Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
Hello Jan, On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 at 12:02:33 GMT -0500 (which was 9:02 AM where I live) witnesses say Jan Rifkinson typed: snip In the case of the problem entries, I have checked for typos without success. Ok, it was a long shot anyway. However, I have noticed that many of these problem replies are from eGroups but I don't see why that would make a difference to the ABxxxPPP macro assuming, of course, the person to whom I'm replying is entered in my AB. It shouldn't matter. E-groups doesn't change the From address. snip Then I have groups. Some entries belong to several groups as for ex: Home, Home Xmas List. I enter them in the groups by using the add to groups dialogue @ the entry level. Just to be 100% clear, you select an entry, edit properties and add the groups, right? Hmm, this gets stranger by the minute. If I do an F7 AB search on some of the names I have trouble with, search doesn't produce duplicates however those entries that belong to different groups appear on those lists. Wait, I can't reproduce this part. I created an address book with two groups, both with "Hide items..." selected. I then created some entries in each of the two groups. I made a couple of them members of both groups. The F7 search did not turn up multiple instances of any one contact. Check the properties of these entries, do they have all groups listed in all the copies you see in the search result? So is this a duplicated entry if so, how do I get around this. It looks like this might be the culprit. You could also uncheck "Hide Items if not explicitly selected" and see if any duplicates appear in the root list. Maybe there is a better AB construction you can suggest. Yours seems to be good. Hopefully the above works out. snip Although this is certainly a possibility, its also possible that others don't share my setup which, as you say, could be "really obscure". In either case, I'd say there is something squirrely going on that shouldn't be. Absolutely. When they were first introduced, I requested better error handling for the %AB macros. Unfortunately this was not implemented. Database debugging is not a fun task. I hope you don't give up on this quite yet, Januk. Not quite. ;-) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
Hallo Jan, On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:50:09 -0500 GMT (03/01/2001, 21:50 +0800 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Yes. In group properties I found a blank reply template but the JR "Use group-specific template for replies" was checked off. What JR puzzles me is why I would check a blank template for use. Some people want a "blank template", namely one that contains nothing. I see no reason to disable checking this option. I wouldn't want TB to force us to put something in there. JR What is TB!'s precedence when it comes to macros. How does TB! JR look @ account, folder, address book, group, AB entry when it JR comes to QT or macros. Where does TB! look for it's info. Precedence for Templates: Highest: AB Then: Folder Then: Account. -- Cheers, Thomas. -I'm really enjoying not talking to you, so let's not talk again real soon, okay? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48h under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
Hello Jan, On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 at 12:33:58 GMT -0500 (which was 9:33 AM where I live) witnesses say Jan Rifkinson typed: snip When I added a reply template with the same greeting macro selected it to be used for the above person, TB! bypassed it used the default template as above. You're sure there isn't a duplicate entry for this person, right? If you just created an entry, there probably is no duplicate. So that begs the question, how did you create the entry? Did you manually type in the address? Is it possible that you made a typo in either the AB entry or the new message? If not, then I'm at a loss. I don't know what other test to try to isolate this thing. Is it possible we are dealing with a bug in this macro? That's always possible. But since this seems to be limited to your situation, perhaps there is some little configuration thing we're missing. It could be something so obvious that we're all missing it, or it could be really obscure. I hope we find out soon. Good luck. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
Hello Jan, On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 at 08:52:59 GMT -0500 (which was 5:52 AM where I live) witnesses say Jan Rifkinson typed: In the TB! folder I inserted: Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="Hi %OFROMFNAME"', Something: Then I responded to your msg. Here you can see the result. As there is no "Something:" I haven't the vaguest idea where TB! is getting the template. Hmm, check to see if you have a folder level template. Or maybe your account default template is wrong? Do you use the %ACCOUNT macro in any of your templates? snip As you can see, I gave you a familiar middle name with this msg as the result. Well if you don't see the "Something:" then, it isn't likely that anything else will behave as expected, right? :-) I also went to my inbox where I rcv *non-list* msgs. There I found a msg, Ok, so it doesn't look like a folder template, check your account templates. How many accounts do you have in TB? Have you recently made any changes in the account structure (eg Number of TB accounts, where the accounts point, etc)? Have you recently played with any of the files in your Mail directory using tools other than TB? Have you recently restored from a backup? There were no duplicates for any of the 3 AB entries. I confirmed this by doing an F7 search of all my ABs. Interesting. H. Indeed. Let's hope we can find some clues here. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
