Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:31:54 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Would someone be so kind as to explain the %ISSIGNATURE macro to me? JR I don't understand it's use. Many thanks. It's used to replace signatures. It will detect a signature as text that is followed by the TB! signature delimiter dash-dash-space (see me signature below). Take an example. Here's what my TBUDL signature looks like. It's set up as a quick template: - --start template- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\Cookies\cookie.txt" " Using TB! v%THEBATVERSION «» Win2k Pro SP1 %REPLYTO="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]" %FROM="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]" %ISSIGNATURE %SIGNCOMPLETE - --end template--- Note the presence of the %ISSIGNATURE macro. The handle for this signature is 'tbudl' If I wish create a new message or a reply to someone and I wish to use my TBUDL signature, I simply type 'tbudlCTRLSpaceBar' and the signature in the message disappears and is automagically replaced with the TBUDL signature. NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature delimiter will appear twice. Hope that helps. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "$$$ not found -- (A)bort (R)efinance (B)ankrupt " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4ed/AXeSHuB5k3EQLEvwCgiuQ5eYwTbkNVtZBz4qj1Qhye6HEAn1b4 lFUjccxQJgZ/AxHcNzAG2GKC =MsLX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi A, On 24 September 2000 at 10:32:06 GMT -0500 (which was 16:32 where I live) A . Curtis Martin wrote and made these points on the subject of "%ISSIGNATURE explanation": ACM NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter ACM automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If ACM you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature ACM delimiter will appear twice. And, to confuse even further, if you use the %ISSIGNATURE macro in a quick template and %QINCLUDE that QT into a normal template then in *that* circumstance it *doesn't* add its' own delimiter and unless you have the delimiter /in/ the main template then *no* delimiter will appear. :-/ No, I don't understand why nor do I understand the logic, but that's how it works and I'm used to it now. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Old School Pillars are Replaced by Alumni TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc4kDTnkJKuSnc2gEQKYaQCfeI2/7CpUqvcnKR2gpFyhSE0mpckAnjul ggCbBA80KSgS4G0aT/lXGa/D =MvIg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:55:57 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: ACM NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter ACM automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If ACM you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature ACM delimiter will appear twice. MDP And, to confuse even further, if you use the %ISSIGNATURE macro in MDP a quick template and %QINCLUDE that QT into a normal template then MDP in *that* circumstance it *doesn't* add its' own delimiter and MDP unless you have the delimiter /in/ the main template then *no* MDP delimiter will appear. :-/ MDP No, I don't understand why nor do I understand the logic, but MDP that's how it works and I'm used to it now. I have noted this as well but assumed that the %ISSIGNATURE template will kick in only if another signature is already present. IOW's it's only active when the template is being inserted in an already generated message body. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Computer Lie #1: You'll never use all that disk space. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc47bPAXeSHuB5k3EQJ+XQCcCqJgxlzg8cZaYy4zZXgFL7UeNJsAn2oJ YpKe7bMxctdhM1t74BZvGFj2 =/EkB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 24 September 2000 at 14:03:58 GMT -0400 (which was 19:03 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points on the subject of "%ISSIGNATURE explanation": JR Curtis thanks for your patient explanation but I must confess JR I'm sitll un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Let me put it this way: JR Here is one of my account "new message" templates. JR ||--| Begin Template |--|| JR Hello %TOFNAME JR %Cursor JR -- JR Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR JR %ISSIGNATURE Mistake! Your template is *not* a signature ... it contains one. The last two lines be replaced with one which says %QINCLUDE="JANSIG" JR ||--| End Template |--|| JR Here is one of my Quick Templates I have had to assume above that you have given your QT a handle of "JANSIG". JR ||--| Begin Quick Template |--|| JR JR -- JR Jan Rifkinson JR President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc. JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR Tel 203.431.1691 JR ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE ^^^ Here is where this belongs JR JR ||--| End Quick Template |--|| JR Could you use these templates to illustrate how one interacts with JR the other? I assume my new msg template would come up when I write JR a new msg from my account [rather than a folder] which might have JR it's own templates. If the above is a correct understanding then JR where would I place my cursor to insert the Quick Template example JR that I've provided. Thanks for your continued patience in JR explaining this issue. I hope the insertions I have made illustrate correct use of the macros required. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Microbiology Lab: Staph Only! TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5HiDnkJKuSnc2gEQLCCwCguh+d9aeQRwLubA1+lEUexNNTHzUAnjhF SBHmv39xWAV2mQIZf+4lJwL/ =adop -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
