Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hi On Thursday, 28 October, 2004, at 12:42:22 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: JS>>> Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's JS>>> invention. Z>> So why is TB! using it? > Dunno. Z>> TB! is not know for its adherence to MS "standards" and were can I change this Z>> in TB! from EML to MSG? Is this something that's changed since version 2? If I select "alternative forward" for an HTML message I get a blank message with an attachment called "1.msg" If I select "forward" the attachment is "message.html" -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
ON Thursday, October 28, 2004, 2:42:22 PM, you wrote: RO> Couldn't find a way in TB. Only thing I can think of is exporting to RO> .msg and then attaching it. Roelof, I did see that possibility to. I am wondering why they block EML and not MSG attachements when they are basicly the same file format There must be something in the EML file format that is causing these people to setup their mail server to strip these. Or is it an other case of cerebral overload termination (COT)? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Great golfers are simply ordinary people thinking well and doing extraordinary deeds. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hallo Gerard, On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:36:21 +0200GMT (28-10-2004, 13:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JS>> Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's JS>> invention. Z> So why is TB! using it? Dunno. Z> TB! is not know for its adherence to MS "standards" and were can I change this Z> in TB! from EML to MSG? Couldn't find a way in TB. Only thing I can think of is exporting to .msg and then attaching it. -- Groetjes, Roelof A vote on the tally sheet is worth two in the box. The Bat! 3.0.2.2 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpmVmZdxn2JR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hello Gerard! On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 7:32 AM, you wrote: MB>> Main Window of TB!, Options/Preferences/Protection. G> Thanks for the reply but I was looking to change the EML extension G> generated by TB! when you do an alternative forward with an HTML G> msg. Ah. I'd been reading the thread, but it wasn't all hanging together for me, since I avoid HTML in e-mail like the plague. I have that luxury, since I use TB! only for private correspondence and the mailing lists. :) G> I hope this make sense Yes, it does. I hope someone can tell you where to change it, if it can be changed. As you can tell, if you read very many of my posts, I'm still learning and still have so much to learn. I hope it is not an annoyance to people for me to pop up with non-relevant "solutions." -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.2 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
ON Thursday, October 28, 2004, 2:04:34 PM, you wrote: MB> Main Window of TB!, Options/Preferences/Protection. Hi Mary, Thanks for the reply but I was looking to change the EML extension generated by TB! when you do an alternative forward with an HTML msg. I hope this make sense ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- What's the point of washing off your ball when teeing off on a water hole? Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hello Gerard! On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 6:36 AM, you wrote, in part: G> were can I change this in TB! from EML to MSG? Main Window of TB!, Options/Preferences/Protection. I am so skittish of messing with TB!'s default here, however, that before I made a change I did a C&P to SmartBat, so that I could recover the default if my change caused me problems. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.2 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
ON Thursday, October 28, 2004, 9:15:36 AM, you wrote: JS> Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's JS> invention. Hi Jernej, So why is TB! using it? TB! is not know for its adherence to MS "standards" and were can I change this in TB! from EML to MSG? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 8:57:24, Gerard wrote: > So is there an EML equivalent extension not on the ban list that you know of? Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's invention. -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > Anticipated events never live up to expectations. -- Levy's Second Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
ON Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 1:17:33 PM, you wrote: RO> Specials -> Alternative forward RO> or Hi Roelof, Look what a customer of mine received in their mail when I attached the EML extension: This text was added by an EDS mail relay - This attachment has been stripped because it contains a file extension type that is not allowed. In order to receive this attachment, please have sender re-send it with a different file extension: BAT, CHM, COM, DLL, DRV, EML, EXE, PIF, SCR, or VBS. - End of text added by an EDS mail relay -- So is there an EML equivalent extension not on the ban list that you know of? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My worst day on the golf course still beats my best day in the office. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [the_bat] Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
