Re: Printing problem

[REZK945]

Hi Stuart,

am Donnerstag, 22. April 2010 um 14:43 schrieben Sie:

> Hello Harald,
>   A reminder of what Harald Faber typed on:
>   Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 09:43:07 GMT +0200

HF>> since several versions I suffer from a strange behaviour concerning 
printing.
HF>> I can only print once. If I try it for another time, nothing happens. Not
HF>> even the print dialog opens. I always have to restart TheBat. Any hints?

> Are you using Windows 7 by any chance. This has happened to me when I made the
> switch, however it has now corrected itself.

This happens under Windows XP home with TheBat 4.2.33.9 professional but also
happened with previous TheBat versions. I hooped for solution for some
TB versions now. ^^

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Re: Printing problem

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Harald,
  A reminder of what Harald Faber typed on:
  Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 09:43:07 GMT +0200

HF> since several versions I suffer from a strange behaviour concerning 
printing.
HF> I can only print once. If I try it for another time, nothing happens. Not
HF> even the print dialog opens. I always have to restart TheBat. Any hints?

Are you using Windows 7 by any chance. This has happened to me when I made the 
switch, however it has now corrected itself.

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Re: Printing problem

[Alexander E. Gutman]

Hello, friends.

Harald Faber (HF) 22.04.2010 (14:43):

HF> since several versions I suffer from
HF> a strange behaviour concerning printing.
HF> I can only print once.
HF> If I try it for another time, nothing happens.
HF> Not even the print dialog opens.
HF> I always have to restart TheBat.

Printing works just fine in my 4.2.33.9.

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Printing problem

[Harald Faber]

Hi all,
since several versions I suffer from a strange behaviour concerning printing.
I can only print once. If I try it for another time, nothing happens. Not even 
the print dialog opens. I always have to restart TheBat. Any hints?
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Re: Printing problem

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Harald,

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:29:05 +0200 GMT (01/Oct/09, 12:29 PM +0700 GMT),
rezk...@gmx.de wrote:


Rgd> Hi all,
Rgd> is this a known issue that TheBat (4.2.10.1 pro) has problems with
Rgd> printing?

No, not known over here.

Rgd> I haven't found out when this happens, but it occurs
Rgd> occasionally that when I setup the printer settings, followed by
Rgd> "print", nothing happens. I am almost sure that this also happens
Rgd> without using the printer setup before printing. When I restart TheBat
Rgd> and try to print, everything is fine.

I have not experienced this, nor heard of it. Can you tell us a bit
more about your configuration: Windows version, printer brand and
model, printer on PC or network printer?

Rgd> Any explanation? Can I find a protocol, logfile or errorfile
Rgd> somewhere?

If nothing happens, I guess no log will be generated. But you could
look whether you have a file starting with "exceptions" (and then
something, I forgot) in your TB! directory. This is where TB! writes
any errors to.

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Printing problem

[REZK945]

Hi all,
is this a known issue that TheBat (4.2.10.1 pro) has problems with
printing? I haven't found out when this happens, but it occurs
occasionally that when I setup the printer settings, followed by
"print", nothing happens. I am almost sure that this also happens
without using the printer setup before printing. When I restart TheBat
and try to print, everything is fine.

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Re[2]: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

[Mike email (The Bat!)]

Hi

Saturday, August 28, 2004, 7:06:13 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:


TF> I have received the plain-text message and printed it out. To my
TF> surprise, I confirm:

TF> 1.) When printing the message as is, the details after the colons are
TF> printed onto the next line, even though there seems to be no reason
TF> for it.

TF> 2.) When hitting reply and then printing it, it prints correctly.

TF> I am not sure why this is happening. I went into the headers I found
TF> in the original message:

TF> X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404)
TF> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;

TF> While I don't see the reason for multipart/mixed, I think you have no influence
TF> on it anyway. However, this might give someone else a clue for this
TF> behaviour, because the reply (which prints fine) shows:

TF> MIME-Version: 1.0
TF> Content-Type: text/plain;

TF> It looks like TB has a problem printing multipart/mixed, but I cannot
TF> run a test series right now. Maybe this came up earlier?


