Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Barry2, On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:04:55 +0100 GMT (22/10/02, 00:04 +0700 GMT), Barry2 wrote: Question - would that make TB! the virus writer's target of choice too... ?? I don't think so, because TB just doesn't have the makret share to give enough fun to the virus-writers. But then again, let them try. Any virus that comes in will be an attachment, and I get suspicious very quickly. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Anne, Monday, October 21, 2002, 3:44:24 AM, you wrote: A Additionally, step-by-step instructions for setting up the basic A parts of the program would be good - e.g. we did one for setting up A the mail dispatcher which has been sent to various TB new users as A a guide to how to make it work. These sorts of things on a website A would be really useful resources. As the 'other half' of this 'we' I have to agree ( not for that reason either !! ) that the response to our simple instructions was terrific. I'm sure this would do far more to promote the cause of TB! as the e-mail client of choice for the technically un-savvy user. Question - would that make TB! the virus writer's target of choice too... ?? -- Best regards, Barry2 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Removing top posting--how?
Walt wrote: WN Hello Mary Walt, I didn't check the To: field when I replied to your Post to me on the List, and ended up accidentally sending the Reply to you privately. I really did want to tell the List I am friends with everyone on it, and thank them all for their welcome and support. Didn't know how to manage the re-send, after I figured out what I'd done, so I set it up again in Reply. Below is the answer I sent you: MB Hi, Walt, WN Re your message: Removing top posting--how? WN On Friday, October 18, 2002 at 21:21:41, Mary Bull said, more or less, the following: MB ...I am a true newbie... WN ... Try not to let them offend you too much. ... MB The moderator and I have made friends. No sense in throwing out the MB baby with the bath water. (American idiom.) It was just a matter of MB clashing communication styles, and I understand the moderators are in MB the process of moderating the Macros (or to use an old newspaper MB term, boilerplate) so they will have less chance of someone else MB mis-perceiving the intent, as I did, when I arrived for the first time MB on the List. Thanks for sending me so much support. -- Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Removing top posting--how?
Saturday, October 19, 2002, 8:15:23 PM,myob wrote: m Hello Scott, m Saturday, October 19, 2002, 8:10:39 PM, you wrote: SM How about this: we sit down and agree on a set of templates, etc., SM that should be offered to newbies m which appeals to this newbie. An excellent suggstion and one I'd welcome even as a not-quite- so-newbie! :-) Additionally, step-by-step instructions for setting up the basic parts of the program would be good - e.g. we did one for setting up the mail dispatcher which has been sent to various TB new users as a guide to how to make it work. These sorts of things on a website would be really useful resources. -- Cheers, Anne Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 21-Oct-2002, 04:29 Anne [A] in mid:92139992380.20021021042920;gmx.co.uk said: A Yes please Marck - that'd be very useful. Shall I mail you the A dispatcher one offlist to have a look through? Please. A (BTW I can never get your sig to strip like some of the others do A - is it because you use a PGP signature?) Yes, it is. There are some macro examples on the Macros FAQ and in the Macro Library to cover the stripping of PGP signatures. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta6 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9s3dKOeQkq5KdzaARAoppAKD1LNy8uAXyZvcnK1mxA2sDUePCNgCdHD/4 z8h4/bMhPO9/pzaqlb2FEms= =Aydv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 21-Oct-2002, 03:44 Anne [A] in mid:130137295700.20021021034424;gmx.co.uk said: A Additionally, step-by-step instructions for setting up the basic A parts of the program would be good - e.g. we did one for setting A up the mail dispatcher which has been sent to various TB new A users as a guide to how to make it work. These sorts of things on A a website would be really useful resources. I'm perfectly willing to have these added as a Beginners zone of the FAQ if you're interested. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta6 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9s29+OeQkq5KdzaARAkuQAJ44Mcqv9u52bt7V7KKbVzb01JTrHACggplZ ejw94/1Ha/ZQSACtbNC1D58= =goZq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Leif LG Next time though, you'll get the trout! Another term to puzzle a newbie! Although I've been using TB! for well over a year I've no idea of the origin of this piscatorial reference. -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! 1.61 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi William, 19-Oct-2002, 09:06 William Moore [WM] in mid:953230104.20021019090620;dsl.pipex.com said: LG Next time though, you'll get the trout! WM Another term to puzzle a newbie! Although I've been using TB! WM for well over a year I've no idea of the origin of this WM piscatorial reference. It was first awarded by Leif to Nick Andriash on July 24th 2000 with the immortal phrase Moderator slaps Nick with a trout. It is a way of conveying a tongue-in-cheek reprimand for a slight transgression. In that instance, Nick had posted the Eudora you have mail WAV file to the list instead of privately. