BTW, if anyone wonders why I include Memo in the To field is so that the
message will go nowhere in case I send it by mistake.

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread tb

-- Friday, November 14, 2003, 3:36:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello MAU,

 Not perfect but good enough for me so far.

 And I forgot to say something. With this method I can write or assign as
 many memos as I may need to a single message (not just one) and the date
 and time of each one is automatically logged.

Yeah that's pretty cool..

Who does the mail really go To: ?

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread MAU
Hello tb,

 Who does the mail really go To: ?

Nobody. I just put it in the Outbox and from the Outbox, without
actually sending it, I move it to the appropriate folder.

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Friday, November 14, 2003, 10:38 AM, you wrote:


M Nobody. I just put it in the Outbox and from the Outbox, without
M actually sending it, I move it to the appropriate folder.

to answer his question, I created your memo QT, created a message and
hit SEND ( oh, of **course** by mistake:) and got an error. With a To:
of Memo, it can't go anywhere, unless you are running Mercury and create
a local user named Memo, or change the To: to a local user...hm


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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread tb

-- Friday, November 14, 2003, 9:38:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who does the mail really go To: ?

 Nobody. I just put it in the Outbox and from the Outbox, without
 actually sending it, I move it to the appropriate folder.

So you Queue in Outbox or Save Draft ?

I think I'll just hope/wish for a memo improvement.



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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread MAU
Hello tb,

 So you Queue in Outbox or Save Draft ?

I queue in Outbox. The only difference is that if you Save Draft, when
you want to move the msg to another folder you will be asked to confirm
that you want to move Parked messages as well.

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread MAU
Hello Paul,

 ...unless you are running Mercury and create a local user named Memo,
 or change the To: to a local user...hm

In my case, I am running Mercury and I have no local user named Memo.
But any ilegal address will work work just the same.

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread drifthat
Yep, I also like option #2. Maybe you can write a plugin for this ;-)
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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Friday, November 14, 2003, 1:12 PM, you wrote:


 ...unless you are running Mercury and create a local user named Memo,
 or change the To: to a local user...hm

M In my case, I am running Mercury and I have no local user named Memo.
M But any ilegal address will work work just the same.

right, I don't have a Memo user either, but I do have a local user
Paul oh wait, I turned off the POP3 services, I'm only using SMTP
right now. Oh well, good idea anyway!


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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-14 Thread tb

-- Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 8:21:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yep, I also like option #2. Maybe you can write a plugin for this ;-)

I wish that was possible with TB. I would do it immediately.

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-13 Thread Joseph N.
   On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on the subject of TB!'s
memo autoview.

FWIW, I think your suggestions are excellent.  I occasionally use the
memo feature, but your ideas would be valuable enhancements.

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Ouwehand
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:11:40 -0600 (2003-11-13 01:11:40 in .nl) in the
message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
you wrote (at least in part):


tko Does anyone use this?

Yes, I do. And I like your suggestions.

But, also be aware of the following:
http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001866

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Re: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-13 Thread tb

-- Thursday, November 13, 2003, 6:55:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

tko Does anyone use this?

 Yes, I do. And I like your suggestions.

 But, also be aware of the following:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001866

Ouch, well I hope to see some way to annotate or have useful memos per
message soon.

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Re[2]: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Ouwehand
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:02:31 -0600 (2003-11-14 02:02:31 in .nl) in the
message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you
wrote (at least in part):

 But, also be aware of the following:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001866

tko Ouch, well I hope to see some way to annotate or have useful memos per
tko message soon.

That's what I've been hoping for, soon please.
So I will have a valid reason to _force_ the users on the network I
administer and on which I introduced TB!, to finally delete/save their
mostly bloody huge attachments from an email and make a note/memo of it
to conserve email message / storage space.
Till now I can't _force_ them, cause of the mentioned reason.

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Re[2]: Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Ouwehand
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:02:31 -0600 (2003-11-14 02:02:31 in .nl) in the
message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you
wrote (at least in part):


-- Thursday, November 13, 2003, 6:55:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

tko Does anyone use this?

 Yes, I do. And I like your suggestions.

 But, also be aware of the following:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001866

tko Ouch, well I hope to see some way to annotate or have useful memos per
tko message soon.

All below with respect to the reported bug.



Yet another comment, hope TB! programmers are listening in too:
.TBI files seem to be indexing files, used for easy / fast access to
.TBB files.

My opinion (and probably numerous database admins):
Thy shall _never_ _ever_ use an indexing file to store data, of any kind.

Someone else (on here or elsewhere) once mentioned that flags / parked /
deleted information is stored in .TBB _and_ .TBI files (probably to be
recreated in case of)

So, why store memos in .TBI files, how's that to be recreated in
case of.., I wonder ? It should _not_ be there to start with.

Anyone who's got close connections to TB! developers (and ability to
change things): please feel free to forward this email.

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Memo Autoview (ctrl-shift-i)

2003-11-12 Thread tb

Does anyone use this? I find something similar very useful in Becky.
Unfortunately I registered and greatly prefer The Bat. In TB the Memo
Autoview doesn't minimize with TB. It's fairly useless like that. I am
forced to close it when I minimize TB. Then re-open it explicitly.

It would be much less useless if any of the following were true.

0. It is not shown when TB is minimized.

..and any of the following..

1. If when enabled it popped back up after being closed for messages with a memo
2. If it was a tab on the bottom of the message views, like there is a tab for
   rendered html and text and even attachments. (Heck, while were add it, add
   the option to (OPTIONALLY of course) always show a headers tab down there)
3. If the dialog (and others like it) could be popped/snapped into the interface 
somewhere.

I prefer option #2, but #1 would be a decent compromise in the short term.
Listing 0 is implied and universally preferred with any possible option.

Does anyone care? I know we can talk about features or changes you want
instead or which take priority, but here's mine. I think it would be great
to add notes to messages, and think it would be even better (from one
standpoint) to fix a feature TB already has.

I would write a plugin for this sort of functionality if the TB API allowed
it. Does it? Does TB expect to have a plugin arch. which would allow in-depth
plugins as in Becky?

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