  Just a thought. Is it possible to alter this behaviour using
  macros in a print template?

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Re: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Vark,

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:25:52 +0100 GMT (29/08/2004, 00:25 +0700 GMT),
Vark wrote:

V> Copy of message sent to you directly. Thanks for your assistance thus far.

I have received the plain-text message and printed it out. To my
surprise, I confirm:

1.) When printing the message as is, the details after the colons are
printed onto the next line, even though there seems to be no reason
for it.

2.) When hitting reply and then printing it, it prints correctly.

I am not sure why this is happening. I went into the headers I found
in the original message:

X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404)
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;

While I don't see the reason for multipart/mixed, I think you have no influence
on it anyway. However, this might give someone else a clue for this
behaviour, because the reply (which prints fine) shows:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;

It looks like TB has a problem printing multipart/mixed, but I cannot
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Re[2]: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

[Vark]

Hello Thomas,

Copy of message sent to you directly. Thanks for your assistance thus far.

Richard



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Re: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Vark,

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:00:25 +0100 GMT (29/08/2004, 00:00 +0700 GMT),
Vark wrote:

V> I can forward part of the email to the list if that would help
V> (data protection means I can't forward the whole thing).

If you forward it to the list or to me by PM, I will try and print it.

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Re[2]: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

[Vark]

Hello Thomas,

Thanks for the reply.

TF> Just a guess: Have you checked the margins at Message / Print Setup /
TF> General? It could be that the margins are set so that a new line is
TF> induced too early.

Tried changing the margins, and which editor was used to display the message. Appears 
to make no difference. Changing font size also makes no difference.

TF> This seems to contradict my theory but suggests another question: Are
TF> the incoming messages in plain text? If not, is the plain-text editor
TF> used for replying?

As above - I *think* I've tried all possible editor combinations.

Further tests - if I forward the email then the fault remains, but if I send it to 
another email client (Pegasus or OE) then it prints correctly. Copy/paste to another 
text editor also prints correctly. It does appear to be something with TheBat at this 
stage of the tests.

I can forward part of the email to the list if that would help (data protection means 
I can't forward the whole thing).

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Re: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Vark,

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:25:29 +0100 GMT (28/08/2004, 19:25 +0700 GMT),
Vark wrote:

V> Name  : x y
V> Category  : vvwx

V> Etc,etc for 2 pages worth of fields. These emails display in TB
V> in the correct format - the problem comes with printing.

V> If you print the email from the main screen, or open the email
V> and print it from there, the print format looks like this:

V> Name  :x
V> y
V> Category  :
V> vvwx

Just a guess: Have you checked the margins at Message / Print Setup /
General? It could be that the margins are set so that a new line is
induced too early.

V> However, if you pretend to "reply" to the email, and print it
V> from that screen, then the email prints exactly as displayed on
V> screen

This seems to contradict my theory but suggests another question: Are
the incoming messages in plain text? If not, is the plain-text editor
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Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

[Vark]

Hi all,

Having scanned thru the list messages in the archive, I couldn't find a solution to 
the following, so I hope someone here can help.

I've just moved a car hire firm over to using TB from OE, and that has gone fine, 
however they receive on a regular basis emails from another firm giving car hire 
details, in the following format:

Name  : x y
Category  : vvwx

Etc,etc for 2 pages worth of fields. These emails display in TB in the correct format 
- the problem comes with printing.

If you print the email from the main screen, or open the email and print it from 
there, the print format looks like this:

Name  :x
y
Category  :
vvwx

However, if you pretend to "reply" to the email, and print it from that screen, then 
the email prints exactly as displayed on screen - and most importantly, this is how it 
is meant to be printed.

(Note that, with the above, if you have more than one word after the colon on a line, 
it tends to print the first word on the same line and then the rest on a second line, 
whereas if there is only one word as the post-colon word, it tends to get put on the 
next line).

Having played with the various settings available to me, I've found no way to prevent 
this behaviour - your thoughts would be appreciated! (Oh, and it's printer independant 
- it happens on my Brother HL5150D, and their HP multi-function thing).