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta6 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9sR8gOeQkq5KdzaARAlETAJ41ImMLj2vQgAAK18j1NvlKsn1GJwCgik3j 18X9Z/PgcHDDKTE5J36lbHs= =uJgd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hi Leif, Friday, October 18, 2002, 21:27 -0600 (11:27 PM here) Leif Gregory [LG] in mid:3176395796.20021018212751;pcwize.com said to Mary Bull: LG After you get done playing with Pegasus, come back. We'll leave LG the light on for ya! grin I would like to echo Leif's comments Mary. I used to use Pegasus exclusively. Being one that is always looking for a better mousetrap, I came across TB! a couple of years ago. At first I didn't like it and went back to Pegasus where I said to myself, I'll use Pegasus forever. Well, I was wrong. After several attempts at going back to Pegasus, I now use TB! exclusively. It is absolutely the best email program (IMHO) out there, and trust me I have tried about everyone of them. As a matter of fact, I have Pegasus on my system now although I don't use it. Of course, I have Becky on my system too, but I don't use that either. grin TB! does have a bit of a learning curve, but there are many, many people on this list, especially Marck, that are more than willing to help out. That's what this list is about. So anyway, try Pegasus and if you like it stick with it. If not, try TB! again. The more you use it, the more you'll want to use it... -- Regards, Ron Secord Win2K Pro (SP2) | The Bat! v1.62/Beta6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 5:02 AM (USA Pacific Time) Hello Mary, This is a reply to your message dated Friday, October 18, 2002 at 8:21:04 PM, when you wrote: MB Well, I am very close to just going to Pegasus. I have already MB downloaded it to my machine. I want to thank everyone who wrote MB with encouragement and advice on using The Bat! (I have it on a MB trial basis) and on the requirements of the TBUDL List. I tried Pegasus too Mary but when I discovered that each message was a file on my computer, I knew I would have problems. I now have over 32,000 messages which is a small number compared to many on this list. If each one were a file as with Pegasus, It either would not be able to handle it, or be way too slow. Imagine thousands of files in your Pegasus directory. I have tried most other email programs and have never seen one that has the options or cab handle the volume of messages that TheBat. Maybe you don't get that much email or save every one like I do. If not, Pegasus may work fine for you. But try giving TheBat a good work out. The time spent learning it is well worth it. -- Wayne Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TheBat! 1.61 With Windows 98se 4.10 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Removing top posting--how?
Saturday, October 19, 2002, 4:21:04 AM,Mary wrote: MB Well, I am very close to just going to Pegasus. I have already MB downloaded it to my machine. I want to thank everyone who wrote with MB encouragement and advice on using The Bat! (I have it on a trial MB basis) and on the requirements of the TBUDL List. Hi Mary, Hang on in there with TB - you're doing just fine! :-) MB I have spent the past 2 hours trying to make sense of both the Client and MB the Posts regarding my problems. This may be my last MB post to TBUDL. Mary, when you ask for help here (as elsewhere) remind them you're new to TB and need simple answers! Loads of the techie stuff goes way over my head as well so don't let it worry you! MB (Like Elaine, I really have enjoyed Top Posting elsewhere all MB these years.) This can be done via the templates as others have said - try and see how you get one - if you need more help with it just shout and someone will assist :-) -- Cheers, Anne (from the Rootsweb list using a different mail address here ;-) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hey Marck, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta6)' was used to write mid:987876740.20021019100014;silverstones.com on Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 5:00:14 AM. WM Another term to puzzle a newbie! Although I've been using TB! for WM well over a year I've no idea of the origin of this piscatorial WM reference. MDP It was first awarded by Leif to Nick Andriash on July 24th 2000 MDP with the immortal phrase Moderator slaps Nick with a trout. It MDP is a way of conveying a tongue-in-cheek reprimand for a slight MDP transgression. IIRC 'trout' is also an old word for a really nasty flog. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) The days of the digital watch are numbered. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Marck, On Saturday, October 19 2002 at 02:00 AM PDT, you wrote: It was first awarded by Leif to Nick Andriash on July 24th 2000 with the immortal phrase Moderator slaps Nick with a trout. And I still have the marks to prove it! ;o) -- Nick Andriash Creston, B.C. Canada PGP Public Key: MailTo:andriash;shaw.ca?subject=PGPKey Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:20:04AM -0700 or thereabouts, Nick Andriash wrote: Hello Marck, On Saturday, October 19 2002 at 02:00 AM PDT, you wrote: It was first awarded by Leif to Nick Andriash on July 24th 2000 with the immortal phrase Moderator slaps Nick with a trout. And I still have the marks to prove it! ;o) At least you have marks. I'm luck I can still remember that. -- Best regards, Gary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, October 19, 2002, at 9:20:04 AM PDT, Nick Andriash wrote: And I still have the marks to prove it! ;o) But you did get the smell out, right? ;-) Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:pgp_keys;gmx.co.uk?subject=0xFB04F2E9Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj2xjSAACgkQjVbXUvsE8uluAQCfVWuqi6Imov/U/K39Lb4+fXOj r6sAn04ODYiJc6XgWGVons+IuGF76QQE =tgYE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hi Carren! In message mid:71738660.20021019151858;myrealbox.com on Friday, October 18, 2002, 9:18:58 PM, you wrote: CS Sometimes I really think that we expect *way* too much here of TB! CS beginners! Even though your explanation above is correct and clearly CS set out, I think that for a total beginner to TB! and especially to CS template construction, it can be enough to send them on their merry CS way back to OE! CS I am not criticising you Nick, but maybe there really *is* a need for CS a total newbie's help file of some sort. When I first set TB! up, CS these kinds of explanations simply blew me away and I had no idea what CS anyone was talking about. If it were not for Melissa's ongoing CS patience and her frequent emails containing re-written for newbies CS instructions, I would never have made it off the ground. For someone CS who has perhaps come straight from OE ( or worse still, something like CS Incredimail) - template instructions may very well look like a foreign CS language! JMHO. How about this: we sit down and agree on a set of templates, etc., that should be offered to newbies, and perhaps ask that they be included in the TB! distribution. For example, I have an address book group for mailing lists, which includes a template for the mid: line, cleans up the subject line, and so forth, and I have an address book group for the several TB! lists that's very similar, which includes the computer and TB! details at the bottom of the message. I put these templates together as a result of scrounging through old list messages and FAQ pages; they don't seem to be readily available all in one place, although I need to finish looking through the info available at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html. -- --Scott. mailto:Wizard;local.nu Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hi Leif! In message mid:3172553015.20021018202348;pcwize.com on Friday, October 18, 2002, 9:23:48 PM, you wrote: LG Concerning your templates, if you place the %CURSOR macro *below* the LG %QUOTES macro, you'll never have to worry about top posting again. Yeah, well, then there's the problem of not snipping out the junk, which I used to only do rarely, but which I started to slip up on fairly regularly after installing TB! with the %CURSOR macro at the bottom. I have since moved the %CURSOR back up to the top. -- --Scott. mailto:Wizard;local.nu Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hi Leif! In message mid:4176216546.20021018212451;pcwize.com on Friday, October 18, 2002, 10:24:51 PM, you wrote: SP This is the preferred method and the *only* one that is acceptable SP on this list. Here you respond to the original message case by LG *only*??? Preferred yes, only, no. Like this reply, It's the only LG point I'm commenting on, so bottom posting is appropriate. I think you mean that inline posting turns into bottom posting in degenerate situations. :) -- --Scott. mailto:Wizard;local.nu Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Scott, Saturday, October 19, 2002, 8:10:39 PM, you wrote: SM How about this: we sit down and agree on a set of templates, etc., SM that should be offered to newbies which appeals to this newbie. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, myobmailto:myob;btinternet.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hi Wayne! In message mid:165386606694.20021019051640;kc99.com on Saturday, October 19, 2002, 7:16:40 AM, you wrote: WB I tried Pegasus too Mary but when I discovered that each message was a WB file on my computer, I knew I would have problems. I now have over WB 32,000 messages which is a small number compared to many on this list. WB If each one were a file as with Pegasus, It either would not be able I have 62010 in TB! and 83183 in Outlook (although I'm sure that I have some Outlook archives somewhere, which would increase the count, and I'm also sure that I have a lot of duplicates in Outlook, which would decrease the count). -- --Scott. mailto:Wizard;local.nu Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, October 19, 2002, Tim Musson wrote... WM Another term to puzzle a newbie! Although I've been using TB! WM for well over a year I've no idea of the origin of this WM piscatorial reference. MDP It was first awarded by Leif to Nick Andriash on July 24th 2000 MDP with the immortal phrase Moderator slaps Nick with a trout. It MDP is a way of conveying a tongue-in-cheek reprimand for a slight MDP transgression. IIRC 'trout' is also an old word for a really nasty flog. It's also a fish ;) A popular IRC client (mIRC) has a 'slap' command which uses the same thing (maybe where it was originally obtained?). - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPbHpZiuD6BT4/R9zEQK24gCcD7Fk3mWwSvcdxMC7Fv72q/mMouEAnAwX j1VYHbDV7wXUwlB8fYnjBihy =8OT2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Removing top posting--how?
