Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Roberto, Who did you contact regarding the conduit? Maybe if enough of us ask them, they'll give you the info. you need to do it? If anyone else is interested, let's get a campaign going. -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, April 12, 2002, 5:12:28 PM, you wrote: RM> Crazy ;) RM> I've searched high and low, but nothing. I offered (*for free*) to RM> develop a conduit for The Bat to HotSync, but I've heard no replies RM> from RitLabs and all the file formats are proprietary so not much I RM> can do about it except export/import vcards :( RM> Roberto RM> Friday, April 12, 2002, 2:08:38 PM, you wrote: FXM>> Friday, April 12, 2002 FXM>> Hello All, FXM>> I read someplace that you could synch TB to a palm. Am I right about FXM>> this or am I crazy? RM> _ RM> Do You Yahoo!? RM> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com RM> RM> Current Ver: 1.60c RM> FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com RM> Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RM> Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com RM> Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RM> TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Chema, I too would love to be able to sync my Plam. I hate having to use two or three different programs that one program, Outlook, use to do for me. I really don't want to go back to Outlook for security reasons but... Best Regards, KennyB www.runnerduck.com Saturday, April 13, 2002, 3:10:57 AM, you wrote: > Hello Listers, > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, at 20:47:52 [GMT -0700] (which was 5:47 where I > live) Steve wrote: ST>> Maybe if enough of us ask them, they'll give you the info. you ST>> need to do it? > The one and only reason by that I don't use the AB is the lack of > synchronization. > -- > Chema Berian > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Spanish GDUTB Moderator > Subscriptions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 > TB Tip of the Moment: You can filter your replied messages the same > way as you filter incoming and outgoing mail. Check out "Account | > Sorting office/Filters". > PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys > > Current Ver: 1.60c > FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com > Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com > Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Palm Synch
On Friday, April 12, 2002, 6:11:02 PM, Stephen Thomas wrote: ST> Are you looking for address book sync. or email sync.? I'd love ST> to have an address book sync. but have not found anything that ST> will work, short of exporting all Palm addresses to a vcard and ST> importing into TB. TB has a great address book that Iwould love ST> to sync., if anyone know how. One of the ways that worked was a bit of a pain but it did work. It's been a while since I did it so I might be a bit off here but I was able to export the bat address book info as comma delimited I believe. Then I used my yahoo account's import feature to import the comma delimited file (you have to configure the mappings of what goes where, but it didn't take that long). Next step was to then use intellisynch (free also) to synch yahoo's address book with the palm. Not one of those operations you'd want to do on a nightly basis but it did work. ST> Steve ST> At Friday, 12 April 2002, you wrote: >>Friday, April 12, 2002 >> Hello All, >> I read someplace that you could synch TB to a palm. Am I right about >> this or am I crazy? >> >> Sincerely, >> Francis X. Mendez >> >> >>Current Ver: 1.60c >>FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com >>Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com >>Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ST> ST> Current Ver: 1.60c ST> FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com ST> Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ST> Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com ST> Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ST> TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Whenever I see an old lady slip and fall on a wet sidewalk, my first instinct is to laugh. But then I think, what if I was an ant, and she fell on me. Then it wouldn't seem quite so funny." -Jack Handey Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Palm Synch
On Monday, April 22, 2002, 10:26:53 AM, Tim wrote: TM> Just curious, why did you import the csv file into Yahoo, then sync to TM> Palm? Palm does offer a feature to import csv into the address book. Good question. I can't actually remember now, it's been so long:) Actually, I think the problem was that The Bat! and Yahoo actually was able to store more different fields than the Palm allowed so my goal ( I think ) was to keep The Bat! and Yahoo synched up correctly and then used the yahoo synch feature to keep it synched with the Palm. Needless to say I've just dropped doing any synching between The Bat, Yahoo, and The Palm. I ended up with duplicate records and things going into the wrong places, it was just a mess so I gave up. I look forward the perfect solution. -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching." -Jack Handey Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Marck, This is a response to your (MDP's) message dated July 10, 2002, with the subject: [Palm Synch]. JT>> It seems to me that if somebody builds a conduit between TB AB JT>> and Palm, then we will still need a time planer, a to do list, JT>> integration with M$ Word, a Pocket PC sync, a billing software, JT>> etc. MDP> What has any of that functionality to do with an email address list? I see your point. I guess it is just laziness. I do not want to have to update e-mail addresses, first names, and last names in two places. -- Best regards, John Thomas Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Marck, on 10/Jul/2002 you wrote: MDP> Stuff the street and phone information. Ignore it - I do. TB's address MDP> book is *so* well suited to its real purpose, but *not* to the general MDP> purpose address book that it appears to be on the surface. JT>> It seems to me that if somebody builds a conduit between TB AB and JT>> Palm, then we will still need a time planer, a to do list, JT>> integration with M$ Word, a Pocket PC sync, a billing software, JT>> etc. MDP> What has any of that functionality to do with an email address list? JT>> Does it make sense to skip the conduit, develop a relationship JT>> with T&C and/or others, and add an ability to hook into those JT>> PIMs? MDP> Not to me! Why does an email client and an email address list need all MDP> of that data? Well I NEED an address book in my email client and I NEED an address book in my "Diary". It seems sensible to me to have one address book with the information I need in it, I really do not want to have to maintain several though I could synchronise - provided an automated sync facility was available - but it is still a pain and you do get issues from time-to-time with synchronisation. So now I need address books for: - Email client - News client (possibly) - PC based PIM - Palm PIM - Mobile Phone (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network & PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Marck, MDP> MDP>> Not to me! Why does an email