Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-05 Thread Tim Mantyla
Pinkham, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2007 11:23:54 AM:

 Depending on how basic your manual and how limited your scope, you might
 even try Access or Publisher, if you already have them as part of the MS


I tried to import a procedures doc in Word w/ callouts and arrows into 
Publisher and it just deletes the callouts and scrambles up the text into 
different areas, like Flare did when I imported the same thing. It's a 
known issue, i contacted Flare support.

At this point my brain is so fogged with crisscrossing questions... it 
seems to me that I can hardly tell what questions are the right ones to 
ask...because i don't have the conceptual framework in place to figure 
that out. 

Also I don't do well w/ these video tutorials with the moving cursors and 
arrows either, they put me to sleep and cause brain fog. I just need 
personal interaction and immediate feedback on what I do and don't do 
wrong and right to learn it. Right here, right now, yes and no---bing bam 
boom, easy!

I'm figuring out that what i really REALLY need is:

Hire a consultant to:
1) Evaluate my  company needs and match w/ software that's fairly 
user-friendly and based on a MS Word-like model or interface
2) Train me and a few others here on basic ability on the software
3) Design a template I can work from and make minor adaptations to

My company did it the way we're doing now with enterprise software. By 
implementing a software ERP or somesuch, Epicor's Vantage, that has caused 
thousands of dollars and hours and headaches and inefficiency by the sales 
staff, for whom it seems ANTI-designed. It has a horrible, clunky CRM that 
everyone hates and has reduced our productivity by maybe as much as 50%! 
I'm not repeating that if I can help it.

Does anyone know of such a consultant? That's what I'm going to recommend 
to my supervisor.

I have serious BRAIN FOG trying to learn too much in too short a time w/o 
standing-next-to-me guidance. Basically, learning software is boring. 
Writing is fun. Editing is fun. Formatting--boring but necessary, at least 
I already know how to do it.

They're thinking very ballpark 3 months as a starting point w/ knowing the 
factors involved, it's already 4 weeks into it and I still have NO idea 
what software to get. With an entire manual to write and docs to import, 
and format...it's just impossible with the timeframe and my current 
knowledge/abilities.

I feel frustrated! 
I'm a writer/editor, that's my strength...give me something to write, and 
I'll learn software slowly along the way...

Tim
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[TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Tim Mantyla
I'm still trying to determine if an intranet, with the manual designed as 
a web page, is a good spot for the sales manual...
Still trying Flare, and it's having some issues importing

If you know of any good free web design software I can use to publish an 
interactive sales manual, please post it!

I just tried Blaze Composer 3.0 (Author's homepage is 
http://baliganikhil.googlepages.com/) and it would not import my Word doc 
converted to an .htm doc.

Is this common with web design software?  This is the first one I've ever 
tried, plan to try a few more and a trial version of Dreamweaver.
Are there low priced good software not as expensive as Dreamweaver or 
Frontpage?

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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Sue Heim
As a side note, I would never EVER save a Word document as an HTML file and
then attempt to do anything with it without first cleaning up the code.
There are utilities out there that will strip the garbage tags that MSO
inserts. That may actually be part of your import problem.

Personally, I prefer Dreamweaver. I think you may find that you have better
and more features using a tool that you pay money for, versus a freeware
tool. You do sometimes get what you pay for, and if this is going to be your
process going forward, it's a good investment to purchase the tool that does
what you need.

...sue




On 10/4/07, Tim Mantyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm still trying to determine if an intranet, with the manual designed as
 a web page, is a good spot for the sales manual...
 Still trying Flare, and it's having some issues importing

 If you know of any good free web design software I can use to publish an
 interactive sales manual, please post it!

 I just tried Blaze Composer 3.0 (Author's homepage is
 http://baliganikhil.googlepages.com/) and it would not import my Word doc
 converted to an .htm doc.

 Is this common with web design software?  This is the first one I've ever
 tried, plan to try a few more and a trial version of Dreamweaver.
 Are there low priced good software not as expensive as Dreamweaver or
 Frontpage?

 Tim Mantyla
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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Al Geist
Sue Heim wrote:
 
I would never EVER save a Word document as an HTML file and
then attempt to do anything with it without first cleaning up the code
Personally, I prefer Dreamweaver. I think you may find that you have better
and more features using a tool that you pay money for, versus a freeware
tool. You do sometimes get what you pay for, and if this is going to be your
process going forward, it's a good investment to purchase the tool that does
what you need.


Right behind ya Sue,

The last thing you want to do is save a Word document as an HTML file,
unless you like to spend hours picking out the garbage to make it look and
work properly.

If want a good investment, you can't beat Dreamweaver. If you want cheap,
you get what you pay for.

