Re: my first bat bug!..
Hello Januk, On Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 at 22:06:41 you wrote (at least in part): PP That was not the hint I wanted to populate for solving this PP problem, but exactly what you told: simply F4 :-) JA Try it. TB still processes any quote delimiters when using JA quote selected text. That's a bug in my opinion. After all, by JA selecting text, you're *telling* TB what you want quoted. It doesn't JA matter if there are signature delimiters, you've explicitly selected JA what you want quoted. Damn ... you're right .. I don't know what I did to get it working, maybe it wasn't a qualified signature delimiter in the test message I used (sadly I don't remember which message it was I used for testing). Of course F4 should quote _everything_ I've selected regardless of a signature delimiter, that's what it is for. Nevertheless Alt+Insert works so Mrten can use it for the problem described :-) -- Best Regards Peter Palmreuther mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54/12 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) You tell 'em cabbage, You've got the head. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Januk Aggarwal ! On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:06:41 -0800 GMT your local time, which was 28.11.2001, 22:06 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] After all, by selecting text, you're *telling* TB what you want quoted. It doesn't matter if there are signature delimiters, you've explicitly selected what you want quoted. Yep, exactly, that is the way I do it. I never select any signature delimiters. - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.53t PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. (Benjamin Disraeli) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.10 Comment: Digitally signed, Key-ID 0xD56C6187 Comment: Still GnuPGshell iD8DBQE8BlMufvT+DQ+2bH0RAswNAKC12rN2YjvlpqGhb76weoK2mtJ1IACeNaXF bDfGHKvDWmvEgyDhaSgcBdc= =SOQ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
Hello Mrten, On Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 at 03:48:57 you wrote (at least in part): M ... or actually, my second, since i noticed that search-problem as M well. M i just tried to reply to a message that contained a '-- ' halfway the M message, and the reply quoted no further then there. i know that this M is the 'official' signature delimiter, yes. it was a preview of an M email i should comment on. M selecting all text and pressing ctrl+f4 gave the same results. M my reply-template is fairly simple: M Om %OTIME op %ODATE, %OFROMNAME: M %Cursor M %quotes M %singlere%- M is there an option/macro somewhere that i overlooked? Yes. First: selecting the whole text and pressing Ctrl+F4 inserts the whole text as quote here, but that may be due to I'm using the current Beta. Second: Select the text to reply on. Copy it. Reply to the mail with F4. If the text below the signature delimiter is still cut off delete the reply and use Alt+Insert to insert the copied text as quote, this works. HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54/10e on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck it is probably just a tool of the conspiracy. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mrten! On Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 at 03:48:57 you wrote: i just tried to reply to a message that contained a '-- ' halfway the message, and the reply quoted no further then there. i know that this is the 'official' signature delimiter, yes. it was a preview of an email i should comment on. selecting all text and pressing ctrl+f4 gave the same results. As you yourself stated the reply got cut at the official signature delimiter, which is quite good. So, I won't see it as a bug - especially considering that some of us see it as a bug that TB! doesn't recognize a second sig del: - -- created by PGP. Instead of using a reply you can create a new message and paste the original text in with Alt+Ins. You can also create a reply and copy the text below the sig del with the same shortcut in. Other than Ctrl+v Alt+Ins puts in the text as quoted. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54/10e on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Es ist viel einfacher, Kritik zu üben, als etwas anzuerkennen. (Benjamin Disraeli) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPASRXfTo1oA8g8dLEQIEPwCg06XqMJG8TVBOtRnJGC6Od6dmMLgAnRur a8+poP4SpXwuiGzEHm/azN48 =f83b -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 9:25 op woensdag 28 november 2001, Dierk Haasis: As you yourself stated the reply got cut at the official signature delimiter, which is quite good. So, I won't see it as a bug - especially considering that some of us see it as a bug that TB! doesn't recognize a second sig del: - -- created by PGP. personally, i see the - -- as a bug from PGP, and a rather stupid one as well. as if they couldn't get themselves to write the few lines of code to parse a the complete delimiter string (hey, why else is the remaining text there? (-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-, that BEGIN must have some meaning doesn't it?) but to get back to the original question; i searched the RFC database, and nowhere I (better: the searchengine :) could find a reference to '-- ' being a signature that should be cut off replying. i think this way of replying should be an option, not default. nitpick, i know. i hate software deciding for me what part of the email i should be replying to. one of the prominent features of the bat is that it does not edit emails in any way, i find this one therefore rather inconsistent. i usually edit away most of the irrelevant text in the reply anyway. Instead of using a reply you can create a new message and paste the original text in with Alt+Ins. You can also create a reply and copy the text below the sig del with the same shortcut in. hmm, yes, thanks to you and peter for the workaround, i thought about that as well when i woke up this morning :) Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPASrrktQMadp+KslEQJbiACfTtUmEYzplV+tRI/drJxF3/dRT9IAoJTe YIBxGC0PKKs9XdQKmqXAIgKX =rNG3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