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Re: Printing Problem

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M> With version 1.60m, I'm running into a printing problem. If an
M> email is two pages or more, and I go to the print menu and tell TB
M> to print Pages From 1 To 1, the first page prints and then a blank
M> sheet is ejected with no printing on it.

M> This happens only in TB, not in any of my other programs, and I
M> can't figure out what's happening. It never happened with earlier
M> versions. I've had the problem only since switching to 1.60m.

There's an newer release of TB! being tested now. It should soon be
released. I'd suggest trying it when it's released. While waiting, it
may be best to just role back to the version that you had things
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Printing Problem

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

Please forgive me if this problem has already been raised.

With version 1.60m, I'm running into a printing problem. If an email
is two pages or more, and I go to the print menu and tell TB to print
Pages From 1 To 1, the first page prints and then a blank sheet is
ejected with no printing on it.

This happens only in TB, not in any of my other programs, and I can't
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I've had the problem only since switching to 1.60m.

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Re: Printing Problem with 1.53d

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Thomas!

On 3 Jan 2002 at 04:06:06 you wrote:

> BTW it seems to be pretty standard behaviour in Windows programs to
> just start printing all pages when you hit the print icon, but give
> you the dialog when using a menu. I find this in other programs as
> well. Good or not, I don't know. I hardly ever use the print icon in
> any app because of this.

At least in some of them the behaviour can be changed (configurable
toolbars!). Even in Word2K it can be changed - other than the
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Re: Printing Problem with 1.53d

[Alan Poulton]

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 3:10:47 PM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

> Now, hitting the print icon simply begins the printing process and all
> pages are printed.

I just assume that this is the standard in *all* Windows Programs, so I
_always_ use Ctrl-P to print. Even if I am going to take the default
settings.  That's when I just go Ctrl-P, Enter.  I would expect that
future versions of TB! will remain the way they are now with regards to
the Print button.

btw... it takes me longer to find the print button on the screen than it
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Re: Printing Problem with 1.53d

[Thomas F]

Hi Michael,

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:10:47 -0700GMT (03/01/2002, 07:10 +0800GMT),
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG> I recently upgraded from the 2000 Christmas edition to 1.53d. In
MSG> the Christmas version, hitting the print icon brought up the print
MSG> dialogue box and allowed me to decide which pages I wanted to print.

MSG> Now, hitting the print icon simply begins the printing process and all
MSG> pages are printed.

In order to avoid this (I also need to print only the first one or two
pages), I use the menu item Message / Print... so I can still choose
the pages to print.

BTW it seems to be pretty standard behaviour in Windows programs to
just start printing all pages when you hit the print icon, but give
you the dialog when using a menu. I find this in other programs as
well. Good or not, I don't know. I hardly ever use the print icon in
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Re: Printing Problem with 1.53d

[Dwight A Corrin]

On 2 Jan 2002, 5:10:47 PM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

> Why was this change made and is there any way I can have the
> dialogue box appear when I hit the icon, rather than having to go
> into the Message Print menu or hitting CTRL-P (which takes two
> hands, rather than a single click with the mouse for the icon)?

There is a program called fineprint www.fineprint.com which allows one
to print multiple pages on one sheet, or select pages to print and
pages to delete. It is a very useful utility, and might be even more
than just a good workaround for your need.

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Printing Problem with 1.53d

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I recently upgraded from the 2000 Christmas edition to 1.53d. In
the Christmas version, hitting the print icon brought up the print
dialogue box and allowed me to decide which pages I wanted to print.

Now, hitting the print icon simply begins the printing process and all
pages are printed.

I find this fairly wasteful, since I usually don't need to print 2nd
and 3rd pages of a number of emails I receive.

I believe that in the Halloween edition of 2000, clicking the icon
printed everything (same as in 1.53d), and I hated it. I was very
happy when the Christmas (2000) edition changed that and brought up
the dialogue box.

Now things seem to have taken a step backward.

