Re: external links
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 6:08:44 PM, you wrote: All of the above it in theory. Any technology can be abused. However, I have seen a lot of good come out of the .NET Framework. I suggest that the next time you visit WindowsUpdate.com, you download the .NET Framework. NB: You might already have it. Thanks, I'll take a look. -- Jim Kling science writer Rockville, MD http://nasw.org/users/jkling Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 6:28:40 PM, you wrote: Bummer. I thought that might solve your problem. As Chris suggests, I'd search around in the Preferences dialog in Netscape. I don't use it either or I'd help you search. Can anyone using Netscape point Jim in the right direction? Thanks for your help. I've poked around Netscape without success. Tried setting it to IE and it does the same thing, and I couldn't find anything in its settings either. So I think what I'll do is open links in Netscape and set my taskbar to group windows by program (so the Netscape windows will at least be manageable). If that takes up too much memory and causes a problem, I'll open each link and then shut the window down and use history to track down the articles one by one. Not exactly an elegant solution, but it'll work. -- Jim Kling science writer Rockville, MD http://nasw.org/users/jkling Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 6:22:49 AM, you wrote: Instead of the plan you've described above, you could copy the link from the message or article and paste it into SmartBat. Then when you are ready to review the articles, just reopen SmartBat (F6) and click on the link. That avoids the potential memory drain on your system and gives you the ability to walk through the accumulated links when you are ready. Thanks for this idea. Unfortunately it seems to suffer from the same problem. When I click on the link in smart link, it opens a window. When I click on link 2, it opens a 2nd window. I've set a system wide hot key (Ctrl-Shift-F12) that opens SmartBat, no matter whether I am working in The Bat! at the time or not. Another potential benefit of using SmartBat is that you can set up another Pad (as they are called, really just a text file) for clips from the articles you are reviewing, should you wish to use quotes from those articles in your work. Thanks, I think I have. In fact I'd like to make a pitch for an absolutely wonderful piece of software I found a month or two ago, which I just realized will solve my problem. It's called ClipMate (www.thornsoft.com). Every time you copy something it maintains it in a database, and you can set up different folders to store the clips in. It's perfect for keeping and saving quotes, as you suggest, because it even records the url from which the quote was taken (though it only does that with Netscape and IE, so I have to switch to those applications if I really need the url). In this case, what I'll do is set up a specific folder for urls that I take from email messages. When its time to read them, I'll go to clipmate, set it on the folder, and then take advantage of its 'power paste' feature. When you have it set to that, it pastes each clip sequentially. So I'll open a browser, paste the first url, and read the article. When I click paste again, ClipMate will automatically go to the next one, and I'll stay in the same window. I can't say enough about ClipMate for people that collect information from the internet. Sorry to sound like a commercial, but I'm very enthusiastic about it :) -- Jim Kling science writer Rockville, MD http://nasw.org/users/jkling Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Monday, August 23, 2004, 5:57:12 PM, you wrote: JK I've just started using TB and I like it, but I have an issue with JK external links (clicking on a url in a message). One problem is that JK it opens the browser twice instead of just once. First, welcome to the list, Jim. The problem is a Firefox issue. You can resolve it by following the directions here ... http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246078 Scroll down to Comment # 6. The instructions are there. As I mentioned earlier, this fix worked and also helped me to choose Netscape as the browser. But a new problem has developed. Whenever I click on a url in TB, a new Netscape window opens rather than using the same one. Is there a way to fix this? Here's why I want it this way (in the hopes that someone can offer an alternative solution if they think of it). I've just switched to TB from Netscape's mail client. I read my news from email alerts that have links, so when I click on a story it opens in Netscape. I don't read it right away. Instead I read all the mail, click on the links, and then go back and read them at some laterpoint in the day (it just works better for me that way). But if TB opens a new window each time, and I click on 15 stories, well, you see the problem. thanks! -- Jim Kling science writer Rockville, MD http://nasw.org/users/jkling Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 12:04:51 PM, you wrote: Here's why I want it this way (in the hopes that someone can offer an alternative solution if they think of it). I've just switched to TB from Netscape's mail client. I read my news from email alerts that have links, so when I click on a story it opens in Netscape. I don't read it right away. Instead I read all the mail, click on the links, and then go back and read them at some laterpoint in the day (it just works better for me that way). But if TB opens a new window each time, and I click on 15 stories, well, you see the problem. I forgot a rather obvious point. The *reason* that I want the articles to open in a different browser than the one I use for most purposes (Firefox) is