client and an email address list MDP> MDP>> need all of that data? JK>> Well I NEED an address book in my email client and I NEED an address JK>> book in my "Diary". MDP> But that's fuzzy thinking because of language. You NEED a PIM with an address MDP> book and a diary. You NEED an email client with an *email address MDP> manager*. An email address is *not* a physical address. You do MDP> different things with it. Why would we want to manage more than one address book. info about people needs to track all address/phone/fax/email --- whatever info about people... JK>> It seems sensible to me to have one address book with the JK>> information I need in it, MDP> Why not have one database with every single piece of information about MDP> everything you keep on your computer in it? I say keep unrelated things MDP> separate. The only things in common *might* be contact names. Why MDP> might? Because how you address someone in a letter or on the phone MDP> often differs from how you refer to them in email. It certainly does MDP> for me. however, if you are using your contact book for regular paper mail and/or email it makes sense to keep it all in one place and use whatever software to reference it. MDP> This is the point I'm trying to make. You are being blinkered by the MDP> term "Address Book" and can't see the different functions performed by MDP> both. Why does your PIM need to have an email reply template embedded MDP> in it? Why does your email address manager need a phone number? the address manager is really a contact manager..and it should have all types of identifiers that people use.. such as fax, phone, cell, email, web site, whatever... those fields should be stored once and useable by any ODBC compliant software. I MDP> suggest that neither need to encroach on the other's areas of MDP> expertise and that both are required and should be separate. I disagree. I don't think functions of applications (ie. palm email reply template) should be in the address book but it definitely should be part of the PIM software, linking to the address book or contact manager (whatever you want to call it), Any data about people should definitely be kept in one place and referenced by whatever application needs such data. just my .02 -- Best regards, Lauramailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Sandro, This is a response to your (SP's) message dated July 11, 2002, with the subject: [Palm Synch]. SP> As a matter of fact, I am using Outlook and intend to move to TB. SP> The problem is that to replace Outlook I need not only an email SP> program, but also a PIM, and would appreciate suggestions on a SP> good, simple one I use Time & Chaos. I like it. It is fast and small. Although it seems simple at first, I think you will find it quite powerful. For another $25 (I think) it will synch with the palm, http://www.isbister.com/chaos32.html. -- Best regards, John Thomas Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, Sandro Perotti wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As a matter of fact, I am using Outlook and intend to move to TB. The > problem is that to replace Outlook I need not only an email program, > but also a PIM, and would appreciate suggestions on a good, simple one > (not Act! or similar). Sandro, Lotus Organizer. It's consistently rated number one around the world, is incredibly powerful, and lets you use it at whatever level of simplicity/complexity you want. Plus, the development of Lotus products is fairly slow, which some people look at as bad but most users consider to be good, because the product is generally ahead of the pack anyway and their investment lasts. You can download a trial version of Organizer 6.0 from somewhere on the Lotus site. Write back if you're interested but can't find it. -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Sandro, Thursday, July 11, 2002, 3:00:34 PM, you wrote: >>> Any data about people should definitely be kept in one place and >>> referenced by whatever application needs such data. >> >>"Definitely" not. SP> Definitely "both". It's a matter of personal preference. IMO, that is. SP> I myself would prefer the former, having to enter data only once, and SP> the fact that in the past there have not been programs that perform SP> this function properly doesn't mean that the idea is not sound. After SP> all, that's -again IMO- what computers are (or should be) for: making SP> things easier. Sandro, that is the whole idea, and sometime someone will get it right. Outlook has a good concept, Ie. sometimes an email should go into a task list, or drop onto a calendar to show that i need to do something regarding that item on a certain day. I am a developer, and what a mess it makes if you have independent applications making you maintain their own address-book or contacts. this is one global thing we humans all keep.. phone book!! our phonebooks contain all kinds of info about people.. i put birthdays, anniversaries, in my paper phonebooks, fax#, cell#, email, lots of notes about the person.. so in electronic world. .that is what i'm looking for.. something simple.. but if I want to set up a meeting or a visit with someone in my address book.. darn it i want them to be in MY ONLY darn address book! Calendar and scheduling is also something I view as very important and needs a common address/contact book.. It drives me nuts that there is not a calendar in TB! I love TB! anyhow, don't get me wrong, but I really need to be able to pull up a calendar or drop an email on a day of the calendar to create a tickler file for the day. as for full-on scheduling, for businesses they work great, personally I don't use scheduling that much... but email to me is not a stand alone application..and someday the developers will get it together and really make a plug-in able email that you can add whatever vendor's product to. That is my hope. -- Best regards, Lauramailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
RE: Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hi Laura, >I am a developer, and what a mess it makes if you have >independent applications making you maintain their own >address-book or contacts. this is one global thing we humans >all keep.. >phone book!! our phonebooks contain all kinds of info about >people.. i put birthdays, anniversaries, in my paper >phonebooks, fax#, cell#, >email, lots of notes about the person.. so in electronic world. >.that is what i'm looking for.. something simple.. but if I want >to set up a meeting or a visit with someone in my address book.. >darn it i want them to be in MY ONLY darn address book! Calendar >and scheduling is also something I view as very important and >needs a common address/contact book.. I know it's not what you are looking for, but -just in case- take a look at Dawn (http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~zakharin/Software/download.html) AFAIK it's great at converting address books. Hope you find it useful in the meantime. Best regards, Sandro Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
RE: Re[2]: Palm Synch
> You can download a trial >version of Organizer 6.0 from somewhere on the Lotus site. Write back >if you're interested but can't find it. Yes, please, Joseph, I can't find it. Thank you, Sandro Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