This message: 24/09/2000 20:42 GMT. Hello A, A reminder of what A ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 10:32:06 GMT -0500 ACM If I wish create a new message or a reply to someone and I wish to use ACM my TBUDL signature, I simply type 'tbudlCTRLSpaceBar' and the ACM signature in the message disappears and is automagically replaced with ACM the TBUDL signature. I've spent the last 45 minutes reading and re-reading all these postings about %ISSIGNATURE. I've been totally confused by the whole thing. With all due respect to Mark and Allie, you explanations didn't really clarify just exactly what it did. I got the impression that %ISSIGNATURE had to be defined in some way or have a particular template assigned to it. After stumbling about in the dark for a while I discovered exactly what it does. If you want to use a specific signature that is defined as a QT, then including %ISSIGNATURE in the template just removes the existing signature in (now forgive me if I'm wrong) exactly the same was as a regexp would remove a PGP signature. Without %ISSIGNATURE you end up with two signatures... Or am I completely on the wrong track? -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, On 24 September 2000 at 20:54:04 GMT +0100 (which was 20:54 where I live) Tony Boom wrote and made these points on the subject of "%ISSIGNATURE explanation": TB If you want to use a specific signature that is defined as a QT, TB then including %ISSIGNATURE in the template (That's "Quick Template", yes?) TB just removes the existing signature in (now forgive me if I'm TB wrong) exactly the same was as a regexp would remove a PGP TB signature. Well, soggier than that, but yes. TB Without %ISSIGNATURE you end up with two signatures... Or am I TB completely on the wrong track? Kind of. %ISSIGNATURE is a macro which only has relevance to Quick Templates. That's where it lives. If you invoke a Quick Template which has %ISSIGNATURE in it from *anywhere* in a message - in the editor or in a regular template - then any other signature in the message at that moment is replaced *immediately* with the signature in that Quick Template. It looks really good when you type the handle of a QT sig and watch it replace the current sig on the fly without moving the cursor. Is that any clearer? - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Eschew obfuscation TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5lFjnkJKuSnc2gEQK5lACgnVLnK7YZFMz7StrHL+hE8vhBKqUAoLP1 mh0/pZ9Ra+HQJHDtWQU/wUGr =Eupw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:03:58 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Curtis thanks for your patient explanation but I must confess I'm JR still un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Let me put it this way: JR JR Here is one of my account "new message" templates. JR JR ||--| Begin Template |--|| JR JR Hello %TOFNAME JR JR %Cursor JR JR -- JR Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR JR %ISSIGNATURE This doesn't have to be here. It should be in your quick template signature that you wish to replace the above signature with. JR JR ||--| End Template |--|| JR JR Here is one of my Quick Templates JR JR ||--| Begin Quick Template |--|| JR JR -- - you should remove the signature delimiter in this quick JR template JR Jan Rifkinson JR President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc. JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR Tel 203.431.1691 JR ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE should be here instead JR JR ||--| End Quick Template |--|| JR JR Could you use these templates to illustrate how one interacts with JR the other? If you create a message with the first of the two templates, in the editor window, apply the quick template by typing qt handleCTRLBackSpace. The %ISSIGNATURE macro deletes the first signature and replaces it with the quick template. If you do not remove the signature delimiter as I illustrated above, two signature delimiters will appear after you apply the quick template. JR I assume my new msg template would come up when I write a new msg JR from my account [rather than a folder] which might have it's own JR templates. If the above is a correct understanding then where would JR I place my cursor to insert the Quick Template example that I've JR provided. *anywhere* in the message body composition window. :-) JR Thanks for your continued patience in explaining this issue. It's my pleasure Jan. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Plasma is another matter. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc5tIPAXeSHuB5k3EQIwBQCg0rUXJ74OqU/7NPSSMX8u8ON6E2kAoOAy hoK731NUzRl2AILDzaMR0qcG =odS7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
This message: 24/09/2000 22:27 GMT. Hello Marck, A reminder of what Marck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 21:33:22 GMT +0100 MDP Is that any clearer? It is now that I've managed to get a working model of it. Maybe all these sleepless nights are taking their toll. I just could not follow the previous explanations. I've never used QT's till a day or so ago but I'm beginning to see the advantage of them. I'm going to start playing with them a bit more so expect a barrage of "New B to QT" messages :-) -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:01:00 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote:
JR --
JR Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR
JR %ISSIGNATURE
Mistake! Your template is *not* a signature ... it
contains one. The last two lines be replaced with one which says
%QINCLUDE="JANSIG"
JR I'm sitll un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Where did you *find*
JR the command "%QINCLUDE"? I couldn't find this anywhere
Yes, it's not listed with the other macros via the template editor
menus.