In a message dated, Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:17:29 +0100, Mrten [M] wrote: ... M personally, i see the - -- as a bug from PGP, and a rather stupid M one as well. as if they couldn't get themselves to write the few M lines of code to parse a the complete delimiter string (hey, why M else is the remaining text there? (-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-, M that BEGIN must have some meaning doesn't it?) I tend to agree here, with my current knowledge that is. I don't know if there's a good reason for PGP's method that we're overlooking or unaware of. M but to get back to the original question; i searched the RFC M database, and nowhere I (better: the searchengine :) could find a M reference to '-- ' being a signature that should be cut off M replying. i think this way of replying should be an option, not M default. nitpick, i know. It's definitely a standard delimiter used by other clients as well. M i hate software deciding for me what part of the email i should be M replying to. one of the prominent features of the bat is that it M does not edit emails in any way, i find this one therefore rather M inconsistent. i usually edit away most of the irrelevant text in M the reply anyway. Others don't and if those others hit their reply buttons to answer messages from me at least I know that I'll be spared having my signature unnecessarily mirrored back at me. The signature delimiter should be looked at as a queue that the sender doesn't wish for anything below the delimiter to be sent back to him/her. This should be overridden only with explicit intervention. I do agree that the 'quote selected text' option should really quote everything and ignore the delimiter. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54/10 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter Palmreuther ! On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:22:41 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 28.11.2001, 09:22 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] Yes. First: selecting the whole text and pressing Ctrl+F4 inserts the whole text as quote here, but that may be due to I'm using the current Beta. Second: Select the text to reply on. Copy it. Reply to the mail with F4. If the text below the signature delimiter is still cut off delete the reply and use Alt+Insert to insert the copied text as quote, this works. May I add a third possibility: Mark the text you want to reply to in the preview pane (or in the editor) and press F4: TB will use the highlighted part for your reply. I usually reply this way and I don't have any probs with PGP-delimiters (I just do not highlight them for reply ;-)) HTH - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.53t PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Erwerbsregel #25 Angst macht einen guten Geschäftspartner. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Key-ID: 0x0FB66C7D or 0xD56C6187 iQA/AwUBPAUPvky/sHrVbGGHEQIgzQCfTWAyK9sJdOPshDs/sCK3Ka311N8AoI58 8UVwHOGryMxu30JxLDiY4vz7 =8Gd6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
Hello Gerd, On Wednesday, 28. November 2001 at 18:24:17 you wrote (at least in part): Yes. First: selecting the whole text and pressing Ctrl+F4 inserts the whole text as quote here, but that may be due to I'm using the current Beta. [...] GE May I add a third possibility: GE Mark the text you want to reply to in the preview pane (or in the GE editor) and press F4: TB will use the highlighted part for your reply. Of course I wanted to say exactly this! Ctrl+F4 opens an answer but with normal quoting (signature delimiter) and addressed to 'From' or 'Sender', ignoring Reply-To. That was not the hint I wanted to populate for solving this problem, but exactly what you told: simply F4 :-) -- Best Regards Peter Palmreuther mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54/10e on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) All great discoveries are made by mistake. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: my first bat bug!..
Hello Peter, On Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 18:35 GMT +0100, a creature mimicking Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote: PP That was not the hint I wanted to populate for solving this PP problem, but exactly what you told: simply F4 :-) Try it. TB still processes any quote delimiters when using quote selected text. That's a bug in my opinion. After all, by selecting text, you're *telling* TB what you want quoted. It doesn't matter if there are signature delimiters, you've explicitly selected what you want quoted. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54/12 under Windows 98 4.10 I have an imaginary friend who refuses to play with me. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