As a result of top posting, your message includes all signatures and previous list footers of the message you are replying to - another no-no and this one is against the list rules. Please trim your replies. /moderator Can you please tell me how to do this? (In order to avoid offending again, I have copied and pasted the pertinent part of your earlier message to me. I hope that is not also a no-no.) I am a true newbie and am using version 1.61 of The Bat! on a trial basis. Thought I could get some help here, but maybe this List is too advanced for me. Do you have a Rank Beginner's List available? Would you prefer that I just unsubscribe, having caused you so much trouble? Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Mary, On Friday, October 18 2002 at 06:21 PM PDT, you wrote: Would you prefer that I just unsubscribe, having caused you so much trouble? Heavens no Mary... I know that was not Marck's intention at all. What you should do is design a Reply Template and use it in your Address Book. By that I mean once completed to your liking, use that Template in your Address Book under each Mailing List entry. Here is an example: On %ODATE, at %OTIMELONG, %AbofromFirstName wrote: %WRAPPED=%QUOTES %CURSOR %PUT=C:\My Documents\My Signatures\Personal Signature.txt %SINGLERE If you are a mouse person as I am, simply set your wheel mouse button for F4, so that all you have to do is highlight the portion of a message you wish to comment on, then hit the wheel mouse button: Voila! Your Reply is all set for you to start typing, and no more worries about top posting. -- Nick Andriash Creston, B.C. Canada PGP Public Key: MailTo:andriash;shaw.ca?subject=PGPKey Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hey Mary, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091' was used to write mid:12946673621.20021018202141;premiernet.net on Friday, October 18, 2002 at 9:21:41 PM. MB As a result of top posting, your message includes all signatures and MB previous list footers of the message you are replying to - another MB no-no and this one is against the list rules. Please trim your replies. MB /moderator MB Can you please tell me how to do this? (In order to avoid offending MB again, I have copied and pasted the pertinent part of your earlier MB message to me. I hope that is not also a no-no.) Well, the first step is to set up a template for your reply mail that puts a correct sig in with the appropriate cut mark. Here is a Quick Template I have on it... ,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a Cut Mark] | This is a special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of | two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line. | | NewLinedashdashspaceNewLine | | This cut mark is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a | cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of | your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is | removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that | includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark | from the text you quote. `- [see FAQ @ www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html#newmess] Note, the cut mark just above my sig at the bottom of this msg... MB I am a true newbie and am using version 1.61 of The Bat! on a MB trial basis. Thought I could get some help here, but maybe this MB List is too advanced for me. Do you have a Rank Beginner's List MB available? No, no, no. This is the list you want! If things get a bit to Techie, then the moderators push 'em to the TBTech list. MB Would you prefer that I just unsubscribe, having caused you so much MB trouble? Please don't drop off the list, it is full of great people and very helpfull. It is the moderators job to keep order, you just happened to catch two of the 'pet peeves' (top posting and the cut mark). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Tim On Friday, October 18, 2002, you wrote Well, the first step is to set up a template for your reply mail that puts a correct sig in with the appropriate cut mark. Here is a Quick Template I have on it... ,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a Cut Mark] | This is a special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of | two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line. | | NewLinedashdashspaceNewLine | | This cut mark is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a | cut off point for signatures. This was interesting. How many other mail programs recognize the cut mark? I've always manually erased extraneous material even on mailing lists that traditionally use top posting and I have been doing it here. Are you saying that for the most part, it isn't necessary? Elaine Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Mary, On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 at 20:21:41[GMT -0500](which was 02:21 where I live) you wrote: MB I am a true newbie and am using version 1.61 of The Bat! on a trial MB basis. Thought I could get some help here, but maybe this List is too MB advanced for me. Do you have a Rank Beginner's List available? I am not much less of a newby that you :-) This is a very good programme and you will find lots of helpful people on the list. MB Would you prefer that I just unsubscribe, having caused you so much MB trouble? I don't think you've caused any trouble at all, just jumped in at the deep end and got a mouthful of water! What Nick says about templates in