to keep news articles separate and easy to find. I just go to the one Netscape window and read the top article, then click 'back' repeatedly until I've read everything. -- Jim Kling science writer Rockville, MD http://nasw.org/users/jkling Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Jim Kling @ 2004-Aug-24 1:22:03 PM external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I forgot a rather obvious point. The *reason* that I want the articles to open in a different browser than the one I use for most purposes (Firefox) is to keep news articles separate and easy to find. I just go to the one Netscape window and read the top article, then click 'back' repeatedly until I've read everything. Let me offer a different solution. Investigate an RSS client. It will let you manage your news feed easily. Most of the have built in browsers (or IE host controls) so reading the full articles is easy. My favorite RSS reader is built into Opera. SharpReader is a very nice free reader. It does require the .NET Framework, but you should already have that installed. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are 10 types of people in this world: those you can read binary and those who can't. pgpLRuZNK40Y9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 2:02:54 PM, you wrote: Let me offer a different solution. Investigate an RSS client. It will let you manage your news feed easily. Most of the have built in browsers (or IE host controls) so reading the full articles is easy. My favorite RSS reader is built into Opera. SharpReader is a very nice free reader. It does require the .NET Framework, but you should already have that installed. Hmm...well, the first problem is I'm not that technical, so .NET Framework went way over my head. :) My second problem is that I'm a writer, and I get alerts about press releases, articles, etc. from all sorts of places that don't seem to have rss feeds. -- Jim Kling science writer Rockville, MD http://nasw.org/users/jkling Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 5:53:30 PM, you wrote: JK But a new problem has developed. Whenever I click on a url in TB, a JK new Netscape window opens rather than using the same one. Is there a JK way to fix this? Go to Control Panel / Internet Options / Advanced / Browsing and put a check mark beside reuse Windows for launching shortcuts and see if that doesn't do what you want. Seems to be already checked. Like Chris, I also use an RSS reader (FeedDemon, which can be found here: http://www.bradsoft.com/feeddemon/index.asp) RSS seem like they could be really useful, but aren't they limited to sites that set themselves up to provide RSS feeds? Most of the sources I'm interested in don't seem to be set up that way. -- Jim Kling science writer Rockville, MD http://nasw.org/users/jkling Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Jim Kling @ 2004-Aug-24 3:16:36 PM external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm...well, the first problem is I'm not that technical, so .NET Framework went way over my head. Well, I'm a programmer (just look at my bug reports). The .NET Framework is a 25 MB download that lets you run certain newer programs. Developers like it because it makes it very easy to create applications. IT managers like it because it lets them control what application can and cannot do on the computers they manage (For example, a manager can specify that application xyz CANNOT access the hard drive). For end users, it provides more stable application faster. All of the above it in theory. Any technology can be abused. However, I have seen a lot of good come out of the .NET Framework. I suggest that the next time you visit WindowsUpdate.com, you download the .NET Framework. NB: You might already have it. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Would a fly without wings be called a walk? pgpxi20dHhIdu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Perry Nelson @ 2004-Aug-24 5:53:30 PM external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Go to Control Panel / Internet Options / Advanced / Browsing and put a check mark beside reuse Windows for launching shortcuts and see if that doesn't do what you want. I don't remember if that works for Netscape. I think that is has its own setting somewhere, but I can't remember (I haven't used Netscape since the 4.x versions.). Explore the preference dialogs! -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Today's Oxymoron: Clearly misunderstood pgp3J4MA46vYn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Jim Kling @ 2004-Aug-24 6:09:44 PM external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS seem like they could be really useful, but aren't they limited to sites that set themselves up to provide RSS feeds? There are some sites that will generate a RSS feed from a HTML page. I have never used one, but http://anyrss.maquis.org/ provides that service for free. Most of the sources I'm interested in don't seem to be set up that way. You could also ask them to consider making a RSS feed. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Today's Oxymoron: Definite maybe pgpVitCojcfLs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: external links
Hi Jim, Monday, August 23, 2004, 5:43:04 PM, you wrote: JK I've just started using TB and I like it, but I have an issue with JK external links (clicking on a url in a message). One problem is that JK it opens the browser twice instead of just once. First, welcome to the list, Jim. The problem is a Firefox issue. You can resolve it by following the directions here ... http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246078 Scroll down to Comment # 6. The instructions are there. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