I prefer Dreamweaver myself. However, some months ago, someone on another
list serv raved about an open source web development tool that was as good
as Dreamweaver. I can't remember the name of it (since I already have
Dreamweaver), but maybe someone else on the list does. (I think it was NVU.)

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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Laura Lemay
Al Geist wrote:
 I prefer Dreamweaver myself. However, some months ago, someone on another
 list serv raved about an open source web development tool that was as good
 as Dreamweaver. I can't remember the name of it (since I already have
 Dreamweaver), but maybe someone else on the list does. (I think it was NVU.)

NVU is the former Netscape composer.  Its owned by Linspire, who stopped
developing it in 2005.   The source was forked and now its available as
KompoZer.  http://www.kompozer.net/

Its an OK, basic visual web page editor, but it far from being even 
remotely close to DreamWeaver.

I've heard good things about TopStyle for Windows for basic HTML/CSS 
editing.  ($80, 
http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/Default.aspx)

For the Mac, Coda just came out and is supposed to be incredibly 
awesome. ($80,  http://www.panic.com/coda/)

Laura

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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Rhonda Bracey
What Sue said... snipAs a side note, I would never EVER save a Word
document as an HTML file and then attempt to do anything with it without
first cleaning up the code.
There are utilities out there that will strip the garbage tags that MSO
inserts. That may actually be part of your import problem./snip

However, if you *have* to import a Word doc and don't have anything to
clean it with, you can export as HTML (uggghhh!) then run a program like
Word Cleaner (http://zapadoo.com/wordcleaner/index.htm) over it to
remove the garbage.

I'm not affiliated with Word Cleaner, but it's saved hours of time
'cleaning up after elephants!'

Rhonda

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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Wade Courtney
Don't you mean Kangaroos?

On 10/4/07, Rhonda Bracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What Sue said... snipAs a side note, I would never EVER save a Word
 document as an HTML file and then attempt to do anything with it without
 first cleaning up the code.
 There are utilities out there that will strip the garbage tags that MSO
 inserts. That may actually be part of your import problem./snip

 However, if you *have* to import a Word doc and don't have anything to
 clean it with, you can export as HTML (uggghhh!) then run a program like
 Word Cleaner (http://zapadoo.com/wordcleaner/index.htm) over it to
 remove the garbage.

 I'm not affiliated with Word Cleaner, but it's saved hours of time
 'cleaning up after elephants!'

 Rhonda

 Rhonda Bracey
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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread technical writing plus
There is an open source content management system called PostNuke
http://www.postnuke.com/ - although I do not know that it has the
functionality that you are looking for. It does do a lot of things. 

Jim Jones


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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Sue Heim
What about bandicoots, dingos, koalas, numbats, platypuses (platyputii?),
wallabys, wombats, or (my own personal favorite) tasmanian devils?

(Sorry, couldn't resist)



On 10/4/07, Wade Courtney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't you mean Kangaroos?

 On 10/4/07, Rhonda Bracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What Sue said... snipAs a side note, I would never EVER save a Word
  document as an HTML file and then attempt to do anything with it without
  first cleaning up the code.
  There are utilities out there that will strip the garbage tags that MSO
  inserts. That may actually be part of your import problem./snip
 
  However, if you *have* to import a Word doc and don't have anything to
  clean it with, you can export as HTML (uggghhh!) then run a program like
  Word Cleaner (http://zapadoo.com/wordcleaner/index.htm) over it to
  remove the garbage.
 
  I'm not affiliated with Word Cleaner, but it's saved hours of time
  'cleaning up after elephants!'
 
  Rhonda
 
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Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?

2007-10-04 Thread Rhonda Bracey
Hi Sue
 
I replied to Wade off-list, but to kill this thread before it goes off
in all sorts of it's Friday directions, here's my answer to him:
 

Oooo no! Kangaroos are neat and tidy (think goats and sheep... but you
really don't want to go there) and besides, they're nowhere near as
lucrative as elephants! 
 
(Acknowledgement: I heard the phrase cleaning up after elephants can be
lucrative on the STC Lone Writers or CIC SIG lists the other day - it
was so evocative that it stuck.)
 

And for WAY more than anyone needs to know:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/september2004/ (warning:
pictures of  scat!)
 
OK, we can kill this thread now.
 
Rhonda (who today is trying real hard to finish editing a PhD thesis on
the wine grape industry in Australia... fascinating stuff!)

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From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Wade Courtney
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Subject: Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual?


What about bandicoots, dingos, koalas, numbats, platypuses
(platyputii?), wallabys, wombats, or (my own personal favorite)
tasmanian devils?
 
(Sorry, couldn't resist)

 
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