Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Hi On Friday 29 July 2005 at 4:06:28 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Anson wrote: MFPA On Fri 29 July 2005, 04:20:36 +1000, you wrote: I have the same version of TB! as your footer reports and that is not the case for my read filter, which simply applies a colour group to read messages. I have to apply the colour group manually. I have just replied to Chris with the solution in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you will find that works for you. My settings are: mark as read when viewed for 'x' seconds is ticked Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate window is not ticked. -- Best regards, MFPA Ballerinas are always on their toes. We need taller ballerinas. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Chris On Fri 29 July 2005, 15:27:57 +1000, you wrote: Perhaps I e-mailed too quickly. I tried it again and it worked on individual messages. Ranges still do not seem to be working. It is, however, late here now, so I will sleep and try again. I may be missing some small thing. No, I think I emailed too quickly. I had never tried to mark a range of messages read where there is also have a read filter to operate on them and did not check that. You are right, it does not work when more than one message is marked as read at the same time. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Hello Robin, You are right, it does not work when more than one message is marked as read at the same time. AFAIK that is a 'limitation' or 'peculiarity' of Read filters, they don't trigger when you select several messages and mark them as read. Same thing when you select a folder and do Mark all Messages Read. I learnt this many moons ago, I believe it was 9Val who clarified this to me. I use read filters to 'process' web queries (100s many days) that get placed in an specific folder by Incoming filters. In order to avoid having to mark each message individually I have to first mark all as read and then do a manual re-filter. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Hi On Monday 25 July 2005 at 9:56:16 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote: Marking a message as read with Ctrl+M (or your equivalent) does not trigger the filter. I'm sure there is some logic behind this but I find it a real pain and consider it to be a bug. -- Best regards, MFPA Put knot yore trust inn spel chequers Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Hi On Monday 25 July 2005 at 10:52:47 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Anson wrote: Paul On Tue 26 July 2005, 04:49:03 +1000, you wrote: Ok, I did have the option selected, although after your reply I can now get the filter working. However it only appears to work on messages which are read for the first time. Is there anyway that the filter can work on messages which are read rather than just those read for the first time? In my version of TB! read filters work each time the message is marked read. If I toggle a message from read to unread and back to read, the filter will work properly. I have the same version of TB! as your footer reports and that is not the case for my read filter, which simply applies a colour group to read messages. I have to apply the colour group manually. -- Best regards, MFPA Is it possible to be a closet claustrophobic? Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
MFPA @ 2005-Jul-28 2:15:45 PM Using a Read Messages filter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marking a message as read with Ctrl+M (or your equivalent) does not trigger the filter. I'm sure there is some logic behind this but I find it a real pain and consider it to be a bug. As do I. Most annoying is that I cannot select a range of messages, mark them as read, and have my carefully designed filter execute. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. All people have moments of insanity; some people more often than others. pgpbnQHZucwYZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Hello Gerard, The Read msg filter is activated only when the msg is mark read atomically by the tiner function. If you have switched this off and mark them read by different means the filter is not activated. That is not true. I mark messages as read with the Space bar and Read filter are triggered. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Chris On Fri 29 July 2005, 08:11:50 +1000, you wrote: Marking a message as read with Ctrl+M (or your equivalent) does not trigger the filter. I'm sure there is some logic behind this but I find it a real pain and consider it to be a bug. As do I. Most annoying is that I cannot select a range of messages, mark them as read, and have my carefully designed filter execute. On my version of TB! (different to yours) there is an option under Account-Properties-Options to Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate window. If you untick your equivalent option (wherever it may now be found) I think you will find your messages get processed by the read filter as you want. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
MFPA On Fri 29 July 2005, 04:20:36 +1000, you wrote: I have the same version of TB! as your footer reports and that is not the case for my read filter, which simply applies a colour group to read messages. I have to apply the colour group manually. I have just replied to Chris with the solution in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you will find that works for you. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Robin Anson @ 2005-Jul-28 11:05:13 PM Using a Read Messages filter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On my version of TB! (different to yours) there is an option under Account-Properties-Options to Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate window. If you untick your equivalent option (wherever it may now be found) I think you will find your messages get processed by the read filter as you want. If I uncheck that box, the filter never executes. If I then turn on timer marking, it still works. However, I still cannot select a range and mark them as read. It seems odd that this feature has disappeared from my later version. Can you give us more of a picture of your settings? