Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-25 Thread rich gregory
At this point I need to make sure that you (and everyone else) know
that I am NOT "attacking" in seeking the answers to this question.
Though my fictitious example may be lame, the question (I think)
deserves a definitive answer (not necessarily by you, of course). I
only seek the truth!

rg>> Seriously, 2 words does not a complex search make. If I need to
rg>> *RELIABLY* find the email where I invited JANIS to the DANCE (only
rg>> want emails where BOTH those words exist):
PC> personally, I'd probably do the search differently. Either just on
PC> JANIS, or use the FROM:, put my name in, then use JANIS as the search.

I don't think you *can* put your name in the FROM and JANIS as the
search term. Can you?

In my example, assume I've sent Janis many hundreds of emails, the
dance was probably over a year ago, and I invited hundreds of folks to this
dance.

The only sane and reliable way to quickly find that one message I seek
is to do an AND search. I am (as I am SURE others are) seeking the
answer to why one search works one way and another the other way.


rg>> 1) how should I enter the search strings? Is example 1 or 2 above
rg>> correct? They report different matches!
PC> my test showed 17 return emails on one method, 18 on the other, so they
PC> were probably the same for 90+% of the search.

This is the root question then!  What is the difference between the 2
versions (with vs w/o spaces around the &) of the search syntax?

With hundreds (or more) of hits 90% isn't good enough.

rg>> 2) Is it different from version to version?
PC> I can't answer that, did you check the beta archives for SEARCH?

I think it may be.

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Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-25 Thread rich gregory
Search for:
rgchicken&soup
PC>>> searched using that method, found 18 messages
rg chicken & soup
PC>>> searched using this method found 17 messages...
rg>> Brings up more questions than it answered for me!
PC> the answer is simple:) keep the searches to one word;0) I've never
PC> really tried a complex search on an email. You want complex, I'll
PC> show you some INFORMIX report queries

HEY! That's GREAT! You've volunteered to write informix queries for my
email searches then!!

Seriously, 2 words does not a complex search make. If I need to
*RELIABLY* find the email where I invited JANIS to the DANCE (only
want emails where BOTH those words exist):

1) how should I enter the search strings? Is example 1 or 2 above
correct? They report different matches!

2) Is it different from version to version?


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Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-25 Thread rich gregory
Searching for:
rgchicken&soup
PC>>> searched using that method, found 18 messages

rg chicken & soup
PC>>> searched using this method found 17 messages...

dh> To confuse even more, sometimes I see less messages in the result
dh> list than are "counted" as result in the statusline. If I press
dh> Alt-0/Alt-1 they come up. Very bad, too.

What do ALT-0 & ALT-1 do?

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Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-24 Thread rich gregory
rg>> I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered
rg>> differently... My earlier version wanted
rg>>chicken&soup
PC> searched using that method, found 18 messages

rg>> but the newer version works with
rg>> chicken & soup
PC> searched using this method found 17 messages...

Brings up more questions than it answered for me!

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Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-24 Thread rich gregory
E> I have never had luck searching for more than one word, but
E> the search mechanism works fine (through single or multiple
E> folders).

I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered
differently... My earlier version wanted
   chicken&soup
but the newer version works with
chicken & soup


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Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 11:22:15 AM, Mark wrote:

M> When I installed 2.04.4 over 2.01.3 the installation
M> routine presented a default folder for install, which
M> I assumed to be the current installation folder.
M> However, the default folder presented was
M> c:/program files/TheBat
M> The 2.01.03 default installation had been to
M> c:/program files/The Bat (note the space)

Interesting. I just (!) upgraded to 2.04.4 from 2.01.3 and have also
just confirmed I have the search bug. However, I do not have multiple
install directories. I think, serious though the double install problem
is, it maybe a red herring in the search issue.

I think RIT need to publish a fix for this pronto.  Everybody should
*not* be expected to employ the fix described here (but kudos to they
who found the fix).

Surely, the nature of this beast suggests that there is a file in 2.03
that is needed in 2.04?

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 Allister



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Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Bill Blinn - Technology Editor
At 7:56 PM on 2/23/2004, Allie Martin typed ...

A> This is very odd.

A> TB! normally upgrades an installation, taking the installation path
A> from the registry so that a prior installation is upgraded. I know
A> this since for a long time, I had TB! installed in a different
A> directory from the default and I never had to adjust the installation
A> path when upgrading.

Quite odd, indeed. I've been updating from version to version for a
long time and I've always just installed over the existing
installation (as the instructions suggest). My directory is the same
as it's always been:
   C:\Program Files\The Bat!\

And my messages are stored in directories under D:\BatMail\. Each
subsequent new version has found everything.

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Random thought: Cats understand if some of their friends cannot come inside.
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