Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hello Melissa, Saturday, November 12, 2011, 6:10:38 PM, you wrote: Hi, On Wednesday, November 09, 2011, at 11:11:28 AM PST, I wrote: Are there any specific issues/problems I should be aware of in moving my Bat installation from this Win XP machine to my new Win 7 machine? I realize it's in bad form to reply to myself, and I apologize for this, but since no one else replied to this message, someone had to do it! ;) Just wanted to offer a little update... Though I'm still waiting for my new OS software to be delivered (thought it would arrive last week, but it looks like it'll be Monday instead), I did decide to at least give this Bat migration a good test. I'm happy to say that while the backup/restore process wasn't perfect in every way, it was mostly painless, and now I have a perfectly working Bat on this new machine. During my first attempt at fresh installation and restoration from backup, I ran into a problem that still seems a bit peculiar to me, but I got around it for the moment: it kept claiming to be unable to create a Mail folder within the main Bat program folder. At this point, the installation would abort. I finally tried one of the other options, and that allowed the installation to continue. Then... On answers.microsoft.com forum someone asked a question about Access denied on editing file under c:\program files\ and the answer was that in Windows 7 applications are not supposed to store user-writable files in the Program Files folder. That's what the ProgramData folder is for. Someone else chimed in that instead of installing the program to the Program Files folder to install it to another folder then the built-in restrictions on writing to the Program Files folder would not apply. -- Best regards, Brianmailto:bwmarco...@runbox.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi Brian, On Wednesday, November 16, 2011, at 11:48:11 AM PST, you wrote: On answers.microsoft.com forum someone asked a question about Access denied on editing file under c:\program files\ and the answer was that in Windows 7 applications are not supposed to store user-writable files in the Program Files folder. That's what the ProgramData folder is for. Thank you - that's interesting! :) Someone else chimed in that instead of installing the program to the Program Files folder to install it to another folder then the built-in restrictions on writing to the Program Files folder would not apply. Here's my actual agenda in this regard... During initial installation, I just wanted an easy place (easy for me to remember/find) to temporarily store the Mail folder, so that once everything was up and running as I wanted, I would then take that folder out and put it into an encrypted TrueCrypt volume - in an undisclosed location (sort of like a vice-president ;)). Thanks again - I appreciate the information! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi On Wednesday 16 November 2011 at 7:48:11 PM, in mid:6710644364.2016144...@runbox.com, Brian wrote: On answers.microsoft.com forum someone asked a question about Access denied on editing file under c:\program files\ and the answer was that in Windows 7 applications are not supposed to store user-writable files in the Program Files folder. That's what the ProgramData folder is for. Sounds like %programfiles% and %appdata% on XP. Someone else chimed in that instead of installing the program to the Program Files folder to install it to another folder then the built-in restrictions on writing to the Program Files folder would not apply. That works on XP as well but I think the usual solution is to run as an administrator account instead of a user account... -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com I'll tell you what's the matter! This parrot is dead! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 12 Nov 2011, @ @ at 15:10:38 -0800, when Melissa Reese wrote: I realize it's in bad form to reply to myself, and I apologize for this, but since no one else replied to this message, someone had to do it! ;) Absolutely! Talking to own self is sometimes the best solution. (: I mean talking it out is better than be silent. . Now everything is up and running, and working very well! :) There you see... You just were persistent and solved little bunch of problems... I like your mind. I'm still wondering why the new installation had trouble creating a Mail folder within the main program folder, but this is something I can investigate at my leisure. Well, so it is... Behind every software stands some mind, who made it, that is accustomed to work some way. So if you try to do things other way with some software, it will not work, for a first several while(s?). But if you _really_ need something done one defined way it will work at the end. The specific mind of the given software will accept what you need. It will surrender to your will/needs. - I give no bit no more to the stories of computers' exactness and 'scientific' roots, they are in their essence totally irrational things: now it will work, now it will not. It all depends on various planetary cycles, moon phases (pay attention that these days is in full phase), a fly sitting or not on the memory stick, air humidity and who knows what else. The living example is Windows(r) itself, and we all know this. At the end, we need an entire system of the lists dedicated to howtos, to cope with TB!! (: A piece of software. (: Is this for nothing? Of course it is not. Just don't give up no matter what happens and watch the threads of the misty mystic law behind all this behavior. A solution always exists. This or that way... (: Have a happy day... -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi, On Wednesday, November 09, 2011, at 11:11:28 AM PST, I wrote: Are there any specific issues/problems I should be aware of in moving my Bat installation from this Win XP machine to my new Win 7 machine? I realize it's in bad form to reply to myself, and I apologize for this, but since no one else replied to this message, someone had to do it! ;) Just wanted to offer a little update... Though I'm still waiting for my new OS software to be delivered (thought it would arrive last week, but it looks like it'll be Monday instead), I did decide to at least give this Bat migration a good test. I'm happy to say that while the backup/restore process wasn't perfect in every way, it was mostly painless, and now I have a perfectly working Bat on this new machine. During my first attempt at fresh installation and restoration from backup, I ran into a problem that still seems a bit peculiar to me, but I got around it for the moment: it kept claiming to be unable to create a Mail folder within the main Bat program folder. At this point, the installation would abort. I finally tried one of the other options, and that allowed the installation to continue. Then... I have several current accounts, along with many folders of [much] older accounts just used as archives at this point. When I chose select all (all folders/sub-folders), clicking next would bring me to a not responding error, and again, the installation would abort. I tried again (after removing the newly created RIT folder in the registry), and same problem. So then... I cleared the registry again, and started another fresh install. This time, I only selected the two most essential current accounts for restoration, and finally, everything went smoothly. Once I got that going, I decided to recreate the two other active accounts one-by-one from scratch (didn't really need to keep those particular account archives anyway). Now everything is up and running, and working very well! :) I'm still wondering why the new installation had trouble creating a Mail folder within the main program folder, but this is something I can investigate at my leisure. Thanks again to those who offered their help in the other thread. -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi, Tonight, I'll be migrating from this old Win XP (32 bit) desktop computer to a new Win 7 (64 bit) laptop. In order to make this as painless as possible, I hope I can get a few questions answered before I leap... I've never yet used the restore from backup function in the Bat, so this will be a new experience for me. As I try to understand it, here's what I'm planning on doing... 1. Install a fresh copy of Bat (v4.2.44.2) on the new machine, and input my registration code. 2. Restore from saved copy of backup (will have this saved on an external drive) 3. Replace default Mail folder with copy of current Mail folder (it's nearly 2 GB) 4. Install a new copy of TrueCrypt, move Mail folder into new TrueCrypt volume in a new location, then set appropriate new Mail file location within Bat preferences. I'm hoping this process will yield a perfectly functional clone of my current Bat setup. Does all this seem reasonable, so far? Are there any specific issues/problems I should be aware of in moving my Bat installation from this Win XP machine to my new Win 7 machine? Then... I've been using K9 SPAM filtering for many years now. Will this older program still work on a Win 7 64 bit machine? Thanks for any and all comments, recommendations, etc. that you might be able to offer! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