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. [Warning on knife]: Caution. Blade is sharp. Keep out of children. pgpG9TVVHykWW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Chris On Fri 29 July 2005, 13:42:06 +1000, you wrote: On my version of TB! (different to yours) there is an option under Account-Properties-Options to Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate window. If you untick your equivalent option (wherever it may now be found) I think you will find your messages get processed by the read filter as you want. If I uncheck that box, the filter never executes. If I then turn on timer marking, it still works. However, I still cannot select a range and mark them as read. It seems odd that this feature has disappeared from my later version. Can you give us more of a picture of your settings? How bizarre. I have only two options (that I can find) related to marking messages as read. They are Mark message as read when it is being read for ... (number of seconds) and Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate window I have both of these unchecked, so the only way a message gets marked as read is when I do so using a keyboard shortcut. My read filters get executed each time a message changes from unread to read. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Robin Anson @ 2005-Jul-28 11:58:09 PM Using a Read Messages filter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If I uncheck that box, the filter never executes. If I then turn on timer marking, it still works. How bizarre. I have only two options (that I can find) related to marking messages as read. They are Mark message as read when it is being read for ... (number of seconds) and Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate window Yes I have both of those unchecked. I have both of these unchecked, so the only way a message gets marked as read is when I do so using a keyboard shortcut. My read filters get executed each time a message changes from unread to read. Perhaps I e-mailed too quickly. I tried it again and it worked on individual messages. Ranges still do not seem to be working. It is, however, late here now, so I will sleep and try again. I may be missing some small thing. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Clearly misunderstood pgpmZd5228aB9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
ON Monday, July 25, 2005, 8:49:03 PM, you wrote: PM Ok, I did have the option selected, although after your reply I PM can now get the filter working. However it only appears to work on PM messages which are read for the first time. Is there anyway that the PM filter can work on messages which are read rather than just those read PM for the first time? Hi Paul, You will have to mark them unread first. After that the filter will be activated again when marked read again. I have the read timer set to a very small value so I can almost scroll through them. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The problem with doing nothing is that you never know when you're done. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
ON Monday, July 25, 2005, 7:13:51 PM, you wrote: PM Hi all, PM This filter doesn't appear to do anything! Am I misunderstanding what PM the Read messages group is for or is there another way to achiever PM this? I've tried using the help but I can't find any details about the PM Read messages group. Paul, The Read msg filter is activated only when the msg is mark read atomically by the tiner function. If you have switched this off and mark them read by different means the filter is not activated. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The creator of the universe works in mysterious ways. But he uses a base ten counting system and likes round numbers. -- Scott Adams Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Paul Meathrel @ 2005-Jul-25 1:13:51 PM Using a Read Messages filter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This filter doesn't appear to do anything! Am I misunderstanding what the Read messages group is for or is there another way to achiever this? I've tried using the help but I can't find any details about the Read messages group. Read Message filters are only activated (for now, hopefully), when an unread message is marked read by the timer, by opening the message in its own window, or by space bar navigation. Marking a message as read with Ctrl+M (or your equivalent) does not trigger the filter. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. On the door of a Computer Store: Out for a quick byte. pgp32qwLkEUAS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Paul On Tue 26 July 2005, 04:49:03 +1000, you wrote: Ok, I did have the option selected, although after your reply I can now get the filter working. However it only appears to work on messages which are read for the first time. Is there anyway that the filter can work on messages which are read rather than just those read for the first time? In my version of TB! read filters work each time the message is marked read. If I toggle a message from read to unread and back to read, the filter will work properly. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a Read Messages filter
Gerard On Tue 26 July 2005, 03:55:10 +1000, you wrote: The Read msg filter is activated only when the msg is mark read atomically by the tiner function. If you have switched this off and mark them read by different means the filter is not activated. Not in my version of TB!. I have a number of read messages filters and I only ever mark messages read manually (using a keyboard shortcut). So, unless there has been a change in functionality in this area in v3.5, if Paul has a problem I suggest it must lie somewhere else. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
