Re: Template Help Please

[Fred Weissman]

FW>> And good luck solving the Mailer Daemon problem.

> Q:  Those  of you experiencing the problem - what Reply-To address are
> you  *stating*  for  posting  to  the list? N.B. It should be your own
> address, not that of TBUDL.

My own - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Template Help Please

[Allie Martin]

On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:13:20 +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

AM>> Whenever the server generates a Mailer Daemon message, a copy is
AM>> mailed to all subscribers. I doubt that you're the cause of them
AM>> however. I get them as well.

> Hmmm.  I  don't  seem  to get them :-/. I have had them, but I haven't
> seen one for a long time.

There are 7 sitting in my spam folder at present.

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Re: Template Help Please

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Allie,

On  09 January 2000  at  00:06:35 GMT -0500 (which was 05:06 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

>> Marck, I'm getting those E-Mails as well, but the Reply-To address,
>> when posting to this List, IS my own address... still getting the
>> Mailer Daemon letters.

AM> Whenever the server generates a Mailer Daemon message, a copy is
AM> mailed to all subscribers. I doubt that you're the cause of them
AM> however. I get them as well.

Hmmm.  I  don't  seem  to get them :-/. I have had them, but I haven't
seen one for a long time.

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Re: Template Help Please

[Allie Martin]

On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:45:49 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote:


> Marck, I'm getting those E-Mails as well, but the Reply-To address, when
> posting to this List, IS my own address... still getting the Mailer
> Daemon letters.

Whenever the server generates a Mailer Daemon message, a copy is
mailed to all subscribers. I doubt that you're the cause of them however.
I get them as well.

My spam filtering just gets rid of them nicely. :)

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Re: Template Help Please

[Nick Andriash]

On Saturday, January 08, 2000, 7:51:14 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

> Q:  Those  of you experiencing the problem - what Reply-To address are
> you  *stating*  for  posting  to  the list? N.B. It should be your own
> address, not that of TBUDL.

Marck, I'm getting those E-Mails as well, but the Reply-To address, when
posting to this List, IS my own address... still getting the Mailer Daemon
letters.


Nick

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Re: Template Help Please

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Fred,

On  09 January 2000  at  22:06:11 GMT -0500 (which was 03:06 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

FW> ACK! BINGO!!!

Good - glad you've cracked it!

FW> And good luck solving the Mailer Daemon problem.

Q:  Those  of you experiencing the problem - what Reply-To address are
you  *stating*  for  posting  to  the list? N.B. It should be your own
address, not that of TBUDL.

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Re: Template Help Please

[Fred Weissman]

FW>> Anybody else have some ideas?

> Yes  -  I've seen messages completely change when going in to edit. It
> turned  out  to  be a conflicting template in the address book against
> the  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  address  entry  which  overrides  the  folder
> template when first going into edit mode.

ACK!
BINGO!!!


> Could it be something like that?

-Exactly- like that.
When I changed the %TO= from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it
worked.
Except there are no templates in the address book.  But that
doesn't really matter as it's now working.

Take six gold stars from the petty cash box for yourself.

And good luck solving the Mailer Daemon problem.  I know of three people
who joined the list within the past week (me being one of them) and
are/were totally confused by those messages.  We were starting to take them
personally.

FWIW, two of the three have already registered, and the third
will in a day or two.  So as AVK said on the list, the increased frequency
of those messages sure could be a sign of the growing popularity of TheBat.

Thanks again.

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Re: Template Help Please

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Fred,

On  08 January 2000  at  15:49:41 GMT -0500 (which was 20:49 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

FW> Anybody else have some ideas?

Yes  -  I've seen messages completely change when going in to edit. It
turned  out  to  be a conflicting template in the address book against
the  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  address  entry  which  overrides  the  folder
template when first going into edit mode.

Could it be something like that?

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Re: Template Help Please

[Fred Weissman]

FW>> So -that's- not the answer.

> Well nuts... *sigh*

Yeah, although I said something a little stronger.  


FW>> (I wish it were that simple.)

> H... now that I think about it, some time ago someone was asking about people not
> having so much info in their Replies... or something to that effect. And someone ELSE
> mentioned that using a   --  in the template would "erase" everything below those 
>hash
> marks.

I've got the  in other templates and it works with no
problem. Such as the reply template I'm using right now.
FWIW, I've tried the template in question without the separator, and of
course it did the same thing.


> I don't know if anyone else remembers the exact nature of that discussion, but maybe 
>it
> applies here? Or at least something along those lines( no pun intended :P hehe )

> Anyone ?

