Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Greg Strong]

Hello Kariem,

Saturday, November 27, 2004, 7:39:33 AM, Kariem Hussein wrote:

>> Instead of deleting could also export to file for safe keeping if
>> desired.

> I did not see any option for that in the Message Finder. But I think you
> propose putting them in a folder and then archiving the folder.

Yes.

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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Jernej Simoncic]

On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 11:03:29, Kariem Hussein wrote:

> I used to think of Pine (or Horde Webmail), where the user is asked at 
> the start of each month to automatically clean some folders. The problem 
> is that I do not only want to delete these messages, but save them 
> somewhere in order to access them later on. A big part of my life is 
> saved in my email messages :)

I use "Delete messages older than" and have folder-specific deletion set
that Normal deletion just moves those messages to an Archive subfolder.

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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Kariem Hussein]

Hi,
Roman Katzer [21.11.2004 18:34]:
The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
per-folder-basis.
Create a common virtual folder that watches all folders you have and
select a filter criterion (message older than ...). All messages created
before that date will be in that folder.
I think this is a very good advice. I really like the virtual folders 
approach. Especially for this task I would not always have to specify 
the parameters.

Thank you,
Kariem

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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Kariem Hussein]

Hi,
Greg Strong [21.11.2004 18:52]:
Sunday, November 21, 2004, 7:02:00 AM, Mica Mijatovic wrote:
You could do that by searching for messages using "Advanced" tab in
"Message Finder" (F7), where you could do that by date(s) in "all
accounts".
Now this sounds too easy. I could do this every two or three months. Great!

This is probably the fastest on a 1 time basis although no threading
(Alt+0) should be used before selecting all (Ctrl+A) and deleting.
Thanks for the advice.

Instead of deleting could also export to file for safe keeping if
desired.
I did not see any option for that in the Message Finder. But I think you 
propose putting them in a folder and then archiving the folder.

Thank you,
Kariem

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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Kariem Hussein]

Hi,
Thank you your answer. I just did not have the time to reply earlier.
Thomas Fernandez [21.11.2004 13:31]:
KH> The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
KH> per-folder-basis. I have to select "keep in message base for (days)" in
KH> each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item).
That's the way to go. You have to indeed set this on a per-folder
basis, but once you've done it, you're through. If you are looking for
a global setting, this doesn't exist AFAIK.
Ok, thanks though. This would really take a lot of time. An if I add 
some more folders, I have to tweak its settings again. But you are 
right. If I have set it once for a folder, I won't have to do it again.


Then, under Account / Properties / Mail Management / Deletion, you can
set it so that the messages are sent to an archive folder instead of
Trash.
That's good, I'll try it.

KH> It would be great to be able to search through the archives (=backups)
KH> at a later stage.
You can do that with the archive folders that you create. Others use an
external program call Mailbag, which can read TB message bases, but
I've never used it.
I just had a look at Mailbag. It can add your TB mailboxes one by one. 
Then I have the option to export it somewhere else. The problem is, that 
it cannot read the generated TB backup files (*.tbk), which would be the 
feature I am looking for.

But great information!
Thank you,
Kariem


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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Greg Strong]

Hello Mica,

Sunday, November 21, 2004, 7:02:00 AM, Mica Mijatovic wrote:

>  The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
>> per-folder-basis. I have to select "keep in message base for (days)" in
>> each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item). It
>> would be really long winded to do that with about 130 folders.

>> Do you have any suggestions?

> You could do that by searching for messages using "Advanced" tab in
> "Message Finder" (F7), where you could do that by date(s) in "all
> accounts".

This is probably the fastest on a 1 time basis although no threading
(Alt+0) should be used before selecting all (Ctrl+A) and deleting.
Instead of deleting could also export to file for safe keeping if
desired.

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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Roman Katzer]

On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 05:03:29, Kariem Hussein wrote:

> The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
> per-folder-basis.

Create a common virtual folder that watches all folders you have and
select a filter criterion (message older than ...). All messages created
before that date will be in that folder.

 
Regards,
Roman


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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
> per-folder-basis. I have to select "keep in message base for (days)" in
> each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item). It
> would be really long winded to do that with about 130 folders.

> Do you have any suggestions?

You could do that by searching for messages using "Advanced" tab in
"Message Finder" (F7), where you could do that by date(s) in "all
accounts".

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Re: backup and purge very old messages

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Kariem,

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:03:29 +0100 GMT (21/11/2004, 17:03 +0700 GMT),
Kariem Hussein wrote:

KH> What I'd like to do now:

KH>   # select a timeframe (e.g. >1 year)
KH>   # backup all these messages
KH>   # delete the messages from the message base

KH> The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a
KH> per-folder-basis. I have to select "keep in message base for (days)" in
KH> each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item).

That's the way to go. You have to indeed set this on a per-folder
basis, but once you've done it, you're through. If you are looking for
a global setting, this doesn't exist AFAIK.

Then, under Account / Properties / Mail Management / Deletion, you can
set it so that the messages are sent to an archive folder instead of
Trash.

KH> It would be great to be able to search through the archives (=backups)
KH> at a later stage.

You can do that with the archive folders that you create. Others use an
external program call Mailbag, which can read TB message bases, but
I've never used it.

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