Why was this change made and is there any way I can have the dialogue
box appear when I hit the icon, rather than having to go into the
Message Print menu or hitting CTRL-P (which takes two hands, rather
than a single click with the mouse for the icon)?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Printing problem

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Nick,

On Tue, 9 May 2000 20:02:42 -0700GMT (10/05/2000, 11:02 +0800GMT),
Nick Andriash wrote:

NA> Has anyone bothered to mention it to RitLabs, or are they aware of it, but
NA> waiting for a more opportune time to remedy the problem? ;o)

No. We've kept it secret from RitLabs and just want to see if they can
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Re: Printing problem

[Chuck Mattsen]

On Tuesday, May 09, 2000 at 10:02 PM or thereabouts, Nick Andriash
wrote the following about Printing problem:

>>> anyone else ever had this problem?

>> Yes, at least a few of us have reported it at last count.

Nick> We just went through 21 Betas, and this is the first I've heard
Nick> it mentioned that TB! has a printing problem. I don't print from
Nick> TB!, but still, I would think RitLabs should have been all over
Nick> this problem with the latest round of Betas.

Don't know if RitLabs is addressing it or not ... it's been mentioned
here at least once before today, and there was a thread on the beta
list for a day or two a couple of weeks back, if I remember correctly.

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Re: Printing problem

[Nick Andriash]

On Tuesday, May 09, 2000, 6:55:43 AM, Chuck Mattsen wrote:

Larry>> anyone else ever had this problem?

> Yes, at least a few of us have reported it at last count.

We just went through 21 Betas, and this is the first I've heard it
mentioned that TB! has a printing problem. I don't print from TB!, but
still, I would think RitLabs should have been all over this problem with
the latest round of Betas.

Has anyone bothered to mention it to RitLabs, or are they aware of it, but
waiting for a more opportune time to remedy the problem? ;o)


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Re[2]: Printing problem

[Gary Luther]

Hello Chuck,


Larry>> I have noticed lately that there are times when
certain Larry>> messages simply will not print.

I, too, ran into this just 2 days ago. I monitor my wifes mailbox but
do not delete from the server. She received a message that she wanted
me to print for her. TAIM (Try As I Might), I couldn't get the message
to print. The mailbox had two messages in it. The other one printed
fine. I chose to forward it to one of my other mailboxes and it then
would print.

I thought it was just a fluke but apparently others have seen this as
well.

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Re: Printing problem

[Larry Barrett]

Greetings again,

In  regards  to my "problem" with printing - I still could not get the
message  to print - so I dragged it to my Inbox and it printed. I then
dragged  it  back  to its original folder and it printed! Interesting,
huh?

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Re: Printing problem

[Chuck Mattsen]

On Tuesday, May 09, 2000 at 8:37 AM or thereabouts, Larry Barrett
wrote the following about Printing problem:

Larry> I have noticed lately that there are times when certain
Larry> messages simply will not print. Today, for example, I received
Larry> two different messages within my "family" folder. When I
Larry> clicked "print" on one - it printed - when I clicked on the
Larry> other - nothing! This has happened to me on a least three or
Larry> four other occasions. Is there something I should know? Has
Larry> anyone else ever had this problem?

Yes, at least a few of us have reported it at last count.

I don't print from TB! often, but have run across this twice so far
and, as you say, only with certain messages.  To date, I've not been
able to determine what is different about those messages, nor have the
others who have experienced it as far as I know.

In one case, though I could not print the message from my Inbox, if I
redirected it to myself via my ISP I *could* print the re-directed
message.

In another case (and the last one for which this printing problem
reared its head), I went into Message | Print Setup | Setup printer
and RE-selected my printer.  The non-printing message would then
print.  Haven't seen the problem since, but then, as I said, I rarely
print e-mail.

FYI, I've had the latest drivers for my printer (HP 820Cse) throughout
the difficulties.  I only mention this because someone will
undoubtedly point to outdated drivers or your printer, saying "those
printers are known to have problems ... blah, blah."

Let us know more info, if either of the above help, etc.


Chuck
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Printing problem

[Larry Barrett]

Greetings,

I have noticed lately that there are times when certain messages
simply will not print.  Today, for example, I received two different
messages within my "family" folder. When I clicked "print" on one - it
printed - when I clicked on the other - nothing!  This has happened to
me on a least three or four other occasions. Is there something I
should know?  Has anyone else ever had this problem?

Thank you.

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