Yes.
Anyone out there with some help on this??

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Re: Template Help Please

[Fred Weissman]

FW>> The template for the forwarded message is:

FW>> -begin template--

FW>> This forwarded message is originally from %OFromName...

FW>> %Text

> Use capital letters when writing names of macros (%TEXT, not %Text).
> Sometimes TB ignores such non-capitalized macros.

I just went to the template to change it and it already is in CAPS.
I tried again just to make sure, and it still doesn't work.


>> %COOKIE="E:\sigs\shorttag.txt"
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred
>> 
>> %TO="Phans of Phunnies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
>> %BCC="jokesgg "
>> %RETURNPATH=""
>> %RETURNPATH="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

> Just tried your template (with non-capitalized macros, btw) - works
> fine here. May be your E:\sigs\shorttag.txt file is causing the
> problem? Try removing the %COOKIE macro and see...

Already tried.
With no %COOKIE whatsoever, and with the %COOKIE equaling a test text
sentence following the macro.
Still no success.

Since you got it to work, would you like to run the list for me?  

Thanks for the suggestions however.

Anybody else have some ideas?

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Re: Template Help Please

[Fred Weissman]

FW>> I have a folder set up, under my INBOX, from which I want to forward
FW>> messages to a mailing list.  This list will be one-way only - outbound from
FW>> me.  Perhaps someone will reply, but the replies will be to me only, not to
FW>> the list.

> I had this problem before, and someone (I think it was Allie) told me to check the
> properties for the address in my address book. Meaning, I would try to send my Dad 
>emails,
> but once I would put the curser in to "body" part of the message, my CURRENT template
> would go poof and it would show a totally different template.

> He told me to look in my address book, and find [my Dad's] email address. Right 
>click, and
> see if I had set up ADDRESS SPECIFIC templates for that email address. So if you go 
>into
> your Address Book, right click on the email address which is having a problem, choose
> Properties, then there should be a tickable-box which says something like "Use 
>Specific
> Template For This Address". Make sure that is UN-ticked. This helped me and solved 
>the
> problem with Dad's address (and others, but I was to embarrassed to post *how many* 
>on TBUDL
> heehee).

Good point.
I just took a look and it is indeed unchecked.
So -that's- not the answer.
(I wish it were that simple.)


> If that doesn't work, maybe someone else would have an idea?? :D

I sure hope so.
This is getting very frustrating.
Thanks for trying.

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Re: Template Help Please

[Andrew K. Lovetski]

Hello, The Bat Users!

FW> I have a folder set up, under my INBOX, from which I want to
FW> forward messages to a mailing list.  This list will be one-way
FW> only - outbound from me.  Perhaps someone will reply, but the
FW> replies will be to me only, not to the list.

FW> The template for the forwarded message is:

FW> -begin template--

FW> This forwarded message is originally from %OFromName...

FW> %Text

Use capital letters when writing names of macros (%TEXT, not %Text).
Sometimes TB ignores such non-capitalized macros.

> %COOKIE="E:\sigs\shorttag.txt"
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred
> 
> %TO="Phans of Phunnies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
> %BCC="jokesgg "
> %RETURNPATH=""
> %RETURNPATH="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Just tried your template (with non-capitalized macros, btw) - works
fine here. May be your E:\sigs\shorttag.txt file is causing the
problem? Try removing the %COOKIE macro and see...

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Template Help Please

[Fred Weissman]

I posted this a couple of days ago, and received no response.
I'm still struggling with this problem and wondering if anyone could lend a
helping hand.

I have a folder set up, under my INBOX, from which I want to forward
messages to a mailing list.  This list will be one-way only - outbound from
me.  Perhaps someone will reply, but the replies will be to me only, not to
the list.

The template for the forwarded message is:

-begin template--

This forwarded message is originally from %OFromName...

%Text

-- 
%COOKIE="E:\sigs\shorttag.txt"

[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.phred.net/~phred

%TO="Phans of Phunnies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
%BCC="jokesgg "
%RETURNPATH=""
%RETURNPATH="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

-end template--

I have a similar template set up for new messages, with the only difference
being that "This forwarded message..." doesn't exist in it.

The problem is that the headers get filled in properly, but as soon as I
place the cursor in the body of the new message everything from the
"-- " onward disappears.  No separator, no cookie, no address/URL.  In the
case of the forwarded message template, again, the headers get filled in,
but the original message isn't brought into the editor.  I have tried it
both with, and without, "%CURSOR" in the template, with the same results.

Any suggestions?


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