Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Daniel, @30-Jan-2004, 19:58 +0100 (30-Jan 18:58 UK time) dAniel hAhler [DH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP ' DH>>> ^ ;) MDP>> That's there for GPG non-MIME signatures. The TB plug in strips MDP>> trailing blank lines before signing. I must update my templates MDP>> to make it conditional on non-MIME PGP signing being active. DH> what does this mean? If you sign with GPG it would fail without DH> the ' on the last line? No, it just means that without it, the signature block would be crammed up against the signature with no intervening blank line to space it out. DH> What's non-MIME? Clear text signature, not PGP-MIME signature. DH> has it to do with S-MIME? No. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 13:31:22 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP>>> Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP>>> TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 MDP>>> ' DH>> ^ ;) MDP> That's there for GPG non-MIME signatures. The TB plug in strips MDP> trailing blank lines before signing. I must update my templates MDP> to make it conditional on non-MIME PGP signing being active. what does this mean? If you sign with GPG it would fail without the ' on the last line? What's non-MIME? has it to do with S-MIME? Thanks for enlightenment.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Friday, January 30, 2004, MAU wrote... >> Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out >> how to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss >> something obvious? > It is not so obvious. Open the editor and then Alt+F12 and then look > for Utilities /Insert quick template :) I realized I should have read the rest of the thread, as it appeared everybody else had issues finding it too ;) Thanks. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello Jonathan, > Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out how > to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss something > obvious? It is not so obvious. Open the editor and then Alt+F12 and then look for Utilities /Insert quick template :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... > The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let > you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) > 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign > the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` Thought I'd give this a try, but unfortunately I cannot find out how to assign a key combo to a quick template... did I miss something obvious? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I can keep a secret, it's the people I tell who can't. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello Marck, On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:23:31 +GMT (30-1-2004, 12:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ... MDP> Well, in my case I have a much simpler template containing only MDP> '...' - no CRs ... I do them by hand to shape the text as I MDP> wish. MDP> The quick template I use is simply this: MDP> ,--/ Snipper \-- MDP> ... MDP> `--\ End /-- ... MDP> While in the Message editor, I press Alt-F12 to bring up the MDP> Shortcuts editor and navigate to "Main menu .. Utilities ... Insert MDP> quick template ... Snipper" and press Ctrl-Alt-X. MDP> Now I have a Ctrl-Alt-X key to replace the currently selected text MDP> with '...' in the message editor. ... Thanks a lot, it is working like a charm! -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Daniel, @30-Jan-2004, 13:47 +0100 (30-Jan 12:47 UK time) dAniel hAhler [DH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP>> An alternative is to put a single quote or something as an end point MDP>> and hit a backspace after it. DH> Like this? MDP>> Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP>> TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 MDP>> ' DH> ^ ;) LOL - not quite. That's there for GPG non-MIME signatures. The TB plug in strips trailing blank lines before signing. I must update my templates to make it conditional on non-MIME PGP signing being active. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Marten, @30-Jan-2004, 12:56 Marten Gallagher [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MG> On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 11:27:56 AM, you wrote: MG> Thanks everyone for your help - CTRL-X and manual CRs it is then. You might prefer Alt-X since Ctrl-X is used for 'Cut to clipboard'. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:27:56 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote: [snip] MDP> It is. %CURSOR should have helped here as a marker for where you MDP> want the cursor put after the macro has run, but it doesn't. I MDP> shall have to report a bug in that procedure. That would be great. Will you do this? [on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 05:08:39 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote:] MDP> An alternative is to put a single quote or something as an end point MDP> and hit a backspace after it. Like this? MDP> Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP> TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 MDP> ' ^ ;) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Marten, @30-Jan-2004, 09:39 Marten Gallagher [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: >> The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let >> you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) >> 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign >> the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` MG> Brilliant! ...so far... :-) MG> Can you see above? I defined QT as you said - with two CR after ... MG> but the trailing CR SPACE CR is ignored. MG> But maybe that's the best we can do? It is. %CURSOR should have helped here as a marker for where you want the cursor put after the macro has run, but it doesn't. I shall have to report a bug in that procedure. As I said to Daniel, you will have to adopt a slightly different habit of adding the CRs yourself. Or read up on products like PowerPro to add custom hotkeys to your application, but that's not a topic for this forum. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Henkdebruijn, @30-Jan-2004, 06:52 +0100 (30-Jan 05:52 UK time) Henk de Bruijn [H] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: H> H> Sorry for stepping in. H> I am pretty new to the Bat. It is not clear to me what has to be H> in the Quick Template. Well, in my case I have a much simpler template containing only '...' - no CRs ... I do them by hand to shape the text as I wish. The quick template I use is simply this: ,--/ Snipper \-- ... `--\ End /-- H> Sounds great, to select text and replace it with , just H> by using a keycombination. While in the Message editor, I press Alt-F12 to bring up the Shortcuts editor and navigate to "Main menu .. Utilities ... Insert quick template ... Snipper" and press Ctrl-Alt-X. Now I have a Ctrl-Alt-X key to replace the currently selected text with '...' in the message editor. You can assign a hotkey to any Quick template using this technique. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello Marck, On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:08:39 +GMT (30-1-2004, 6:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP> @30-Jan-2004, 05:46 +0100 (30-Jan 04:46 UK time) dAniel hAhler [DH] MDP> in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: Sorry for stepping in. I am pretty new to the Bat. It is not clear to me what has to be in the Quick Template. Sounds great, to select text and replace it with , just by using a keycombination. -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Daniel, @30-Jan-2004, 05:46 +0100 (30-Jan 04:46 UK time) dAniel hAhler [DH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP>> you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) MDP>> 'Snipper' DH> How would that look like? I've tried, but did not manage to get DH> an extra newline at the end: You make a good point there. ... DH> I also tried %- in the last line. Using %CURSOR there will put DH> the cursor down too many rows.. Yes - that's the only one that even thinks about working. I worked out why too. The intended cursor position is calculated before the marked text is removed and isn't changed when the text disappears. The best bet until they fix that bug is to forget it and adopt a habit of hitting a couple of enter keys after snipping. An alternative is to put a single quote or something as an end point and hit a backspace after it. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hello bats, on Thu, 29. Jan 2004 at 23:29:35 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP> you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) MDP> 'Snipper' How would that look like? I've tried, but did not manage to get an extra newline at the end: .-[ snipper QT ]- | | [snip] | | %REM='new line above' '--- I also tried %- in the last line. Using %CURSOR there will put the cursor down too many rows.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Peter, @30-Jan-2004, 03:13 +0100 (30-Jan 02:13 UK time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: PO>>> Think about Admin support. It should be available at all times! MDP>> It is. It's the editor that must be open, not just a "reply". MDP>> Just start a new message. PO> Uhm, the question was about deleting lines in some reply. True, but the answer was about defining custom keys for the editor to achieve that effect. ... PO> Well, the context conditions are in the program, linked to some PO> action. The action / 'what to do' can be defined external. Just PO> like with templates. It's made more complex because of the way TB lets you use the same keys to do different things in different places. There are a lot of keys used in editing that you may want to use for something else somewhere else. Where better to define each than in context? By letting you define keys "in situ" - what you want where you need it - it takes a level of complexity away from the act of defining the keys. Anyway - we may have to agree to disagree on this one. The fact remains, you can define keys that work in the editor and do pretty complex stuff. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Peter, @30-Jan-2004, 02:56 +0100 (30-Jan 01:56 UK time) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP>> Sort of ... but you do have to be in the place you want the key to MDP>> be active to be able to define it. Makes a kind of sense. PO> Not really if you want to install the client on more than one PC and PO> first need to wait for some msg to reply to before you can configure PO> something PO> Think about Admin support. It should be available at all times! It is. It's the editor that must be open, not just a "reply". Just start a new message. Defined keys have to have a context. It's too complication if you have a central location to define them and then have to specify the context besides that. IMHO, the way it is is 100% right. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Roelof, @30-Jan-2004, 01:24 +0100 (30-Jan 00:24 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Dan: DP>> You can only access it by going into a message reply window and DP>> then press Alt+F12 and then navigate there through "Main Menu" DP>> -> "Utilities" -> "Insert Quick Template" RO> Sheesh! That's an odd way to hide something. Sort of ... but you do have to be in the place you want the key to be active to be able to define it. Makes a kind of sense. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hallo Dan, On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:04:37 -0800GMT (30-1-04, 1:04 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DP> You can only access it by going into a message reply window and then DP> press Alt+F12 and then navigate there through "Main Menu" -> DP> "Utilities" -> "Insert Quick Template" Sheesh! That's an odd way to hide something. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hallo Marck, On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:29:35 +GMT (30-1-04, 0:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP> The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let MDP> you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) MDP> 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign MDP> the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` Am I using the wrong version or is it that that I'm blind to overlook a place in the Shortcut editor where you can assign a QT to a hotkey? I'm using 2.01.3 -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Hallo Admin, On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:27:48 +GMT (29-1-04, 23:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: AaA> I.e: when a message is being replied to - in the Message Editor window AaA> - if I highlighted a portion and did CTRL-DELETE it would place a CR AaA> then [snip] then CR. Can't be done with TB. What comes close is this: Create a quick template called CR (options - quick templates) Use as template two empty line separated with [snip] or if you prefer [text deleted for brevity] Next time you need this function, you just select the superfluous quotes, press CR followed by Ctrl-Space The CR will overwrite the selected text and the Ctrl-Space indicates that you want to call the QT (quick template) of that name. Note that this won't work properly when you quote partial sentences and the 'CR' is separated by a space from text before or after it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert [snip] on deleting a chunk
Dear Marten, @29-Jan-2004, 22:27 Admin at AK [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: ... MG> I.e: when a message is being replied to - in the Message Editor window MG> - if I highlighted a portion and did CTRL-DELETE it would place a CR MG> then [snip] then CR. ... MG> I am I missing something in TB or do I add it to the Wish List? You are missing something in TB :-). I just did the above 'snips' with Alt-X (my preferred keystroke for the job). The combination of Quick Template and the Shortcuts editor will let you define the 'CR [snip] CR' as a Quick Template called (say) 'Snipper' then Alt-F12 to get into the Shortcut editor and assign the key combo you want to use to fire it off.` -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