ON Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 6:05:42 PM, you wrote: ASK> If I forward an HTML message, the forward message should open as HTML and ASK> the unaltered original message should be part of any forward/redirect. Hi Alexander, My feeling exactly. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- When you get up there in years, the fairways get longer and the holes get smaller. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [the_bat] Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hello Michael Acklin & everyone else 27-Okt-2004 16:21, you wrote: > I have no way of checking the actual message for sure, but I believe > the second method, as Roelof mentioned, with the box checked will show > the message in HTML to the person you are sending it to. I have tried that meanwhile, and it shows as plain text with an attachment of message.html (at least in Outlook). IMHO this should be improved. If I forward an HTML message, the forward message should open as HTML and the unaltered original message should be part of any forward/redirect. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 without smilies :-P Around us are pseudo-events, to which we adjust with a false consciousness adapted to see these events as true and real, and even as beautiful. -- R. D. Laing Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [the_bat] Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 7:02:48 AM, (Internet Time - @543) you wrote: Hello Alexander, ASK> When I use alternative forward, I end up with an empty reply template ASK> and a "1.eml" attachment with the original HTML message just as you ASK> said but em... ASK> Well, forwarding messages with MS Outlook here at work places the ASK> message, exactly as it was, in the message window & puts the forward ASK> headers on top of it - and this is what I would expect when I forward ASK> a (HTML) message. And redirecting should really put the HTML message ASK> into the editor exactly as it is - and not mangle and thus effectively ASK> destroy it (I end up with an .html attachment and the pictures as ASK> separate attachments, no good)... or is it just me? I just tried it both ways, with and with out the Account/Properties/Templates/Forward (Forward messages as attachments - Mime Standard). What I got was, with it UNCHECKED, like you the 1.eml, which wasn't what I was expecting. But when I CHECKED the box, I got a message with my Forwarding Template in one tab and the other tab message.html. I have no way of checking the actual message for sure, but I believe the second method, as Roelof mentioned, with the box checked will show the message in HTML to the person you are sending it to. Will have to try some more testing and will let you know. -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Vertullo: Fidonet's resident schizophrenic. pgpkN1haPY6C5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 1:17:33 PM, you wrote: Z>> Isn't alternative forward the same a redirect? > No. You can forward a message in two ways, with the original message > in the body of your message or with the original message as an > attachment. What is normal and what is alternative depends on > whether you've checked 'Forward messages as attachments (MIME > standard)' at Account -> Properties -> Templates -> Forward When I use alternative forward, I end up with an empty reply template and a "1.eml" attachment with the original HTML message just as you said but em... Well, forwarding messages with MS Outlook here at work places the message, exactly as it was, in the message window & puts the forward headers on top of it - and this is what I would expect when I forward a (HTML) message. And redirecting should really put the HTML message into the editor exactly as it is - and not mangle and thus effectively destroy it (I end up with an .html attachment and the pictures as separate attachments, no good)... or is it just me? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:02:55 +0200, "Alexander S. Kunz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I want to forward/redirect HTML and preserve the original message - >IMHO this is a must-have function, is this on the wishlist already? A whole lot of flaws regarding HTML formatting should be solved ages ago, but apparently are still not (high) on the priority list... For one thing: quoted e-mail addresses (between <>'s, as used by Outlook in quoted msgs) dissappear completely when you reply or Forward in TB!. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hallo Gerard, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:03:24 +0200GMT (27-10-2004, 13:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO>> Use alternative forward, that way the original message is sent as it RO>> is, as an attachment. Z> lIsn't alternative forward the same a redirect? No. You can forward a message in two ways, with the original message in the body of your message or with the original message as an attachment. What is normal and what is alternative depends on whether you've checked 'Forward messages as attachments (MIME standard)' at Account -> Properties -> Templates -> Forward Z> If not how do you do this alernative forward? Specials -> Alternative forward or -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpw7D04CufQY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
ON Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:54:37 AM, you wrote: RO> Use alternative forward, that way the original message is sent as it RO> is, as an attachment. Hi Roelof, lIsn't alternative forward the same a redirect? If not how do you do this alernative forward? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To score consistently, a golfer must think consistently. A sound, consistent pre-shot routine makes it easier. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hello Gerard, Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:40:40 AM, you wrote: > Can I please get some help on forwarding a HTML mail. [...] Funny - I've had the same problem just yesterday... > Does anyone have a solution for this? I haven't, sorry. Whats worse - same happens when you choose to redirect (bounce) an HTML message. :-( I want to forward/redirect HTML and preserve the original message - IMHO this is a must-have function, is this on the wishlist already? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
Hallo Gerard, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:40:40 +0200GMT (27-10-2004, 11:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z> Can I please get some help on forwarding a HTML mail. Z> The problem seems to be with embedded pictures. All the Z> receiving party sees when they select the HTML part is the text and Z> the little redboxes were the pictures should go and a list of JPG's Z> on the side. Use alternative forward, that way the original message is sent as it is, as an attachment. -- Groetjes, Roelof Before we go any further, do you love me? The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpn76CxMs2sZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