What %QINCLUDE does is to place the contents of a quick template in
another template.
My TBUDL signature is a quick template with the handle name 'tbudl'
The introductory line to this message to you was also created with a quick
template with handle name 'intro'.
The text that's quoted from your message was done using another quick
template who's handle name is 'quote'.
Now look at my reply template for this list:
- -start template--
%QINCLUDE="intro"
%CURSOR%QUOTESTYLE="I"%QINCLUDE="quote"
- --
%QINCLUDE="tbudl"
%SINGLERE
%TO=""%TO="%OFROMNAME on TB!UDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
- reply template---
You see? I can insert quick templates with the use of the %QINCLUDE
macro. If I didn't have the QINCLUDE macro to use, this is how my reply
template would appear.
- ---start template---
On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS",
%OFROMNAME wrote:
%CURSOR%QUOTESTYLE="I"%REGEXPQUOTES="(?s)(.*?)(^(-\s)?--(\s)?\n|^(-\s)?---(\s)?\n|\Z)"
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A. Curtis Martin..
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%REPLYTO="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
%FROM="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
%SIGNCOMPLETE
- ---end template---
See how much more complicated and tedious it would be. Also if I use a
quick template in several locations with the %QINCLUDE macro, editing
the quick template will reflect in all templates I use it.
Have I confused you even more?
I have had to assume above that you have given your QT a handle of
"JANSIG".
JR ||--| Begin Quick Template |--||
JR --
JR Jan Rifkinson
JR President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc.
JR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JR Tel 203.431.1691
JR ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE
^^^ Here is where this belongs
JR
JR ||--| End Quick Template |--||
JR OK, so I've now done this. Now what? Again I must ask where I would
JR place my cursor to substitute one signature for the other.
Create a new message. Now, place the cursor in the message body area,
anywhere but not adjacent to any other characters and type the handle
name for your signature template above followed by CTRLSPaceBar). The
signature in the message should now be changed to the quick template
one.
JR What is supposed to happen?
The old signature disappears and the new one takes it's place.
JR Everywhere I tried to insert a Quick Template
JR signature, the original signature ahead of the %ISSIGNATURE was not
JR replaced, meaning that I then had both signatures in view.
That's because you did not have the %ISSIGNATURE macro in the quick
template signature.
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Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 25 September 2000 at 19:01:00 GMT -0400 (which was 00:01 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points on the subject of "%ISSIGNATURE explanation": JR OK, so I've now done this. Now what? Well, this example is complete of itself in that your template has loaded the signature from the Quick Template. JR Again I must ask where I would place my cursor to substitute one JR signature for the other. That is another issue, separate from ordinary template. The anwser? Anywhere in the text. "Oh look - this is the wrong signature for this message...". JR What is supposed to happen? Wherever you are in the message body, type JANSIGCtrl+Space and your signature is swapped for the one in the quick template. JR Everywhere I tried to insert a Quick Template signature, the JR original signature ahead of the %ISSIGNATURE was not replaced, JR meaning that I then had both signatures in view. Clearly I still JR don't get this. Thanks again for your continued support. I just changed the sig on this message three times - the third time being back to the "MOD" signature I use for TBUDL. It doesn't matter where the cursor is, I just type the handle and hit Ctrl+Space. It just works. I don't know what you might be doing wrong. As long as the QT you're using has the %ISSIGNATURE macro in it, and as long as your message body has a signature delimiter (dash-dash-space) in it, the signature will be "hot-swapped". - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Everyone is entitled to my opinion TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc6LmDnkJKuSnc2gEQLUlQCgo680kgIfKRltoiFPA9pd555hCKYAoNHP /4KJiIS19UeM/SmT1dQ57T5c =LIBg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:39:15 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR I GOT IT - whopie. Works like a charm. With the two of you JR double teaming me, it finally sunk in. Thanks so much for your JR patience. Now aren't these templates just marvelous? vbg Glad to be of help. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The worst day fishing is better than the best day working. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc6UKvAXeSHuB5k3EQJvswCePwX/tzkX5GXh1pFk8GWqs8Ma0LYAoIJB /FQmUZ3etAcCHhAKnv2nOmMN =oEX8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