his follow up message may seem like double dutch (some of it still does to me too) but have a look at the help files on the web including a newbies list : http://www.mailmejobs.com/tbmaq.htm and, of course, TB! home page by clicking on Help/www home page. It's a good programme and the more you use it the more you'll like it but it can still be very frustrating :-) -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Removing top posting--how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 19 October 2002 at 2:34 p.m. Nick wrote: NA Heavens no Mary... I know that was not Marck's intention at all. NA What you should do is design a Reply Template and use it in your NA Address Book. By that I mean once completed to your liking, use NA that Template in your Address Book under each Mailing List entry. NA Here is an example: NA On %ODATE, at %OTIMELONG, %AbofromFirstName wrote: NA %WRAPPED=%QUOTES NA %CURSOR NA %PUT=C:\My Documents\My Signatures\Personal Signature.txt NA %SINGLERE NA If you are a mouse person as I am, simply set your wheel mouse NA button for F4, so that all you have to do is highlight the portion NA of a message you wish to comment on, then hit the wheel mouse NA button: Voila! Your Reply is all set for you to start typing, and NA no more worries about top posting. Sometimes I really think that we expect *way* too much here of TB! beginners! Even though your explanation above is correct and clearly set out, I think that for a total beginner to TB! and especially to template construction, it can be enough to send them on their merry way back to OE! I am not criticising you Nick, but maybe there really *is* a need for a total newbie's help file of some sort. When I first set TB! up, these kinds of explanations simply blew me away and I had no idea what anyone was talking about. If it were not for Melissa's ongoing patience and her frequent emails containing re-written for newbies instructions, I would never have made it off the ground. For someone who has perhaps come straight from OE ( or worse still, something like Incredimail) - template instructions may very well look like a foreign language! JMHO. - -- Carren PGP public key: mailto:MyPGPkey;myrealbox.com?subject=PGP_Key_Body=Please%20send%20key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows 98) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9sMENyogQhPvf03MRAvNiAJ45cNsSn4RkV01fxyntwzzZbP2ZZwCgprGv FT26K/40z+ZXSaWPZe7Qxi8= =hqoO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello ETM, On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 at 21:50:17 [GMT -0400], you wrote: E This was interesting. How many other mail programs recognize the E cut mark? I've always manually erased extraneous material even on E mailing lists that traditionally use top posting and I have been E doing it here. Are you saying that for the most part, it isn't E necessary? I would venture to say the vast majority. However, most people incorrectly type it, so it doesn't work. For instance, when you reply to my message, the last two lines you'll see from my message are Cheers, and Leif Gregory. The reason I leave those two lines *above* the cut mark, is that my name will be right above where most people will begin typing, so as to avoid a total mangulation of my first name grin. For your cut mark, all you need is a -- (sans the quotes), and automagically, when someone replies to your message, everything below it disappears into the ether somewhere. Concerning your templates, if you place the %CURSOR macro *below* the %QUOTES macro, you'll never have to worry about top posting again. Don't worry, you didn't do anything devastating, nobody hates you! grin It's just generally considered very inconsiderate to top post nowadays. Next time though, you'll get the trout! wistful sigh Geez, I haven't had to pull out the trout for a good thrashing in years. It's getting pretty rank and slimy! ;-) Cheers, Leif Gregory -- List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) PCWize Editor / ICQ 216395 / PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Web Site http://www.PCWize.com TB FAQ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a P4 1.6Ghz OC'd to 2.32Ghz with 512MB. Tagline of the day: PROOF TECHNIQUE #2 - 'Proof By Contradiction' State your theorum wait for someone to disagree. Contradict them. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing top posting--how?
Hello Carren, On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 at 15:18:58 [GMT +1300], you wrote: CS If it were not for Melissa's ongoing patience and her frequent CS emails containing re-written for newbies instructions, I would CS never have made it off the ground. For someone who has perhaps CS come straight from OE ( or worse still, something like CS Incredimail) - template instructions may very well look like a CS foreign language! JMHO. And I see you've progressed nicely all the way to PGP! yay!!! +100 points Moderator But you forgot to trim your quoted material! -20 points grin /Moderator Cheers, Leif Gregory -- List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) PCWize Editor / ICQ 216395 / PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Web Site http://www.PCWize.com TB FAQ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a P4 1.6Ghz OC'd to 2.32Ghz with 512MB. Tagline of the day: If what you don't know can't hurt you, she's practically invulnerable. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