Hello Jan, On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 at 21:18:54 GMT -0500 (which was 6:18 PM where I live) witnesses say Jan Rifkinson typed: TB! folder template begins with: Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="Hi %OFROMFNAME"', The account default template begins with: Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"', I do not use the %ACCOUNT macro in any of my templates Ok, that rules out one possibility. Do you have any AB templates at the group level? I'm not sure how you've organised your AB, so this is a bit of a wild guess. Januk Have you recently made any changes in the account structure Januk (eg Number of TB accounts, where the accounts point, etc)? I recently added 2 accounts but I don't know what you mean about where they point. Well, Account 1 in TB could refer to your main mail account on server A Account 2 refers to server B Account 3 refers to server C Each of these accounts has independent templates, so if you are using Account 2 when you think you're using Account 1, perhaps that's causing a problem. I'm just trying to slowly eliminate possibilities. snip The mystery thickens. Absolutely. What happens if you insert the greeting QT manually into a message? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01 January, 2001, 8:16 PM, I saw Jan's comments made on Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:41:48 -0500, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: JR Now here's my ABxxxPPP problem: I replied to a portion of a msg JR from Allie on the list. Using F4, The reply msg began with "Hi JR A.". The problem is that my greeting template looks like this: JR Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"' JR which should yield "Allie" because in my address book I have A JR Curtis Martin entered as follows: Remember that when you reply to one of my messages to the list, you're replying to the list and not me. It would appear that you don't have TBUDL's address in your address book, so it finally defaulted to %OFROMFNAME which is 'A.'. Generate a reply message to the original sender, me, by hitting CTRL+F4 and it should now say "Hi Allie,". [..rest snipped..] - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlEsx1fJ62ArBxfiEQLLMgCgguSOqIhld8md6+UN1bZ6bwtGdv4An0wY +GrcZn071Lry5RkKKflPUg/a =KjOp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
Hello Jan, On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 at 19:41:48 GMT -0500 (which was 4:41 PM where I live) witnesses say Jan Rifkinson typed: Now here's my ABxxxPPP problem: I replied to a portion of a msg from Allie on the list. Using F4, The reply msg began with "Hi A.". The problem is that my greeting template looks like this: Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"' Try adding two things: begin QT Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="Hi %OFROMFNAME"' Something: end QT When this QT is inserted, you should see at a minimum: Hi ... Something: The "Something:" tells you the QT is being used. If you see: Hi Hi ... Something: Then you know that none of the %ABxxxYYY macros are being used. If that happens, try it with a few people to see if it is specific to this one entry. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
Hi Allie, On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 at 20:20:07 GMT -0500 (which was 5:20 PM where I live) witnesses say A . Curtis Martin typed: snip JR Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"' JR which should yield "Allie" because in my address book I have A JR Curtis Martin entered as follows: Remember that when you reply to one of my messages to the list, you're replying to the list and not me. Not quite. Jan is using %ABofromPPP which means TB compares the original *from* address. The original *from* address is indeed your address. The original *reply-to* address is TBUDL's address. snip Generate a reply message to the original sender, me, by hitting CTRL+F4 and it should now say "Hi Allie,". Both should work if Jan has copied everything correctly. Jan, check for multiple entries in *multiple* address books. That will also cause problems. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48f - ABxxxPPP problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:34:00 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote these comments: Remember that when you reply to one of my messages to the list, you're replying to the list and not me. JA Not quite. Jan is using %ABofromPPP which means TB compares the JA original *from* address. The original *from* address is indeed JA your address. The original *reply-to* address is TBUDL's address. You're absolutely correct. What was I thinking? sigh [..rest snipped..] - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlE481fJ62ArBxfiEQKsRACfeDwPnRh6aUZGoxgvOARHRU74A0IAn09n ssNfyX47VYlp78xwjeGKUFhm =5d0m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
